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The Palestinian apologists seem to be lost for words about the self defeating actions of the palestinians.Nobody is as good as the Palestinians in self immolation

Imani:
Stop being sarcastic! You looooove that butt

She should cover them though.Butts are best appreciated when they are clothed.The mystery is lost if they are bare.

@Topic

That's a hugeeeeeeeee butt

Imani:
One of her pair of butts is bigger than my head and you love it?

How small is your head?

@denex

You don carry your aversion to facts come this thread again?Hitler staunch Christian?Pope Pius "co-holocauster"?Abeg,don't go off on a tangent,stick to the issue of the Isreali/Palestinian conflict.Thanks 

@lucieo

Err on the side of caution.He should come over to the States if he wants to marry you. This just doesn't smell right.

4play, its true. A major premiership side is coming to do their pre-season training in naija in July to mark the celebration of the take off of HITV's premier league broadcast in naija. It's true - Mark my words!

Razorr!I am still waiting for that "major Premiership side" . Abi na next month?  Gullible Nigerians   

Do you know that the executives of the EPL were billed to visit Nigeria as part of the developmental package that are incentives to the broacast right; one or two premiership team(s) will have a pre season tour in Nigeria(all of them wont go the USA or Europe if they see cheaper alternatives) members of the NFA/NFL went to England with the Hitv team when the rights were facilitated.

I am still waiting Lets see these Premiership teams we were promised

Hello!. . .Ehud?. . .yes,its Hamas. . . can we discuss your destruction?

Make una two go cook for me.I dey hungry

Why una dey spoil this thread? I dey find Yoruba wife o Make una find someone for me

Dem go dey lecture you about your own people .They will tell you that they have Igbo friends Very soon I go begin lecture other ethnic groups about themselves.I have friends too from different ethnic groups

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debosky:
so they now want Henry PLUS 10 million quid right? I think someone had too many tequilas before sending out this story

In their calculation,Etoo is more valuable than Henry.Etoo is supposed to be 4 years younger than Henry,hence the £10 million.Keep up the denial,Henry has signalled he wants to go and negotiations are ongoing

I thought my sources were unreliable

Arsène Wenger appears to have signalled his willingness to sell Thierry Henry by entering into negotiations with Barcelona for the first time. The Arsenal manager met Ferran Soriano, the Spanish club’s financial director, in Paris this week for preliminary discussions, though both parties remain some distance from agreeing Henry’s transfer.

Wenger wants to sign Samuel Eto’o as part of the deal, but Barcelona are reluctant to allow the Cameroon striker to leave despite his problems at the club this season. Eto’o has fallen out with Frank Rijkaard, the coach, and Ronaldinho, his team-mate, but this week spoke of his desire to stay at the Nou Camp and play alongside Henry, whose arrival would represent a greater threat to the Brazil forward.

Eto’o is a close friend of Henry and the pair have spoken recently about the prospect of forming a new strike partnership. Even if Barcelona were willing to release Eto’o in order to secure Henry’s services, they would demand at least £10 million from Arsenal to complete the deal. AC Milan are also interested in Henry, but Barcelona would be his preferred destination.

Wenger’s surprising decision to speak to Barcelona stems from his realisation that he is running out of options, with Henry eager to take what many believe would be his final opportunity to move to Spain. Wenger may resolve to cash in on an unsettled player in any case, as he did when selling Patrick Vieira to Juventus two years ago.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/arsenal/article1934934.ece

Where are those people who claimed my sources are unreliable? 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/arsenal/article1934934.ece

Arsène Wenger appears to have signalled his willingness to sell Thierry Henry by entering into negotiations with Barcelona for the first time. The Arsenal manager met Ferran Soriano, the Spanish club’s financial director, in Paris this week for preliminary discussions, though both parties remain some distance from agreeing Henry’s transfer.

Wenger wants to sign Samuel Eto’o as part of the deal, but Barcelona are reluctant to allow the Cameroon striker to leave despite his problems at the club this season. Eto’o has fallen out with Frank Rijkaard, the coach, and Ronaldinho, his team-mate, but this week spoke of his desire to stay at the Nou Camp and play alongside Henry, whose arrival would represent a greater threat to the Brazil forward.

Eto’o is a close friend of Henry and the pair have spoken recently about the prospect of forming a new strike partnership. Even if Barcelona were willing to release Eto’o in order to secure Henry’s services, they would demand at least £10 million from Arsenal to complete the deal. AC Milan are also interested in Henry, but Barcelona would be his preferred destination.

