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Incrizz:
The Covid vaccine is a very touchy topic for some. I had to weigh the consequence, bashing from you and others, before including it.

i did not bash you, i only told you the truth from a bigger and more experienced perspective. Stick to what the Bible says and you won't have problems. Stop doing things that will make you doubt God and doubt your salvation and experience in future. It's not God's fault.

Incrizz:
Matthew 18:9 King James Version

“And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.”

Bill Gates once mentioned in a video that the Covid 19 vaccine has nano particles in them, about six in number.
He said they would reassemble once inside the body.

Incase you don't know how small NANO particles are,
they are smaller in size than atoms!

Yeah, not visible to the naked eye.

So if you are thinking that nothing is being inserted into people who are taking the vaccine at the moment, kindly think again.

Infact, I dare to say that you never really knew that person who has now taken the Covid vaccine. You thought you knew them, but you didn't.
They are very deep and have gone very far prior to now.
They have since, long ago, made a pact with the devil that they feel compelled to fulfil now because they have been deceived by the devil to think they can't walk away from it.
Or, they are simply deceived by the allures of the pleasures of this life and want more of it to the destruction of their own soul.


Mark 8:36
What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world and suffer the loss of his own soul?

Them-them are all lining up to take the vaccine at the moment.

If you are trading in cryptos, learn not to fall in love with money.
When the time comes, you must not let your love for riches tempt you to receive the mark of the beast.

No human can create life itself.
A clone of you with only a copy of your memory is not you.
Once you die, your life would return to its Maker for judgement.
Having a copy of you left behind here on earth while you die, is simply a recipe for disaster, and it is not worth receiving the mark of the beast for.

Hebrews 9:27
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:”

Stop embarrassing yourself and the gospel please. Stick to what the Bible says and not all these twisting about vaccines. You'll be fine in the Christian race if you keep it simple.

While it's not sinful to use a jet or a car, it takes simple planning to preach the gospel. There are simple schedules you can't make on the same day. Why do you want to have five services in five states or nations on the same day? What happened to other days? When you overbook yourself, then you'll need even "rent a ghost" to be disappearing here and there. There are great men of God from the apostles down to the contemporary days who have achieved greater exploits for God without private jets.

It largely depends on upbringing and financial status of the two parties. You tend to flow with people you are compatible with. If the two parties are compatible, they will flow. If there is incompatibilities like in mindsets, religion, finance, education, in-laws etc, they will not flow.

LordReed:
Did he or did he not know that they were going to be his enemies?

The Bible does not state that and you are yet to show where it is so stated. Nonetheless, from the Bible, we can both reasonably see that God knows the end FROM the beginning. You are interpreting BEFORE the beginning. If we stick to the Bible and not to your wish on the quality/characteristics/claims of God, He knows from the beginning. If you still do not get that, i'll use the illustration of a pregnant woman. There are many 'future' things that a scan shows on a fetus(e.g the EDD and gender). You don't see them before the beginning. Like you have silently agreed, God did not create enemies.

I wrote can and you are speaking as if I wrote will. Is your god able (can) to destroy anything he made?

There is no such suggestion or conception in the Bible or from me. So since you conceived it, you should have something specific about it, not just laying wild claims. It is tantamount to folly and stupid questions. i am sure you know the commandment on such questions. i would respect you enough as not to ask you a foolish question about you out of the blue, you should have the same cordiality.

What is the definition of freewill you are using and what has it got to do with the subject.

Freewill is basically the ability to make independent moral decisions as persons. It has everything to do with what you are saying. The implications of having no freewill.

I didn't know spirits have neurochemical structures, tell me more.

Tell me if there is a law against spirits having neurochemical structures and changes?

sagieramos:
The Bible definition of soul have to be considered. The soul is no different from a person according to genesis 2:7

i certainly didn't quote the koran, did i?

FatherOfJesus:
You have started asking stupid questions.

Do you want to provide a testable method to measure soul or you want to keep asking questions like a primary 2 pupil?

Someone asked me "Should I simplify it further?", here i am asking for further simplification and you flare up. Is your lab test actually subject to a lab test?

sagieramos:
I understand that the Bible uses the word soul in place of person, for those alive, he call them a living soul.

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (Genesis 2:7)

We're all a living soul as long as we're still alive, but when we die our soul die and our body/flesh return back to the dust. In fact, Ezekiel 18:4 tells us that the soul can die

You ignored the Bible verse i quoted which you asked for.

