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LordReed:
You are the one moving in circles since you seem unable to grasp the difference between volume and value.

The volume is the excuse from you for saying that animal suffering is an even bigger problem than human suffering.

[quote author=LordReed post=101440731][/quote]You believe that animal suffering is an even bigger problem than human suffering. Keep moving in circles with your goof until you find something reasonable. No excuse is tenable for a human to agree that animal suffering is an even bigger problem than human suffering.

LordReed:
Did you see me write anything about worth?

To you, animal suffering is an even bigger problem than human suffering. The excuse is not tenable too.

[quote author=LordReed post=101431688][/quote]Part of the pain, confusion and frustrations of suffering from a purposeless life. So to you, the "volume" of animals makes them of more worth and a bigger problem than human life. You obviously don't know the value of your soul.

LordReed:
I am not fulani but you don't need to be fulani to realise the facts about animal suffering.

You value animals above humans in the statement "animal suffering is an even bigger problem than human suffering". Is this your position?

LordReed:
Yeah this is why I don't like hyperbolic language. Once it can be shown that you are being hyperbolic it takes the bite out of your argument even when you are making valid points. I agree with Alex that animal suffering is an even bigger problem than human suffering simply by the sheer volume of animals (and insects) on the planet that undergo suffering every day but saying animal existence is defined by pain is an exaggeration in my estimation.

Are you fulani, they share same sentiments about animals and humans.

BassReeves:
Brah, ọkọ iya mi, what part of 'If you weren't referring to me, then disregard this post and accept my sincere apology.' didnt you understand nah

Mind yourself ohh.

Eviana:
Disclaimer: If you weren't referring to me, then disregard this post and accept my sincere apology.
Sir, I indirectly, accused BassReeves of bringing the homosexual agenda to my thread....(cause that's what he mostly comments on), but I see now that it was you who did it.

Although I wish he would've redirected his further comments back over here, and not kept talking over there, my apologies to him.

At the bolded, not a kind word to use to describe someone whom you don't know. "Rabid"? a term used to describe animals who have contracted a possibly deadly disease if not treated?
Sir, don't you have females in your life? It would be nice to show some respect and at least use a different word next time.
It's quite dismissive to label someone "crazy" or "sick" or "mental" because he/she doesn't operate in the cultural norm that you feel he/she should.....and I'm purely speaking in "practical" and not "biblical" terms.
Thanks for understanding (no need to reply me) and my apologies to the OP for my slight derailment here.

i didn't refer to you my lady, you're not behind my back. Apologies.

Asquare84:
life is extremely cheap in Nigerian, the problem is that there is no money

Did you put the quality of the data and the GDP into consideration? How much is unlimited data and how much is minimum wage. Note also that most state and private pay far below the so called minimum wage. What is the average speed of data after paying? Is it a norm to look for network or wait for particular times of the day and weather?

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Jesuschristus

petra1:
The alabaster oil came from prostitution. Yet poured at Jesus feet

Do you question people in your church. Kindly tell us how you do discernment over givings. The police men who give in church should be turned back probably the money came from bribe ?

Secondly was the money given to the Pastor? .. If you give for Bible distribution. Or inner city motherless helpd through the church. The money goes to the purpose its meant for

Thirdly the Gentle man is a business man . And gave from his business
Everybody is free to donate in church. If he had issues with his partners in business. It's their interna issue .

How dare you Jo, how dare you? For filthy lucre's sake, you call a woman a prostitute and compare a contrite, saved and forgiven woman to the thieves that give you money monthly. Have some decency if you have no discernment.
While I was more particular about the uber driver and your pastor, but it appears you want to discuss the other MBA man. So, you are saying he's a sinner or what? But i'm reading that he's a known member of your church, i think i read pastor, and definitely saw him being awarded by your pastor. Here's what the Bible says.

Proverbs 27:23 Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.

Your pastor should be man enough to question questionable donations, questionable members, questionable pastors and questionable actions. He's at least questioning government and world leaders on Covid, he should be sensitive and sensible enough to question his own members and pastors.
BTW, not all police officers are corrupt or live on bribe, that's quite low coming from you. So you blanket all the police officers in your church that way, smh.

