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Praktikals:
Did you miss the part where he said the animal has been destroying their crops? Or perhaps, he should have waited for the Elephant to kill human beings. That Oyinbos do sth does not mean it is right.

Smh.

Anchor84:
i never talked about the odometer rollback or mechanical issue whc could jusy be an Minor or Major, only Said"Minor scratches and dents isn't an issue"no need to Complain about dat den.Talking strictly about the body,whc is wat most Nigerians are always after.Thanks nd have a Nice Day Ahead...

Your exact words were

Minor Body scratches is a normal thing.

I responded with the fact that minor body scratches and dents are not 'normal'.
Then I proceeded to point out the other issues with this vehicle.
I certainly wasn't complaining about anything, if you thought I was then you're not particularly adept at understanding posts. Complaining would imply that I care about your opinions.

I frankly do not. Learn what you can from the thread and move on.

Billyonaire:
Do not call me ignorant, because I am not ignorant. Animals are not food and since you have chosen to eat animals, it is why those who eat animals are always dying young and looking aged with bad skin tones.

Do not get smart with me boy.

Troll.

Billyonaire:
You all are crying and condemning the killing of elephants but in your stew and soup are the corpse of fishes, goats, cows, periwinkles and even chicken and turkey.

To truly feel be free from your hypocrisy, stop eating animals. It is disgusting

You do realize there's a reason CITES, IUCN and the WWF have endangered species lists? Have you ever seen any of the wildlife you mentioned in your rather ignorant post on those lists?

Smh

Anchor84:
Minor Body scratches is a normal thing.

You didn't observe the odometer rollback?
I disagree about the minor DENTS and scratches being 'a normal thing'

Your title reads 2005 Lexus ES300.

Is this an ES300 or an ES330? If you're not sure, a photo of the Engine bay will be of help to you.

You could also post the VIN.

vetrovialMan:
Bros abeg this na front and back view of Lexus Model RX350

because dem put rx350 model for the back of your own no make am RX350.

Haba


How person wan take you seriously when you dont know the model of car you put up for sale

I hope you've learned something from this today. Never be in a haste to comment on topics you do not have enough information about.

Rx450h

The Toyota Harriers. Asian/European alternative names/barging for the rx. They also have their hybrid versions.

Notable mentions. The hybrids.

Rx400h

vetrovialMan:
Don't need to look at the engine bay to tell the difference

i sell cars

Lexus Rx350 North America 2010 till present

Minor changes to the front styling and fascia along the line.

vetrovialMan:
Don't need to look at the engine bay to tell the difference

i sell cars

Lexus rx350 North America 2007-2009

vetrovialMan:
Bros abeg this na front and back view of Lexus Model RX350

because dem put rx350 model for the back of your own no make am RX350.

Haba


How person wan take you seriously when you dont know the model of car you put up for sale

Lexus rx330 North America 2004-2006

vetrovialMan:
Don't need to look at the engine bay to tell the difference

i sell cars

Lexus rx300 Europe/Asia 2003- circa 2006

vetrovialMan:
Bros abeg this na front and back view of Lexus Model RX350

because dem put rx350 model for the back of your own no make am RX350.

Haba


How person wan take you seriously when you dont know the model of car you put up for sale

Lexus rx300. North America 1998-2003

timifakay:
But the person who wants to tell the difference doesn't sell cars and needs a look at the engine to differentiate.
Better still, post the VIN.

That's true, actually. I'm trying to explain stuff to him so he doesn't propagate inaccurate information.

vetrovialMan:
Don't need to look at the engine bay to tell the difference

i sell cars

Please try not to persist in your ignorance and accept my explanation. You clearly know very little about the cars you claim to sell.

vetrovialMan:
Bros abeg this na front and back view of Lexus Model RX350

because dem put rx350 model for the back of your own no make am RX350.

Haba


How person wan take you seriously when you dont know the model of car you put up for sale

This is why it's important to actually know your subject matter before you make posts in public.

The following loosely applies to the Lexus Rx series especially in North America.

Lexus rx300 was produced from circa 1998 to 2003

Lexus rx330 was produced from 2004 to 2006

Lexus rx350 has been in production since 2007 till date.

Lexus rx350 from 2007 till 2009 look exactly the same physically as the Lexus rx330.