Wenger’s surprising decision to speak to Barcelona stems from his realisation that he is running out of options, with Henry eager to take what many believe would be his final opportunity to move to Spain. Wenger may resolve to cash in on an unsettled player in any case, as he did when selling Patrick Vieira to Juventus two years ago.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/arsenal/article1934934.ece

Drivel? Hehehe. . . . you make me laugh, I-man. The question of wether he was a democrat was raised by you! Or have you forgotten your previous post where you stated that:

After I raised it, you attacked the statement.So his lack of "democratic" credentials is not in question.This "begs the question" why he is a hero? All I saw from you,in that regard, was what I refered to as drivel

Stop imputing words, verbs and sentences that I did not construct, to me. Stop putting words into my mouth. It is irritating. Where did you ever read that I said it's okay to distribute N500 notes because the people did not have transport money, then he will distribute Ghana must Go and you people will explain that it is because the masses did not have fat bank accounts? Only someone with a warped perspective like your own, would let his mind go that far.

Give us a break.Nobody said you said the above but that is the clear logical implication of your earlier comment here:

Now back to your grouse with his method of campaign. He distributed rice. So what?  Various politicians have distributed different things, on their campaign trail. Some have distributed face caps, T-shirts, fabric a la Saraki, name it! The guy knew the masses were hungry, so he spoke to them in a language they understood. Food!

If there is nothing wrong with distributing a bag of rice to a voter,why not N500?Your reasoning is clearly jaundiced and abhorrent.Nobody should defend what is clearly a crime.It is a blatant crime to distribute food to potential voters.That you are proudly defending the indefensible is shocking.The masses are hungry indeed!

As far as him fighting for his mandate is concerned.No politician fights for elective office as much as the Nigerian politician.Having spent so much money bribing the electorate,guess how his money would have been recouped

The initial impression I got from your posts, was that the 'Osu' issue, wasn't even a reality, because you stated that you had never seen one. No one is arguing with that.

If this was the initial impression,"that Osu issue wasn't even a reality",that you gathered from my posts,I must question your powers of comprehension or the lack of one.Let me reproduce my first post

Maybe you have a particularly keen eye for the unsavoury aspects of Igbo people.Like those white people looking out for all the bad things Blacks are up to
Lived in Igboland for 22 years,never saw or witnessed Osu.I did first hear about it in my Social Studies(Junior Sec) and subsequently heard or read about it.I still don't know any Osu.More likely to hear about it on Nairaland than in real life.
Its a shame it still goes on.Its immoral for the victims of the practice  to go through it.The only good thing that comes out of it is that it allows folks like you to use it as a whipping stick on Igbos

Now who in the world with a basic grasp of grammar would have drawn the conclusion,reading the above,that the Osu issue "wasn't even a reality".?

But then you turn round & say "I must have been looking out for it", as if I was out to just dig up the flaws of the Igbo, or as if this was something others' hadn't even talked about before!   If I see something which you haven't seen, would it be right to lie & say that I haven't seen it, too?  In your view it may be odd. In mine, it is not. And i will not tailor my responses, to suit your pre-concieved ideas.

You blither a lot   The question we are dealing with is the scale of the Osu issue and not whether it exists at all.By describing as "odd", an Igbo woman's assertion that she had never seen an Osu,you give the impression that the Osu issue is so widespread,that it is odd for an Igbo person who lived in Igboland to have missed it.

My analogy to prejudiced white people is apt.Many prejudiced white people view all sorts of unwholesome practices by Blacks as widespread.For instance,we had a series of infanticides in London of African(DRC Congo) kids allegedly possesed by evil spirits.Some prejudiced white people deemed it odd anytime I told them I had no personal knowledge of an African kid being killed for being "possesed".They wanted to believe its widespread because they had seen the dead kids .One told me to stop being in denial.

Any self confessed "keen observer" of Igbos will know its not odd for some Igbos to be totally ignorant of Osu pratice.Unless of course,you are like the white colleagues in London who find it hard to put in perspective any bad thing they hear about Africans

dazangel11:
I see because he gave them bags of rice. These guys are really  

No mind them o.Bribing the electorate in such a brazen manner is ignored.Next time,when people call Nigerians corrupt,we will take offence.This is the only country I know of where the public distrubution of bribes is seen as unremarkable while the briber is described as a democratic hero.I thought Nigeria's main problem was bribery and corruption.

laudate:
Oh, so now the requirement for public office, is that you must have been an activist in your former life, before you can think of campaigning for an election?? Yikes!

Spare me the drivel.The question is whether Abiola was a "democrat" not whether he was qualified to run for office.We had a dictatorship from 1983,no where is he known to have uttered a word of criticism about the brutal practices of these dictators-Buhari and IBB.Far from that,he was a personal friend to IBB.

So howelse did we come to the conclusion that he is a "democrat"?Because he ran for office effectively and succesfully?Is that not blatant hogwash? I pointed out earlier that many dictators also ran for office effectively and succesfully.You don't become a democrat simply because of the way you ran for office.

Talking about the manner he ran for office.Does that include the rather brazen bribery of the voters?According to our law,that is a felony.In any civilised country,such brazen bribery will be condemned and you won't have people hailing the briber as a "democrat" .    

