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HardMirror:
Constitutions are not based on communications with God, but leaders being wise use the fear of "god" to make people believe a supreme being is behind the laid out rules.
I am sure the constitutional gay rights of gays in many countries are also from god. Or the constitutional rights to owe slaves in the past were also from god.
Use your head, you are not thinking at all.

So people actually have access to God; they can talk to God and God reply them? Lol I wonder what over 1billion christians have been discussing with God and yet not one of you have been told relevant things such as the cure for cancer or HIV. Or where the chibok girls are.
Imagine the endless knowledge God could provide. Yet you guys have no answer to the problems humanity is facing. Even tb joshua could not tell his building would collapse.

Use ur head

i mentioned "rooted" which implies foundational. I didn't state or imply that God dictates the constitution of any country. What i said and repeat is that the constitution of most nations were founded on some people's communion and communication with God. This is indisputable history looking at the lifes of several founding fathers and presidents of the United States. If you claim it's alleged, that's different, and i expect that line from any skeptic. But showing total ignorance is amusing though expected of your moniker.

HardMirror:
Comparing your God to dogs is an insult to dogs honestly. You just can't compare the 2. Dogs are practical, they are useful. Even if it means killing and eating the dog, it is more useful than most of this Gods would ever be.
I stopped lying to myself long time ago. God does not talk to man, it is our imagination. Else we would have access to so many mysteries. Everyone is confused and we have to rely on science to show us the way. Man's hope of ever curing cancer is not with God but in the hands of medical researchers.

i referred to your excuse that you should talk rudely because theists talk rudely of others. Learn to stick to issues, i didn't ask for all these your headache that you have listed. Learn to be civil and courteous in discussion with others instead of making rude people your role model.

HardMirror:
Hehehehe
So you commune with God?
Lol
Pls help us ask God what the cure for cancer, AIDS, Lassa, Ebola and others are.

You all claiming to be able to communicate with God, what practical, realistic and beneficial information have you been able to obtain from God so far?

Oh, oh oh, I know, God has been able to reveal one old aunt in the village as the one hindering your progress in life. Lol.

Communicate with God and yet you don't have any special knowledge. God ko dog ni.
Comparing your god to a dog is even an insult to dogs.
Communicating with dogs has done more for mankind that your supposed communication with God.
Communication with dogs has helped many blind people with specially trained dogs called "seeing dogs"
Has helped in search and rescue (SAR dogs)
Narcotic detection (sniffer dogs)
Bomb detection (sniffer dogs)
Post traumatic disorder treatment
Cancer detection
Security
Etc.
While communication with god has
Lead to wars
Created psychos such as Shekau, osama bin laden
Created 419s such as TB joshua, Oyedepo
Lead many to reject medical report and believe the report of God till they died of terminal illnesses in "faith"

Abeg park well.

This is as dumb as saying cellphones are more useful than humans, or water is more important than fire. It's a foolish argument to make as all have their uses. Your civilization and constitution are firmly rooted in communication with God.

HardMirror:
TESTIMONY
I have been in Imo state for about 2weeks now and been lodging in an hotel.
Guess what?
Without asking, without giving anything, just like that, the Manager came to my room and told me I should stop paying. I should stay as long as I want without paying anything. Wow!

This is prove good things happen to everyone.

The hotel owner is a christian, yet we both laughed at his receptionist who kept talking about the "special" program evangelist Chidi Ibenado held yesterday (friday).
So what made me enjoy such favor? Don't forget this could be a testimony to a christian that would make everyone jump on their feet and shout hallelujah.

Good things happen to everyone and anyone, same with misfortunes.


Use your head

Full gist on my stay here in Ihiagwa, Imo state coming soon and the pastorpreneurs here coming soon.

Schoolboy error, remember this.

Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Seun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SskrmHCoiRc
With all due respect, ma'am, your worldview should be firmly rooted in reality. And frankly, I think it is. Your followers deserve the real truth.

Very worrisome ideology, it's like a fake currency that looks so much like the original. The New Age is disturbingly deceitful.

HardMirror:
So sorry bro. I know I am being blunt, but any honest person knows what I posted up there is nothing but the truth.

You christians should just shut the fvck up. You insult traditional worshipers, but not feeling hurt that I am comparing your god to dogs. Don't you ridicule, sango, oya, ogun, zeus, shiva and the rest?

Now back to the OP, what is the usefulness of your communications with god. So you have ability to talk to god and you can hear god, yet you folks never use this ability to solve problems humanity is facing?

Lol.
You are shameless.

This trite statement of yours is stale. While normal people may consider gods to be nothing. They don't go around rubbing it in the face of worshippers. Personal opinion is different from direct irreverence and lack of manners. You should learn some courtesy and civilization in your discussion.

