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refiner:
In Romans 9 vs 16...so then it is not of him that willeth,nor of him that runneth,but of God that sheweth mercy.

That means God is selective of whom to show mercy to,why that?...are we not all his creatures?...we can see this in the case of jacob and esau...he showed mercy to jacob unlike esau...

Peter and judas iscariot...peter was showed mercy but judas was doomed to die...

Saul and david....

And lots of biblical cases...

Not everyone will receive the mercy of God...some are doomed to die no matter how many years spent on the earth...God spares only those he wish to and destroy others...

Little wonders why someone will commit a particular sin,will go scot free but someone else that commit that same sin might die.....

So doesnt it mean that God is a partial God?...state your opinion without insults...

Rom 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I
will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will
have compassion.
The Bible is like a treasure, and the thing about treasures is that
they are not often at the surface. You need to search, you
need to dig and mine. You may need to refine. So is it with the
Word of God. You look for the treasure in it, you look for how
it is going to benefit you, because it was sent to benefit you.
Perseverance and persistence is the key to success. Notice how
the writer to the Romans quotes copiously from the Old
Testament and specifically here from Moses to prove what he
is saying. It is not rare to see people today look at you as
unserious and legalistic when you quote from the Old
testament to teach some things. The apostles never saw the
Old Testament scriptures as useless or obsolete. Infact, their
noble hearers searched the Old Testament to confirm what the
apostles were saying. So, we see Paul here also quoting Moses
to teach New Testament Roman believers. He saith to Moses.
And it still applies till tomorrow. What He says in this instance
is " I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have
compassion on whom I will have compassion. "
Surprisingly, what many people just do here is close the book
and let's go home. No hope. Let's hope we are among those
that God has mercy on. Why not find out, who are those that
God will have mercy on? Is there anything that can be done to
obtain God's mercy? Any criteria for who God will have mercy
on? If God does not appear to have mercy on you, any hope?
All these questions are supposed to be asked instead of giving
up on God so cheaply as many often do.
The writer is still hitting home on God's Sovereignty, that at the
end of it all, it is God on the top. You may say you found God,
but ultimately god found you. You may say you drew nearer
to God like James said to, but ultimately it was God that drew
you. You may say God dwells in an unapproachable light, but
ultimately God is not far from all of us. And so on and forth.
All these sayings and ultimates are all found in scripture, But
let God be all in all, giving God all the glory, and God being true
and everyman a liar. So, god will have mercy on whom He will
have mercy. Here are some scriptures that show us people
that can receive God's mercy.
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous
man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he
will have mercy upon him ; and to our God, for he will
abundantly pardon.
Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso
confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
God will have mercy on who He will have mercy. This three
scriptures show us some of them. Time and space would fail
me to mention more for now. Now, is it possible to not have
God's mercy before and later have it? Yes. Remember the story
of Jonah and the people of Nineveh. Also, consider this new
testament passage.
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the
people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have
obtained mercy.
Mercy there was great, and grace was free,
Pardon there was multiplied to me,
There my burdened soul found liberty,
AT CALVARY
Rom 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him
that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy.
Rom 9:17 For the Scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this
same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might show my
power in thee, and that my name might be declared
throughout all the earth.
Rom 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have
mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
It is not of your running but ultimately, it is God that shows
mercy. Where would we be without His mercy. It is not by
power or by might but by God's Spirit. Even the youths shall
faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall, but
they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength. Are
these scriptures calling us to inaction or fate? No. You still
need to read for that exam, prepare for that interview, plan that
project, keep that body fit etc. But God takes the ultimate
glory. Why is then, we come to this passage, and we lose all
other knowledge of God and His ways? We still need to believe
and confess and follow. Don't just sit in sin and darkness and
say it is not of him that willeth. Get up anf fight the good fight
of faith, do ALL to stand and stand therfore, putting on the
WHOLE armour of God.
Jesus said it is God that draws, but the same Jesus promised to
draw all men. Are His promises not all yea and Amen?
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all
men unto me.
Has He been lifted up? Yes
Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,
even so must the Son of man be lifted up :
Joh 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up
the Son of man , then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do
nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak
these things.
He has drawn all men. no one has an excuse of i was not
drawn. If you feel you have not been drawn, then draw
yourself.
Jam 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you.
Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye
double minded.
He will draw nigh to you, that is the promise for you.
Now, to pharaoh. The Scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for
this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might show my
power in thee, and that my name might be declared
throughout all the earth. The scripture! Genesis is scripture, so
also is Exodus. here is paul quoting from Exodus to establish
verse 18's THEREFORE. What is wrong with what God said to
pharaoh? Nothing. The same statement can be said of
anybody. "Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up,
that I might show my power in thee, and that my name might
be declared throughout all the earth." God wants us to be used
to show His power and glory, and that His name may be
declared in all the earth. However, however, there is a law of
sowing and reaping on ground. You reap what you sow.
Gala 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a
man soweth, that shall he also reap.
If you sow hardness of heart, don't be surprised if God gives
you a hardened heart. Pharaoh could repent if he wanted to,
as was seen in this scripture,
Exo 9:27 And Pharaoh sent, and called for Moses and Aaron,
and said unto them, I have sinned this time: the LORD is
righteous, and I and my people are wicked.
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. Do you also know that
Pharaoh hardened his own heart too?
1Sa 6:6 Wherefore then do ye harden your hearts, as the
Egyptians and Pharaoh hardened their hearts? when he had
wrought wonderfully among them, did they not let the people
go, and they departed?
Exo 9:34 And when Pharaoh saw that the rain and the hail and
the thunders were ceased, he sinned yet more, and hardened
his heart , he and his servants.
God knows our hearts too like He knew Pharaoh's and knew
the Israelites. While it is called today, harden not your heart.
Deu 31:21 And it shall come to pass, when many evils and
troubles are befallen them, that this song shall testify against
them as a witness; for it shall not be forgotten out of the
mouths of their seed: for I know their imagination which they
go about, even now, before I have brought them into the land
which I swore.

