₦airaland Forum

MaziARINZE01:
The DSS and Army intelligence must be so silly not to foresee it coming.

Even an ordinary civilian knows that such act would be attempted by those 1$lamic 1diots on October 1.

Suggest solutions. A fellow mad man did his own too in US killing 13 and injuring 20.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/01/us/oregon-college-shooting/

Chizzled06:
Your are deluded. Poisoning others with your delusion. I'm here to give you an option to educate yourself and start reasoning rationally.

Again, that option has not helped you. You accepted recently that you are not better than us.

MizJanet:
"The cross " ? , but we aint talking about cross here . The cluelesness of religiotards is getting stronger .

The Bible is all about the cross as it were. It's the point of reference. You wouldn't understand if you've never been there.

chuna1985:
God is the creator n he has no son. God's don't give birth to son's, Mere men do.

And you know this how?

chuna1985:
No one is selling anything to u........ U have seen d truth... U can either reject or accept it.

What is the truth and what has it done for you?

The few times i have been opportuned to see our army interrogate terrorist suspects, there's a lot left to be desired. i wasn't very happy with the level of intelligence and information gathering. Coupled with this approach of vainly trying to show/suggest that the terrorists are not Muslim.

K9blunt:
@first .......good for you @last ...............not at ease with your kind! oh please get a grip! people like me just simply get tired of your type of people, jeez!

Hypocrite you still.

MizJanet:

Lollls, why wont you wait aftrall you know they are fantasies . You know the opposite of living is NON-LIVING .



Dont bring business here , suicide bombers are paid and they must render the service . No biggie .

You have no idea, heaven is real and i want to go there.
What business are you on about? The fact is clear for you to reason instead of hiding behind that finger of yours.

Chizzled06:
And they are wrong about believing they are better. You are wrong about believing you are better. And that's why I can't stay silent and watch your ignorant bigotry

Continue making noise then for no purpose. You don't think you're better, we're not better, but you're restless.

Owoloku1:
Good speech

Why was he looking tired??

And HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY to every Nigerian

It's natural that he should be tired,especially his voice, given the fact that he has been talking,engaging and giving so many talks recently.

Happy Indepence,Nigerians. Make una let Baba rest oh,it was evident in his voice.

" Nobody should fear anything from me. We are not after anyone. People should only fear the consequences of their actions"

" The new APC government is embarking on a clean up, introducing prudence and probity in public financing."

PMB needs rest oh, it was very obvious from his speech.

Chizzled06:
I would let them be, if they can let me be. But I've found that religious people find it impossible to keep it personal.
Lol. Not better, because I don't believe anyone is 'better' than anyone else. But, when you talk about 'fulfillment', that's a different topic entirely.
I've lived a far more fulfilled life since I broke free from the shackles of the propaganda of indoctrination.

They believe they are better, that's probably why they do not keep it personal. You said that you are not better, maybe you are lying then or do not get yourself. Many theists also lay claims to living a far more fulfilled life since they "found God". Can they rest now?

MizJanet:

Imagiiine that ! Staying on earth a couple of EXTRA YEARS , so thats much more important than to be with Jesus ?

No, not more important. Every child of God is already with Jesus in a sense BTW. Patience is a virtue given us by God, waiting some tiny 100years to go home and stay for over 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000years is a luxury we can afford. Stare at the big picture until it sinks.

Bull.shit ! Will you go to New York now if you had the opportunity provided You got a relative thats gonna care for you in New York ?

- If yes , why didnt she embrace her oportunity to die instantly since jesus will care for you ?


- If no, that means you didnt trust your relative in new york , she didnt trust jesus ? I see OR you are not interested in going to NY , which means you aint interested in going to heaven ? That then means you dont belive what you preach .

Jesus already cares for you and for us, you are not waiting for Him to care for you in Heaven. You are ignorant of so much.
1Pe 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
That extra opportunity to impart and impact here on earth is not there in Heaven. The opportunity and privilege to earn more reward and points as it were is here on earth. It is here that sowing takes place.

This man, none of those who died at Hajj prepare for such , they didnt go to Mecca for the aim of dying .

A suicide bomber is not motivated by the desire to die , what motivates him or her is the Money ! The money is the TOP priority . Not a matter of been happy to die .

Infact , lets assume that a suicide embrace that opportuniy to die , WHY DO U GUYS SHOUT " BLOOD OF JESUS!!" when you meet the opportunities to die in a road accident . Lol , they will even start praying Not to die . " ooooooo jesus pls save us , we dont want to die , your sons must not die , " . Hypocrites .

My point exactly. Being prepared to die, ready to die or wanting to die is not a proof of anything in the context of our discussions. SOME people are prepared, willing and resigned to die. i gave example of SOME Hajj stampede victims and suicide bombers. Some of them are willing and resigned and ready, with the hope that they are going to some place(false or real). These people do not make you change your mind, opinion or attitude, do they? So, it does not matter much to you the attitude of other theists who do otherwise when faced with death. That is the reality on ground. Your gloating around is just you hiding again behind that finger of yours.

