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OkCornel:
Do you follow news in the middle east at all?

Read up on the Temple movement in Israel

U don't follow news at all...the location of the Mosque in Israel (the second most holy location of Islam) is the original site of the temple. For Israel to build a new temple...that mosque must be destroyed...I can tell u boldly...that is impossible...
Like I always tell u...Israel is no more a precious jewel or our map...it is we Christians and the gospel to the world as our map.

Be wise man

OkCornel:
Hope2014 and immaculatesense,

Kindly point out the ruler in history that;

1. Had a covenant with many for 7 years and broke it mid-way.
2. Bring the abomination that causes desolation which Daniel, Jesus and Apostle Paul spoke of in Daniel 9 v 27, Matthew 24 v 15 and 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4?


How difficult is it for you both to comprehend that it's this 7 year covenant which kicks off the last week of Daniel's prophecy?

27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

Please name that leader that had a covenant with many for one 'seven' abeg. I'm waiting

I av explained dat to u...don't be a forgetful learner...and don't be lazy to go over this thread again...I took my time in one of my post to explain the WHOLE chapter 9 of Daniel to u verse by verse...go to that post and read...okay?

Kobojunkie:
And the temple was also destroyed about 2000 years ago too, or are you insinuating it will be rebuilt and destroyed again?

Wonderful question

OkCornel:
Nah, you're still struggling with basic logic hence you're confused with the context.

1. Is the beast the Antichrist? Yes or No.
2. Anyone who opposes Christ, are they AntiChrists? Yes or No.

It's straightforward, the answer to both questions is yes.

But if something so basic is still confusing to you, well I can't help your level of understanding, if you can't get the context.

And I am telling u the beast is not the Antichrist. U know why...the Antichrist (which is a spirit) is already in the world...the beast has not come.
1 John 4:3
[3]bSuch a person has the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard is coming into the world and indeed is already here.

OkCornel:
Where does your 62 x 7 stop in history?

Daniel 9 v 26-27;

25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble.
26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

U just quoted scriptures...dats not an answer...answer him straight up

OkCornel:
Please tell us which ruler in history made a covenant WITH MANY, broke it mid-way and desecrated the temple?

Are you still struggling to connect the dots?
1. Daniel 9 v 27
2. 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4
3. Revelation 11 v 1-2
4. Matthew 24 v 15

It's one ruler that will fulfill all these verses, not some of it.



You need to up your study in eschatology. It's obvious you're struggling with the basics and cannot see the patterns.

Guy...u mentioned eschatology?
I gave u chronology of incidence...u gave none...no history...no partway to future...no notin...all the force passages u mentioned above does not even say dsame tin at all...chai...maybe ur Bible is different sha

Hope2014:
Jesus Christ will be killed again.....

The same question I asked him ooo...please help me ask OkCornel ooo...
He will tell u time PAUSED

OkCornel:
It's the same person bros.

Read Daniel 9 v 26 -27;
26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. THE END will come like a flood: War will continue until THE END, and desolations have been decreed.
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.


Look at the parts I bolded, WHAT END was referred to there?

Sir...are u sure we are reading the same Bible...Daniel 9 said he(the ruler) will make treaty with the people. But Revelation did not say the beast will make any treaty with anybody but instead FORCE people to receive his mark.

Sir...WHAT ARE U SAYING GANGAN...What Bible do u read sef? The more u speak...d more disappointed I am...I thought we are having healthy conversation...but since I started asking my own question...u av bn as UNSTABLE in ur answer as a leave on the sea.
I gave u chronology...ur claiming it's a coincidence...I ask u to tell us ur own u say Antichrist is Satan, Antichrist is beast, Antichrist is false prophet...ahhh...

Maybe I shud just free u...GOOD DO MORE RESEARCH SIR...IT WILL HELP U.
STAY BLESSED
AM OUT COS AM BORED

OkCornel:
It is both. Understand the context. It's in the screenshot.