If his mandate was stolen and he fought for it, what on earth is wrong with that? Has Peter Obi not been fighting to reclaim his mandate? If the owner of the mandate does not fight for it, who do you think would do so? His enemies?

Nothing wrong with a man fighting to become President.My point is that such fight does not make one special.There is nothing inherently praiseworthy in fighting for your own personal ambition.

@Denex

Have you heard anything more strange? The fact that a person was campaigning to be President and the manner in which he conducted his campaign,is held up as proof that he is a democrat.This was a person that never campaigned for democracy untill his mandate was stolen.What rubbish.

All through the dictatorship of Buhari and IBB,his ex-friend,there was no indication of his democratic credentials.Not one shred of evidence.

justkunmi:
united wants to sign sampdoria's striker Fabio Quagliarella. the fee is reported to be about 11 million pounds.

wta do u guys think?

I heard he is staying in Italy.His price has gone up ever since he scored 2 goals for the senior national side.I doubt whether you can get him for anything less than £17million. Rumour has it that we are still looking for a loan deal for Tevez but it seems Inter is his more likely destination

laudate:
For the first time in the history of Nigeria, citizens from various walks of life, were united enough to sink their differences and vote for one man who sold his candidature to the people, and worked hard to bridge the North-South divide. His party fielded a Muslim-Muslim ticket. Yet, people still voted for him, because he represented a different breed from the established cadre of politicians. Like someone said: "Abiola allowed us to rise above ethnic and religious differences ,  ." This to my own mind, was the legacy of June 12.

Abiola spent his time, money & efforts campaigning and meeting with people, in different towns, villages & districts in order to win their support. He did not impose himself on our public conciousness, rather he sought our approval. If he wasn't a democrat, he would not have run such an exhasutive, challenging, all-encompassing campaign, deploying men, materials and personal resources to ensure that everyone knew what he stood for, and spelling out all what he offered. His opponent Bashir Tofa did little by the way of campaigns, believing instead that the strength of the Northern oligarchy would give him victory. 

Your post is long on rhetoric but short on substance. He spent time,money and efforts campaigning to be President.There is nothing special about that.You are just turning logic on its head.

Before he entered the race to become President,he was not known for campaigning for democracy.His record for activism is non-existent.What was his role throughout the military dictatorship that started in 1983?Here is someone whose record as an activist for democracy is non-existent.We are supposed to believe he was a Democrat because of the way he ran for President.If he was not involved personally in the race and someonelse mandate was stolen,I doubt whether he  whether he would have joined those who campaigned against IBB and Abacha.

There is not a shred of evidence from his life history that he had a selfless passion for democracy.Don't tell me he was distrubuting bags of rice   What a country! Distrubuting bags of rice while campaigning for an office would be viewed rightly,in any civilised setting,as sheer bribery.What a strange nation  

@Laudate
What you have to recognise,for someone who once claimed to be a keen observer of Igbos,is that Igboland has a diversity in cultural practices.What may seem normal to one Igbo person may be totally unheard of to another.So when  I or Babyosisi tells you the following

I spent all my life in Igbo land and cannot tell you one family designated as an osu
not even one

You don't respond in the following manner

How odd.   So how come those of us who do not live in Alaigbo have seen families designated as osu & have even witnessed the discrimination they face from their Igbo brethren?

For someone who portrays herself as knowledgeable,there is nothing remotely odd about this.

Nobody here is saying that Osu doesn't exist entirely.We are simply saying its ridiculous verging on the ignorant,to claim that its "odd" for an Igbo person not to know of an Osu.It sure does exist in some parts of Igboland but there is nothing remotely odd in claiming ignorance of an Osu or even in claiming that its not widespread since many of us Igbos who lived long in Igbo land can't identify a single Osu .

To pretend otherwise is either a result of pretentious claims of knowledge in the midst of utter ignorance or simply barely hidden spite.Let me tell you what is  odd,the fact that,like on this thread,most of those who claim to know about the Osu are like you non-Igbos.Now,that is really odd .I guess its the aforementioned keeness 

Barak though a good man was generally perceived as all talk.
You were also economical with the truth  the intifada
started with a certain man through his provocation
on the Temple Mount I think his name is Sharon

There are 2 ways of looking at this matter.Let me  articulate the way I tend to view it.The events of 2000 brought about a fundamental re-alignment of my views of the conflict.Prior to the intifada,I was like most people,very pro-Palestinian.

I followed closely,the negotiations between Arafat and Barak at Camp David.The negotiations seemed to be breaking new grounds as both sides,particularly Isreal,seemed to be prepared for the 1st time,to pull back from traditional "red lines".For instance,Barak offered 90% of the West Bank and East Jerusalem,100% of Gaza and some sort of international sovereignty over the Temple Mount.Barak was also prepared to accept the Palestinan claims to a right of   return for refugees subject to agreement over the precise numbers  that can return per annum.Many people say this wasn't generous enough,but from a pragmatic standpoint,this was as far as Barak could go.

