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Danfuster:Run along, you'd lose some weight. |
Danfuster:i don't care, not because i'm pompous but because your tribe or my tribe,religion or political parties have nothing to do with the discussion. You're telling me your tribe to prove/show you have no bias, yet your next and quoted post proves the opposite. You've not proffered any solution for two reasons. One, ranches are captured already under the bill. Two, your grouse with the grazing routes is not removed with ranches. Ranches can be in ANY part of the country as well. There's something wrong with violence, violent behavior and words,nobody disagreed on that. How you come to such a shallow conclusion that i don't see anything wrong leaves much to be desired. By the way, the President is not an herdsman. i specifically referred to herdsmen, not to tribes or geopolitical zones. Use and apply your education please. Awkward lazy stereotyping of people isn't a show of intelligence but an indication of lack of exposure and poverty. |
P0intBlank:i clearly remember the Presidency's reactions to the events on the news then and on social media like Twitter and Facebook where Shehu and co engages. Using Google now though, could come up with one or two links. “We will act immediately. “We will conduct an investigation to know exactly what happened. The only way to bring an end to the violence once and for all is to look beyond one incident and ascertain exactly what factors are behind the conflicts,” he said. President Buhari stressed that all Nigerians must learn to live together as one, in peace and unity. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/02/agatu-killings-buhari-expresses-shock-orders-investigation/ It's after this that both police and military have been deployed to site and several arrests made. Note the facts of denials too from the herdsmen. The herdsmen say it's not them but cattle rustlers etc. Its certainly not an act of impunity against the government or community like the case of boko haram or pipeline vandals or those Shite boys or Nnamdi Kanu. Why they should be treated like boko haram is sentimental, let's be practical and reasonable. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/03/army-deploy-troops-flash-points-end-killings-agatu-2/ http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/200736-agatu-killings-police-ig-deploys-officers-govt-sets-dialogue-abuja.html http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/03/we-have-deployed-enough-officers-to-end-agatu-crisis-ig/ Even last year before election, these same thing happened. We heard Buhari condemn it,we didn't hear GEJ who would rather look for votes than alienate himself. http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/178572-buhari-condemns-benue-killings.html Are you sure you read the bill or you're talking based on hearsay? Use Google to download a copy. http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://nass.gov.ng/document/download/879&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiIvt2UmaLMAhXCIsAKHSLiCpAQFggWMAQ&usg=AFQjCNE2kVtqnPGk1Cshx7bEN50cy4Ufeg |
P0intBlank:Yes i did. What is the definition of a strong worded statement and why does it have to come from Buhari? He's already talked about and against it BTW. i don't think these people are on Nairaland or Twitter, neither do they gather to watch news. |
Danfuster:i don't care if you are from heaven or planet mars, i just need us to discuss intelligently and constructively instead of cheap and baseless criticisms. Herdsmen are all over Nigeria, they have no place of their own and hardly need one. They are nomads. So its not of question of THEIR land, they have NO land, whether in the North or South. However, we all use their services as Nigerians. All those cows they love to lead, no be them get am. It is people like you and me mostly, doing business with it. Also, they have been going about their nomadic life all over the country for ages, it did not start last month. It is their reoccuring problem of grazing on people's property that we are trying to solve. i think the FG has proposed a good solution. Putting tribal paintings to criticize it does not help anyone or solve the problems. When they start doing landscaping and giving contracts for importing grass and maintaining grass, employing FG paid gardners and tax xollectors and whatever other jobs come out of the scheme, you will be among those praying and submitting CVs of known people. You would not say keep it in one part of Nigeria. SELFISH interest and shallow mindedness beclouds most of us thinking. |
dozai:Don't die yet. Read carefully and patiently instead. |
dozai:It's a National issue because it hurts the nation when these people begin to kill people and graze on other's farmlands all over the country. Your land is not been taken, it is been bought just like FG or State govt buys it if they need it for any other purpose. And your land may not even be affected BTW. When the land is acquired if there is need to(because govt also has land, it is where they need to buy that they will buy), it becomes Government property, not private business. When your land is bought and paid for by the government, it is no more yours. You can use the money as you please, don't give yourself headache about thew value government would use the land for. Abi they no go pay you? |
