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achorladey:
Abi ooo, Russell will be shaking his head as to what he set up before his death had become.

MaxInDHouse:
You're a LIAR!

Jesus confirmed that there will be false prophets and they will deceive many!
So all these different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines can't be for the same Jesus because he wanted all his friends globally to have the same line of thought {John 17:22} and that they must love their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} and there must be love among themselves {John 13:34-35} you and i know that all these will make Jesus liar if you his disciples in different countries join the political elements of this world and start killing one another!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i have told that when JWs are talking about our book (Bible) humble yourself and learn not argue stupidly.

The WORLD means people who are ignorant of God's plan about Christ's Kingdom they are still agitating among themselves about who is their rightful ruler/leader but God's people are only interested in the preaching and teaching campaign Christ gave us as assignment.

Now that may seem as if we neglect important things like what is affecting everyone around us when people are voting in or voting out one man and the other, but then all the people in the world are fighting and killing themselves over this issue {Revelations 6:3-4} Jesus' order to us is to love our neighbours as ourselves and love our fellow believers just as Christ loves us.
That is why all of you can't decipher why only JWs do relate peacefully with all people and most especially our fellow believers in other countries but you people can't even when you want to relate peacefully with your fellow Churchgoers in other countries.
Take for instance the ongoing case between Russia and Ukraine, the current President of Russia banned JWs in 2017 and ever since then it has become a crime to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses in that country.
Nobody knew Putin's plan when he started attacking the JWs but today the whole world can see the reason! JWs are PREACHING and TEACHING everywhere we are for peaceful coexistence as in love for neighbours but Putin wants Russians to view Ukrainians as enemies so if he should allow JWs to continue in their preaching most loyal citizens may feel weak not to join Putin in attacking Ukraine so the best thing for him to do is ban this group that's preaching what will not allow his people join him in killing their neighbours in Ukraine.

So if you people are blind towards the sacred secrets of God's Kingdom we are not!
Jesus talking about the WORLD means political elements of the world, no Russian or Ukrainian will lift up weapons against one another if all of them are Jehovah's Witnesses but because they've been carried away with worldly philosophies your so called christians in Russian and Ukraine will carry weapons and kill one another!

That's why Jesus told Pontius Pilate saying:

"My Kingdom (government) is no part of this world" John 18:36

Can you join Jesus in saying the same thing if you're into politics?

Ọmọ abeg when JWs are interpreting the word of our God just keep shut and learn for your own good, stop deceiving yourself!

MaxInDHouse:
God bless you jàre for the highlighted but i will mention more than one performance of the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught!

[1] When Jesus commanded his disciples to go out there and make disciples he actually set the pace for making disciples which is going from house to house and door to door {Matthew 10:11-13} this will make it really difficult for any of his followers to be a thug or trouble maker in the society {1Peter 2:12} that's why you can't remember JWs being protesters or thugs in our society today!

[2] Jesus taught his followers to stay away from politics because that's the only excuse people make for justifying innocent people {John 15:19; 17:14} so when racism leads to fighting and killings in the society where all other religions are involved JWs are neutral!

[3] Jesus taught his followers not to revenge but wait for God's Kingdom to set matters straight {Matthew 5:39-42} that's why JWs won't support anyone who wants to revenge no matter what happens we sue for peace! Matthew 26:52

[4] Jesus insisted that his followers must love their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} but in the midst of his disciples they must love fellow believers much more. How? Just as he loves them! John 13:34-35; 15:12-13
This makes JWs preaching and teaching in all our neighbourhood hoping to help us and as for love among JWs even the whole world know that JWs love their fellow believers!

[5] Jesus taught and prayed for his disciples to have the same line of thought on sacred matters {John 17:22} only JWs are known globally for having a unique teaching so no matter where you go on this planet you will recognize a JW by their oneness!

[6] The reason why God sent Jesus is to make a global family of peace loving worshipers with his wonderful counsel {Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Isaiah 9:6} so after preaching and teaching his ideas must be taken round the globe and what will be the expected result?
People from different races throughout the world will come together under one umbrella, they will use God's word (not politics) to make rules within themselves, they will resolve all their racial disparities, they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will stop producing weapons and vowed never to learn war anymore! Micah 4:1-3

So despite the fact that the Watchtower has gathered sinners (imperfect humans) from all the nations of the earth and we know them in our neighborhood that they're just people like all of us, something like a spirit has help them to produce all the aforementioned just as Jesus Christ promised saying:

By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

YES! Despite being imperfect like all of us this group has achieved a lot with the same kinds of people you can find in different geographical locations on this planet.

