₦airaland Forum

anonimi:
Na true you talk, my bro.

We can do better for sure and the Jonathan/Sambo team is doing better progressively already.

What is sure & certain is that we CANNOT do better with the daft & dumb old pensioner who allowed weeds to overtake our railways.



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We also cannot be better with the APCheat party, if their so called best governor is unable to deliver train services 19 months after he said they will commence, abi





Do you know any reason why someone not afflicted with CCBS should vote for such a fraudulent and deceitful party


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titi50:
Honestly, my marvelled by this. This is what we call change that Nigerians need. GEJ has to continue to finish what he has started. I, must personally comment on a point not mentioned here. During GEJ/SAMBO, Nigeria won the prestigious nations cup which Nigeria has never won in the past 19yrs of history. God bless GEJ/SAMBO. #GEJ4NAIJA

bakila:
Hmm, Ok answer me did Goodluck said stealing is not corruption? Did he refer the the gargantuan theft by our public officers as mere stealing? When he was shoeeless will he not faint at the mention of some of the sum alleged?

Swiftboy:
And councel these projects because they're too expensive? You're as ignorant as your presidential candidate. I cant believe this. Mediocrity and we're just coming up. Niger get real.

Swiftboy:
And your APC did not spend on all these propaganda that GEJ has done nothing weldone.

agabaI23:
Good luck said that. Abacha is not corrupt, I will stabilize global oil price. Who said that?

LRNZH did not ignore me. He ran away. He has been viewing this thread if you don't know. You are arguing without point

Rexyl:
trying to compare Jonathan performance in office with performances of those State Governors. Unlike the State governments, the Federal Government under President Jonathan doesn't give much publicity to it's achievements. If the Federal Government were to package all its program/projects and publicise them as the States do, probably many would have been convinced that FG under Jonathan has performed.

Swiftboy:
You are a damn pessimist! Oliver twist. These are not mediocre projects...its been a while any government has done things for us. Wake up from propaganda. I believe this is the begining! Lets ask him to do better with our votes...we cant trust the new guys simply the tell us to. If we're crying we should see.

Rexyl:
Hahaha na so you you jealous uncle jona achievements ni... If your Ogun State were to build 12 Universities, 7 Polytechnics, railways across Nigeria, reimburse millions if farmers across Nigeria to improve on farm production, construct 10 lanes of express way from Lagos-Ogun-Ibadan, not to talk of other places, your State Government were to pay the minimum salaries in it's full amounts, and many more I can't be mentioning, probably your State could have been a far better place for all Nigerians to live.

donphilopus:
Nice one. This would be heartbreaking to the PDPians.

Meanwhile, Jonathan be like "Pls paint my face, I don't want Nigerians to recognise me after May 29th (when Buhari would have been sworn in)"

shadowgwalker:
shatap kid!

brownlord:
Ask tinubu's company "Lagos state" and Tinubu's manager "Fash-ole" how much they owe before you come here to spew trash

brownlord:
Buhari you see your life?

Because of your borrowing attitude, people don they mistake debt for debate.

Smh

100Cents:
I am ashamed of all the Nigerian youth campaigning for Buhari..

These are people who don't know what Buhari's former regime was all about or care to consult history to know who he really is.

If they think buhari is credible to lead 160m people, let them allow him to talk from his brain unaided for just 30 minutes. He will spit shiiit.

Bunch of mediocre elements..

o42austino:
ur 1,3 and 10 re the same

CFCfan:
Yes he did. Like Jonathan, he debated alone.

nellyjohn:
Am sure APC won't show up. Dey wil still run just like dey did during the last debate set up for there spokesman. Besides, what does Buhari knws?
GEJ till 2019 jor

CFCfan:
For the record, Buhari did not show up for the debate with Obasanjo in 2003, while GEJ didn't show up for one debate in 2011

thehomer:
Again, your problem is with the English language or rather your poor attempts at self delusion. I have told you what your God did. I don't see what Paul has to do with you addressing your God's genocidal command. Or don't you think that genocide is a crime?

Obviously I'm considering what he did. That is why I brought up the clear genocide he commanded but you just keep twisting and deluding yourself.