Dmacaw:
Are you hallucinating or in an alcohol induced trance? See through dress? I fear who no fear you.

Good for you, it's a suggestive dress nonetheless.

Pastafarian:
tell us if you're the one
if you don't wanna tell us, why attend to the thread at all

To remind you that you don't want to hear what you don't want to hear.

Pastafarian:
Image123 , that explains why we don't want you to tell us about someone you know that got healed

we want the ex-lame person to come here his/herself and tell us

And if i told you i was the one, you still would not believe. i owe you nada.

^ If i told you, you would not believe, as an unbeliever. duh

It was only the pastor's wife that wore suggestive see-through dress, due to her understanding of dis'grace. The ogbonis and chief sinners dressed more appropriate.

This must be the Chief wailer.

Papa you are too much, is that one church? Dis'grace to the Body of Christ.

ScienceWatch:
Yes the jokers are the FAKE pastors that can only give their innocent congregations MOTIVATIONAL SPEECHES about Jesus' healing, deliverance and material blessing. But these FAKE pastors have no POWER to demonstrate what they are talking about.

INCREDIBLE[/b] ! Over 250 million followers world-wide of the Holy Scoan church Nigeria, confirm that the Miracle healing, deliverance and mind-blowing blessings are very real.

The fact that millions of honest people of all walks of life are brave enough to stand up in public and proclaim that the mighty Jesus heals, delivers and blesses through the Holy Prophet TB Joshua is enough to shame the hateful doubters.

These Satanic persons respond with hate, envy and jealousy just like the Jews did when Gods great love was practically demonstrated through miracle healing, evil spirit deliverance and material blessing.

Their Satanic inspired hatred, envy and jealousy propel them to falsify the true meanings of Holy scriptures to deceive the masses and even the chosen ones. They find no joy in hearing millions of personal testimonies of mind-blowing instant healings etc.

These Satanic inspired persons resent the millions that are miraculously healed, while they suffer at the hands of doctors and man-made medications with deadly bonus diseases/ side-effects etc.

When the mighty Jesus heals using the hands of the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, why not shut-up and humble yourselves to learn what God is doing.

It is the will of God that we experience His mighty miraculous POWER !

It is said about the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, that He is anointed beyond modern understanding. word says: greater miracles that Jesus commanded of all Chosen Pastors – inspiring different opinions about him, some call Him the younger brother of Jesus, others say he’s the Elijah of our Generation.

Still others say He is the continuation of Jesus Christ – But the common thread that runs through all these opinions is the reference to Him as a certain unique being of celestial nature.

But is there any truth in these claims?, are there enough proofs?