P0intBlank:i also hope that arrests and prosecutions continue of all unlawful people fomenting trouble in various parts of the country. You refer to knocking off feelings of entitlement by words? i do not think words are enough. They have been talking to these people for as long as i can remember. Even, i do not know how true the account is, but i heard that Buhari himself was involved in some dispute settling for them in Oyo State some years back. Anyone who knows these people know that they do not reason like us all and they are not learned. Some will even say that they behave and live like animals. You can't apply the same solutions to such people as you would apply to learned people. And of course you don't just go shooting them all or arresting them all. It's a live and let live situation, and the approach proposed by the FG is very good. Talk to them and ACT by provision of paths or grazing areas where they should use. These areas will be paid for, not snatched from anybody. It becomes Federal property and creates jobs of course. The herdsmen are easily monitored that way, and the line of defaulting is CLEARER. |
Sunnycliff:Is transportation necessarily a national business before government build roads? The proposed plan of having grazing areas brings form and order to the way cows and animals are herded up and down from roads to farmlands. It also givesd opportunity for government to register and tax these people, as it is sure that they will be paying dues for grazing. This also removes the issue of grazing on people's farmlands which has been a reoccuring issue. No part of the country is being skinned. In fact, if any part of the country is left out, they will be the ones crying about marginalisation and been left out. |
OLAADEGBU:Of course, even Jo agrees to that |
Joagbaje:Reprove is to convince, to tell a fault. If we have faults, the Holy Spirit should sure tell us if He would be telling sinners. The work of the Holy Spirit brings repentance and a change of life. |
Sunnycliff:Cattle rearers are everywhere, not only Borno state. I'm sure some parts of Borno state is also in the plan. |
youngeagle:How do you forget Dasuki, Badeh and Saraki? Are they foreigners? |
Sunnycliff:Many people do by proxy. Most of those cows are not owned by those boys,I'm sure you know that. Fishing is not causing problems, we need solution because there is problem. FG has presented its solution, we should present good or better solution instead of just castigating everything in the name of tribe, party and buhari. What's your better solution to the problem? |
iroc4eva:Calm down, the FG is not seizing lands but buying them. Government does that everytime when your land interfere with their business like roads, power lines, railway etc and now grazing land. Certainly government will collect monies for grazing, its revenue and planning. Turning it to tribal issues is uncalled for. |
P0intBlank:How do you knock off feelings of entitlement? I've been reading recently that armed and guilty herdsman are arrested, they're not all guilty by the way. They've been part of us since time immemorial and we've always known that they "love" their cows. So, what's the solution? |
Sunnycliff:Nothing wrong, exactly why it is being provided/planned for everywhere. If planned for only north, people will still complain about marginalisation etc. Every tribe eats them cows and they've been grazing everywhere since time immemorial. |
Sunnycliff:You're wrong, but it will be good to hear your solution too. It's easy to criticize anything and everything, what's your idea or plan of solution please. |
Goddex:Please, when was this last time you refer to? |
theV0ice:Not forgetting http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/05/okonjo-iweala-others-have-high-bp-over-economy/ http://www.bellanaija.com/2015/05/ngozi-okonjo-iweala-reportedly-says-managing-nigerias-economy-gives-her-high-blood-pressure/ "70 per cent of my staff have high blood pressure. This goes to show the amount of stress we go through. All three of us here (referring to herself, Minister of State, Bashir Yuguda; and Permanent Secretary of the ministry, Anastasia Daniel-Nwaobia ) have high blood pressure. Minister of State has High BP and you are on medication. Perm Sec has and I have. The amount of stress in the ministry is unbelievable. Many times we are in the office until 1 am, looking for ways, we want to push out money to make payment. Many people don’t know this. We now have a clinic so that people can go and check quickly up when they start having headache before someone collapses." |
crixtex:What happened to them? |
wiegraf:You were wrong in your thoughts and assumptions as you are in scriptural matters. So, do you doubt the global flood? Oga, you claim to be an adult but your comprehension skills are atrocious. Even a kindergartner would have noted I did not state thati did not say that you stated it, i said i saw it. Good to see. Old people believe the Bible, kids believe superman. What exactly does giving one jerks entail? Is this some sort of Freudian slip? However, I'll ignore this and not ask for clarification, as I'm something of an adult (even if more a manchild) and can reasonably deduce what you meant to say.....Good to note that we are communicating. Educated people in all spheres of life believe that there is God and actually believe the Bible, we are both agreed on that regardless of the excuses you may present. However, to your excuse, over 1000years ago, most of the 'educated' world didn't care if the world was a triangle or the shape of a goat. And even at that, this is likely incorrect. It's