Yet he did.

Your God is a genocidal maniac. Get that into your brain. How can it be impossible when some people were presented with it? What does Jesus' non-sacrifice have to do with whether or not your God commanded a genocide? I see that whenever I ask you to carefully think about your loyalty to your God, you get very scared.
I'm not contending about the law, but about the command issued by your God.

Your God is genocidal according to your Bible. I'll give you two. Brahma and Ganesha

I'll keep asking that question until you answer it. No you've not answered it. The question remains whether or not you would have done as your God commanded in Numbers 31.

No, the very idea of morality. And I asked you if the genocide was punishment, you said it wasn't. Then what on earth are you saying here about justice? How can it be just to command a genocide when you're all powerful and all knowing? Even we mere humans say that other humans who command genocide have done something wrong how much more a God who should have known better? It is a sham that the devil keeps you from getting it. I don't believe what you're saying here. You think that it is a good thing that God kept female children as sex slaves while killing all male children was a good thing? How about not killing any children and not taking any of them into slavery? How about not harming any innocent person? Didn't that occur to your God?

And here we have it. A crime is not a crime if it is commanded by God. This is why I say that with your God, all is permissible since according to you here, genocide is permissible when your God commands it.

Yet your God did all that when he commanded the genocide I showed you.

For some reason, you seem to think that those irrelevant questions somehow help your claims but I still find them ridiculously pointless. Assume I can't do any of those things, what follows from that?
Yes I'm better than your God because I am more moral than he is.

Yet he has commanded genocides. That means he is unrighteous.

See my responses above.

I don't worship.

Of course you won't see it. Given the fact that in your ignorance, you've had to defend your evil God and think that your God owns you.

And this is a clear demonstration of the depravity you share with your God. Anything would be right if commanded by God? There is nothing wrong in owning human beings? Wow. Thank you for confirming my words all along. I always suspected that you too would go ahead and kill those babies if given the command.

Thank you. I would rather fail using the standard of your God's word since your God is evil. As Ingersoll said:



I would rather not shock the heart of a hyena.

thehomer:
I didn't change the context, you were trying to create some sort of special status for yourself.

I asked for the reason and you've given me a non-response. Why don't you simply tell me the reason? Or don't you know?

You don't have to quote things either. You too can try to make your points in other ways. Ingersoll greatly helps my cause. Abraham wanted to kill his son because God told him to. Or have you forgotten?
I disagree with what you think makes a righteous life. I don't see how pleasing an evil God makes one's life righteous. Those people are not like me and as I've shown, pleasing your God sometimes means performing very evil acts. Also, you'll notice that for some reason, your God talked to those people directly but for some reason, he won't talk to me directly. You too can try to get him to talk to me.

What I had in mind was the fact that you think that sin should be transmissible and the fact that you think killing Jesus would somehow make things okay. Are you saying that if someone is related to a thief, they should get the same punishment as the thief? What I'm driving at is why you think that sin should be transmissible at all. You keep saying that it is a law. I'm sorry but who made this the law? I didn't skip anything because as you'll happily point out, humans aren't God.

Do you think that the wages of sin should be death?

That is if they commit a crime not just because they were born. Actually that argument has to be had because you keep on ignoring the fact that according to your beliefs, your God deliberately made sin magically transmissible from one person to another rather than in arising within each individual. Why should we all be guilty of what Adam did? That is the question you're not answering. Does the child being the child of a criminal mean the child should be sentenced to prison?

All this just to avoid my direct questions. Here they are again. Are you aware that according to your Bible, your God ordered Israelites to kill babies? Are you aware that your God ordered Abraham to kill his child?

I'm sure you can answer these questions starting with a yes or no. I still don't need your Bible to care about people and if you must know, there were civilizations before the Bible was written who also cared about people. Over the years, many laws found in the Bible have been rejected as being inhumane while others even predate the Bible. Rather than giving another long response, simply begin by answering the questions above.

No that isn't murder or assault. Now will you answer my question? Here it is again. Is commanding the killing of old people, all males, babies and adults while keeping the young female babies and virgins to be used genocide? I'm sure you can start your answer with a yes or no.

