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deebrain: @Image123

U are always in frosbel's threads to seek trouble. U deserve a good RKO.

you have a problem. what debo said is what I've been saying all through the thread, but since Image123 is the one saying it, you and your folks must oppose it. I hope debo can share his view on hell and Sheol, perhaps you'll see then. bigoted fellows

people listening to grail? its January 24, 2013 i suppose.

aletheia: So if "christians" decide to attend a "court' wedding, it becomes equivalent to "church"? After all, where two or three. . .

ithink you forgot to add IN MY NAME! Just thinking,

thank God the op is not God, else i won't be a Christian by his standards.

Kay 17: But earlier you said christians are sinleSs and pure dUE to the exercise of their power frm Christ. If such power isn't exercised, they wouldn't be Christians in the first place!

perhaps you read me wrong, i say Christians have power to overcome and resist sin, its a power others don't possess. That is one reason Jesus is so important in every life. As for the many not exercising their powers, they have their reward. I'm not the rewarder, though your conclusion is not v.far from mine.

UnderDaRadar: Sarcasm of course, being gay is much more than a guy sticking his penis into another dude's anus, which of cos some heterosexuals do with girls. It entails thinking, perception, taste in music, color, movies, etc ...should I force Rap on a 7yr old who love Spice Girls and dressing up. We love him irrespective of his future sexual orientation, and if we mere mortals can love s1 so different from the norm then why wud his Creator, God despise him.

why not try teaching him and patiently correcting him? Correction is not necessarily done with force. If he was asick child that loves eating say sugar or something that's affecting his health, would you leave him to what he loves? if you had a dullar.d child who all he loves is to play video games or ludo, would you leave him to his inclinations? Now it has to do with morality and godliness, you're forming human rights and sleekly blaming God?

UnderDaRadar: I have an important question here. My little 7yr old nephew loves to play with dolls and is quite very effeminate, he walks with a swing and we as family members are quite sure he's gay or gonna be gay. Now do we kill him, cos he's obviously an abomination, do we chain him to pastor adeboye's pulpit and exorcise the gayness out of him, do we fast and pray and plead with God that he made a mistake in giving us a gay beautiful boy, afterall we all are gifts from God, don't know why he chose to give us a gay one though when He knows its sinful to be gay. Bear in mind this kid is too young to understand sexuality or sex for that matter.

you're to correct the child, ever heard of child training? I've seen kids who seemed like natural preachers/pastors but didn't become anything close. Some were church and Bible literature loving, preaching to the mirror and all that, there was this kid who even threatened to destroy their TV and whatnot. Didn't exactly turn out a Bishop. If you had a little fellow who likes taking money from people pocket, and taking other children's property, would you. just leave him to his nature? That a piece of land naturally grows weed doesn't mean it must be left weedy since that is the nature. Remove the weed, and build something profitable. Train UP a child in the way he ought to go. Some kids don't like reading or math or writing, they were trained and are leaders today. Train your 7yr old, show some responsibility.

^^ are you Jesus Christ? thanks lol.

some posts like the above, i need to answer using a computer, so have some patience please.

may God help him, but he needs to work. faith without works is dead and its killing this country. Just do the right thing minister.

Kay 17: @image123

From your conclusion, I can safely conclude that there are no Christians in Nigeria.

Homosexuality isn't yet criminalized in Nigeria so its not a crime for now. However should all abnormal things be criminalized??

there are Christians but they are not using their powers. There's a lot of iniquity abounding and the love of many waxing cold like Jesus said. I'm not in the legal system and can't dictate what should be criminalised. But sin is sin.

debosky: This is appropriate for the church, but cannot be enforced on the wider society that comprises of Christians, Muslims, animists, atheists and others.

Besides, why the undue focus on sexuality and not on the obvious ills destroying Nigeria? Homosexuality has been 'spreading' so fast that despite it being permissible, only 1.5% of UK citizens call themselves homosexual?

What percentage of Nigerians lie, steal, cheat etc.? How much of that do we hear preached?