Amerinancy:
you are a big fool. May God have mercy on you, because you don't know what you just said

Don't mind him, i am here and born to make him happy.

Chizzled06:
Choosing whether or not to believe in God is one thing. Having beliefs that contradict established fundamental truths about the universe is delusion.
Then there's the fact that I currently live in a country where religious bigotry is the order of the day. You really can't ignore it even if you try. And it's even more annoying when you know it is all unfounded bullshit

Well, you are not better than them like you have stated. You can let them be. Your beliefs and unbeliefs that do not contradict anything doesn't make you more fulfilled or better, or have you changed your mind?

Chizzled06:
I don't claim to be better than anyone. I just feel religion generally encourages delusion, hatred and intolerance amongst other things.
Organised religion has a way of polluting the minds of people with the inhumane propaganda of its founders or leaders, and has done so since humans invented Gods.

People commiting genocide in the name of 'holy war'
People funding preachers' private jets/flashy cars in the name of 'giving God his share'
Men raping immature young girls in the name of religious marriage
People denying young adults contraceptives and sexual health education in the name of superficial righteousness.
Denying women equal opportunity in the name of 'being made from man's ribs'

I could go on & on

Seeing you are not better than those who choose God, no need disturbing us or being agitated about us like you're better off. Many irreligious people like Stalin and Mao are also criminals, it is not a lack of religion or belief that makes one good (whatever the definition).

K9blunt:
death can come anytime, so I have to live my life as my conscience deems fit, am happy and I feel free.

only hypocrites feel they really want to go to heaven but to die is not on their happy list.

I'm also happy and free, despite being allegedly misguided. My conscience deems it fit for me to serve God and believe Him. Only hypocrites feel there's no heaven and yet are not at ease with people like me.

Naijacitizen:
Good morning BeremX, medolian, paassinshot, Demdem, Agarawu23, image123, and other progressives. Come and read speech of our great leader.

Thanks man.

15. We intend to tackle inequalities arising from massive unemployment and previous government policies favouring a few people to the detriment of the many.

K9blunt:
I bow o Miz Janet. and that image guy or whatever his monica is......... is just plain misguided and I suggest you free him in his ignorant bliss or else you will just get intellectually exhausted

Of what benefits are your being rightly guided, at least you agree that i have bliss?

MizJanet:
haha ! So making impact and impact on earth is much more worthy than you been in heaven ? Uh ! Thats a sign you dont belive what you preach ,have you seen someone who truly desires to be in New York and had the opportunity to achieve his aim but prefers to stay in Nigeria ? !!!!!



are you nut ?

Is suicide bombing not a business ? Thats a money contract , you die becos of the money



too bad ! Are you telling me that those who died at Hajj travelled to Mecca for the aim of dying ?

Heaven is for eternity, countless millions of years. Staying on earth a couple extra years is no biggie for those who understand. Why rush to NY today and be unable to make any extra cash when you get to New York, when you can work and make extra today and still leave tomorrow. It's supposed to be commonsense!!
My reference to Hajj and suicide bombers is with the angle on some of them's readiness, happiness and preparedness to die. Does their happiness, resignation and readiness make you feel better? Why then and how do some Christians unreadiness disturb you?

logicboy:
Here is evidence that the bible lies or worse, bears false witness;


Psalm 14:1
King James Version (KJV)
14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.


So, the bible is telling me that all atheists are corrupt and have done abominable works? Is that not a lie?

Is Bill Gates, who is agnostic but doesnt believe in the Christian God a corrupt someone that doesnt do good? Bill Gates does a lot of charity and research in Africa.


Are people that set up atheist charities to help poor people evil and corrupt?


Are 64% of Japan, an atheistic nation any more corrupt than Nigeria (48% christian) ?


Is the bible not lying and bigoted towards atheists?

Don't remember answering this already, though i trust Anony and co to have. Here's a good read and answer still.
http://www.andybannister.net/can-we-be-good-without-god/?utm_content=buffercd8ad&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Chizzled06:
Thank you for the background information. It's great to finally hear something original.

Can I ask why you chose this particular God or religion? Or was the ideology passed down from your parents?

The real question is what is your problem? What do you have, what makes you better than people who believe in God?

basille:
Lol. Don't be quick to jump into conclusions.
I don't want to go heaven unless they have Playstation 4, an 8k UHD 60" television, and most importantly free wifi there.

Happiness doesn't consist or limit to these.

MizJanet:
Gosh ! Am speaking with a programm'ed ro.bot

i don't want to believe I'm speaking to one incapable of reading, comprehension and intelligent discussion.
You impart and impact here on earth, not in heaven. The opportunity is just a lifetime. Some people are happy to die too, like suicide bombers and some at Hajj. I'm sure that doesn't convince you either. Give your life to Jesus and enjoy eternal life.