"The" AntiChrist (the beast)

AntiChrist (anyone who opposes Christ)

Sir...first and foremost dictionary is ur source...okay no wahala...
In ur source(dictionary)...I did not see beast?...I only saw wat I av bn telling u...people that oppose Christ.

ARE YOU CONFUSED?
YOU SOUND WEARY

OkCornel:
I'm not obsessed with the beast. He's merely a pawn in the grand scheme of things. He will show up, play his role and be destroyed alongside this faulty world system.

All those speculations he's Obama, Trump etc is rubbish. But he will be easily identifiable when;
1. The covenant "with many" is in place. He will arrange for the covenant - Daniel 9 v 27
2. He desecrates the temple
3. The two witnesses arise to oppose him and his government.
4. And he kills the two witnesses subsequently.


Are you aware of any leader in the past that ticked these four attributes?

My guy...u still come fall my hand again?
Does the description of the beast in Revelation looks like dat of the ruler Daniel describe in chapter 9?...guy why na...from man to beast? Why na?
Two of those prophesy were of Daniel and were fulfilled...two were of John and as at the time or record...yet to be fulfilled. ANSWERED

Whereas I am still waiting for ur grand answer ooo...u said u would give me answer on my COINCIDENCE questions.

I AM STILL WAITING OOO

OkCornel:
Look at the screenshot again. Your answer is there.


Antichrist is interchangeably used with the beast who is the personal opponent to Christ at the end of the age.

Antichrist in the wider context is anyone who opposes Christ.

In the wider context. Satan the dragon is also Antichrist (note, not THE Antichrist) as he’s in opposition to Christ.

Basic logic and straightforward context.

If you can’t get this, then it’s fruitless discussing further with you.

I don’t know where on this thread I ever claimed the dragon and false prophet(s) are not antichrists.

Enough of the strawman argument. The answer is in the screenshot.

Dear OkCornel
Chill na...abah...I want to understand u...who is Antichrist simple...I believe it is the spirit of Satan,beast,false prophet and they use it to make people antagonize Christ. If u bliv the same...no further argument...but to say he is a man(to be born) who will rule the world.

Which of this two do u bliv?
U can see it's simple that I want to understand u

OkCornel:
Ogbeni, anyone who is against Christ is Antichrist. Like it’s so basic.

Why do you hastily assume on things I don’t conclude on? Can you point out where I said the dragon and false prophet(s) are not Antichrists?
You know what I mean, but you’re eager to score cheap points.
The Antichrist is also the beast and vice versa. I use that interchangeably.
If you can’t understand it, then proceeding with our discussion is fruitless.

See the screenshot below for the different contexts to the word Anti Christ which further clarifies my point.

Context 1 - The personal opponent (that is the beast)
Context 2 - Anyone/force in opposition to Christ

Don't get excited over nothing.

If u claim the Antichrist is the beast...tell me more about the Antichrist...I am interested...will he be born(I av heard many names like pope John Paul,Obama,Trump etc) or wer will he come from...? Cos I know the beast will not be born like many people claim the Antichrist will be born.
Is the beast already alive now cos John told us that the Antichrist is already around. So,why are the features of the two so different scripturally?
1 John 4:3
[3b]Such a person has the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard is coming into the world and indeed is already here.

OkCornel:
Ogbeni, anyone who is against Christ is Antichrist. Like it’s so basic.

Why do you hastily assume on things I don’t conclude on? Can you point out where I said the dragon and false prophet(s) are not Antichrists?
You know what I mean, but you’re eager to score cheap points.
The Antichrist is also the beast and vice versa. I use that interchangeably.
If you can’t understand it, then proceeding with our discussion is fruitless.

See the screenshot below for the different contexts to the word Anti Christ which further clarifies my point.

Context 1 - The personal opponent (that is the beast)
Context 2 - Anyone/force in opposition to Christ

Don't get excited over nothing.

