kingxsamz: No wonder you follow me all over Nairaland and keep stalking me. Even in food section. And yes, when majority of a population uphold a belief, it is certain that it affects everyone around them, positively or negatively. But you won't know this because you want to argue. Anyone who has sense would see the message behind my initial post. You don't off, killing animals simply because you think they were sent to you. And that's why you're here arguing blindly because you know you're among those "bush, primitive" folks who do this nonsense.
Coming from someone that i was taking through the basics of singular and plural last week, this is dismissed juvenile delinquency. Grow up, you that has never heard of the Greek empire and Roman empire calling others Bush and primitive. i follow you on nairaland, it's a feature put there by the programmers. You can follow people on nairaland or on Twitter. That is not stalking or trolling. i reply to some of your obvious folly about God, not to any other thing you talk about, except when i sometime adviced you to reduce either your oil or egg intake, not too sure which again.
kingxsamz: In conclusion, if you believe that birds and cats are being used and controlled to attack people in their homes, you are nothing but a delusional Buffalo, and should be dumped in the forest where you belong.
In conclusion, you made a most foolish suggestions to your spiritual daddy the devil to send crocodiles to harm people in their houses.
kingxsamz: Lmao... See painment Imagine believing a donkey talked, and you're coming here to argue. Hide your head in shame, you're embarrassing yourself.
i am not pained at all, just explaining my one line in many sentences. Finally you understand that i believe in miracles. It's nothing to be ashamed of. That you don't seem to have seen one doesn't mean everyone else has not. Have some sense.
kingxsamz: Because that donkey part sounds absurd right? See how you're avoiding it, like a plaque. Or are you ashamed of your so called holy book?
i am not just knowing you on this thread neither are you. Be cured of your amnesia in Jesus name. i clearly remember telling you that i believe God and the Bible 100%, on this same thread. Later on still on this thread you asked this inane question again and i replied yet again that every thing in the Bible happened just the way it's recorded. Don't hang yourself over it. God is a miracle working God. There is nothing absurd about miracles. They are supernatural occurrences. Nothing to be avoided there or have violent spasms about like you seem to have. You believe the miraculous event between Balaam and his donkey is the centre and summary of his bible account, i don't see it that way. There are different chapters and passages that talk about Balaam. He is more known to me as the man who tried several times to curse who no man can curse, and ended up blessing them. The highlight for you was the supernatural occurrence of his donkey talk. That's your opinion and you are free to have it. i 100% believe it but it's not the main thing about Balaam for me. Very simple.
musicwriter: For anybody who wants to set themselves free, the man below was born into a Christian family, in fact, in a church. Both his father and mother are pastors. But when he grew up he decided to research Christianity after he saw an online post like this. Watch below how he freed his mind. Its in episodes of up to 20 videos. Watch from 1.0 to 2.6.
A fallacy as expected. Many people get converted every day. Being born a Christian or Hindu is not a big deal. People are converted or changed to different religions every day regardless of what or where they were born. The video says nothing too. All i see was a guy who WAS sincere about christianity since he was born into it. One can be sincerely wrong. Maybe he was born again, fair. Though the "testimony" misses the major ingredients of a past sinner life, a genuine conviction, and the change that followed. The baptism testimony is even more shallow. He got a wrong spirit not the Holy Spirit. He doesn't know common meaning of intercessory prayer despite been born inside church. Doesn't know the meaning of omniscience. Just unfortunately too ignorant.
musicwriter: Mythology is not history, rather its an ancient story used to explain abstract concepts. Example; you read in your bible of snake talking to Eve or donkey talking to Balaam or Satan talking to Job. But that's the way ancient people wrote. It does not mean there was a real snake or real Eve or real donkey or real Balaam or real Job or real Satan. Its just mythology meant to teach something. Unfortunately, Europeans misinterpreted them as literal in your bible, so that the message the ancient people were trying to pass has been lost in religious dogmatism.
In African mythology, you hear of the wise tortoise who always outsmart other people or other animals to marry a kings daughter or to win some awards. It does not mean there was ever a wise tortoise or a king or a daughter to be married. Its mythology meant to explain abstract concepts. Again, that's the way ancient people wrote.
The problem is that you Christians have refused to grow up, so you believe your bible mythology is history. The white man has actually convinced you in the bible that a tortoise married a human being!. Its like an African believing there was a smart tortoise that married a kings daughter in ancient time. That's how childish and dumb it is to believe in most bible stories.
@kingxsamz never told you that Julius Caesar or Aristotle existed or not. He simply told you the truth that he doesn't know. But it doesn't change the history because as I said in my previous post, your belief has no impact on history.
