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FatherOfJesus:
but people were living before the constitution.

Are you joker?
Abi you just want to sound ridiculous?

The joke is on you for refusing to see "It's perfectly fine and acknowledged in the Bible." Better to leave the matter for your bros that was addressed.

FatherOfJesus:
not by the church

Wrong answer.

LordReed:
People were practicing various forms of morality way before even 1 book of your bible was written. Stop kidding yourself that Christianity is the source of all morality, that's pure bunkum.

This is like saying people were living before the constitution or its amendment. It's perfectly fine and acknowledged in the Bible. The Bible remains the universal leveller, not a shaky conscience.

FatherOfJesus:
Because you don’t know what the definition of evidence is. Whatever you said is your opinion and cannot be tested under any standardize method

Standardized by who again? Your being oh?

LordReed:
Usually a euphemism is not for the sake of the speaker but of the hearer. RIP is a message of condolence to the living.

"God bless you" and "Jesus loves you" are messages of hope to the sinner too. Your message is taken.

FatherOfJesus:
I live and move by eating and metabolizing energy in food.

I didn’t see Christian god their.

Your being? You failed to receive, remember.

MountainView:
Please what are we going to call this one?

An ungodly and unscriptural covenant. This should only happen as a personal thing, not a corporate blackmail format. All these to what purpose exactly?

FatherOfJesus:
How can I test this claim?

By thinking, how else do you live and move and have your being.

LordReed:
It's a euphemism.

Okay. perhaps you should find a better one that aligns with you.

FatherOfJesus:
Whats the evidence I failed to receive. Remind me

That we live, move and have our being in Him.

FatherOfJesus:
But this is more reason I do not take Christianity seriously, they have failed to even provide evidence for their God.

You have failed to receive evidence for God. In Him we live and move and have our being.

Don't take Christians or any man seriously, take God and His Christ seriously.

LordReed:
May she RIP.

Meaning? Do people RIP?

ThePlainTruth:
I have noticed that it is mainly people in poor countries that that are very optimistic that Jesus is coming soon and now is over 2000 years.

It's very easy for an idle mind to notice on a global scale from his armchair. Be prepared to meet Jesus.

XXXXTENTACION:
so am putting this question up does the bible encourage genocide

Very simple question, does the Bible tell you to go and do likewise?

Could you please stop all these. Birds are not following you guys, you seem to be the ones following and paying so much attention to them. Live a righteous and victorious life of fellowship and prayers. If the devil likes, let him follow you you can follow back if you have time. All these fears of birds, goats, lizards, cockroaches is sickening and embarrassing.

2elliot:
Guy, ur goat don born rat o

No mind am, the goat disappoint and change na. The direction the previous government was taking the country wasn't pretty too.

Indian film?

Simply carry pastor and imam for investigation, no need to divide along religious and tribal lines. Why do people keep falling for the same trick?

LordReed:
How can something be inerrant if it contains mistakes that may fundamentally alter the meaning of the text? And especially where you can't confirm the original meaning or text (leaving aside the accuracy of what was written with regards to events).

Like where? What mistakes fundamentally alters the Bible? You surely don't think a verse cancels out a whole book, right? Those chemicals need to stay in place.

LordReed:
My question remains: So your god was not sure they'd become his enemies he just prepared a plan to sacrifice Jesus just in case?

Who are "they", you or devils?

If I need your help I'll let you know, meanwhile keep entertaining me with ridiculous god concepts. LMAO!

Good to hear that.

And what exactly has it got to do with your god hating enemies?

For the umpteenth time, everything. If there was no freewill, there will be no enemies. You all would obey God's will for billions of years just like other creatures without freewill.

In summary you can't be foolish before you've had a foolish thought.

If there is no cart you cannot put it anywhere in the first place. Can a cart move if it has no wheels? Can you turn a tire that does not exist? I cannot be insane if I did not possess a neurochemical structure. Where did I imply that they are the sole cause?

This were your responses:



What was your implication if not that your god and spirits have neurochemical structures?

Meanwhile, try to be calming down you are getting highly emotional. LMAO!!