Now, back to my question. Does an uber driver have the same level of Holy Spirit and discernment that your pastor should have? Does an uber driver take donations in millions and billions and give awards to the donors/partners without question?

BassReeves:
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Are you guys in love with this lady or something, because otherwise what is happening here can be best described as crazy. Bro, stop calling me here, i no get any business here

BassReeves:
It is good you just as I do, love thieves, homosexuals, liars and pedos with the love of God, but bearing in mind, that unlike, thieves, liars and pedos breaking the 10 commandments of one sort or the other, why are you bigoted, when it comes to a mention of monogamous God believing, God fearing homosexual engaged in a loving, affectionate, caring, warming, faithful relationship and are not promiscuous, not jumping from one bed to warming another bed, not indulging in idolatry sex rituals acts or practices, not practising temple prostitutes, not participating in sex act with a ritual prostitute for gain of a religious experience etc who are not harming anyone, whether adult or child, not harming animals, but just being their natural and normal selves, going about displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, minding their own business and giving trouble to no one. Why fam?

Would you be kind enough to respond and tell how possibly such personally injures, harms or affect you. I am sure you know, would admit and so accept that, homosexuals are well and famously known to be a blessing to their local, communities, countries and even world at large. so why are you against them expressing and demonstrating their love for each other? Monogamous God believing, God fearing, devout homosexuals, after all, aren't breaking any of the 10 commandments brah. Small time now, you'll mention sickening, but when you're push to specify exactly whats the sickening, in pato and detail it, you clam up

Exodus 20:15
'Thou shalt not steal.'
Thieves we know break the 8th commandment 'Thou shalt not steal' and thus harming a fellow human being (i.e. Deuteronomy 5:18)

Exodus 20:16
'Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour (i.e. Do not tell lies about others, don't be a liar)'
Liars we know break the 9th commandment 'don't tell lies about others, don't be a liar' also thus, harming a fellow human being. (i.e. Deuteronomy 5:20)

Exodus 20:15
'Thou shalt not commit adultery.'
Pedos, we know break the 7th 'Thou shalt not commit adultery' and 10th commandment 'Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's' also thus, harming a fellow human being. (i.e. Deuteronomy 5:18 and Deuteronomy 5:21)

Matthew 22:37-40
'37 Jesus answered,
“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
38This is the greatest and the most important commandment.
39 The second most important commandment is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as you love yourself.’
40The whole Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets depend on these two commandments.”'

Permissible homosexuality, doesnt just not break any of the 10 commandments, but uphold the 2 royal laws (i.e. Matthew 22:37-40) that the 10 commandments rely on.

James 2:8
'If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well'

James 2:8 above, is another very instructive scripture

i guess it is better to address this here, i don't need any rabid person behind my back. You are yet to reply the posts i made here though.

hanson27:
Hmmm, maybe my faith no strong reach, and most night after praying fear still dey dey my body.

Build up your faith and live a holy life then.

BassReeves:
I dont discriminate with my love, besides I dont love homosexuality, but love homosexuals, just much as I love lesbians, heterosexuals, bisexuals and every other human beings from the homosapiens species

I have already blood, but then posters will believe what posters want to believe

i love thieves, homosexuals, liars and pedos with the love of God, don't you?
Lol, you know what. Posters will indeed believe what posters want to believe. Supposing ignorance is bliss. See you elsewhere bro, i no fit laugh too much this morning.

Eviana:
See that's the thing.
I cannot convince you or anyone else anything about 1.) Christ Jesus and 2.) the Seventh-day Adventist Church
I wrote about my experience and how it has changed my life. I am not ashamed to say so either. I always invite folks to try Christ....get to know Him first.

I told you privately & publicly many times what is important to me.
Honestly, you have done more to discredit me on this site than anyone else here.
You have damaged my character more than anyone here...so forgive me if I have severe "doubts" about you.
I don't call many folks my "friend" easily.
Your "private" actions have been 1000 percent different than your "public" rants. I actually believe the "real you" is the one who has treated me worse than "scum" on this forum (but I digress).
Anyhow, I look at you as a "soul" that has potential to be won for Christ's Kingdom...that's it.
I'm not trying to do anything else.