MizJanet:
lol @ red , a man desire to be in New York City , do you think he would waste time to get his visa at any slight opportunity ? , you guys desire to be with Jesus in heaven but you always run away from opportunities like sickness , accidents e.t.c thats funny , since those oppotunities that will enable you to get you visa to heaven . Death !

You impart and impact here on earth, not in heaven. The opportunity is just a lifetime. Some people are happy to die too, like suicide bombers and some at Hajj. I'm sure that doesn't convince you either. Give your life to Jesus and enjoy eternal life.

nationwide1:
So jail break and suicide bombing are common criminal activities in Nigeria. How many of such common activities are happening in Akwa Ibom, Enugu, Abia, Lagos states?


Are you from Kwara State or related to Lai Mohammed?

You keep shifting goalpost. Anyway, i said jailbreak and mindless killings are not localized. What that means is that any crazy person or group or mad 'jihadists' can kill people,it's not predictable or easily controlled. We've seen this recently even in the US. This is different from the core things boko haram do, insurgency. Insurgency is currently in a state of near coma, crime is not.

nationwide1:
When I said I was shocked to stupor, it was because of your insincerity secondary to your blind support for Mr President.


You compounded your insincerity when you sounded like a person who has lived all his life in New Zealand. I'm sure even those in New Zealand read about how bokoharam ransacked 3 communities in Adamawa State 2 days killing over 50 people and destroyed properties worth millions.


Even those in New Zealand read how bokoharam destroyed DSS office in Lokoja, burnt all DSS operation vehicles and freed 30 bokoharam members in DSS custody.


Talking about the absence of Nigerian delegation at the bokoharam meeting organized by UN, no serious Nigerian will still defend such failure today.


I'm a bit disappointed in your response.

There is no insincerity, everything i have said is true. There's no blind support but logical, rational questions, not dramatization and politicising. What have we missed exactly by our absence as a serious Nigerian? BTW, it was not a boko haram meeting, get your facts right. You've listed criminal activity which i already talked about that they still exist. But the core of boko haram and what they stand for have been NEAR comatose. Crime happens also in new Zealand. Jail breaks and mindless killings are not localized. They are only minimized and that is happening already.

vislabraye:
Why will he travel all the way abroad and not attend such meeting ? What's the of spending such money travelling along with 29 people and refuse to attend the most important meeting ? It's not everything you can/should defend. At times silence is golden.

And what would we have gained by attending that we have now lost? How can it be the most important meeting when it isn't even on the schedule or list of high level meetings?

http://www.un.org/en/ga/info/meetings/70schedule.html

MizJanet:
I really have no idea why this churches decide to make noise at night just to disturb the sleep of their neighbours , anyway their noise reveal their hypocrisy . Ask me how ?

A lady came out to give her testimony , she narrated how she would have died from an accident , a petrol tanker falls and That would have led to mass death if a tiny blaze of fire was near . She said they all ran away from their cars but thankfully the situation was controlled . She said they were all afraid . But she is happy they did not die


NOW , I wont have any problem with this experience if this lady doesnt bliv she will go to heaven , that means she is only protecting the only one live she had .

But from the tone of her voice and songs she used while delivering her experience , you will know she is an HEAVEN beliver . Funny , Then the question is: why is she happy that she didnt die and go to heaven ? why thank God for taking away your golden opportunity to be in heaven ?

You impart and impact here on earth, not in heaven. The opportunity is just a lifetime. Some people are happy to die too, like suicide bombers and some at Hajj. I'm sure that doesn't convince you either. Give your life to Jesus and enjoy eternal life.

nationwide1:
Your comment that bokoharam is near coma just shocked me to stupor.

It means you're not sincere.

I'm happy you had no contrary comments on all i said/explained. On boko haram, I'd be insincere if i said there is no difference or improvement. When boko haram was alive and well, they were closing airport, markets, schools and hospitals, they were sacking emirs, local government chairmen, police stations and barracks, they were taking hundreds of captives in women and children, they were taking over local governments and releasing videos displaying their spoils of war. They have been severely restricted and reduced to common criminals. There's no where or country where there are no common criminals, killing people mindlessly. That's tougher to stop,predict or control and will take time. You cannot predict the next accident or robbery for instance. Preying on soft targets can be minimized and work is going on on that. Mad 'jihadists' can strike anytime, even in US and London, security operatives can only try to minimize them.

Chigold101:
blame game does not solve problems. Don't put the blame anywhere else other than at the President's feet. Doesn't the President have other people working with him? If the Joy of a person didn't include it on the crucial list doesn't common sense require that our Daura Durll.ard and his modest delegates use their brain to know that that meeting should get more attention than any other thing?

Now what did the going to the UN meeting by the president and his modest team achieve?

Buhari has plan whatsoever for anything. He just want to enjoy being called the president and enjoy the opportunity to purnish his enemies or perceived enemies...

Since this meeting is so important, kindly tell us the benefits, or evaluate what we missed. It's very easy to throw stones.