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DonCortino:
Is there another person? I thought we have seen Stephanie already?

Lol, he was exposed, Otobo apparently exposed herself, remains his blackmailers. What does he mean by presentable, is it the face, height, colour or what? What makes someone presentable for adultery? i am not understanding.

HardMirror:
So armed robbers rob because of recession? Are you just hearing of robberies?
Infact last year december had the least incidence of bank robberies in recent times (I don't know why) despite the recession.
Greed drives robbers

Look at you, here you are talking of greed driving or motivating people. Yet when i explained at your level of understanding how God motivates people, you acted blind grasping at straws. Hypocrisy

adepeter26:
Ohh blood of lucifer

The blood of lucifer has yet to save one soul, save your breath.

HardMirror:
Does your god work?
Afterall if you ask him/her/it for something and he/her/it does not answer (for obvious reasons of course), you still praise your god. So if I take potter as my god, I don't really need harry potter to work. Meaning anything can be god. You just rely on probability and if you are lucky even the most improbably probability can coincidentally fall in place for you.
Who needs god?
But we sure need drugs for jobs dogs can do, it's not coincidence. It is realistic expectation proven outcomes.

Lemme see the Potter Bible and it's usefulness to life. My God's words have been saving wretched chronic sinners since forever. The vilest made the meekest, He turned my life around totally. If your choice can do same, thumbs up.

HardMirror:
When was the red sea spitted? I guess harry potter killing voldermot is also real

Who cares? You.

HardMirror:
The God u just described above is called "Coincidence". All glory be to Coincidence, the God of all christians. If it happens then it is his/her/it's will, if it does not happen, it is still his/her/it's will. That is called Coincidence. So do you worship coincidence?

Hmmm coincidence. The splitiing of the red sea was also coincidence i guess, or the straightening and equalling of the legs of someone we once lived together. i'd rather worship such coincidence than be as confused as the average atheist.

HardMirror:
Of cos God can be your motivation. Even a dead person can be enough motivation. But a dead person is not as useful to me as a living or dead dog. If I had a dead dog, I could choose to convert the dog to food. That is by the way anyway.

Having money as motivation does not mean I communed with money and money told me how to win a race. So is "god", god could be a source of motivation, but how do you commune with this "god" and how did he help an athlete win a race? Motivation is in the head, so perhaps god is not real just as so many things we could draw motivation from. I could draw motivation from Elsa in the animated movie "FROZEN" or from Harry Potter too

Remember your question, you asked for the benefits of communicating/communing with God/gods. People get their motivation from it and go on to become achievers. Look for your own motivation and stop hating mister. God definitely works for a lot of people as we can both attest to. If Potter works for you, what are you waiting for already?

HardMirror:
By the way image123, don't forget that religious people praise god in all situations. Even those that did not win, even in failure. So it is self defeating to claim god does anything, after all, he/she/it is praised in all situation.

Unlike a dog, I can't claim a dog rescued my child if a dog was never involved in the rescue. But god is praised in all. Different gods, all situations, it's just a cluster of confusion and self delusion.

They are simply grateful, you are not. Or is there a new scientific meter to measure gratefulness?

dalaman:
I disbelieve them because tey haven't show us how any God has helped them achieve anything. They do all that is expected of them, after achieving something they simply regurgitate the tradition of attributing it to their God. Nothing there at all. Every body does that. It's a normal human behavior amongst religious people. The claims remain empty, since no one has been able to demonstrate how his/ her God alone has specifically helped him/her achieve any thing, they wouldn't have been able to achieve without doing what was expected of themm

Oh well, you have the right to your opinions as they have the right to theirs. You should be worried about the number and frequency i guess.

HardMirror:
Imagine your child gets lost in the woods (in a country where they do things right), is god useful or a dog useful in tracking the child?

Doing incidences of collapsed buildings and natural disaster; is god useful or are dogs useful in search and rescue?

Lol, God is not your boy or maid. It's as foolish as me concluding that you are not useful because you do not wash my clothes. You are not compelled to such function, even though you may do it for whatever reason you choose. God does lead people though. i recall a friend whose truck(only source of income then) got stolen. We(the church) prayed and suddenly the 'idea'came as to where to look. It was a strange and impossible place to look, but we did look in faith. Lo and behold, it was there, and it was recovered. The then 'unserious' brother is a pastor today. He was too shocked, and not only him we were. God can help you get what you are looking for, and He can choose not to. He is Sovereign, duh.
Dogs have combed several places in search of missing people and in crime scenes, sometimes to no avail. It doesn't mean they are useless. Torchlights have their days and usefulness too but it would be silly to conclude they have no use since they couldn't help you locate your lost keys. The point is that people have several testimonies of how God helped them and saved them from being lost, from ritualists, kidnappers etc. You can't take it away from them. Your ignorance and lack of a broad perspective does not stop the work of God.

akintom:
I commit you into the hands of Yahweh, the most dark groping idea. May you find light somewhere, along that endless and darkest tunnel.

i see you found the question hard to answer. It's easier to set exam questions than to take them. ciao

HardMirror:
Smh.
It is still the same. You win a race, you can choose to thank anything you like. Some actually thank god because they feel it is an opportunity to exult their religion. As I said, it does not make it real. Cutting out hearts does not bring good harvest. God does not help people win races.
If I claimed a dog helped me detect a bomb, it is practical and can be proven. It is not just a claim. So asking for prove is in order.