FatherOfJesus:
Seems you lack scientific understanding.

By measuring the concentration of certain neurotransmitter in circulation, you can measure the degree of happiness. How can you measure soul? None, no way cos it doesn’t exist

Should I simplify it further?
When you start understanding science, most of these claims by religion becomes laughable.

So dear scienter, which came first, the icecream or the serotonin?

FatherOfJesus:
By buying an ice cream for a kid, you will measure happiness and see that it exist. You can go further by taking blood samples as at the point of the child’s happiness state, you will discover that his happiness was triggers by release of serotonin and dopamine from certain glands that modulated the reward pathway in the brain that triggered that feeling of happiness.


You can also measure sadness by taking sample from someone who just lost a loved one, you will discover that his blood has a lot of GABA inhibitory neurotransmitters that has inhibited the excitation of certain neurons in the brain by inhibiting dopamine receptors.


You can go on to measure the remaining by studying specific neurotransmitter pathways.

So how do you measure a soul?

i don't ask for proof or signs of happiness, sadness, gloom, despair and backstabbing. i asked if you can measure with accuracy.

FatherOfJesus:
Yes, you can test all of this and capture them in picture as evidence

How do you measure accurate degree of happiness, sadness, gloom, despair and backstabbing?

sagieramos:
Under what verse?

1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

FatherOfJesus:
do you know what testing is?

I should know without being sure?

Do you have a accurate measurement for happiness, sadness, gloom, despair and backstabbing?

showafrica:
Just remembering what Buhari is doing here will make you knock anybody out.

My exact thoughts oh, funny. Anyone seeing the way the country is doing will beat nonsense out of the contender oh. Good season for Nigerian boxers and wrestlers, the Nigerian situation dey motivate them.

sagieramos:
What's your reference?

Humans and you guess right, the Bible.

FatherOfJesus:
How can we test the existence of a soul?

By knowing what a soul does.

FatherOfJesus:
body has evidence

Spirit and souls do not, it’s just mere believe

The body is the physical part of you so it of course has physical evidence. Your soul and spirit are not physical.

FatherOfJesus:
Souls do not exist.
You die and saprophytes recycle your atoms back into the universe.

Anyone telling you souls exist do that based on what they believe and what they want to be the truth. They cannot provide any evidence

You are composed of spirit, soul and body. While your physical body decomposes, your soul doesn't.

To hell or Abraham's bosom.

i didn't see the WHY, let me read again when i have time.

LordReed:
You asked for my view I give it and you call it false assumptions, when I ask you to clarify you ask me questions. What really do you want? If you not going to clarify what you call false assumptions then what are you doing?

Fair then, don't make further needless and unbiblical assumptions and insinuations. If you have a question, ask directly instead of making claims and half-truths expecting me to accept or refute them all.

Your god supposedly made everything,

God is the Source and Creator of all the Universe and its inhabitants. Every raw material and power. However, you don't throw in a blanket idea or connotation of God making your food or the Nigerian Stock Exchange or devils. These were not there in the beginning.

knows everything

God is Omniscient and the biblical definitions and implications are summarily that you cannot hide anything from God. Another which you alluded to is that He knows the end FROM the beginning. You are interpreting BEFORE the beginning.

and can destroy everything,

This is quite senseless, why should God destroy everything. The Bible makes no such allusions or suggestions except you refuse to take into cognizance the true meaning and implications of everything.

it is inconceivable that such a god has enemies because it means he made those enemies knowing they will be his enemies then turns around to hate the enemies he made knowing fully well they are going to be his enemies. It's just too silly, it makes the god sound stupid.

With the above in mind, i will ask again. Is it okay to have freewill or it is not?

Emotions are based on neurochemical changes in a body, does your god have neurochemical changes in his body?

Like i said earlier, let's assume with you that neurochemistry is solely responsible for emotions. Is there a law against God having emotions or even having neurochemical changes in His body given the fact that He is a Spirit?

Jayrockk:
I'm a Christian and I believe God is perfect in all ramifications, but sometimes when i start to think of the evil that has happened, and the evil happening these days I tell myself this could have been avoided if God destroyed the devil. I ask myself why God didn't kill the devil and also why was the forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden in the first place. I know the devil is the cause of evil but sometimes I blame God for what's happening and doubt His existence sometimes, but then deep down i know He is real. So religious experts in the house what's your say about this?