CuteMorriz:
Dear friend, if believing and wanting to give up the ghost for the love of Biafra, I will glady do it my dear. It is not a waste of life, it is a struggle a movement that MUST be achieved! I am not dreaming of utopia but I don't want my children to grow up in a country where quota system and marginalisation is the mother of the day. Where nepotism and ethnic bigotry reigns. Where the constitution is written to favour and despise some. I want to be from mental slavery...if my love for Biafra is your definition of misled...you need another word...there is nothing meaningful in life when you know you are living in slavery...Viva Biafra

The ibos have not proven themselves better than other tribes. They're equally given to nepotism, marginalisation, selfish interest and iTK. They are also the definition of "over my dead body" unforgiving spirit. Nothing wrong with loving one's tribe or people or nationality. Your misguided and misled position is in your emotionalism driven by propaganda to the extent of wanting violence and useless waste of life. Life is not as complicated as you have been indoctrinated to think.

CuteMorriz:
What is life without purpose? What is life without fighting for what you believe in? I believe in Biafra and I am ready to pay the ultimate price for her. I have attended several rallies in onitsha. We have been beaten, shot at killed, but we are not deterred. We are not broken. We are not scared. We don't believe in Nigeria...we want out. Your President said "over his dead body"....but I tell you my dear Biafra shall be free! Even if Kanu dies, his sons will read about his struggles so will mine (when I get married) my love for Biafra is beyond death. And I am ready to pay the price if that is the cost...Viva Biafra...

You are an unfortunately misled young mind. You don't have to waste your life, be reasonable not emotional. There are a thousand and one good and better things to live for, without violence and agitation. Splitting the country is not a guarantee of paradise like you think

CuteMorriz:
To everything there is "time"...there is nothing like a glorious death! Or a foolish death!...death is death...I am not free. I don't have a country! I am suppressed. I have a perception of what a country should look like. The Nigerian forces is keeping us down. I have read some rumours that the North and West wants to concede the president to the East (they have a puppet already) but that is not my agitation. I want REFERENDUM....let all Igbo speaking tribe vote to either stay or go...Free Biafra!...1,000,000...died....we have over 30 million to go...

You seem to make reference to the Bible by saying to everything there is time. Actually the same Bible talks about glorious death and dying foolishly. Don't kill yourself or die before your time. If you tell your mind that you are not free, then unfortunately you are not. However you can't compare your illusions to the reality of Nnamdi's incarceration at Kuje. If 1million people died like you claim, over 30million should be wise enough in this age to know that the world is a small town and life can be lived in wisdom.

CatfishBilly:
Is it not the same Bible that sad that heaven and earth shall pass away but his word won't fail or something along that line?
These my patients held to the word and it failed them.
Like I've said on this thread countless times, I'm yet to see prayers save ONE patient on the hospital bed at the point of death.

His word is about 66books, not just one verse or one chapter. It's like using an hour of meeting someone to judge all his life forever. Even at work, the best employee this year might not be the best in 20years even if he's still working there. Nobody holds on rigidly to the persons last year heroics. Same thing our friends, we know each other more with time. A person who knows God well wouldn't jettison, ignore or overlook over 60books and try to blackmail to some verse. Context and content are important. That you've never seen something don't mean it doesn't exist.

CatfishBilly:
I for one think the human body is a magnificent piece of art. It's incredible. How it was designed, all the different failsafe mechanisms that prevent disaster from happening, it's incredible. All that couldn't have come about by accident. Your family member got an explanation and is satisfied with it. I'm not satisfied with my own explanation, I want to know more.

Good, there's definitely a creator for you, just that you do not know Who.

But the Bible says ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find, knock and the door will be opened to you.
It also said that asking with faith as little as a mustard seed, we'll get what we asked for. That was what my patients up there did and they were failed. So is it that God who promised to answer their prayers intentionally didn't answer or he doesn't exist at all?

The Bible is not one verse or one chapter. It is made up of about 66books and not to be read/understood in isolation. The same Bible records believers who were sick and did not receive healing or instant miracle. If God for whatever reason did not answer your prayers, well He is God, not a machine or a genie or yesman or slave. People testify in churches across the world every other week about how God answered them.

CuteMorriz:
It is the fate of all MEN to DIE...dying for Biafra's sake will be my utmost pleasure!....I have got no time for threats...I am only waiting for that fateful day when we will be free either by the GUNS or by the BOOKS

Then don't die foolishly. Nobody kept you in bondage, Nnamdi is in bondage, he cannot post like you are doing on NL. He cannot even buy recharge card or suya. He survives on beans paid for through tax that people like me pay.

InsanePsycho:
Lol.

Your god already filled the toilet up so there is no room to put any more waste

Your god is responsible because it knew. Since it knew then it is responsible. Continue using human analogies to defend your almighty god

You are only succeeding at making it petty

You are rambling on wild assumptions. Why are you using human language to talk about God but complaining about me using 'human' analogy to explain to you? Is it a sin in your atheistic religion? You don't seem to know what is doing you. Say what you can defend instead of all these presumptions and redherrings you fly with.

CuteMorriz:
Even if kanu spends 80yrs in prison it doesn't matter...we will continue to fight....until freedom comes

Make sure you don't fight like Nnamdi with bigotry, hatred, calumny and threatening.

InsanePsycho:
And what will you refer to the creation of the devil as, a factory defect or car accident

And you seem not to realize your ridiculous defense does not put into consideration that the manufacturers of the car do not claim to be all knowing and all blah blah blah so by comparing them to your god and it's mistakes, you have only succeeded in proving it's incompetence better than I would have.