Surely no false religion can produce such fine WORKS! James 2:18-26

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

GoodIsGod:
No! Jesus is not the servant of Jehovah. Jesus is the son of God. I am different from my father's servants. My father's servants are servants while I am the son.

You said Jesus was a Jehovah's witness. Yes Jesus was a Jehovah's witness like every other genuine Christian among who you guys in your arrogance and self-righteousness named Christiandom. Because you believe they are evil.

You ignorantly likened other christians to the scribes and the Pharisees not knowing you people are the ones behaving like the Pharisees.
What did the Pharisees do? They have self-righteousness and Pride like Jehovah's witnesses.
Like you accuse other christians of equating Jesus to God, the Pharisees accused Him of the same.

While He Himself has made us to know that "if you have seen me you have seen the father... I am in the father and the father is in me"
Another place he did what only God can do. He forgave sin!
"For you to know that the son has power to forgive sin" , "your sins are forgiven"

Another place he said, "Whatsoever you ask the father in my name, the same I will do"
Not the same the father will do. But the same I will do.
Why should I ask someone a thing and another will give me? Because I am asking the same person.

Never make Jesus look like a servant He is the Son of God. Who the Father has given all power. (Total Trust)

MaxInDHouse:
FINE WORKS only seen among JWs?



I don't want useless arguments, produce a better performing group than what i presented about JWs!

achorladey:
It is the concept called "ORGANIZATION" which is equal to "GOD" sold to them by their religious leaders that is the main problem. Until their members start to rethink that concept will they know where they are in the scheme of things.

And Peter, having opened the mouth, said, "Of a truth I understand that God is not One who shows partiality,but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy enough of this bull crap the Israelites were God's people and they made lots and lots of errors including many of their prophets yet you're clinging to their book today because that's the one and only organization God chose back then.
Today JWs have produced lots of fine WORKS so if your own religion has failed in producing such fine WORKS it's none of my business.
Whether they make mistakes or not the point is they've achieved what Jesus promised.
Period!

MaxInDHouse:
Balaam offered sacrifices to which God?
Whatever your submission is none of my business Jesus has an organization and that organization need to be IDENTIFIED in the midst of over 41,000 different sects claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
That's why He spoke about his group that people will notice throughout the world {Matthew 5:13-16} surely no group has measured up to that standard except the JWs that's why all of you are silent about your sects as you can't present the WORKS expected of faith being done in those religions.

When Jesus said "by their FRUITS you will know them" he's referring to different sects claiming denominations but each group has it's fruit just like a tree, you can't speak against a group producing fine fruit simply because they made mistakes because all groups are formed by imperfect humans but only the group having the backing of God's Holy Spirit can produce the FRUIT of faith despite the fact that members are imperfect like all other religions.

Can a good tree produce routine fruit?
Jesus is asking you, if you can't find a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses then never equate the tree with any other tree. Speak of the tree under which you're working! Matthew 7:16-18

MaxInDHouse:
Despite all these stories about their mistakes that's the one and only organization promoting LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23}
So are they perfect humans? NO!
Are they meeting up with expectations? YES!

God promised that his people will gather millions throughout the earth and erase politics, racism and military services among themselves, and in replacement of that they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will no longer produce weapons neither will they learn wars anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Despite all the mistakes you're talking about only this group has produced this out of all the religions claiming Christians throughout the earth.
So if your religion has failed you don't think ours is the same as yours, God's people are progressing in producing the fruitage of FAITH no matter their past errors!

Janosky:
Oga, use your Bible answer these questions....
John 21:15-17, Jesus loves Peter so much & gave him a Special assignment.
Galatians 2:11-14 & Matthew 26:69-75, Oga how many times did Peter betray Jesus & practice Racism & LYING?
Luke 24:21,25 is it funny that Jesus call the disciples "Foolish"?
Is Nigeria among the 20 Most Developed Country as prophecied by your reverred god of men in 2010?
According to the screenshots, are your fellow 3 deities worshippers worthy examples of genuine Christlike living?