My Guy...didn't I show u before that Antichrist is a spirit that dwells in people that violently reject Christ from the beginning of our conversation...but u insisted he is a person(singular). I showed u 1john...but u no bliv but u bliv in dictionary that even affirm wat John said.
1 John 2:18,22
[18]Dear children, the last hour is here. You have heard that the Antichrist is coming, and already many such antichrists have appeared. From this we know that the last hour has come.
[22]And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist.

U said Antichrist is Dragon,beast and false prophet.
I now asked u...is Antichrist who to u is a person greater than Satan because I know Satan is the dragon.
Abi Satan is not the dragon to u...u no answer.

I asked u...who is the Antichrist?
His he Satan? Beast? Or False prophet?or the combination of all...u no answer

Answer ooo

OkCornel:
After the government of the antichrist (beast, false prophet and the dragon) is conquered at the war of Armageddon, only then can all these be achieved.

Lol...ur changing mouth small small...now ur saying the Antichrist is the combination of Satan,beast and false prophet?) Cos in case u don't know...the dragon is Satan...

Or do u want to say the dragon is not Satan?
If the dragon is Satan...is the Antichrist greater than Satan and the combination of the three...
Don't be confused bro...
Let me here ur reply

OkCornel:
Very easy questions. Got my hands full. I'll be back to answer them...whilst you prepare answers to my questions as well.

I will be waiting

OkCornel:
When the lawless one enters the temple and declares himself God.

Paul explained this in 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4

Dear OkCornel
I kept correcting u...but u don't take to it...the Antichrist is a spirit. Do u compare scriptures at all? Let me do it for u...maybe for the last time u can understand 2thess 2:1-12
Let me show u how to interpret scriptures...let's compare similarities.May Hope2014 can also learn too.
The question is who is the Man of Lawlessness? You say the Antichrist...I say the Beast.
I will proof mine with the scriptures u should proof URS too. Let's use Thessalonians and Revelation...let's compare.
2 Thessalonians 2:9-11
[9]This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles.
[10]He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.
[11]So God will cause them to be greatly deceived, and they will believe these lies.

According to the above verse...the man of Lawlessness will do the work of Satan and will do signs and miracle abi and the people will believe him abi. Compare it with
Revelation 13:3
Revelation 13:3-4,8
[3]I saw that one of the heads of the beast seemed wounded beyond recovery—but the fatal wound was healed! The whole world marveled at this miracle and gave allegiance to the beast.
[4]They worshiped the dragon for giving the beast such power, and they also worshiped the beast. “Who is as great as the beast?” they exclaimed. “Who is able to fight against him?”
[8]And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life that belongs to the Lamb who was slaughtered before the world was made.

According to the above verse...the beast will do miracle and decieve people meant for destruction...they will bliv him and worship him.

From the above...we can see that the beast is the man of Lawlessness that will do the most abominable and blasphemous...that is why he is called the man of Lawlessness or sin...he is the fullness of SIN, ABOMINATION AND BLASPHEMY.

PLEASE OKCORNEL... SHOW US BY COMPARING SCRIPTURES WHERE YOU SEE ANTICHRIST DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE SAINT JOHN EXPLAINED TO US...UNLESS U WANNA ADMIT THAT ANTICHRIST IS THE BEAST THEN AND YOU KNOW THAT WILL GET U HOOKED...AND PLIS DONT ANSWER QUESTION WITH QUESTION TRYING TO DODGE A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
THANK YOU

OkCornel:
Read Matthew 24 v 21,22 & 29;

21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.
22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.

Let me know when these have happened. Don't mistake beginning of birth pangs for the days of unequalled distress.

And I've made my stance on pretribulation rapture clear on this thread and on this forum. It is a false doctrine.


Work beckons, we'll continue in the evening.

I av made myself very clear...it is now time for u to answer pertinent questions.
1) base on the chronology our for father's in faith gave which I also explained...the years btw the decree of Artaxerxes and Christ entering the temple to say "today this scripture is fulfilled...the Lord has Anointed me" been exactly 482years and the destruction of the temple happening in btw the 7 year war. WOULD YOU CALL THOSE A MERE COINCIDENCE?