Thanks for that

Your god KNEW devil will Bleep up and all the things that happened will happen BEFORE creating it. Remember everything is it's will so that means people burning in hell are also it's will. It means whatever the devil does is god's will. Hallelujah

Trust me, you are much more safer going with the theory that your god doesn't exist

Of course the accident, don't you think? The point of the accident analogy was that producers/manufacturers/creators have fine print clauses. They are not responsible for third party use of what they produced. When you add dangote cement into your food, it's not dangotes fault. When you ram your Uncle's car into the fence, it's not Honda or BMW to blame. God is not responsible for your actions or that of your dad. The rest of your red herrings, you can keep in the toilet flush.

OoniOfIfe:
That wall was there before Jesus came and died in the Middle East, Jesus didn't even try to visit China and preach His Father to them



CHINA IS REALLY THE CENTRE OF THE WORLD
but I hate Chinese

And where did your own dead god visit? Who made you the judge of best place to visit?

Buharimustgo:
Buhari is receiving the Pharo treatment from God, continue to hold him let's see if u will know peace in ur personal life

Don't be ridiculous, Buhari is over 70years old. An old person is more feeble and prone to sickness than a young person. It has nothing to do with religion or Nnamdi. Nnamdi would spend New Year Eve still rightly in prison.

InsanePsycho:
Bros, so you are now comparing your all perfect to god Toyota manufacturers?

Didn't iPhone and Samsung recall their exploding phones?

Good boy, you dropped the first nonsense and concentrated on the second irrelevance. Illustrations are made to help easier understanding, not to compare. Did you do Olevels at all? Car accidents are different from factory defects.

InsanePsycho:
Lol. You obviously do not read the bible

Can you mention one thing that the devil did that is as evil as when god destroyed the whole world in a flood or when it burnt women and children in Sodom and Gomorrah while it did nothing when Lot had a party with his daughters?

Also, can you tell us how come god is not responsible for whatever the devil does since it created the devil with beforehand knowledge that it would rebel against it and it would need to cast it to earth and it would deceive Eve thereby necessitating the construction of a place of eternal torture and torment

Duh, the question is who IS more evil, not who WAS more evil,. You happen to be stuck in the past, come out in Jesus name Amen.
Your second question holds a lot of fallacy and ignorant assumption. Anyway, Toyota is not responsible for the Toyota car accident that happened this morning. You may gullibly ask how that is possible, i'll tell you.

InsanePsycho:
Why is it the devil?

Rather why is it God? Why do you think it is God? Obviously, you based your assumptions on what you think you read from the Bible not minding it's veracity to spite your nose. i took my point from the same Bible which states that the devil is the one who steals, kills and destroys. No contest really.

Shame, one of our former minister of aviation.

Rilwayne001:
One more thing: is there any significance in his name? Was he the first person to answer that name "Jesus"?

He's not the first person to answer that name of course. Joshua already did. What does it matter who first answered a name or who owns and demonstrates the name? i'm glad to see that you agree that Jesus was born of a virgin, that's a good step.

InsanePsycho:
The point is, if the devil is evil did god create it knowing it would eventually become evil? yes or no?

Actually, the point is about who is more evil in God or the devil, The answer is the devil.

randomperson:
God said so?? How do u know he's not lying. The evidence we have shows god is much more wicked than the devil. Your own bible shows that

Same way i know you are clueless, by reading what is said. Again, how you know it's not done by the devil?

Stlawr:
Thanks for your time but you have not actually said anything.. How do we know the Original? Because I see fruit everywhere

You seem like the one that "thought is only by the name of Jesus that demons can be cast away". The explanation for the different upcoming artistes are what i have given, fakes copy the original.

Rilwayne001:
By faith, yes. Any other thing?

Good, that's who Jesus is.

johnydon22:
I am sure there have been many of such but not in a grand scale...

I have being invited to such a debate and i debated that night, enjoyed every bit of it...

Anyway I'm game when ever theists and atheists here decide to organize a live debate...

Lol, that would be a mini crusade, would love it, the Spirit doesn't disappoint. Why do you look like you want to fight in the first picture. Why are atheists violence prone and always having rising bp when they meet their superiors?

Rilwayne001:

Born of a virgin. Do you believe that?

So many people have cried emotionally and gone to a hopeless eternity. Many Indian films bring tears to the eyes. What we need is genuine repentance and eternal life, living a righteous and ready life.

remainhidden:
Thanks hun have you been in such a situation?

A Christian's example should be Jesus, not Rehab. What would Jesus do?

remainhidden:
I was reading through my bible in Joshua 2 vs 1 upward
The king sent someone to find the spies hiding at Rahab house.
But instead she lied about their where about when instead she hiding them in the roof..

question is What she did , was it right or wrong for her actions?
She lied to safeguard them..
But bible said we shouldn't lie
rather she was saved at the end for just the action she took

Was she saved for lying?

InsanePsycho:
But god created the devil knowing fully well it will eventually become evil. Yes or no?

Are you saying that on assumption? i don't know. The point of discussion was who is more evil, not creation or foreknowledge.