JWs are not infallible, but we are exceptional.
Do anyhow & receive discipline, 1 Corinthians 5:1-13.
Jehovah God doesn't pamper unrepentant sinners.
Oga, face your Christendom and clean out the rafters inside.

achorladey:
God will overlook the mistakes of your religious organization and keep approving them but

that same God will not overlook the mistakes of other Christian denominations and keep approving them despite being in existence long before yours which is just +/-140 years and that same God will kill members of other Christian denominations over their mistakes abi?

Apply intelligence, that same God Peter said is not PARTIAL apply intelligence except the God under discussion is different

achorladey:
That they even went ahead to publish a book titled

"Pure worship restored at last"


should tell you the whole story about the organisation and its agenda regarding interpretation of the scripture when they knew

James 1:27 states....

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Emphasis on ONESELF not GROUPSELF or ORGANIZATION SELF or DENOMINATION SELF

Their religious leaders aka governing body have said they are not inspired and make mistakes and errors in doctrines and organization directions in reality they cannot be trustworthy regarding interpretation of the scriptures. The reason you see them hiding behind light getting brighter or present truth becoming past truth and even projecting future truth.

MaxInDHouse:
Name just one servant of God that spoke against Jerusalem claiming there is worship elsewhere approved by God!
God only approve the worship of one organization never has Her approved two at a time no matter the error of His servants God only corrects them as long as they're willing to make amendments and that's exactly what the Watchtower organization is doing no wonder all of you can't find another group producing the same kind of fruit like Jehovah's Witnesses!


God is the Creator of all but when it comes to worship He specified how things should be done and only the organization practicing it He approves not all organisations that's why He's been fighting in support of Israel!

We know your churches has disappointed you people that's what Jesus meant when he said:

Then they will start saying to the mountains, ‘Fall over us!’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us over!’
You guys are ashamed of your religions that has failed you so none of you can boldly speak in the public about your so called churches the same way JWs do! Revelations 6:16

But as for us we have every reason to rejoice over God's organization because we are producing the fruitage of FAITH just as it's written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3

We're not saying there is no mistakes but the mistakes doesn't mean our God will approve any other form of worship apart from Watchtower, that's why none of you can present a better performing group despite all your arguments!

MaxInDHouse:
I believe there's just one difference between the worshipers of Jehovah and Satan's agents:

Singling out the organization under God's control!

While Satan's agents just feel like all religions should be acceptable after all they all meant to serve the same God, Jehovah's worshipers are keenly interested in IDENTIFYING the group or organization under God's control.

Cain and Abel offered sacrifices to the same God but God accepted one and rejected the other, ever since then lovers of God have always been searching for the form of worship acceptable to God and to join those practicing it.
Moses lived in Egypt but he preferred being an Israelite.
Rahab lived in Jericho but preferred being an Israelite.
Ruth the Moabite chose to be an Israelite.
Uriah the Hittite love to be an Israelite even fighting against his own people because he discovered that the Israelites had God's approval.
The Samaritan woman who met Jesus at Jacob's well insisted on knowing which side Jehovah approves is it the worship of Jews or that of the Samaritans or perhaps God approves both after all they're all Israelites.
The Jews that killed Jesus and later started searching for his disciples to eradicate them were doing so because Jesus claimed that only those following him will be saved and that's exactly what his disciples were saying.
Had it been they accepted other religions as fellow believers they won't have any issue with their fellow Jews!


So whenever i find someone arguing against the idea of the only organization practicing pure worship i quickly cut them off my mention, they can't be my brother in the faith. Matthew 12:46-50

Jesus sent me out in search of my lost brothers and sisters are out there practicing different forms of religions Hindu, Buddha, Islam, Christendom, Traditionalists and others.
How do i recognize them?
It's by chatting with them as they insist on one God and one form of worship with which all adherents must have the same line of thought! John 17:22
Once i find such a person i know he/she is one of my lost brothers Jesus asked me to search for, but even though you're worshiping with JWs as long as you feel all forms of worship are OK then you can't be my brother in faith.
Oteneaaron (Courz) is not against JWs because members of the group are committing any evil that's not common in all other religions but he detests the group for insisting that they're the one and only organization of the true God.