To simplify this I've left out the other similar body types like the rx450h and the other hybrids.

gazal55:
Cosplay I expected you to correct me though am just sharing my own perspective. Don't be annoyed bro. Happy sale

That's a mature response. Well done. Just be careful so people don't take advantage of your mileage focus to defraud You.

zenzen:
No issue at all...it’s buy and drive....the mileage is 124k

Don't kid yourself. The true mileage is 221,316.

As for accident free, The damage was mechanical. Minor body scratches too.

ikegwegbe:
2.1m for this car with such mileage, I bow for you

Morning to You.

It's best to have all or at least a significant proportion of the facts about any subject before you make comments pertaining to it.

There are several indices that determine how good a used car is, 'used' because we refer to them as 'tokunbo' then we tend to forget that these are used vehicles.

The mileage is just one factor. The general condition of the vehicle, reasons for sale, title and history, and frame, transmission and engine condition. Of these, the least reliable, especially in Nigeria and much of the other countries where US used vehicles are exported to, are the general aesthetic condition and the mileage.

This is because those can be rather easily manipulated. Odometer rollback isn't a particularly complex process, especially for older, pre-2014 vehicles. Mileage can be a deceptive index if considered separate from the other aspects of the vehicle. In general the higher the mileage, the more wear and tear. In general.

The average annual mileage for a vehicle in North America has been estimated by most quarters to be 15,000 miles(the Americans often don't use the metric system, km). What this means is that a 10 year vehicle would in general have an average mileage of 150,000 miles. In general. Vehicles used as Cabs or other transportation enterprises would have significantly higher figures. Those figures could also be genuinely much less, but that could also be a red flag. It could indicate that an event rendered the vehicle immobile for sometime. Or it could just mean that the vehicle was genuinely not used much.

In the above case, other things such as absence of accidents and presence of a clean title or history, coupled with the genuinely low mileage, the vehicle in question would cost significantly more than other vehicles in its class and category.

The general condition can also be repaired and a fresh paint coat slapped on the vehicle.

In assessing a North American used vehicle, when you obtain a VIN report such as Carfax, it provides an approximate but detailed history of the vehicle. This helps to create a better picture of its condition, and gives you an idea what it's mileage should be. This, coupled with a professional physical inspection including engine tests should suffice to assess the vehicle holistically.

The above applies to vehicles from North America. For Europe and most of Asia, they aren't as adept as record keeping. Even the vehicle VINs are often not standard 17 digit numbers and may not be found on any database anywhere, so there may be no history available.

In that case professional physical inspection is most important. The mileage should only be factored in if it were excessively high, like a 10 year vehicle from Germany with 300,000 miles.

We need to be realistic and gain some knowledge about vehicle sales and imports to enable us ask the right questions. You should not, in your search for Vehicles, be guided solely by the mileage.

That would lead you to situations you would probably come to regret.

bomis2014:
Good morning

You still haven't responded to my inquiry

kpompey:
I read your comments and they made me laugh for your show of foolishness which were well emphasized even from your write up. A vain man brag but a modest man keeps quiet.I don't need to consult the dictionary or my young brother at home to offer you a feedback.So far, I can see how hungry you are which automatically made you angry,if I count my blessings here, I doubt it,if you won't rob me before day break.I would have pose with my newly acquired cars(not one) for a pig and poverty stricken idiot like you to see,but I think I need to be more matured.You are crying foul over a car of 1.6m when you don't have 100,000 in your account.
And I pitied your parents for having a boy like you,cos u are a disgrace, why?
-You delve into another man's page
- You started pointing at his wife and family when it is not necessary.
My conclusion is that your parents has failed their mandates as parents, as you are ill-mannered.

I see you edited your post after my message to stop this fight, to include personal insults. If you launch personal attacks against cosplay you have yourself to blame when he comes back swinging at you.

I'm done playing referee here.

Cosplay:
So I just went through this Guy’s posts and all the venom I planned to consume him with just left my body. As in I was tired.

I realized
1. You stay in Ibadan.

2. You got your only car, a piece of shit 2004 (claimed to be 2005) Honda Accord June and even sold it late last year instead of giving it to your wife

3. Since then and even before then you’ve been all over nairaland autos section starting arguments and posting ridiculous prices on dozens of car adverts, usually looking for ‘big daddy’ camry

4. All the people you started arguments with and you insulted ignored you because na only mad man dey follow mad man fight.

5. You like to use big words you have no idea about their true meanings, like the Ibadan tout you are

I don’t even know where to start again to yab you Sir, It would be like giving poison to a dying man.

