₦airaland Forum

@mamajama

Shouldn't your greivances be targetted at those who aid and abet the killing of American troops which includes the Iranian Govt?

Check my post,still got my nuts with me.  

Bollinger is a well known leftist.He even prohibited ROTC from coming to Columbia so he can't be accused of being a 'Bush lackey'.

debosky:
are you paying someone with a name like mofe obo o (i want crumpet) seriously? 

Is that what it means?Glad to see he and I share a common need.Could bet my nuts he is either a Gunner or a Russian 

[quote author=mofe_obo_o link=topic=81486.msg1531508#msg1531508 date=1190766766]sorry - i meant not low in iq.[/quote]That would amount to praise.

@Osisi

You seem to have drawn the ire of a horde of Mohammedans!   Becareful o,very soon you will be needing Police escorts like Ayaan Hirsi Ali

ocho cinco:
@I-man

I think group think is too limited to explain the uniformity of belief amongst the Muslim faith pertaining to certain issues.
The variation in intensity of emotion amongst such a large community would render it I think academically superfluous.
I recommend a new category of 'Supra Group think'  

Group think involves a conformity of ideas or opinion within members of a group.Whatever the variation in the intensity of emotions in relation to a particular viewpoint,it is the conformity to a viewpoint that symptomises group thinking.

And this mess might have been avoided if Rumsfeld had not deemed the Iraqi enerprise worthy of an
untested conceited military strategy that did not commit enough troops in the first place.
assumed that Iraqis would welcome them as liberators, did not utilise the previous Iraqi
military capability until it was too late, and probably most short sighted of all, left the borders unprotected.

Fundamentally,the question is whether those who are largely responsible for the violence(the various militias) should be held responsible for the violence.It is not the Americans that blow up marketplaces but Iraqis

It is true that there are some things the Americans could have done differently which could have dampened the violence.However,the seeds of the present sectarian conflict were sown centuries ago.There is very little the Americans could do to stop a sectarian conflict ensuing once a Sunni leader was replaced with a Shia.

You mentioned retaining the present Iraqi military capability.The Iraqi army was made up of a Sunni officer oligarchy with Shia conscripts as infantry men.Most of the Shias didn't want to return to such an Army.It is fashionable at present to grasp the old Iraqi army as some kind of tabula in naufragio,but the reality of the Iraqi situation made that option unworkable.

As for having more troops.Do you think that more American troops in Iraq will be to the liking of Iraqis?

I would suggest that there is a variation in the Christian faith
towards various contentious issues because of its loose hold on
its congregation. When the Pope ruled all that he surveyed in Catholic
Europe, a stifled singular viewpoint was par for the course.

@ocho

That is typical of any theocracy or non-democratic society.The problem is. . . why should a free man feel the need to engage in group think on certain issues?If you have a faith that acts as a vehicle of cultural imperialism,people of that faith tend to display unflinching loyalty to the causes of the dominant culture-the Arab.

I tend to call Denex "Abd al Arab",hope my crude knowledge of Arabic is accurate, because like any "good Muslim",he merely parrots lines you will hear from any Arab.You don't have to actually listen to him,all you need is to ask a Sunni Arab his opinion and you can be certain Denex supports such an opinion.

ocho cinco:
But come to think of it, the bush administration leading up to the war

is a classic 'group think' study.

Its one thing for people working within a particular Govt to tend towards particular viewpoints.It is quite another for people of a particular religion. . . .to tend towards one viewpoint on most issues in the Middle East.

Some Christians are pro-Palestine,some are not.Some were in favour of the Iraq war,some were not.No such diversity exists within the "Umma".You can pre-guess an opinion here on NL from a Muslim once it concerns the Middle East.

ocho cinco:
Denex, much of your points about America's faults are quite valid
but forced to choose sides between an American juggernaut and
a bunch of pestilent fanatics, I would rather veer towards that juggernaut
despite its faults.

Denex is a Muslim. . . group think is particularly acute with people of that religion.

I googled this topic,I was half expecting to end up in a South African forum.I ended up in NL

@Afam

With your shoddy intellect,no surprises for taking a figure of speech literally.Maybe he should be speaking in Igbo with wawa dialect,that's the only way you will understand

tkb417:
A peek or a squeeze? which of them? Have you seen the pair before? Give me a preview of what to expect since you know the terrain too well.

NASA dey study am for to understand anti-gravity.I can ashua you that u will loff it.

tkb417:
@Razorr
show me some chesticles I bind you in the name of the father, the son and the Holy spirit

Na wa for you. . .we offer you a peek at Razorr's famous chesticles,you dey invoke Holy Spirit_{na Lordi's u want see?}

Razorr:
Hahahahahahaha

That might work on TKB, but it sure as hell won't work on Loyika, A GAYnner(God bless Le Chacal ).

You friends with Lordi?You can get him to show the man from PH some man boobs.

lordimpaq:
bollocks, absolute rubbish,

what holy grounds, don't blaspheme,

the prophet of this thread desecrates it more than any other outsider,

What you call desecration. . . we call exorcism.Sometimes this thread needs to delivered from the demons  from the Emirates who keep behaving in an ungodly manner.