You have successfully said rubbish. It is amazing that you could say such rubbish when you have access to the Internet. What you've said says nothing about the theory of relativity. Comparative anatomy, comparative physiology, biochemistry, embryology, genetics, biogeography, paleontology and many other fields demonstrate the theory of evolution.

They're not as relevant as Numbers because in Numbers, we have God himself being quoted while Matthew and Romans were written by people expressing their opinions. Secondly, I'm showing you how depraved your God is not how people who don't know him think he is good.

Yet we have your God speaking as if one child can just be substituted for another. Not believing in somethign when there is no evidence for it is what reasonable people do. Gullible people believe things without evidence.

What you're calling treason and what not in order to justify killing people is what we consider to be making it a crime to think. After all, why do you think that today, such people won't be punished? Why is it that today, non-believers in that same God aren't being killed in civilized societies? This is why I asked you earlier if you would agree with evidence. Now, you have the evidence before you but you've decided to brand anyone who doesn't believe in your God as committing treason and what not. And that is the true evil in your religion. If you people had the power you used to, people like me would probably be getting killed just like people in that Bible passage.

I presented you with a passage where people were killed for not worshipping your God, you read it and just flat out denied what was before your very eyes. It is truly amazing how your religion can warp your mind so.

If I am a sinner by nature because God didn't want to stop the transmission of Adam's sin, then it is still your God's fault. Jesus Christ was not a solution. It was simply your God allegedly killing another person for fun. I have considered the theory of evolution and determined that it isn't fictional. If God wanted Adam to be "refined", why didn't he simply create a better Adam?

Is it your desire for eternal life that makes you chase after your metaphorical God?

Of course you'll say I'm not being objective but then, I'm the one calling a genocidal maniac what it is. Who gave God that right? If we're just dashing out rights, then I deny your God that right. As I've said, your God is worse than both of them combined. As far as I can tell, your God is worse than Mao and Stalin combined so I wonder why you keep calling on them when you have your God to look at.

thehomer:
Then it looks like your problem is with the English language and definitions. Your God did all that when he commanded the killing of all males, old people while keeping young females for his nefarious purposes. You claim genocide is God's judgement. That is just how depraved you and your God are.

So you're saying genocide was God's punishment?

So when God commands genocide as punishment, it is not evil?

So because you cannot be in someone's shoes, you're unable to tell what you would do if you were presented with the options? Are you this foolishly ignorant about yourself or are just failing once again to be dishonest? Well, all this tells me is that you would actually kill people if your God told you to because a reasonable person would refuse to obey such a command and would be proud to say it.

One of them is morality. Your God is genocidal and that makes him inferior to a non-genocidal God.

I already did that but you kept avoiding it. You're welcome to address it when you're feeling brave. Once again, read what your God commanded in Numbers 31 and tell me if you would have obeyed such a command.

Your God is supposed to be a moral agent and thus is bound by that idea. You can explain things by telling me why you think genocide is sometimes okay because that is what you're doing when you say it is okay for God to command it as punishment. And this is when this God could easily have avoided killing non guilty parties like male babies. And you can also tell me why God felt keeping those young females would help him.

Your confusion runs really deep. You're saying that God commanded genocide and didn't command genocide. Just go to bed because you're drunk and high.

You should have completed my statement. I said whether or not I support them is meaningless because your God supports them even more than any human ever could. Asking me pointless questions does nothing to exculpate your evil God.

So bad things commanded by God in the Old Testament are good? So God has the right to command genocide? Then based on what you've said, with God, all is permitted. This means with God, even genocide is permitted.

I've shown that I'm better than your God and that your God supports all the things you've listed as evil.

This from someone who worships a genocidal maniac.

I think that ignorance is a form of slavery not necessarily the only form. Now answer my question.
Hmm. So you don't know what slavery is? Well here's a dictionary definition to help you.

And if we use the standard of the acts your God commanded and committed, your God is immoral and so are you. Read your Bible and ask yourself whether or not you would command or commit genocide, keep women for your "use", torture people for many years and other atrocious acts your God commanded.

thehomer:
Using words and ideas that other people share.