While negotiations were going on,there were reports that the Palestinians were preparing a new intifada(long before Sharon made his visit to Sharam Esh-Sharif).The thinking was that such an uprising would help extract more concessions from Isreal.A new uprising,the thinking went, would prompt heavy handed Isreali response(a PR disaster for Isreal) causing the international community to put pressure on Isreal .

Isreal chastened from its experience in Lebanon,where it had just pulled out,will give more concessions.The Arabs interpreted Isreal's pullout of from Lebanon and their offer to withdraw from most of the occupied territories as a sign of weakness.Arab TV,we had Arabsat then,was filled with callers and pundits claiming that Isreal's pullout from Lebanon was proof that violence was the best way to defeat Isreal.

Then,I dismissed all reports of a planned new Palestinian intifada as Isreali propaganda.A few months later,the intifada started.A lot of people say that the intifada was started simply because Sharon visited the Temple Mount.That's arrant nonsense.Why would the Palestinians start a new campaign of violence just beacuse one opportunistic politician,Sharon, visited the Temple Mount?   Why jeopardise all that landmark negotiations at Camp David,just because of Sharon?

Its either the Palestinians planned it or they are irredeemably irrational.I think its the former because I had heard long before Sharon's visit,that they were looking to launch an uprising.Sharon's visit was just a smokescreen for what they had long wanted.Unfortunately for them,it backfired.Sharon,of course,knew that the Palestinians,were planning an uprising and calculated presciently,that a symbolic act (visiting the Temple Mount) could be used  by the Palestinians as an excuse to do what they always planned,launch an intifada.He calculated rightly,that such an uprising will harden Isreali opinion and be a springboard for him to become PM.The rest is history.

They say the Palestinians "never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity".2000 was a classic example.I feel the root cause of the Palestinian malaise,is an unwilligness to live side by side with Isreal.They still harbour dreams of destroying Isreal.Remember it was only till 1989,that the PLO officially recognised Isreal's right of existence.Till then,there position was that Isreal must be destroyed.

When people say that Isreal must return to the pre-1967 borders.They forget that in 1967,Isreal offered withdrawal but the Arabs responded with the 3 NOs-No Recognition,No Negotiations,No Peace. We also know that prior to 1967,there was no peace anyway.As noted by C.May, Nasser noted then,that a state of war against Isreal had been “in effect since 1948,” the moment modern Israel was born amid the carnage of World War II, on lands ruled by the Ottoman Turks for most of the past four centuries. It would continue, he and the leaders in Khartoum implied, until Israel was destroyed.

The biggest obstacle today is the same obstacle we had 40 years ago as embodied in the Khartoum Resolution,the refusal of Arab and Muslim leaders to countenance a state as their neighbour,which is not ruled by Arabs or Muslims.Untill that changes,there is no hope for longlasting peace.

Tornadoz:
I see I-man has modified his position to reflect the present situation in Palestine. He's now saying the Jews won't negotiate with the Palestinians because of the situation in Gaza. Did the Jews negotiate when there was peace in Gaza. Why is Israel and its supporters always looking for new ways of deferring the road map? They always find a minute excuse, today Arafat, tomorrow Hamas etc.

Of course,Isreal and the Palestinians have had a history of negotiations stretching back decades-Oslo,Camp David,Wye River,e.t.c .

We can go down history.Do you remember the 3 NOs? After the 6 day war,Isreal offered the Arabs land they had just captured in return for peace,The Arab reponse at the Khartoum summit was-No recognition of Isreal,No negotiations,No peace with Isreal(The 3 NOs).40 years later,a Benin man is now informing us that Isreal never wanted negotiations.

And who created this enviroment of tension in Gaza?

That's right!Blame the Jews.Don't the Palestinians have a mind of their own.Must they kill each other because Isreal "created an environment of tension"?   The blame lies solely on the warring parties,especially Hamas.Why didn't Hamas respect respect the ceasefire agreement they were party to?How come they were shooting aand killing Palestinian peace protesters who were marching for peace?I thought it was only Isreal that doesn't want peace.

Aproko:
i wonder what one man wants to do with so many houses!!! how many would he live in at once? why can't people learn to rip only where they have sown? na wah oh!!

He is acquiring for future generations as well

Thought Mamajama said those journalists will be arrested on Monday(3 days ago)

ThiefOfHearts:
4Play, you no dey answer question jare. Point is they don't even cheat on their wives with women who cook or cook better, they go around snobby small girls who can't even soak garri.

Don't ask me.We  cheat with women who can cook proper egusi/ogbono/ okro soup   Just kidding