All the beef happens on the Gunners and Chelksi threads.We don't wan't beef here. . we are vegetarians

@Jackal
Can't remember the quaintity but its more than the usual amount you will expect any self respecting clean human being to have.Your usual tenner worth can be confiscated but you usually don't get arrested.Did you hear about the 4 year old who was stabbed?Its not weed that is causing all these stabbings.Products of single parenting are the problem.

It could have something to do with the Emirates

loyika:
I-Man

I no blame you.

I might start a thread on[i] "Families on Nairaland" [/i] so that we can all come here and boast about who we are in Nigeria and beyond.

GOONER 89

I'm just trying to "Koffi Anann" the dispute.What about my YIM offer?

@Razorr
I think we might need your help here.Maybe,show those two your chesticles. . .  . .that could help.

Loyiks and tkb

Una fit continue. . . . . in the Gunners thread.Na holy ground be dis thread.This is holier than Mecca and Jerusalem combined.

Alternatively,you can go on YIM or create an entirely new thread  

Razorr:
I might just consider joining Manscum if this happens.

Do it girl. . . . you know you want to.Stop fighting your true feelings    

@Jackal

I ain't no Harry Pothead!The stuff been reclassified though.Apparently the cops won't arrest you unless you have a certain quaintity on you.Normally they seize the stuff.

Jose is negative but I'm more interested in winning than attractive footie.Utd's biggest challenge in the coming years is managing Fergie's demise.

@Jackal

Mourinho for United!What say you? Fergie is getting old(O'Shea's mum says he can't function without some lil blue pills) and United needs to think about the long term.Methinks Jose would be more than an adequate replacement.

Obviously,since we don't know when Fergie is retiring,its going to be difficult employing Jose as he may get another lucrative job.However,if Fergie was ever going to suffer a heart attack,choke on his chewing gum . . .  .Jose would be a good replacement.

Only issues I have are with Jose's defensive tactics and long term loyalty.

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=17491.msg1529976#msg1529976 date=1190730409]You guys acan hate all you want while we get the job done on the pitch.Like i said before its hard to hear all this whining,lamentations and curses from the top of the table[/quote]No need to curse a club havin a severe case of premature ejaculation.You guys are tenants occupying a place previously occupied by the Likes of City,Liverpool and Chelski.Now Jackal thinks we should evict you by week 10. . . but we are graciously offering you a stay till winter.

By winter,the real owners of the top place will take over.

loyika:
@ I-Man

Besides mate, get over that "Daddy" stuff will you

Its not everyday some dude tells you he is your daddy .That's some poofy stuff.Like you are waiting for the soap to drop. . . .I'm on alert for any rear guard moves from you!People never learn from Sodom and Gomorrah

@Jackal

We have played a game more than Liverpool and the Arse.I don't believe Utd will win their next 3 league games. . . hope I'm wrong.Weed doesn't affect my judgement anyway.

justkunmi:
loyika
omo, easy o. I've known u a while now and I know u don't trade words except provoked so watever might have happened, don't want to know, just be easy. . . .

Must be talking about the wrong fella. . . this guy came to me with a bottle of KY jelly and started interfering in my biz. . . . .telling me he is my daddy        

What's all this about matchday 10? Utd have to win all their next 3 games to top the League on matchday 10,that's not going to happen. My view is that it will happen in the longer term. . . .around the winter period.

@Temmie10

This kind of stuff is therapeutic you know.It helps people feel more important than they really are.

Buruntashi:
I-man you're incredibly stupid or dumb . Why do you have thousands of western women in Saudi Arabia. You can stay in a country even if you hate the people, govt etc. There's more than one reason why she is, where she is. Are you privy to why she chose to remain where she is?

Neccesity may demand that you remain with a people who are probably sickening or sick,whose country is[i] so derailed[/i].However,while you stay there,you are open to charges of hypocrisy.What is it that so compelling that would make one want to remain with a probably sickening people.

There are probably some Whites living in Nigeria,who wonder whether Nigerians are sickening.While they have such unflattering thoughts of Nigeria and its people,one is entitled to ask them why they chose to remain with a people and a nation they abhor

Seun:
Perhaps he didn't really mean the entire country since that would include the poster himself?

That makes it even more ridiculous to make such comments.If the poster is a citizen,she denigrates herself.If she is a migrant,she has to reconsider her stay with these sickening people

Seun:
In a democracy, you can get a bad president if only 51% of voters are 'bad' voters.

Whether that justifies raising questions over the mental health of an entire citizenry. . . . . that's entirely different

ziddy:
Dont bother trying to educate him cause he just can't get it. I-man= Idiot-man. He's a big fool.

For someone who managed to embark on an argument while lacking the basic facts-Ahmadinejad's holocaust denials -which was thankfully pointed out to you by Davidylan.You are a man of brazen idiocy.