The books by both Julius Caesar and Aristotle were written by themselves, not what people wrote about them. Julius Caesar wrote his Gallic wars after returning from war. Aristotle wrote most of his books in Egypt after Alexander the so called great invaded Egypt and brought in Greek settlers. You can't say that of anybody in the bible; expect Paul. However, researchers say Paul wrote just about 5 or 6 books. The only epistles that bible scholars consider authentic are Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, and Philemon. The rest of so called letters by Paul are letters manufactured by the Roman empire in the name of Paul to impress upon the early Christians to obey certain rules.
Moses did not write Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. Researchers say the books were written over thousands of years by so many authors. Example; Moses died in the book of Exodus when the bible god said he won't get to the promised land but miraculously he wrote Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy after he died. How come?
Don't believe. Research it. The age of BELIEVING is gone. We're in the age of KNOWING.
Like i have stated, you make a good comedian. Myths involve popular belief or tradition usually historical events. Some people believe them to be true. Some people believe and worship those Greek gods, they believe the stories literally. What is myth to you is another person's belief so stop twisting and turning like a snake.
i'm not aware of people literally believing the short bedtime or moonlight African tales you refer to. Even the tellers don't say they are real, those are children stories. Not history of any kind.
BTW, your coward friend does not believe Caesars and Aristotle exist because admitting to believing that makes him look more foolish than he already does. Of course, Aristotle wrote his books in your bedroom and in your presence, while your grandad wrote Moses own that day you came back from school. How could i forget so soon.
Mr Researcher, you can believe what you know. They are not mutually exclusive actions.
kingxsamz: Seems like you're one of those bush people who hurt innocent animals simply because you believe one imaginary black man with horns sent them to you. Since you believe that this 'devil' could posses animals and control them, what stops it from making them appear in your room, whether you live in the village or city? Primitive thoughts like this are one the reasons why Africa is backwards, but here you are saying crap.
You are the one actually saying rubbish because the premise is very clear and common. You suggested sending lions and crocodiles which you think would be of harm and unstoppable. Then you were shown your folly as usual. Chief goofer. BTW, people's individual beliefs are not the reason for your backward. People all over the world believe a lot of coc.k and bull. As usual, you don't know anything, if not you would know that there are different types of intelligence. Someone for instance can be academically intelligent but financially foolish.
kingxsamz: But it is a bird abi? Learn to read and comprehend next time, and not reading to reply. As usual, you'll always miss the point and say something dumb. Master ko.
Notice how you again missed the point. You made a foolish suggestion on what animal your master should possess.
kingxsamz: Typical African primitive mindset. People with such mentality should be living in the forest, not amongst civilized folks. Imagine! In 2020 and you still believe that a black man (devil) with horn and tails, sends birds and cats to people's homes to harm them. Smh. If truly such thing exists and it wanted to harm you, it'll send Lions and crocodiles to your home, not harmless cats... Bush people!
This is not a cat as you implied. Your master is smarter than sending/possessing a lion or crocodile to harm someone in his house in the city. Always try hard, i believe God gave you thinking capacity.
properties4sale: Hi thread; just need an input from you all, at what age did you really realise as an adult, religion and superstitious doesn't put food on the table, but the work of your hands? That in fact they are only ideologies sold to cover for the ignorance of humans.
For me I'll say 26/7 , at 28 I understood better. I'm 32 now.
What about you?
I was about 8years old when God did a visible miracle in the house i lived. Before then i used to hear about God doing miracles pretty much like everyone else. Didn't have to think much about it though since i probably didn't need one or didn't think i needed one. But there was this relative of mine who needed one obviously because one of her legs was shorter than the other. She was using crutches or special shoes. Then she was taken to church(though not the first time) and came back with her obvious miracle.
It didn't make me any more or less serious but it was something i evidently witnessed in my own house. It was years later on before i took God serious. And of course, i have continued to see His faithfulness in my life and in many other lives.
Luckily for me, i have always known that religion does not put food on tables. We have always been taught the value and importance of the works of our hands. i also grew up in a setting where pastors and other MOGs had their proper secular work.
MaxInDHouse: So you mean Mary is not alive in heaven right now?
i mean you are alive on earth to pray for us. i'm just giggling at your dance. i remember one Jehovah wickedness that broke bottle on his in law's head because he was asked to pray. LMSO
kingxsamz: Lmao, how did you skip the main part of that story in which he was confronted by an Angel? I'm talking about the part he's known for. Even in religious children's books, that Balaam's part is illustrated to show Balaam's encounter with an Angel. Why you dey dodge am? Abi did Balaam just change his mind and decided to bless them?