So if he had lived back then when most nations were looking forward to exterminate the Israelites for their insistence on being the only organization worshiping the true God oteneaaron (Courz) will surely be among those battle prepared to kill the Israelites even though he had no business with them!

javaguru:
what if you end up loosing more customers in the process of chasing the thief

Janosky:
Oga, I have few questions for you:



Acts 3:13 &Matthew 5:20, did Jesus pledge allegiance to Scribes and Pharisees?

Hebrews 11:25,whom did Moses pledge allegiance to?
Whom did Rahab pledge allegiance to?
2 Chronicles 7:14 & Isaiah 43:10,21,who owns the Group that Moses pledge his allegiance to?

Hebrews 11:25, Will Moses pledge allegiance to Jehovah's people and identify with Pharoah's household?


Courz admitted that his videos and pictures are NOT similar to JWs website videos and you are still

Janosky:
"There is no option to Jesus", Agreed.

"You don't like throwing tantrums,But all your pastorpreneurs and you immaculateSense, have all the Masonic symbols of Pyramids, Cross & Crown in your Church, house & business premises (screenshots).

Courz says "Jehovah is Lucifer" & you Immaculate supporting that blesphemy ?
Your deluded friend,Courz is LYING desperately to ALTER my posts as well as MaxInDHouse & attach FALSE labels to Jehovah's servants & committing blasphemy against Jehovah's name, you believe him.

You are another Courz low grade

Kobojunkie:
1. If you had paid close attention to the details of what the disciples said there in Acts 15, you would have also realized that they meant that to apply only to the Christians who lived there in the Nation of Israel. The Old Law of Moses was given by God as the Constitution of the State of Israel and so those affected by it where the Jewish people whom God gave it to - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - the foreigners who live among them in the Land of Canaan.

God intentionally excluded all other Nations from that Covenant and rightly so. So you living in Nigeria pretending to live by what God has set for the Constitution of the Nation of Israel , do so in ignorance and arrogance of God's Truth..

2. What God's New Covenant Law and Gospel in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, said to you on this matter is instead....
Jesus Christ you are free to eat anything you want and never worry about it being unclean or able to make you unclean , this since it is not what you eat that can make you unclean - Mark 7 vs 9 - 23.

So don't let me shackle you with their lies born of ignorance of the Word of God. Eat all you want to eat and never worry because Jesus Christ us God's Truth, to very Word out of God's mouth by which you are meant to live your very life - Matthew 4 vs 4.

OkCornel:
Good night bro.

OkCornel:
Please where is the 7 year treaty that was broken midway in this long story of yours?

Is it not a joke to claim a covenant with many for 7 years was in place between 66-73CE which was entirely a Jewish Roman war timeframe?

Please how does a 7 year war translate to a 7 year covenant with many that was broken midway?

What sort of upside down analysis is this?

OkCornel:
So...does that mean they are not Jews even with all the genetic testing et al?

You still haven't answered the question. Are they impostors? Yes or No.

OkCornel:
You can't give a direct answer?

Scaredy cat?

OkCornel:
Simple yes or no. Is "European Israel" is impostor?

I wan laugh today

OkCornel:
Revelation 11 v 1-3.

The vision was shown to John over 2 decades after the temple was destroyed

OkCornel:
Wetin this guy dey talk? Which one be European Israel?

Are you implying the ones occupying Israel are impostors?

OkCornel:
Bros, I am still looking for the 7 year peace treaty in this long post of yours o.

Who exactly ratified this treaty "with many" for 7 years?

OkCornel:
Just as how the agitation for Israel to become a nation was wishful thinking a century ago abi?

Like I mentioned earlier, you know nothing about eschatology.

I'm still waiting for that leader that had a covenant with many for 7 years and broke it mid-way o.

OkCornel:
Who doesn't know that?

Please read up on this and clear your ignorance.

https://templeinstitute.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount_and_Eretz_Yisrael_Faithful_Movement

See the progress made so far. The site remains the only bottle neck. Every other thing is in place.

Kobojunkie:
The movement to rebuild the temple no even begin today. It has been on for a very long time.

OkCornel:
Please name the ruler o, let's benchmark history against the scriptures.

Emperor Titus? Nero?