I'm not enforcing it, there's nothing wrong showing and warning everyone. God is not limited to the church, if the consequences come, it affects all. i don't see the focus on sexuality, how many threads are on it? how many messages did you hear on it? Were you at any of the campgrounds and programs held last month, redeem, winners, mfm, deeper etc? Was their message focus on sexuality or only sexual sins? Why does it appear to me that you're making hasty assumptions.

hope nobody's going to give me a dirty slap from behind for posting with efficos.
just wanted to point out that the phrase "FOR a covering" is not the same as "AS a covering". You don't need any links or study materials to see that, do you?

una wan force mi to talk on tattoo sha, anyway, i believe my point has been noted. The posts encompassed every post and the air around as it were, not only you Anony. There's something to learn from EVERY Scripture including Lev. 19.

Kay 17: Legislations of criminalization and ostracism.

You mean to say that once a man acts JC as his saviour, he becomes perfect??

It is criminal and abnormal, just as stealing is criminal and abnormal, just like murder and lying are criminal and abnormal. No one is ostracising them, but we are telling them to behave responsibly as human beings.
i guess you refer to Jesus Christ as JC? If yes, once any man accepts Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, the man receives power to sin no more.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
But power is a thing of choice, you can switch it on or off. There can be power and you switch off your T.V or fan or iron. The same sense, one can have power to resist sin and not use it/switch it on. This is usually due to ignorance, many christians are ignorant of the power in them. Its like there is light from the PHCN but you put off all your lights. You can put on all your lights and use the power you receive to say no to sin, and do the right thing. it's called overcoming temptation. The man may be tempted to steal, or kill, or lie, or fornicate, or engage in homosexuality, you simply decide to switch on the power and say no. Sinners don't have such power. they may have strong will and discipline, but it is incomparable to the power that any christian has at his disposal. It's like comparing AA tiger battey power to a 50KVA diesel generator's power, plain ridiculous.

Kay 17: Legislations of criminalization and ostracism.

You mean to say that once a man acts JC as his saviour, he becomes perfect??

It is criminal and abnormal, just as stealing is criminal and abnormal, just like murder and lying are criminal and abnormal. No one is ostracising them, but we are telling them to behave responsibly as human beings.
i guess you refer to Jesus Christ as JC? If yes, once any man accepts Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, the man receives power to sin no more.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
But power is a thing of choice, you can switch it on or off. There can be power and you switch off your T.V or fan or iron. The same sense, one can have power to resist sin and not use it/switch it on. This is usually due to ignorance, many christians are ignorant of the power in them. Its like there is light from the PHCN but you put off all your lights. You can put on all your lights and use the power you receive to say no to sin, and do the right thing. it's called overcoming temptation. The man may be tempted to steal, or kill, or lie, or fornicate, or engage in homosexuality, you simply decide to switch on the power and say no. Sinners don't have such power. they may have strong will and discipline, but it is incomparable to the power that any christian has at his disposal. It's like comparing AA tiger battey power to a 50KVA diesel generator's power, plain ridiculous.

debosky: I have to say I agree with this - homosexuals aren't 'infectious'. Allowing them to marry will not affect the rest of the population in any shape or form. If you are homosexual, marrying or not marrying will not change your orientation.

Gay marriage is permitted in the US - their population is not shrinking. Gay civil union is permitted in the UK - their population continues to grow as well.


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Sin is always infectious. It's like mould in bread, it spreads.
Ecc 9:18 Wisdom is better than weapons of war: but one sinner destroyeth much good.
Heb 12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;

When a dirty ragged person is coming closer to a clean set of people, it is the clean set of people that are more careful as not to lose their whiteness. Like the bolded part of your quote, their population continues to grow as well. We don't need more Achans as stumbling blocks around us. Your careless neighbour that plays with fire and guns is your business. One day, he may burn your house down also, mistakenly or knowingly, or he may shoot your son or teach/influence your daughter to live like him. Or you won't speak with your gay neighbours or permit your kids to go play with the nice couple?