Of course a cart can be moved without wheels, duh. It can be carried or dragged for instance. Think outside your cage for God's literal sake. i have never said or implied that "tires" do not exist. i said several times that they are not the primary cause. i never said that you do not have a neurochemical structure, you are either suffering from some chemical imbalance or being sly like the old little reed. i clearly said "The chemicals inside you do not act of their own volition except you are insane". If you do not imply that they are the sole cause of emotions, what are/is the cause of emotions?
My implications were laid out very clear, just that you are being excited and think i am the one excited. i said "for peace and for time's sake, we will both assume that neurochemicals are the sole cause of emotions. IF so, there is NOTHING wrong with God having them. You could not find anything wrong with them for about 48hrs now. Now, i am clearly reminding you that God is a Spirit and has a spiritual body. He has every right to emotions and emotions are not caused by chemicals. Those chemicals simply activate to "help" YOU get emotional. It's like enzymes or antibodies being released or activated in response/reaction to changes.

LordReed:
So the bible is not inerrant? And inspiration by god does not imply inerrancy?

Be calming down, you are getting too emotional. LMFAO! Use some of that freewill you say you possess. LMAO!

You seem to have a different dictionary altogether when it comes to christian concepts. The Bible is inerrant in the fact that the things written there are true, applicable and valid. It's not referring to spelling and grammar and all these jokes you and your ilk present.

LordReed:
Scribal error in the supposedly "inspired by god book"? Wow what an admission.

You should engage your commonsense more for one who always wants things to be logically explained. There you go again missing the simple concept of inspiration. Divine inspiration is not dictation. God can divinely inspire a stick, like the rod of Aaron. What it means is that God USED it. The stick doesn't have to be from Heaven. Two people can write a book on the same thing. God can USE/breathe on one. That one comes alive for supernatural purposes. It doesn't mean that God will change the grammar or intonation or handwriting and lexis. It's like/similar to a popular figure endorsing or retweeting or using your works on SM. The work that was struggling with 100views will suddenly see 1million views and likes. Nothing much changed in the initial work but it has become global and applauded and of course making money and awards compared to others like it, because of the endorsement.

LordReed:
Here we go, another rigmarole.

It's not a rigmarole except that you keep making it one, i wonder how your kinsmen cope with your pesky issues. When you refer to God's enemies, i take the full perspective which includes devils. Also as you earlier opined about God knowing about satan before creating him. So when you go to talk about "they", it is good to be clear about who the "they" are, you or devils?

As long as we are discussing a foolish concept called god the questions will be foolish. A god who hates, a god who impregnates a virgin and kills babies. If we are discussing such a foolish concept then be prepared for foolish questions.

When you have sincere and reasonable questions that can help you and others, you are free to ask.

I spoke about hate, go look at the begin of the conversation.

i did not say otherwise if you read carefully. Freewill has everything to do with your main question about God having/HATING enemies, which birthed your fantasies about neurochemistry.

I keep asking because the foolish concept is too dumb to pass up without comment on its absolute dumbness.

Without a neurochemical structure there can be no emotions no matter what the actions are. When you stub your toe on a stone who recoils in pain, you or the stone?

A spirit has a spiritual body that has neurochemical structures but yet a spirit is said to be inhabiting human bodies and you don't want us to ask foolish questions. Keep telling us more and exposing more of these dumb concepts.

In summary, you are saying that foolishness made you foolish.
You are literally putting the wheel of the cart before the horse. What makes the cart to turn is not the wheel, it has no will of its own. We may say that the wheel allows the cart to turn, that is more reasonable. Tyres do not turn of their own volition. The chemicals inside you do not act of their own volition except you are insane as suspected. They are dependent on the external behaviours. Do you just start laughing and crying for no reason because you are full of neurochemicals? Neurochemicals are not the underlying cause of your emotions or sole cause as you have being implying. Actions trigger them.
When did i tell you that a spirit has neurochemical structures? i asked you what was wrong with spirits having neurochemical structures and your "NOTHING" reply was so loud and echoing. So since nothing is wrong, what is the fuss about? God lives in Heaven by the way, and He has a spiritual body like you rightly recall.

LordReed:
Question remains unanswered.

Who are "they"?

Answer straightforward and we won't have to do a silly rigmarole.

Ask a straightforward question, not a foolish question, you'll get a straightforward answer.

Still has nothing to do with having a neurochemical structure.

Has everything to do with your main question about God having enemies, which birthed your fantasies about neurochemistry.

What you also shouldn't conveniently forget is I don't believe your god exists so I am granting quite a bit for discussion sake.