2)About the tribulation... explain how it will happen(will we be gazing at heaven seeing it pour down both the righteous and the unrighteous),how many years?

3)About the Antichrist...who is he,wen will he come...the Job of Satan,beast and false prophet were outlined by John. Since the Antichrist is different from these three,please wat is his role,his beginning and his end gangan?

4) Explain this verse especially the cap one;
1 John 4:3
[3]But if someone claims to be a prophet and does not acknowledge the truth about Jesus, that person is not from God. Such a person has the SPIRIT OF THE ANTICHRIST, which you heard is coming into the world and INDEED IS ALREADY HERE.

Thank you

OkCornel:
You are conflating salvation for fulfillment of prophecy.

How did the Israelites and Jerusalem achieve the things in Daniel 9 v 24 especially after they outrightly rejected the anointed one (Jesus Christ) and cut him off?

That's the million dollar question. Daniel 9 v 24 was very legible and clear. Daniel's people and the most holy city are to achieve those things, not the anointed one.

Daniel 9 v 24;
24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

The question still stands, at what point were these achieved by the Israelites and Jerusalem?
1. Finish Transgression
2. Put an end to sin
3. Atone for wickedness
4. Bring in EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS
5. Seal up prophecy and vision
6. Anoint the most holy place.

Why do u keep asking questions over and over again
Let me ask u...how did dey reject the Anointed One? They killed him just like Daniel said. I av answered the rest of ur question but if ur not satisfied...it's okay...and I respect that cos I can't be going round the circle over and over again. Thank u

OkCornel:
I have read about it

What connection does it have with the second coming of Christ?

Those days of distress will pale in comparison to the unequalled days of distress in Matthew 24 v 21 & 29

Sir...wat distress are u waiting for again?...is there peace in the world now?...or are u waiting for wen fire will fall from heaven and destroy one third of world population? Won't the saints also be involved if that happens? Unless u bliv in pretribulaton rapture and I don't think so...
It is happening in the world and it will continue to get worse and more unbearable and don't think 666 is literal...No. that a person will come and start giving people mark...it's a lie.people av predicted and failed over the years cos they don't think. 666 is SIN...it will be voluntary or life will be difficult for u...many years ago people do business and make profit but now if u do business faithfully u will know dat it's difficult to make good profit...if u write ur CV without lies...u will know it's difficult to get Job...if ur looking for contract without corruption u will know life is double. A time will come...u won't even be able to feed ursef without sin and it will be very difficult to live righteously without been hated by ur colleagues or even killed so as not to stop them from doing their bidding. Sin is becoming normal now even to Christians...but a time is coming it will become unbearable to live without sin.
I don't really want to talk about Revelation cos it is deep. NOTE: There is not greater mark the devil is known for the SIN(Satan Identity Number)...if 666 is the mark of the beast the SIN at it peak and extreem is sure wat it is.

OkCornel:
The bolded is your insertion into the scriptures. Your position would have had some merit if Daniel 9 v 24 was worded this way,

Daniel 9 v 24;
24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for the anointed one to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

But no, it was worded this way;

Daniel 9 v 24;
24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

You think the all knowing God did not know about all of this when he sent Gabriel to inform Daniel of the 70 weeks' prophecy?

The question still stands, at what point were these achieved by the Israelites and Jerusalem?
1. Finish Transgression
2. Put an end to sin
3. Atone for wickedness
4. Bring in EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS
5. Seal up prophecy and vision
6. Anoint the most holy place.