You're obviously mentally disturbed. You asked for what Balaam is known for and you have been told. There is no part of Balaam's story to dodge including the doctrine of Balaam, the way of Balaam or the error of Balaam. If the donkey part strikes you most, good for you. It doesn't mean everyone must share your inanities. Like i have told you several times, every thing happened just the way it's recorded. Don't hang yourself over it. God is a miracle working God. My surprise so far is your showing less sense than your fantasy donkey.
kingxsamz: You're the one confusing yourself here oga. And I refuse to go in circles with you. What particular event is Balaam known for in your bible? If you can answer that, then we can continue this convo. Till then, cry yourself to sleep.
Trying to curse the children of Israel but ending up blessing them. Again i answer that because you don't know, not because of a conversation. Who knows how long you have imaginary conversations with yourself like in the first page.
kingxsamz: If to say you sabi read, or you dey calm down digest information before rushing to comment like who dog dey pursue, you'd know that nowhere in my writeup did I say Balaam never existed. It's like you're high tonight.
kingxsamz: And if one doesn't know one of those popular names, anything he says concerning those he knows about is invalid? Is history about knowing the popular ones? And who's arguing how the history of past people are being discovered with you? Stop smoking weird substances, you won't hear.
What do you know about? Balaam? The thread is about the possible existence of Balaam. You tried to dismiss it by fallaciously bringing up talking donkeys. i referred you to secular history where i felt you should have some footing or understanding, you confessed failure. i took you to football which i hoped you will have an idea as a Nigerian male. Then you are changing the narrative and missing the point as is habitual of you. You are the one that doesn't know why i mentioned Aristotle and the Caesars. Because they are historical figures like Balaam. Same way if you want to talk football history or rather historical figures in football, there are some names that would definitely come up if you know your onions.You have failed to mention any historical personality. It remains a waste of time engaging you in the topic.
kingxsamz: Chai... Oh its no more 'Football' it's now 'football history'.? .. Do you see why I call you delusional sometimes?
Do you suffer from ADHD? Your attention span is very short. We have been talking history since page one. Historical figures. Then i tried helping you with football since you showed you don't know secular history. All you can do in return is resort to name calling. Your favourites being clown or delusion.
kingxsamz: Eyah... That argument won't work anymore. You're looking for something to hold on to as usual. You should have asked that lame question when you had the chance, rather than jumping into conclusions that I know and believe in the existence of some Aristotle and Ceasar.
No, i am hoping you can finally think. Since you are talking about history and dismissing it. It is only logical to find out the one you know and why. You don't go into the midst of doctors or engineers or lawyers and dismiss what they are saying. They will need to know your credibility and base. Since you dismiss Balaam's existence, who do you believe existed. Very simple and straight forward. You cannot answer because you know it's a checkmate. Hope you know the meaning of checkmate BTW. As soon as you think you have a move, you'd answer. You don't want to learn/know. You just want so much to be right.
kingxsamz: Omo see logic. According to our brethren here. You must know about Messi, Ronaldo and Pele before you can be eligible to talk about football. As if Ronaldo, Messi and Pele started Football itself.
If you want to talk about historical footballers or football history, you know those popular names. If you want to talk about world history, secular history, you know those popular names. Those who know those popular names don't have any other basic evidence for their history than discoveries similar to what the OP talks about. What class are you exactly? It seems you lack CPU or something.
kingxsamz: Good. It means you're gradually coming back to your default state, and also to your senses. We weren't born as Christians or Muslims. We didn't uphold any belief whatsoever, not until we were fed fictional stories as facts.
All humans were born to worship. The ones who don't worship God or the popular gods worship trees, the sun, water, human beings, money, women, education, all kinds of things. Nebuchadnezzar worshipped himself at a point. What is your god?
kingxsamz: Bro, you're not bright at all. You and your flawed logic. But what if I know Messi, Ronaldo and Pele, but I don't know anything about kante or De gea, does that mean I shouldn't contribute in matters involving football? Can you see that you have no point? Or is football revolved around knowing the popular players? Omo guy your level of reasoning is too low. And when Someone says Messi existed, is it wrong if another person points out what Messi is known for? Or can you tell me what Balaam is known for in your bible? Talking donkey right?
The fact that you say one can not drop opinions On history simply because he doesn't know a popular figure is dumb. Does the whole of history revolve around Ceasar? Mr man think!
CAPSLOCKED: JUST LIKE YOU, I THOUGHT I WAS INSANE TO NOT BELIEVE IN DEITIES UNTIL 6 YEARS AGO WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE MILLIONS LIKE ME ON THIS FORUM AND EVERYWHERE ELSE ON AND OFF THE INTERNET. YOU'RE PERFECTLY NORMAL AND LEAVING RELIGION WOULD BE ONE OF THE BEST DECISIONS YOU'LL MAKE IN YOUR LIFE.
Any real believer knows there are billions of sinners out there. It is a pity you just knew this six years ago.