My possession of neurochemical structures is want allows me to have emotional reactions to behaviour. If your god god has neurochemical structures that allow him have emotions what then is difference between a spirit and a physical body?

i remember every single time, but you keep asking about One whose existence you don't believe in, what neurochemical is responsible for the miracle?
i asked what MAKES you emotional, not what allows you to be emotional. It is your family's behavior that triggers the release of neurochemicals in you. Once you understand this simple line, you should be free. Your release into sadness and happiness is based on your family's actions. Events around you are what made you depressed or excited, not spasmodic releases of neurochemicals. If i had your wife's number, i would probably ask her to give you a wakeup slap so you could test the amount of dopamine left in you to bring out the smile.
You have continously been unable to prove anything wrong with God having neurochemicals. Now let's help you cut to the chase. Chemicals, antibodies and enzymes are released or called to action in human bodies. They are latent and not the primary cause of your life. If food comes into your stomach, or you had a cut, or you heard a bad news, these chemicals get "active" in a sense. A spirit has a spiritual body, ever heard that or the chemical for your retention finished?

LordReed:
So your god was not sure they'd become his enemies he just prepared a plan to sacrifice Jesus just in case?

Who are "they", i missed the part where you became specific. If you refer to yourself, you decide to become God's enemy and you decide not to. i can decide to become God's enemy by doing things against His will. It is ultimately MINE decision, not His.

I will ask wild silly questions because you refuse to give straightforward answers. Besides my point was already made, your god has attritubes that make it silly to contemplate that he has hatred for the very things he created.

2Ti_2:23  But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

There is no reason or wrong in deciding to hate or love, you are yet to present one. You have a right to hate or love and so does God.

And what has that got to do with having a biological body with neurochemical structures that can be modified?

If you and your ilk eternally obeyed God, you would not be God's enemy.

Still haven't answered the question, does your god have a neurological structure that can be modified, if he doesn't whence the emotions? BTW I dunno is an acceptable answer.

Do not conveniently forget the premise on which i replied this, for peace and time's sake we both ASSUME that neurochemicals are the sole cause of emotions. IF so, there is NOTHING wrong with God having them, your point is defeated several times. You were created in the image of God, why do you find it hard to think He has much more than you have?
When you wake up from your childish assumptions, tell me what makes you emotional with your family, chemicals or their behaviour?

The OP is an hypothetical question and you and yours already have your own self will so why this joke? Anyways, on a general level and for those who may be one way or the other genuinely affected. The situation is that such a couple/marriage is pretty much useless in a New Testament church or for any tangible work in the body of Christ. It is also important for the affected to take care of all the children. The teaching of the Bible concerning marriage is that TWO become ONE. THREE or FOUR do not become ONE. They are housemates and housemates they shall remain until death. Now that you are repented, you still need to be responsible for your mistakes. You will still be "married" to them if you claim to be LEGALLY married and vowed to them. Let me ask you, the Samaritan woman at the well, who "legally" had five husbands. Will you advice her to keep sleeping with her five husbands after her encounter with Jesus?
Joh 4:17  The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband: 
Joh 4:18  For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

LordReed:
ok so immediately your god made them he knew that these beings were going to be his enemies?

Still cannot be certain as the Bible makes no such claims as far as i know. It's good though that you now have a better idea of how "from the beginning" works. Knowledge of the end is said to be from the beginning, not before the beginning. Now, people with freewill are complex people. They have ability to change and to initiate. They are not robots or like the planets that you know the trajectory and movement to the degree. You cannot be too sure of a person, not even yourself. You might plan to do this and say this, then you get to the point and do something else. But definitely, God knows us all far more than we know ourselves and knows all that we may try to hide. This is the teaching of the Scriptures. God knows your trajectory and when you initiate something, He knows/weighs your motive and end. The Bible says by Him, actions are weighed, it is a continued process. The new testament gives a fuller perspective to the Scriptures that you alluded to by saying

Act_15:18  Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

Even humans can destroy anything they've made, are your suggesting your god is less able than humans in this regard?

i'm suggesting that you proceed to your point and not ask wild silly questions.

I am not seeing it, what has the ability to choose have to do with having a neurochemical structure that gets modified?

If there is no freewill, then there will obviously be no enemies. You and your brothers won't go against the will of God. You'd eternally obey God for billions of years like all other creatures and creation with no will of their own.

I don't know you tell me since I don't believe in spirits. The only things I know with neurochemical structures are biological bodies.

Okay good for you, you seemed against God having emotions, so i needed to confirm from you if there was a law barring Him from having emotions or neurochemistry. You don't have any such law or barring so let's proceed.