My thread has been overtaken and trashed because you and your buddies have a hatred against me, my beliefs, my church and ultimately God.
What you guys have done towards me (on this thread & elsewhere) is despicable....and I've had to be in much prayer to ask God to change my heart to sincerely forgive which is why I continue to even engage you guys.
Kobojunkie is here and my flesh wants him to leave the thread....BassReeves is also another one whom....well...Lord just let me say no more.
You, as well, join in to bash, bash and more bash....you insult my church, throw accusations, speak "codedly", question, intimidate, deride and more....and then you say that I'm your friend? Really?

My thread has been derailed..look at you guys and what you're doing here today!
Yet let me try and finush writing what I started, and then it gets erased and me banned. See you guys are playing game...yet it's your souls on the line.

Auntie, nobody is doing you. Stop feeling victimized. What you need to do is save your long posts elsewhere in case they get banned, so that you can easily edit them and repost later, instead of starting over again or pulling your hair. Try posting in smaller bits and in other sections of NL and on other people's threads too. The spambots probably marked or suspect your handle so you need to kind of make it trust you again in a way. Just post general and short posts, with time you'll be fine.

BassReeves:
Your post here, gives quite a bit, a reflection of the world inside you. Everything that's bugging you about others can lead to a better understanding of yourself

What evil(s) specifically has BassReeves done you beloved?

Everything that you see me negatively as, is unreal, is a shadow cast by that which you dont positively see me as, caused by you standing in the path of light

Lol, is your love for homosexuality not enough evil to rend her heart, mtchew. You no try, you supposed to give her orientation on the spam bot to prevent this her frustrations.

See this one is speaking grammar. You never see reality, may you not see problem in Jesus name.
@OP, your greatest weapons remain faith and a holy life. Yeah, prayer, praise, fasting, anointing, deliverance may have their place. But to win squarely and individually, employ FAITH. Faith should be enough but i don't want you to suffer like the sons of Sceva depending on what exactly you're dealing with, so put in holiness.

petra1:
You Ole too nah. All of us have gotten money one way or the other from funny sources. Even if you're an Uber driver . Do you ask your passenger where he got the money,? . You are Ole part 2

So you compare your pastor to an uber driver? Does an uber driver have the same level of Holy Spirit and discernment that your pastor should have? Does an uber driver take donations in millions and billions and give awards to the donors/partners without question?

chrisxxx:
He started with some preambles and made sure he cornered me.
He asked, David killed Goliath, right?
I said yes.
He said the tunic was too heavy for David to wear wasn't it?
I said yes.
Daddy did you know that Goliath would also use a giant sword?
I was just answering yes to free myself.
I didn't know the small boy of six was up to something.
And the bombshell!
Daddy if David çould not wear the tunic because it was too heavy for him, where did he get the strength to use Goliaths sword to cut off his head?
Can someone help out with this question?

Please study the Word of God more on behalf of your family, you are their priest and head. You could easily have said "the same way that he killed a lion and a bear, by the help of God". Usually, that is important, enough and a big lesson for the six year old. Emphasis on lesson.
On a general logical perspective though, the issue with the armour of Saul to David was more an issue of experience, not weight. BTW, you don't compare the weight of a whole armour to that of a knife, cutlass, sword or same family. So David did not have any experience using armour as compared to the sling.
1 Samuel 17:38 And Saul armed David with his armour, and he put an helmet of brass upon his head; also he armed him with a coat of mail. 17:39 And David girded his sword upon his armour, and he assayed to go; for he had not proved it. And David said unto Saul, I cannot go with these; for I have not proved them. And David put them off him.

 38  Saul put his own clothes on David. He put his *bronze *helmet on David’s head. Then he dressed David with his *armour.

 39  David put on the *sword and the *armour. He tried to walk but he had not worn *armour before. David said to Saul, ‘I cannot wear all this *armour. I have never used it.’ So David took it all off.

 38  Saul put his battle tunic on David; he put a bronze helmet on David’s head and dressed him in armor.

 39  David fastened Saul’s sword over his clothes and tried to walk, but he had never practiced doing this. “I can’t walk in these things,” David told Saul. “I’ve never had any practice doing this.” So David took all those things off.