Scripture itself and the millions of world-wide personal testimonies of mind-blowing scientifically verifiable results speak for itself.

Who really is the Holy Prophet TB Joshua?

The Truth is, nobody can authoritatively describe how TB Joshua’s journey on earth began or how it will end, neither can any human being actually comprehend TB Joshua’s autobiography or his mission on earth. Most human minds are too afraid of the shame the truth will reveal. This TRUTH will shame them. As a result, they fear other people more than God.

Stop joking, this is not joke section. "250 million followers world-wide of the
Holy Scoan church"

spartan117:
What about u who is ur scandal?

If you meant standard, Jesus is my standard and should be yours and everyone's. It doesn't justify a person going into adultery.

spartan117:
Are u without sin?

i supposed Jesus was the standard for the apostle to follow? Are we missing something?

petra1:
That's not correct . He's one of the ministers that have strong stand on morality and virtue as part of ministerial ethiques . He even host a popular annual ministerial interdenominational conference called "MINISTERS WITHOUT BLEMISH". In one of the conferences that I watched . He was very furious against ministers traveling for Programes with female secretaries saying. "IS SHE YOUR WIFE? ..

It's obvious that the scandal was a set up . Even if he fell short at all in the set up . It's still a set up .ive monitored his programmed for years . I never saw any compromise tendency not to talk of him being a predator .

Preaching can easily be a different ballgame as it were and you ought to know this as a preacher. There's the common saying practice what you preach. One can preach fiery about something and even be all passionate and emotional. That's different from the lifestyle. Separation of theology and lifestyle.

see below
Romans 2:21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal? 2:22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege? 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God? 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.

OLAADEGBU:
Sunday Adelaja's Take On Apostle Suleiman's "Scandal"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUZMvoREmzU

In this videoclip, a question was asked of Sunday Adelaja that What was his say on Apostle Suleiman's "scandal" in Nigeria and would it be right for him to step down if he is found guilty of the allegations?

Pastor Adelaja responded by saying that "We have to remove the notion of perfection of "Men of God," we have to throw it in the garbage. There is no one man of God that is perfect...., you will never find any man like that, there is no one, no individual on earth that is without sin" Pastor Sunday Adelaja went on to say that "For me nothing changes."

You can listen to the rest of his answer in the videoclip above.

Do you agree with him that no "Man of God" is expected to be morally perfect?

Pastor Sunday Adelaja was just beating about the bush here, something people do when they don't want to say something bad or say someone is wrong. But he is wrong, what is wrong is wrong. Sin is sin and it is wrong wherever you find it. Making excuses don't cut it. The christian is a Christian everywhere and everytime. It's not some kind of clothes you put on when going to church. So him rationalising that humans have many aspects is simple rubbish. Humans may condone and excuse sin, God doesn't. Ask Adam and Eve, or David.

The accuser preaching to the apostle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tr7lOJis3o

What would they have done to Mary Magdalene who had seven devils? Very devilish people possessed by devil himself.

sarrki:
Both are fraudsters

Still one would expect the apostle to be the one attempting to clear up issues, not the politician.

In the last couple of weeks , no doubt we have been inundated and probably entertained by the fiasco of the external affairs of a popular man of God, and the educational affairs of a popular Senator. i must say ahead that i am not a fan of any of the parties mentioned and involved, and in my own personal opinion, they are all on the way to perdition. Well, that's just my personal opinion, right? One thing that links all these fellows is the fact that they know the way to the court, have all placed suits/cases in court this month, and probably the fact that they are also linked with sahara reporters(lol).
My bone of contention and my surprise though has been the ways in which the matters have been handled. Over here in Nigeria, politicians simply do not care or send what is said of them. Most of them are annually accused of lying, stealing, corruption, rituals, and even murder. The unison answer has been some form of orchestrated silence and "I don't care", and time usually waves away the force of the assertions and accusations. But I was taken aback with the efforts, mediums and speed with which Senator Dino Melaye of Kogi State has gone to defend his academic qualifications these past few weeks. Here I am thinking it is the apostle that would bother or should care to make all the effort. While i am not in any way letting the Senator off the hook or saying he is innocent or guilty of the accusations. i am nonetheless impresses with his efforts at saving face and proving his accusers wrong and himself right. The Senate even had a ethics committee to look into it. They called on the Vice Chancellor to verify things. The Senator posted serving photos, explained and tweeted to the world of the year and set of his graduation, where he served etc. We even have his NYSC certificate as it were, and he comically addressed himself and wore convocation gown as mr authentic graduate. His videos are on youtube, twitter, facebook, instagram, everywhere. And then his colleagues from school came to his aid. Whether he is lying or not is another subject on his own but you cannot question the effort at integrity and name clearing.
On the other side is the apostle drama and the near mafia way in which his accusations have been handled. From the little i know from Bible, you either clear your name or let God do it for you as it were. In this case, the apostle has neither made any effort to clear his name or God's name or allowed/wait for God to do it.
Rom 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.