You may not get physical proof for something abstract. Like the analogy that i made, If i said that money was my motivation to win, how do i prove it? Am i the only contestant that had money as motivation? While it may not add up like 2+2, it doesn't change the fact that money can be a motivation to achieve. You asked the benefits of communing with God and listed them later, remember? Some people do receive inspiration and some kind of firing up after communion with God. That answers your question and OP. If you cannot understand such a simple thing, it would get more abstract for you if explained other ways.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

ebosie11:
:-XThe General Overseer of OFM Apostle Suleman has made first appearance after messy s*x allegation.Below are parts of what he said today in church....

'Nothing attacks reputation like allegations'

'God can’t be fighting when you are fighting. God fights when you are still'

'If the devil/ kingdom of hell wants to get at you and make heaven stand firm for you/at your defense they will attack your reputation'

'Nothing attacks reputation like allegations'

'Only those who stand out are confronted'



Source: http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/03/apostle-suleman-makes-first-appearance.html?m=1

You're in court, you instigated police against her, your wife has over 10mins video defending you, your lawyers have threatened Sahara reporters, Omega ministeries and spokesmen have released severally in your defense. What more makes a fight? You wan exchange blow before? Please give concrete excuse, not all these fake quotes. What was Joshua doing when God fought for Israel abi where you dey conjure all these quotes from?

HardMirror:
the question you shld ask yourself is, "won't someone always emerge the winner?"
8 people are running, out of the 8, one person must be the winner. So what is the big deal? How is that god in action?

HardMirror:
Image123 is just being dubious. Claiming a god helped u achieve something is just too ambiguous

The question you should ask yourself is why you do not hear the majority of the people that emerge winners ascribe the glory to God/god. i guess they are dumber than you are but more accomplished than you wish. You asked for the benefits, now you need proof of the benefits. i wonder what you'd ask next. God is not a physical being but a Spirit.
To help you, let me explain in terms of MOTIVATION. Though it's more than that but i hope that explains it better. God, communication or communion with God motivates people to those benefits you list and know. Like money motivates some to greatness or winning. i suppose that's less ambiguous. People think and work towards solution, pray, commune etc until that Eureka inspiration moment. The number, magnitude and frequency from time immemorial is too staggering to be ignored or waved aside by cynical people who are no better.

analice107:
Remember she declared herself God sometime ago. Her religion or Church was called "The Church of O". Whatever she wants, she will get. God allows us have our way till the end.

May God not leave me to myself.

akintom:
Don't distract yourself. Answer my question.

That's my answer to your question. Do you think moral sense and communication with God are the same? Answer this and we take it from there.

dalaman:
My point is saying that God made you achieve something without telling us how he did it is empty. Muslims, Hindus, christians etc all ascribe their various achievements to their various Gods after working hard and doing all that is expected of them.

i don't disbelieve them, you're the one that does. The OP asked for the usefulness of communing with God and i gave him common knowledge. Thousands of people from time immemorial have stated that God/gods have been useful to them contrary to the ignoring presumption of the OP. Dogs are useful personally to him but not to millions of other people.

Where is this pit of hell these guilty people claim?

dalaman:
No scientist has claimed God told him to mix A ND B and he'll get C. All they do is just thank God for giving them the wisdom, something they got through their personal hard work and determination.

Juse as hardmirror said, ab athlete trains very hard for 4 years, competes in an olympic event and wins a medal, then he goes ahead and gives thanks to God. How did God help him win?

You may want to ask them. The other athletes that lost out or couldn't participate also trained for four years or more, certainly that's not the ONLY determining factor. Many people work very hard, harder than anyone all their lives without results. Wisdom is the principal thing, ever heard that?

HardMirror:
You that has the ability to speak with god and hear him. How many problems of mankind has god revealed solutions of to you?
I try my best as a human, but I don't claim to have access to a supposed "almighty god". You are the ones who should prove this god actually contributes to your abilities beyond those of us who have no gods. So where is the prove?

Obviously, if you were told what He did, you wouldn't believe. If i discovered a new cure or invention and told you it was God, you've already said you would not believe. So what exactly do you want?

akintom:
Ok, master of comprehensive prowess. Next time, learn to make sentence, and not banal phrase.

Now to your theory. What's the difference between moral sense and communion/communication with god.

Hey, I'm not your master Mr man, just learn to follow conversation and avoid distractions.
Do you think moral sense and communication with God are the same?

HardMirror:
Lol
You would say anything as long as it makes your god look good. Now the greek gods and roman gods could be real? Wow!
The aztecs and mayans cut out the heart of people to sacrifice to their gods for good harvest, I am sure you would also agree that when ever they have good harvests it is because they sacrificed human hearts to their gods, right? You would agree good harvest is from their gods, just as a christian having a scientific discovery and attributing it to god is also in order.
Indeed religion is a brain drain, you are a living evidence.