Buruntashi:
Do you have to agree with every policy of the American govt? Even native Americans don't agree with every policy of their govt, does this mean they are hypocrites too? Where would we all be if when we disagree with our govt we have to emigrate. My status in the UK does not restrict me from disagreeing with govt policies, I don't know of you.

That is an imbecillic question.My guess is that she is a migrant.Now look carefully again at her comment

what do you expect from a country so derailed that their president thinks Africa is a country and thinks Mandela is dead - killed by Saddam - how sickening and sick will the citizens be if the leader is that sick in his head?

Agreeing to every single policy doesn't arise here.If you think a country is so derailed and you wonder about how sickening and sick(weird repetition) its citizens are. . . . then you as a person of migrant heritage should have to reconsider your stay in this land of possibly "sickening and sick" citizenry.Why stay in such a derailed country when you are a Nigerian and can go back to your homeland?

ziddy:
Spot-on. Nobody is denying that the holocaust was one of the most horrible human tragedies in living memory. But don't use it as an excuse to commit more evil and injustice

This typical piece of twaddle would have been relevant if Ahmadinejad had merely asserted that while he does believe that the holocaust did happen,he is opposed to the immoral manipulation of the holocaust to support base causes.Unfortunately that isn't the point he has made.

Buruntashi:
Some Jews even agree with Ahmadinejad, I saw the news this morning with Rabbis shaking Ahmadinejad's hands. I believe many Jews are appalled by the policies of their govt. The incessant raids into Palestine is despicable, we shouldn't support a fascist right wing govt like you normally have in Israel.

You seem to be a remarkably clueless individual.You obviously don't know the meaning of the term,fascist.Perhaps,you think it a fashionable term.I think its a term easily brandished by people reeking of unbridled ignorance.

ziddy:
so go ahead and invade Iran too, so you can champion democracy for them. Hot-head.

Better still. . . . let's stop bemoaning the lack of respect for human rights in places like Iran since such talk causes all the mayhem and bloodshed in the world.A remarkably fatuous piece of commentary

ziddy:
Spot-on. Nobody is denying that the holocaust was one of the most horrible human tragedies in living memory. But don't use it as an excuse to commit more evil and injustice

Your pal,Ahmadinejad described it as a myth.That is a denial of one of the most horrible human tragedies.

[quote author=mo_fe_dobo link=topic=81112.msg1529239#msg1529239 date=1190719525]@I-Man
You simply lack a sense of academic reasoning. So I have no-word with you.[/quote]There is nothing faintly academic or resembling "reasoning" in your posts .It is applaudable that you decided to spare us your ignorance.

Buruntashi:
The bold sentence above is stupid. You can live in a country and not necessarily agree with the policy of the govt.

More importantly. . . .you are entitled to  be a hypocrite,but I'm entitled to point out hypocrisy.Migrating to the US and residing there,a nation so derailed,is a typical example of the hypocrisy exhibited by Nigeria's never ending army of visa seeking US bashers.

RichyBlacK:
Show me a quote where Ahmadinejad said Jews were not killed during WW II. Many groups of people were killed during WWII - Russians, Americans, Japanese, etc. Also, Jews were not the only group targeted for elimination by the Nazis.
What makes the Holocaust unique is the number 6 million. If it had been 6,000 we won't be having this discussion.
So, we come back to numbers.

You just quoted an Ahmadinejad's statement describing the holocaust as a myth.Again you engage in a tour de force of irrelevance.That others died too in WW 2 isn't the essence of his comments.His description as a myth,that there was a pogrom targetted against the Jews, is what has brought upon him so much scorn.He never claimed that though the holocaust happened,it was not only Jews that suffered a genocidal campaign.His point is that the holocaust was a myth,it never happened.This is the bone of cotention.

As for the number, 6 million, making the holocaust unique,I fail to see your point.For one thing Ahmadinejad is not merely disputing numbers.Does 4 million Jewish dead make the holocaust a myth?What about 1 million Jewish dead?This is not an argument about the finer details of the holocaust but about whether the holocaust was a myth or reality.

folem:
I repeat that in all countries practising democracy, and where they have an elected house, people from every work of life are elected based on the popular vote.

Repeating something doesn't make it true.We are discussing the position of Speaker and I am totally unaware of democracies where people from any work of life get to be appointed Speaker.It is not a coincidence that almost all of them had stellar academic credentials and excellent careers in intellectually tasking jobs.

Giving me the example of Alhaji Masari is bizzare since the whole point of the discussion is that Nigeria has a culture of medicority.

[quote author=mo_fe_dobo link=topic=81112.msg1529008#msg1529008 date=1190716423]what do you expect from a country so derailed that their president thinks Africa is a country and thinks Mandela is dead - killed by Saddam - how sickening and sick will the citizens be if the leader is that sick in his head?[/quote]Well. . . . . park you bags and come home.Why stay in a country so "derailed"? Maybe you should move to Iran and bask in the wonders of Iranian democracy. . . . which is very much on track.