Let me give you a hint, this can never happen until Jesus Christ is accepted by the nation of Israel as the messiah;

Matthew 23 v 37-39;
37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.
38 Look, your house is left to you desolate.
39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

That is a lie that some teachers have brainwash people about without biblical proof...they will tell u the Jews av a second chance but it's a lie...they were people cherished by God but they lost the privilege and the Lord made the door open wider to them and also the gentiles...they no longer enjoy any grace more than the gentiles...the same door of salvation will be closed at the same time wen Jesus return. Like Paul said...no more Jews,no more gentiles...even Jesus said it that "strangers will enter the kingdom will the sons of the kingdom (Jews) will be casted out"...

Sir,I am a Pentecostal,but I don't let any teaching either Pentecostal or any other make my study of the scriptures subjective or bias...I read and read and study.
Let me repeat.
NO MORE JEWS NO MORE GENTILES.

And for where u highlighted in Daniel 9...those were the requirements for them to maintain their standing in God's place...but they failed and Christ came and opened the door to the gentiles and the Jews ALIKE...

God be with u

OkCornel:
Matthew 24 v 29
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’


This passage clearly shows those days of unequalled distress is yet to manifest. Spanish flu, or the bubonic plague or the world wars ain’t it…

Av u read about the dark age before? How the sun did not shine in a larger part of Europe for months or years? Have u research at all.
Let me ask u a simple question?...how do u tink those tribulations will happen... simultaneously? All of us will be gazing at heaven and it will be pouring down? Within a year? Seven years?... Come off it bro...not like dat...how do u tink the world kept getting worse by the day?...

OkCornel:
Sure thing. Immaculatesense, please take note

I am not a stalker...I don't even av time...he is a JW and u know they don't like their false teaching bn exposed with biblical proof...wen they run out of stock...they result to asking u no to quote them...but as biblical christians that is not subjective to denomination...it is difficult for us to stand wen heresy is bn fed to people on a wide forum as this...since people pick their thoughts from such forum.
Ask him to stop posting his heresy here.Let him keep them for his fellow JW people. As long as he doesn't do dat...I and many others will be here to refute their heresy.
Thank u

OkCornel:
Brother, did you read the bolded parts of Daniel 9 v 24? It’s the Israelites and Jerusalem that were decreed to achieve those things spelt out in there. You’ve switched the subject to Jesus who was cut off and rejected by these same people anyways.

How and when did the Israelites and Jerusalem achieve these things in Daniel 9 v 24?

1. Finish Transgression
2. Put an end to sin
3. Atone for wickedness
4. Bring in EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS
5. Seal up prophecy and vision
6. Anoint the most holy place.

Exactly why I said u don't read...u don't link all my comments that's why u understand each one separately instead of jointly...since the Jews through Judaism failed to meet these above requirement...the Anointed One came to fulfil them and he became the righteousness of God. He who reads should be able to understand na...do u want me to explain the whole salvation plan of God for u since the Jewish one failed?
Romans 8:3-4
[3]The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature. So God did what the law could not do. He sent his own Son in a body like the bodies we sinners have. And in that body God declared an end to sin’s control over us by giving his Son as a sacrifice for our sins.
[4]He did this so that the just requirement of the law would be fully satisfied for us, who no longer follow our sinful nature but instead follow the Spirit.

OkCornel:
The person who will kill the two witnesses and desecrate the temple is the beast. There goes your answer.

Exactly ur right...now tell me wat is the role of the Antichrist in all these? Since he is not the Satan,the beast and the false prophet who would play the roles in the end and be cast into the lake of fire...or did Revelation also say the Antichrist will be captured and thrown into the lake with them?...cos I did not read John said that? Since the Antichrist is not Satan,beast or false prophet?

OkCornel:
Hope 2014 - Matthew 24 v 9 speaks of persecution which is actually different from Matthew 24 v 21-22, which is yet to happen.

Matthew 24 v 9;
9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.

This has happened, and still happening…

Matthew 24 v 21-22

21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened

This is yet to happen…

Lol...dear Hope2014 and OkCornel...
9"were the Apostles not all killed...is the killings not ongoing now?