Satan is a spirit, spirits are not exactly made to die in the sense that we know death. Devil has been judged and is to be cast in the lake of fire at the time appointed. As to why we are tempted either by devil or the tree etc. We are tempted to be toughened, trusted and purified. It's like asking why crude oil is refined to be made useful. The process of refining is not funny or cool, but without it most precious minerals will be pretty much useless.

LordReed:
You are the one with a god to prove. I have asked you questions about your god go ahead and answer them, including the one about whether or not he has a body that can be neurochemically modified.

Lol, then stop making false assertions and assumptions. Ask your questions straightforward and humbly. Too much fallacies and half truths will cost you a smooth journey. BTW, i don't have to prove God.

You failed to answer if anything was wrong with God having emotions which is fundamental and summary to your question, instead of going the route of what causes emotions.
Man was created in the image of God, let that sink in. Now let's assume for peace and time's sake that emotions are solely caused by neurochemistry. Is there anything wrong or a law against God having neurochemical changes in His body given the fact that He is a Spirit?

LordReed:
So your god doesn't supposedly know the end from the beginning? Your god supposedly didn't know that Satan would become an enemy? Your god didn't supposedly know that he would sacrifice Jesus from the foundations of the world? Your god supposedly doesn't have the power to destroy anything that he made?

You forgot to prove your assertions and assumptions straightforward.
Also, is it wrong for God to have emotions, why is it wrong? Any law against it?

LordReed:
LMAO! Really? You have a funny way of showing it. Besides I am no longer in the market for religious experiences so you can stop, thanks.

Then stop accusing me falsely.

WorstWanderland:
Have you ever wondered if it is possible that with the popularity of Christianity and it's mass number of members, he there can be a country that has no single church talk more of churches?


if no then fasten your seat belts as i take you on this journey of finding out this fact.



The only country in the world out of over 190 countries with no single church is Saudi Arabia(A Western Asia country). it is the only country in the world where there is no single church.


This country is consisting the bulk of the Arabian peninsula, with a land area of approximately 2,150,000km2, it is geographically the largest sovereign states in West Asia and the second

largest in the Arab world after Algeria

Because it's not allowed duh. You're not allowed or permitted to build a church.

This looks more like a message of hope and goodwill, not a prophecy in the sense many will perceive it.

LordReed:
LMAO! You don't get to turn this around. A bigot is one who seeks the disenfranchisement of others simply because they are different, that doesn't apply to me but it does to you, shadeyinka and the rest of you who hope your god will destroy unbelievers and give you the earth.

i don't seek your disenfranchisement but your salvation.

LordReed:
Your god supposedly made everything, knows everything and can destroy everything, it is inconceivable that such a god has enemies because it means he made those enemies knowing they will be his enemies then turns around to hate the enemies he made knowing fully well they are his enemies. It's just too silly, it makes the god sound stupid.

Emotions are based on neurochemical changes in a body, does your god have neurochemical changes in his body?

In other words, you are saying God should not have made man with a mind and will of his own but as a robot? Your idea of made everything, knows everything and can destroy everything doesn't exist in the Bible but is a figment of your imagination. You are free to prove it wrong straightforward.
What is silly is that you forget to state that God never made anything or anyone as an enemy. How do you manage to skip the fact?
Is it wrong for God to have emotions, why is it wrong? Any law against it?

LordReed:
Including you so your exclusionary statement serves to reveal how much of a bigot you are.

Truth is exclusive by definition. The colour is either white or red. It is not reddish white or whitish red. Exclusivity is not the same thing as bigotry. Yo're pretty much exclusive with the idea that Jehovah God did not create you and that there is no hell fire you are going to. Are you a bigot?

LordReed:
1. It makes no sense that the god you claim is so powerful has enemies.

2. It makes no sense that the god you claim knows the beginning from the end and made all things would harbour such an emotion.

Why would the god even have emotions? Emotions are a function of neurochemical modification of the body, does your god get neurochemical modification of the body?

Yet you were asking where you said that, like i don't know you. How do you arrive at a feeling that it makes no sense for the powerful to have enemies? Any rationale or similarities to back up this?

Why can't God have emotions? Was man not created in God's image? Do you know of a particular God that does not have emotion, or you just have your opinion that God should be emotionless?

LordReed:
Where did I say that?

Is it okay for God to hate His enemies?