Why was man being tested? Was it because God didn't know something about them?

How on earth does saying "if we're going to be quoting things" imply being forced? Abraham was going to kill his son wasn't he? Or don't you know what your Bible contains?
If those ones lived righteous lives, then I'm living a righteous life and so did Ingersoll.If you're saying that one needs your God to be righteous, then you have no idea how evil your God is.

What you've rephrased as my question is not my question. My question again, is why should everyone deserve to be punished for Adam's sin. Now you claim not to have said what I've pointed out that you said. Let me quote you.

If according to you, people who sin deserve punishment and we're already in sin as default, then you're saying everyone deserves to be punished because of what Adam did.

Do you think it is right to jail a child because their father was a criminal? Because that is the implication of what you're saying here about relationships.

What exactly is wrong with my tenses? Are you aware that "has" can be used to refer to past events? Are you aware that according to your Bible, your God ordered Israelites to kill babies? Are you aware that your God ordered Abraham to kill his child?

You're quoting Peter while I'm quoting God himself. Who do you think has more relevance?

I see nothing interesting about that passage because I don't need the Bible to care about people. Do you? I already care about people without the Bible. You did not oblige me because you did not answer my question.

Is commanding the killing of old people, all males, babies and adults while keeping the young female babies and virgins to be used genocide?

Then please demonstrate the theory of relativity and the theory of gravitation. Again, whining about the theory of evolution doesn't make it false.

I've not sidestepped anything. The things I brought up in Numbers is relevant that is why I brought them up. They demonstrate your God's evil nature. Ignoring it and typing addressed in capital letters doesn't help you. Please can you explain how the evil in Numbers is a red herring when considering whether or not your God is evil?

Hmm I see. Your problem is with the English language. A still can also to a distillery. That was why your earlier statement made no sense to me. I don't use marijuana. Apparently Job in his smartness thought that one child can be replaced by another. Talk about an ignorant heartless person. Well, Job is in currently being tormented in the lake of fire.

More irrelevant issues. I said I had evidence of God killing people for having different ideas and I presented the evidence. Now why have you not changed your mind? Is it because you were lying? Note that what you're calling disobedience was people who had a different idea. Do you know why we no longer kill pepole for not worshipping your God? Well if you're saying that Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao also didn't believe in your God, I see no problem with that statement. After all, there are mass murderers who believed in your God so what is your point?

You want me to take responsibility when you say Adam caused everything? Well why doesn't God take some responsibility? Or are you too lazy to see that far? Have you considered that both God and Adam are fictional? My point is that you're being inconsistent when you blam Adam but not God. Why did God test Adam? Was he ignorant? Or not yet omnipotent?

So your God is only metaphorically like rock and water? Maybe your God is entirely metaphorical then.

Your God ordered the killing of babies, recommended slavery, recommended that young women be used and he is going to torture most of humanity in hell. Pol Pot and Stalin combined don't even touch your God since he will torture far more people than either of them in addition to what he already did while knowing better.

sbaks:
I don't like rubbish questions like this one. Asking me rubbish questions as if you don't know how islamists overtook turkey, and what they do around the world! Mtcheeeeeewm don't quote me for silly ?s

sbaks:
You think say even the APC like osinbajo? Siddon for there! Na ISIS PARTY O

mackriss:
Gus! This reminds me about a popular adage in Igbo land that says, it is good for the fowl to carry the body of the dog(dog) bt when the dog carries the fowl it becomes the a thief. That is excellent one indeed by APC by its supporters, they should continue to attack the president of Nigeria but one thing get me puzzled about Naija. It is believed that Britain has sowed seed of discord between the north and the south which today is dwindling the growth of this nation. In Britain we have Muslims,in America the same thing,they were able to accommodate each other irrespective of their belief and religion but ours is different. If other states that belongs to PDP started behaving like mad cows like what Buhari and his supporters are doing we will plunge this nation into fire. We should be careful the way we do things because nobody stays under the fire when the fire is burning. Yes, there one inevitable truth that need to be told, Nigeria is not the answer now. You might ask why? Point and blank we are not one. See you.