21" was the 1914 world war and the 1945 world war 2 not the greatest and most fearful in man's history? Millions died to the Spanish flu(the worst death to sickness in man's history minus Africa dat has no data at the time ooo"

22"the word shorten means reduce or brought to a fast end...the Spanish flu for instance just disappeared into thin air...no cure and no one knows how...it was shortened cos dat sickness claim 50 million lives imagine it can kill the whole world but it was shortened...the world war was shortened so also is the second world war...they all av the ability to bring the world to an end but because the elect av not all bn sealed...they were all shortened. The tribulation as always bn ongoing and the second coming of christ will bring an end to that.
I love u all

OkCornel:
So the Antichrist who will make war with the two witnesses and kill them in Revelation 11. Has that happened already? Is that Antichrist not a single man?

The Antichrist who will desecrate the temple as Paul explained in 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4, is that not a single man?

Context is key.

OkCornel...guy...I told u I don't want to delve into Revelation...but let me give u a clue...Satan the devil will form his own trinity himself,the Beast and the false prophet...at that time will 2thessalonia and Revelation will be fulfilled. Let me ask u...is Antichrist the Satan, or the Beast or the False prophet?...ur answer to this question will make u understand that 2thessalonia very well.
Thank u

OkCornel:
I saw it. It didn’t answer the questions spot on.

For example;

1. When was the most holy place anointed? The answers I saw there were;

A) The most holy (not the most holy place o) was anointed was referring to Christ. Or

B) Christ is the holy of Holies…hence, that is how the “most holy place” is anointed.

The question was on “ when the most holy place was anointed” not “when the most Holy person was anointed”

2) When was prophecy and vision sealed up? No direct answer to this. And just to add, prophecies on the second coming of Christ is yet to be fulfilled!

3) When was EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS brought in?

The answer there was about preaching of everlasting righteousness, rather than when everlasting righteousness would actually be a reality in Jerusalem and by extension, the world.

Everlasting righteousness can only be brought in when the millennial kingdom commences, and Christ rules the nations with a rod of iron. This is yet to happen.

So please, my 6 questions from Daniel 9 v 24 still stands. At what point in history were these achieved by the Jews and inhabitants of the city of Jerusalem?

1. Finish Transgression
2. Put an end to sin
3. Atone for wickedness
4. Bring in EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS
5. Seal up prophecy and vision
6. Anoint the most holy place.

Dear OkCornel
That's why I said...u didn't take ur time to read my write up...if u had...u would av broaden ur knowledge and no one is showing ego here...
I used this verse for you when Jesus first proclaim himself as the Anointed One.
Luke 4:17-18
[17]The scroll of Isaiah the prophet was handed to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where this was written:
[18]“The Spirit of the lord is upon me,
    for he has anointed me to bring Good News to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim that captives will be released,
    that the blind will see,
that the oppressed will be set free,
   
From the period the king Arterxerxes made d declaration to build Jerusalem and the temple to this time Jesus entered the temple in 30CE,Historians revealed it was 483 years (according to Daniel's seven of seven plus sixty two of seven =483year)

Jesus became the everlasting righteousness of God and mankind that was BROUGHT IN to the temple to declare the ACCEPTABLE YEAR of the Lord.

OkCornel
I understand the millennium year reign of Christ and it's yea and Amen...no doubt about that...but the point is that John talked about the millennium reign...it is yea and Amen. But the bone of contention here is...did Daniel chapter 9 talk of the Millennium reign or the rebuilding/destruction and the coming of the Anointed One? The answer is...Daniel in chapter 9 does not talk about the Millennium reign in any of the verses but talked about the rebuilding/destruction and the coming of the Anointed One...since that is wat he was praying about from verse 1-14.

Thank u

Hope2014:
Please which 70 weeks prophecy. After Rapture is tribulation vials of wrath then I think Jesus is coming to commit mass genocide to welcome in the millennial reign, after the millennial reign then another mass burnings and burial to welcome judgement day. The only thing I don't know is will things be very hard after Rapture like food and water??