at best, 50/50.My backyard counts for reality you know? Teachers, professors, brilliant students, successful people, CEOs, top level managers, Drs etc that are theists, whether christian or otherwise. That's not just in my backyard but in every part of the world. BTW, people believe the Bible who are not christians or true followers of Christ. People read the Bible, quote the Bible, copy the Bible, learn from the Bible, respect and regard the Bible etc who are not necessarily christian. They don't take your comic series the same way despite their education and other success, these are people more successful and educated than you, i'm certain you know some of them and can recall some as you read this. That Jesus is the Son of God and that He died and rose again, there are many non-christians who believe this, and they are educated too. Expand your worldview, come out of that room you seclude yourself in. [/quote]i do not know him or care to. |
maupe:The group did nothing to help Buhari. Though they indeed spoke against the previous government, that was not any other party's doing or fault. It could equally help APGA, KOWA or JP. The PDP government was irresponsible to the Chibok issue and Boko haram generally, every sane person knew that. Even young Malala was the one that had to come all the way from Pakistan to tell GEJ that Chibok girls were missing. Is that in any way APC's problem? In less than a year, the current government has met with the BBOG group severally. Even the same yesterday, they sent FG representatives led by Minister Amina Mohammed to Chibok. The BBOG cannot be crying more than the bereaved or be expecting attention anytime they want it. they are not the only ones who are concerned about Chibok. Me sef go start my own group go to Aso Rock demanding for Chibok girls. Would it be unfair for them to deny me entrance? |
magicalx:In Jonathan's time, they were TEARGASSED. You can google it. Soldiers came and chase them away breaking chairs and bottles. Yesterday, it was female POLICE women. In less than a year, the current administration has received the BBOG group at least twice in the Aso Villa. Is not every time visitor comes to your house that you MUST open door. And as a matter of fact, Oga Buhari no dey house sef, they cannot expect yes every single time. |
ZuzuMan:No mind Oby oh. Oga Buhari no dey house. Osinbajo go Aisha book launch. Who she wan go meet for house? Na every time she dey open gate for visitor for her house? No be only military era, she go still remember Babylonian era. |
chukwudi44:What do you expect to be done for her? Why do you think she was used and dumped? Is she wrong to ask the FG irrespective of whatever party there, to visit the Chibok girls issue? Must we always wait for young Malala to help us? http://leadership.ng/news/378503/malala-ignited-nigerias-search-missing-chibok-girls http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28288819 |
dayowunmi:He did not say they should keep mum. He said they should not escalate or increase the tension. Don't worry, the federal government will come to your bedroom to make official statement or release. Do a simple gooogle check please instead of embarrassing your access to the internet. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/02/agatu-killings-buhari-expresses-shock-orders-investigation/ saharareporters.com/2016/02/29/buhari-demands-investigation-clashes-benue-state You were in space when Dolapo Osinbajo visited Agatu and some PDP people were saying that she came with presidential jet to give them 8bags or so of rice? |
Adaure4ever:What is the meaning of Federal Presence? What does it mean to have federal presence? |
anonimi:A government that is yet to spend 1year in power and yet to implement its own budget cannot reasonably be said to have failed. The past government was given its failure report card during the time of elections. Exercise some patience until such election times come before we mark scripts. A sensible teacher does not grade students who have just been 30minutes into a 2hr exam. Marking and grading is done at the end. |
AhmadMind:No, they should not exaggerate or make mountains out of molehills. |
naijaking1:es·ca·late [éskə làyt] (past and past participle es·ca·lat·ed, present participle es·ca·lat·ing, 3rd person present singular es·ca·lates) transitive and intransitive verb increase: to become or cause something to become greater, more serious, or more intense He is not blaming social media for reporting it. He is saying that social media is making it more serious, more intense than it really is. Social media is indeed causing unwarranted tribal bigotry and hatred. i have fulani herdsmen that pass where i currently stay every other day. If i were to go by social media, i would have waylaid them before they waylay me. But we actually relate even. They always been around for decades and we've always known that they love their cows more than human beings. It is not Buhari's fault or something APC started like social media is painting it. It is a problem that needs to be solved with wisdom, not with brute force or hatred or bigotry or political propaganda. |
dayowunmi:Escalate means increase: to become or cause something to become greater, more serious, or more intense He is not blaming Fulani actions on social media. He is saying that social media is hyping it, increasing it, exaggerating and expanding it. It makes the problem more difficult to solve. |
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