Shout out to your wife, she is a true hero for accepting to marry a local no good blathering numskull with little grasp of even mundane issues and a penchant for self immolating banter and fostering disharmony.

There. Enough English to keep you occupied. Try use a reliable dictionary

And when you still come back to drop more shot from your stinking feces filled mouth, just try to remember that you’re representing yourself and your wife and family in a public forum.

A55wipe

Bro...

I'm genuinely concerned. Did you really go digging into this guy's background?

You seem to enjoy picking fights all over this section. That's not what we're here for.

Not sure why nobody notices these boat photos aren't even real. Am I the only one that sees the masking?

brigadier747:
neat interior neat xterior very sound engine and neat interior neat xterior very sound engine and gear manual plz and plz only serious buyers only call Show Phon - Show Phone 08147872062

He did emphasize the neatness

This is a hilarious advert.

Guys this is unnecessary. Cosplay you've already made your point by posting photos of the accidented vehicle. These continued personal attacks are unfair because he can't attack back personally.

Cosplay stop replying and taunting this dealer. Valarinz do the right thing with your adverts and stop replying Cosplay. The point has been made.

fearnot1:
I buy my car from copart and stick is always there ..

Nothing to hide . My name Fear Not matters

Nothing to hide? But you've never revealed VIN or any identifying information on any of your adverts... As a matter of fact it was only after pressure by these guys that you owned up to save your reputation on this forum.

Disappointing.

Ipfreely:
There are a number of other POTENTIAL red flags, but perhaps the most blatant, raging-bull matador red flag of them all is the deliberate absence of VIN on a 'tokunbo' vehicle advert.
Close to 100% of these dubious and very dishonest sellers in the autos section would never display a VIN, and most of them, even when reminded, would respond very negatively and aggressively.
Examples.
https://www.nairaland.com/4353427/2010-toyota-corolla-toks-2.7
https://www.nairaland.com/4353188/2011-camry-sale-tokubo
I could literally go on and on with the examples, I encourage you to go through my posts and those of other concerned individuals here e.g. cosplay, obekediamondfuto and the rest.

An example of a potentially dangerous purchase.

https://www.nairaland.com/4353188/2011-camry-sale-tokubo

Note how resistant the seller is to providing the VIN.

Then there's this one. This is a potentially very serious situation.

https://www.nairaland.com/4309529/2016-model-lexus-gx460-toks

finni:
Are we fighting...?

Jousting for the soul of the autos section.

chronique:
A Camry of $10,000 is roughly 3.6m+ at CBN exchange rate without shipping or clearing. If you add shipping+clearing+ dealer's profit,you are looking at almost 5m naira. Advertise that on Nairaland here,and watch miscreants call you all manner of names. I've bee there before and I know what's up. That being said,I won't dispute the fact that there are greedy dealers. I know someone who shipped in an accidented Highlander years ago and fixed it to resell. When he wanted to bid for it, I told him not to buy it for resale but to buy it and butcher it for parts. He came here and fixed it and spent a lot of money on it,and could barely even sell it well... I agree that people should disclose the history of cars here.

As regards the issue of rolled back mileage, it is ignorance that is killing Nigerians and at such,they become a victim of their over sabi. Do you know that some cars with high mileage on the odometer, usually have their engines changed at around 180k-220k km? When the engine has been changed,the car doesn't start reading from zero. Sometimes, a car with a landing mileage of 350k, might have had the engine changed at 280k. This means the current engine would be on about 70k. Instead of our people to focus on the performance of the car and how sound the engine is,they'd be shouting mileage is too high. Dealers who are desperate to sell,end up rolling back mileage to suit the customer's ignorance. Some rolled back mileages are even done in the US. Imagine a client looking for 2003 corolla with mileage of 80k max,in 2018. The average drive for a car is about 15k miles/yr in the US but some cars do more than that yearly. Multiply 15k by 15 yrs and that gives you 225k miles. But you'd see ignorant over sabi folks,demanding maximum of 80-100k miles. This is why most dealers resort to tricks.

If the response to ridiculous requests by buyers with little knowledge about auto import business, is to engage in fraudulent and criminal activity to satisfy those silly and unrealistic demands, well I'm sorry to say that that is criminal.

That would be like someone saying that the reason they sell plastic rice is because buyers come and haggle 2000 naira for a bag of good rice.

Logical, perhaps. But very dishonest.