Dear Hope2014
Let no one decieve u of expected a future tribulations... tribulations had started a very very long time ago...do u think the tribulations in Revelation will happen in the space of one year? Seven years? NO!...if u read very well those tribulations that will follow after each trumpet and bowls...do u know how many people in man history have died due to famine? Do u know how many had died due to sickness? Do u know how many had died due to war or terror?...the tribulations has started a long time ago...the end of tribulations will Mark the peaceful reign of Christ that will begin with the Ressurrection of the living and the dead. Don't let anyone decieve you...

OkCornel:
The Lawless One is the AntiChrist

It's a treaty with Israel and rival nations which will usher a period of peace. Israel would be betrayed, as the covenant would be broken mid-way, the temple desecrated...and that'll usher in the time of Jacob's trouble, and by extension...the great tribulation around the world.

Dear OkCornel
I have told u...the Antichrist is not a person but spirit. All the verses that talk about the Antichrist never revealed it has person but spirit/ideology. It is only saint John that talk about Antichrist...go and read 1John very well. The wicked on which is the beast is a very different character on it own...but since that is in the book of Revelation...I won't delve into it at all.
Below are ALL the verses that talked about Antichrist in the WHOLE Bible;even John told us in 1john4:3 that the Antichrist is already in the world. So,tell me...wat Antichrist are u expecting again?
1 John 2:18,22
[18]Dear children, the last hour is here. You have heard that the Antichrist is coming, and already many such antichrists have appeared. From this we know that the last hour has come.
[22]And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist.
1 John 4:3
[3]But if someone claims to be a prophet and does not acknowledge the truth about Jesus, that person is not from God. Such a person has the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard is coming into the world and indeed is already here.
2 John 1:7
[7]I say this because many deceivers have gone out into the world. They deny that Jesus Christ came in a real body. Such a person is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Stay BLESSED.

OkCornel:
Now let’s rewind to Daniel 9 v 24. At the end of the 70 weeks, certain things are meant to be fulfilled by the Jews and inhabitants of Jerusalem namely;

1. Finish Transgression
2. Put an end to sin
3. Atone for wickedness
4. Bring in EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS
5. Seal up prophecy and vision
6. Anoint the most holy place.


At what point in history where these achieved? If you insist the 70 weeks prophecy has elapsed.

Did u even see my last post on Daniel? Before I post that one on Matthew?...it's just the second to my last comment...go and read it...I took all the time to explain the whole Daniel 9 from verse 1-27...and I answered All those ur six questions there.
With all the historical proves I revealed there,no one can reasonably question those fact unless the person want to claim that those timing were here Coincidence...and that will be some kind unreasonable...so,go check it out and quote me on it and ask questions. I am here.

MaxInDHouse:
Since you agree with Jesus oya present a better performing group than JWs!

Dear MaxinDHouse
Do u now see wat I am opening ur eyes to see?...I just stumbled on this thread and I read through...@courz has said all that I av bn refraining myself from saying cos I don't like throwing tantrums...you kept asking him to tell u another option better than JW. He referred u to
John 4:23-24
[23]But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.
[24]For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”

There is no option to Jesus...it is a service of individual in truth and spirit. All these founders of Catholic, Anglican, Pentecostal, Baptist,JW and wat av u have all failed. There history and foundational teachings are ALL questionable.
We shouldn't be more inclined on denomination...we should focus on individuals relationship with God. When a denomination was attend dish our a teaching...we shouldn't just accept in order to show allegiance...we need to compare then with the scriptures and test every spirit(teaching and doctorine) and lay hold on the truth no matter who it is coming from.
Acts of the Apostles 17:11
[11]And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul’s message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.

Like I always say...u av the potentials...don't subjectively restrict ursef
PEACE

OkCornel:
I'll reply you after working hours today.

Do have a productive day ahead.

Amen...and you too
Thanks alot for the good wish
I will be waiting for ur reply