All we have heard from the apostle asides his going to court have been a lot of threatenings and name callings. He's got the lady arrested, he's called her a terrorist, a blackmailer, ugly, he's even done a music video. i thought he would at least learn to make some effort to clear up things instead of muddling up issues. It would not remove anything from him if he disproved the accusations by showing his travel itinerary or his passport pages with dates, or some sort of alibi. The Bible apostle Paul sought to live in good conscience in the sight of all men. His defense against false accusations made on him are strewn all over parts of the Acts of the Apostles and some of his epistles.

euromilion:
This woman makes my blood boil,did she not know that the pastor was married before jumping into bed with him?what exactly does she want?.

I see nothing but an attention seeker.

Why is your blood boiling like the pharisees that condemned the adulteress in John8 and left the adulterer? Why did the apostle have her arrested in the first instance? Why did he send money to her account?

chrisav:
Always be mindful of how you speak about other people.
watch the video where the apostle forgave her. He did say but that would not stop the law from doing the needful.

So he is the law? Is it not when you bring case to court that they will judge? Same way he lied about never talking about the lady when that's being the talking point of his 'sermons' all month.

Vanpascore:
But i tot he said he had forgiven her

Are you minding the lying apostle? He lied to his wife and congregation. It's not hard for him to lie to his girlfriend's mother.

jumobi1:
kogi had a right to protest and petition. He should have replaced Ocholi as swiftly as he replaced Mohammed.

It removes nothing from Kogi state and it's progress. Goes to show that we can live and work in peace without heating things up emotionally and probably getting people dead and incarcerated due to impatient protests.

Imagine the petition, protest and propaganda that would have been if Kogi state was in the East.

[quote author=hahn post=54991812][/quote]Be critical, be rational. Do you observe naked lower animals with glee and excitement? Do you go gaga at the sight of mannequins at boutiques? How then should the Sculptor, Potter and Creator be viewed with such unthinking malice? Find your mind, you need it.

Boring and lacking in thought. It takes a lot of faith to believe all that rubbish about evolving from monkeys and order from some big bang.

What's the point of praying like Jesus and not believing in Jesus or accepting Him as your Lord and personal Saviour again? Pointless.

Lol, the reporter literally trolled and harassed the senator. If he was black skinned, he would have been manhandled and probably whisked away, so many racist black people.

I'm actually feeling pity for the family.

See as Fashola smile change compared to being with Fayose the buka man gov. Hope all this picture and publicity nonsense would not cost 100million naira under ministry of works miscellaneous news update blah blah blah blah.

Fayose doesn't know the difference between governance and politics, has no idea what good governance is. See as Fashola was just staring at him like that. So he thinks fg helping him is what governance is. How much so called help are performing states and governors receiving? You just received millions of dollars from Paris debt and went to share rice and 200naira. Money can can build a world class higher institution school or hospital or factory.

Delusion defined.

rubbish. Na human being be your god, too bad.

Zack44:
I have been a christian my whole life but I haven't been able to answer some questions that is seriously affecting my faith. Pls I need. I need answers to these questions.

1. Would a loving father allow his children to burn in hell for eternity because they led a bad life for 75 years (average life expectancy of human beings)?

2. If God knows the future, doesn't it presuppose that He knows whether we will sin or not. Why then will he punish us in hell for what He already knows we will do.

3.If God wanted humans to live in Heaven, why then does He allow us to live on earth?

1. They're not His children and don't want to go to Heaven anyway.
2. Knowledge is not influence. I know you're going to write an exam doesn't mean I influence the results.
3. Because they are earthlings who Win the prize of Heaven. If the university wants graduates, why set exams or even classes, just convocate and let's go already, right? Yeah