The Bible attests to the reality of other gods if you care to study. It's not an opinion i just formulated for you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and you and i are equally entitled to disagree with it. Your OP assumed people don't have benefits communing/communicating with God/gods. Hopefully by now, you see that's an ignorant and hasty generalisation/assumption. Dogs are useful to you but not to all, same way gods are useful to some but not all. Only a busy body increases his blood pressure by such silly arguments crying more than the bereaved. We have yet to see the value of you who is not a brain drain. I'm very sure your family, relatives, neighbors and nation are not all excited about you, so what exactly is your value that theists don't have. Or you think rationality is simply by name calling?

akintom:
Of course, Boko Haram was inspired by the Abrahamic God.

Oh are they? Nice distraction.

HardMirror:
Hehehe
Oh my goodness. Ok let's look into this.

Greeks and romans had many gods and they attributed different successes to different Gods. They had gods they acknowledged for war victories, for wisdom, for discoveries, for cures in medicine etc. Does that make their attributions to these gods real? You as a christian obviously laugh at the thought of greek or roman gods being real or doing anything real.

Back to christians. Christians give god glory for everything. Even their own efforts.


You lose your car keeps, you pray "God pls let me find this keys" while searching frantically for it. You find it you say "thank you Jesus".


An olympic athlete trains for 4years before a tournament, he or she wins and gives a speech thanking God.

A scientist works hard, reads and studies. Tries and fails and tries again. Then he makes a breakthrough only to say, "it is God".

An actor/actress acts an "ungodly" movie and wins an academy award. Then goes on stage saying "it is God"

The fact that people give God credit for their achievements, does not make "God" involved, else which God? The Gods of the greeks, Romans, Yorubas, Ibos? Or which God?

For different races and people have different Gods and history is filled with the marvelous
things these gods have done.

Lol. So it turns out you have made zero sense.


Compared to a dog, you are definite of what you can get out of your dog. No confusion. I won't give credit to my dog for something it did not do. If my dog is useless, it is useless, no pretense.
But fear of the unknown has made men give god glory for fear of this god getting angry or jealous.

You shot yourself in the foot as usual as your thread initially seeks for people to tell you what their communion with God has yielded. Now you have gone ahead to list the many things communion with God achieves, then pout like a kid "I don't believe". Of course, are you not an UNBELIEVER?
BTW, i don't laugh at greek or roman or any gods being real, some are.

MZLady39:
Sir,
If I'm interpreting your comment correctly, I agree with you. Oprah has promoted New Age theology for a very long time. She is being deceptive.
She also has a new "fictional church drama" on her network which she will say anything in order to promote.
There is no evidence that Oprah is a Christian, nor that she has returned to Christ since she left Him when she was young. I pray she returns.

You're correct my sister. She's not a christian, but promotes New Age like you've noticed. A subtle and desirable counterfeit of the original, denying the cross of Christ and the God Christ Himself.

analice107:
Seun is just disappointed that Opra is not an atheist. He can't handle what ahe said there.

Poor sad guys.

Yeah he's disappointed, I am worried. Worried because she was talking New Age. Sounds like christianity a lot but it's not.

akintom:
You meant to say that the process of making constitution, requires communion and communication with God?

Nope, follow the conversation can you? If you struggle to follow/comprehend basic conversation between YOU and i in less than a page, 24hours, most likely you'd struggle with 66books.
I said "Constitution was founded on communion and communication with God". To which you asked "How about moral sense?" And i replied that it is part of the process. Moral sense is a part of the process involved in making constitution and laws usually.

Fayose is so full of himself and egocentric, see as he use his picture as wallpaper everywhere. Nebuchadnezzar v0.00012.
And why does that meeting place look like some 'upcoming'church around my street. No real development going on in Ekiti. Governance is not just about opposition and talkativeness.

hopefulLandlord:
I hear this a lot

even many deluded Christians in the USA usually go "But the Founding Fathers were Christians who based our Constitution on Judeo-Christian values!"

I guess that's why these assembled geniuses forgot to mention Abraham or Jesus in the entire document, or why good old Ben Franklin told Jefferson to write "self-evident" instead of "sacred."

Good to note that you hear it a lot,consider that there may be some sense in it. People mention Jesus, God and Abraham without being Christian or godly. Start thinking.

akintom:
which process?

The process of making the Constitution, what else?

akintom:
"Constitution was founded on communion and communication with God"
How about moral sense?

It's part of the process.

HardMirror:
I am sure you would also claim to be one of those who can talk to God and hear God. Lol

Give me a list of practical problems God has helped you solve when he talks to you. That is besides God revealing enemies of your destiny to you (cos that is the only revelations you people always have from God)

Even the most basic discoveries have been attributed to God's inspiration by the 'discoverers'. The technology of fire, airplanes, engines, medical cures have all had the core inventors giving God the glory. Your rants remain eternally irrelevant compared to what has been seen and read. Run along to confuse young minds that fail to think and lack exposure.