BassReeves:
Check your schedule and tell me what your free time is, so I can organise and invite you to private chatroom or otherwise, where we can, for as long as you are up for, have an uninterrupted discussion and do it in real time, without time lag.

This forum will do just fine in my opinion for this issue. i appreciate the offer and honour, thanks my good friend.

BassReeves:
Not good enough as you better get used to homosexuals being homosapiens aka human beings and that everything good about homosexuality is not just human but is divine too. It has nothing to do with animal nature and influence, as you put it in your signature

Homos are humans like me that God loved and died for, that is not being contended. They are behaving like animals. God is not an homo or animal, there is nothing divine about being homo, let's respect ourselves.

Correction, I dont do argument. What specifically is sickening to you about two people loving each other until death do them part?I hope you'll have chutzpah big and good enough to answer that easy, simple harmless and innocent question

It is sickening to do the unseemly. That is exactly how any normal person feels, sickened. You are free to embark on the research of the specifics.

I am glad you have the correct sense to know and admit this. So being a homosexual then doesn't make them any less a human being, they are human, simple.

i never said they are less than humans, read me well. They are behaving like animals, homosexuality is animal behaviour.

Did you read that in your bible, that, after the fall where man was first influenced by the serpent, he has started to behave like an animal? Smh.

Did you read in your Bible that there was a fall at all?

The bible unequivocally states that every human being are created in the image of the Godhead, after the likeness of the Godhead, so how you try to sling in image of animals, is head scratching to say the least

We were created in the image of God, but all have sinned and come short of God's glory. It is not rare to see man behaving like animals and beasts, that is how low we have come. i want to guess you have never seen or heard of a man behaving like an animal.

You should have deeply considered this question before ignorantly equating homosexuals' attraction, devotion affection, loyalty, faithfulness, kindness etc to each other as not Human but animal nature and influence.

Male sleeping with male, female sleeping with female is animal behaviour.

Its obvious there a lot more talked about here you havent a Scooby doo and not know

Then do well to write with clarity.

You cant be serious putting a God fearing monogamous homosexual in the same box with a thief, murderer or idolater

Where is the love to neighbour and God in being a thief, murderer or idolater? Smh

You cannot be a God fearing sinner, The Bible puts them in the same box, not just me.
1Co 6:9  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 
1Co 6:10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 

Pinpoint what exactly is the animal behaviour, you are referring to here please.

Male sleeping with male, and female mating with female is found in some species of animals. That is the animal behaviour.

Its you doing the twisting because, yes, God's design for man (i.e. human beings) is clearly male and female, Adam and Eve, but you leave out Adam and Steve and Madam and Eve

Gen 1:27  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen_5:2  Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Mat_19:4  And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Mar_10:6  But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

Guess who leaves out Steve and Madam, guess intelligently please. A 6year old can answer this, stop falling hands.

Please Image123 beloved, say it as it, make use of an opportunity to put your finger exactly on what is sin in two monogamous devout God-fearing, God-believing same sex couple loving each other until death do part them?

There are no God fearing sins or sinners. If you fear God, you will stay away from sin. The Bible calls homos sinners, that is exactly where my finger is. Anything God hates is sin, do you believe so?

LordReed:
You apparently didn't read what I wrote well:

Apparently i didn't, my bad. Adam was man enough though.

If Jesus is real and the Bible is true, then Heaven and hell are real. You should be discussing the reality of Jesus and the Bible.

udomonday:
I tell you.

Yes na, Nehemiah was a governor like him. This one just carry title no vision.

LordReed:
Hmmm, I am sure such a man will fit well with Marvel Avengers. LMAO!

Maybe. What great thing can man conceive that God cannot do. We're talking of one man that maintained Eden at an Edenic level.

Unknown gunmen please.

LordReed:
Perfect in what way?

I have no real reason to think there is a "supernatural".

Perfectly created to multiply and replenish the earth. You can't understand that if you don't know the supernatural. A man that lived over 900years old evidently cannot have the same build as one struggling with 80years. In other words, this one is 2 parallel lines and planes. Forget it already, it's beyond your class.

knowhowk:
Hello ,Happy Sunday to everyone . Let's us be real ,No Sentiments . It's a SIN to engage in Premarital SEX ,It's a SIN to Engage in any form of Sexual relationship ,If you must do then go and get Married .