Kay 17: Whether or not homosexuality should be legalized is entirely a secular issue.

To the christians, does the Christian concept of love change in the face of persecution of homosexuals?

Isn't the idea of sin and man; that man is irretrivable flawed to resist sin?

Given that all sins are equal, why does homosexuality attract this much attention?

All sins are not equal, i wonder where you got that idea. Man can say no to sin by accepting Jesus Christ as his Saviour. man has that choice to make. What is persecution of homosexuals, speaking against homosexuality?

thehomer: Please check the post I was responding to and advice your fellow Christian. When you guys have gotten your story straight, then you can come at me.

you also need advice, except you are insincere about learning the truth of the christian faith, and are only interested on each individual opinion. The Bible is available at your disposal.

frosb will always seek an escape clause, i trust him on that.

thehomer: What does it mean to be a Christian? What does it mean to be gay?



Why not black? Or is black now somehow evil? There are several shades of grey. Some lighter than others.

A christian is a follower and disciple of Jesus Christ. A christian obeys the Bible. A gay is an homosexual. Homosexuality is not permitted by the christian's bible.
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

On colours, you can ask God when you see Him. Black connotes darkness, white connotes light.The christian is in spotless white, not ash or gray.

truthislight: "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." (Revelation 22:19).
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^^^

1. it shows that human can tamper with it.

2. But they will loose out on everlasting life.

3. But "this book" will ever be around by God's will for all times.

Translation to pigin english and dialect may not always employ the right words to convey the original sense for lack of appropriate words. (being that they are pegan and use of pegan words)

But that ^^ should not introduce pegan idears into the word of God.

We can always go back to the Jews to learn what and how such sense was used in the OT, being that lots of sense in the NT is quoting the OT.
Peace.

who is this one? making up excuses. We should go to the jews to learn? learn what na? have you not read that the jews are blind? Are you content with been led by the blind, when the Spirit of God is verily available if you can believe?
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.

feedback, olaa well done.
where is frosb the modern mesiah? hope he's not ruptured, i guess he doesn't believe in being raptured.

Pastor Kun: Stop being your characteristically dis honest self, I asked you a question first which you are still evading as we write. Instead of answering my question, you are trying to trap me with a daft/irrelevant question.

i asked 12:40pm, you asked 1:09pm. so i think i asked first, kindly answer. I'm been very kind to you this new year so far, please.

Ubenedictus: it seem u both have a history, hope dat wont stop d both of u frm considering matter objectively. I dont like d vibes im recieveing

God forbid badtins. i don't know him oh.

plappville: HAHA...IT STINKS JUST LIKE THE FRENCH CHEESE which language you go teach me in return.. ?

english, hahahahaha. sorry sorry sorry, I'll teach you errrm writing in tongues.

Pastor Kun: Why don't you address the issue I made concerning if it was God that translated the book of acts? Answering questions with question is dubious or at best evasive.

I think I asked you first?

advocate666: I am now sure that he stole his maths degree. Human race extinct in 100 years? Was he using frankinsense during the service or what? He would think that human race is waiting for his advice on how to survive? Look at his village and his kinsmen survival rate first before worrying about human race. An insignificant man of whom 99% of the human race is not even aware of his existence and 99% of those that are aware of him don't even care much about him.

this is so ignorant. What is 1% of the world population?

Pastor Kun: It's a trick question and I would not fall for your antics.

is the book of Acts the Word of God? what trick is in that, i guess you're not persuaded as usual. go home and learn ihope.

Pastor Kun: Stop being daft you erred when you stated God translated the book of acts. Admit and correct yourself instead of trying to play smart.

please answer the question Kunle, please.

thehomer: Why would God create you with sin and be ready to punish you for eternity?

God didn't create anyone with sin, why do you refuse to learn? you've been told this before?

thehomer: Your first sentence there is false. Is there something logically contradictory in someone being both gay and Christian? Ever heard of the colour grey?

you can't be a Christian and same time be gay, take it

The Christian colour is white, not gray. I'm sure you know there's a difference.