There is no Financial Stability ,Infact No Job ,No Apartment ,You still squats with a Friend , Offcourse you are a Graduates with Good Grades .But No Job .Your Private Part is very Active ,Blood flows in your healthy body .The Urge to Have SEX is their ,You are already an Adult 35/40 Years .The Main issue is this ,There is this Serious Stomach Disturbances you Experience ,Never had a Sexual Experience before at 38 Years but there is this Serious Abdominal/ Stomach Disturbances just round the Navel that comes ,its Hell ,


When an enquiry was made they mentioned that it's as a results of too much Accumulation of Sperm " Oga ,Have you had SEX before ,The answer is NO ...The man was simply given a Pill to reduce the Pains but to face the reality of Solving it . He wanted to resort to MASTURBATION ,Pastor says it's a SIN too ,No stable Job ,No Apartment of His own .Don't Marry without been Financially stable ,Continuing Praying ,Will Prayer remove the Accumulation of the Sperm ? Pastor Righteousness over to you sir .Comments oooo.......I am Happily Married with Kids ...It's an experience of Someone oooo .it's not me pls.

Where was this quack enquiry made?

LordReed:
The laws before the Bible were only applicable to the communities that made them so can I be saying they applied to all humans?

The law itself must contain punishment for its disobedience or else it has no force. Can you take any law and excise it of it's punishments and still think you have a law? The law is a totality, you are the one deviating, calling it ceremonial law, moral law and trying distinguish between a law and the punishments it prescribes. I am talking of law as a whole, you want to take parts of it.

i didn't say that the laws before the Bible were applied to all humans, OF COURSE NOT. i say just like you say that there were laws before the Bible. And that the Bible attests to same. But that the huge difference is that the Bible laws(what we've being referring to as moral laws) is a Universal and Unchanging Leveller forever.
Evidently, the law is different from the punishment as you have agreed. The law is what we are talking about, not the punishment. If your personal opinion is that a law must/can not be separated from its punishment, that is your personal opinion. You are free to have it. However, it is not so in the Bible and in reality. An offence can have different punishment and fines. i don't make the separations, you surely have heard these things before this current discussion. i only remeind you of them to give you a true perspective. Are you aware that some countries did away with(or try to) the death penalty. Are those crimes that carried the penalty done away with or the punishment was changed?

LordReed:
Because 2 people cannot give enough genetic diversity. The common ancestor was not a single pair but several groups of them, I think at least 18 females and 18 males have been identified as the mitochondrial Eve and mitochondrial Adam respectively. This makes way more sense than a fairytale about a talking snake.

A perfect Adam and Eve does it easily, just like you hope a "common ancestor" had enough genetic diversity. i understand your point though, you doubt the supernatural.

LordReed:
Not only apes but all other living things as well. Add to that our morphological and physiological similarities. Man did not evolve from monkeys, man and other hominids evolved from a common ancestor following different evolutionary paths so there is no way they were all going to turn out the same. Maybe in a million years we will be different from how we are now but that cannot be predicted with any type of accuracy and that includes what will happen to the other apes.

My apeman Reed. Why do you and your colleagues find it strange to see all men come from 2 people and not turn out the same, but believe that we evolve from a common ancestor?

BassReeves:
Image123 beloved, she ought and should forgive herself, then she'll heal

Clay can be dirt in the wrong hands, but clay can be art in the right hands. You don't understand.

I am always straightforward and on top present facts, when talking about monogamous same sex relationships but you are too slow, too narrow minded, too weak mentally, too poor a 2 Timothy 2:15 bible student, too shallow in stamina, too scared of your shadow etc to keep up and go the distance. All of youse are. You never response to easy, direct, innocent, simple, harmless questions anytime asked you, but rather go for the easy option of ignoring the questions, sidestepping the questions, pretend not reading the questions, dont answer the questions in the same numbered styling and format.

Are you going to join the gang of those falsely accusing the brethren. When and where is your proof of me vowing anything long ago to you or anyone else for that matter. Hey?

If i have the time, of course i will answer your questions. In fact, i had it in mind to answer your previous questions before you stopped using the other handle. But i guess time took over, and here we are . Bring in dem questions on time.