₦airaland Forum

hercules07:
The british kicked their behind and the Ibadans were not too interested in that area as the overriding objective was to get Ilorin and to push the Fulanis back, civilisation initially came from the North before the arrival of the British. The Ijebus were good warriors sha but there were quite a few wars and battles with the Ibadans that were usually settled no victor no vanquished.

Speechless.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=864525.msg10151022#msg10151022 date=1328715769]This is wrong.

Explain what you mean by civilization.[/quote]Thank you o jare.  

Continuing with sentiments previously expressed by other commenters, this is a valuable and informative thread where the lively participatory and contributory style is making it even more interesting.  

I hope that people can see why some of us favor a united Nigeria that serves as a beacon for the rest of Africa.  Learn from history.  If you don't know your history, you are doomed to neverending failure.  Understand that people will always find reasons to break into smaller and smaller parts.  Yes, each ethnic group is "united" now, but break Nigeria into 2 or 3 parts, with the Yorubas in their Odualand and the Igbos in their Biafra, and the same sentiments that tore Nigeria apart will rear its ugly jealous hateful head in each of those new countries!  I;m not saying anyone is particularly prone to wars, but it takes a small group of disaffected people to get the populace riled up against a phantom oppressor.

I don't want to belabour things.  I only want to emphasise the need to be less myopic.  So many people want Nigeria to break apart because of tribal sentiments - well, trust me, when you don't have the Igbos or Hausas or Yorubas to kick around anymore, you will turn on yourselves.  If it's not tribal or clannish, it will be religious.  It happens all the time.  (India continues to deal with "tribal" issues, just as Pakistan, ever since their breakup.)

How long will Africa continue to break up?  Nigeria into 3 parts?  Then each of those new "nations" break up further - before it's all done, Nigeria will have broken up into 240 tribal countries.  Or maybe each clan  will have it's own country.  lol.  

/off my soapbox.  It had to be said.  No offense sha.   

Back on topic.  

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=864525.msg10145927#msg10145927 date=1328653522]Make i hear word, the Ekitis kicked arses.
They brought a lot of Ibadan women back home as spoils of the war. [/quote][quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=864525.msg10146215#msg10146215 date=1328656559]Sango?
You really don't know your history.
Go and check what happened to the Oyo warriors when they went to Ikere Ekiti to catch slaves to be sold to White Men.

No be today Ekiti people don dey sodomize Oyo Warriors.

E no go better for the 2456387947 Aare ona kankanfos in Oyo!

https://www.naijatreks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/orolecluster2_thumb.jpg

That particular rock killed over 2000 Oyo Warriors in one evening.
It's still being worshipped till today in Ikere Ekiti.[/quote][quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=864525.msg10146428#msg10146428 date=1328660006]They needed an alliance. Oyo Empire was massive.
The Ekitis couldn't have won the war by themselves - but each time the Oyo Warriors encroached the Ekiti territories, they got sodomized![/quote][quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=864525.msg10146595#msg10146595 date=1328664235]Historical parks?
People worship or make sacrifices in most of those battle-grounds till today.[/quote]Who is this wildman? 

We should sacrifice you so Yorubaland can have 100 years of peace and prosperity. 

These Ekiti peeps are very troublesome.  It must be something in the water.    Explains Ileke-Idi, Ekt-Bear, Aigbofa. . . 

I kid I jest. 


P.S. I still want more posts in this thread about great historical figures, even if they're obscure to most people nowadays.  Do your bit, please and thanks. 
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-675773.0.html

"Re: I Am Not Jonathan's Girlfriend Says Ngozi Okonjo Iweala"

You gotta be kidding! Send it to the Jokes section, please.  
BTW, someone needs to show her how tie her gele properly,
instead of looking like she's about to put portmanteau for head.
That's alabaru headtie where I come from.

[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2CGADHb-ZRcG7TfM7JQGw5tVA6528AexNPcgJkJDL6KcbZArrjw[/img]

It' be more believable with this one.
Even though I'm sure it's not true.
[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQd4kwd0ok3aKdGfw4aXBuqoX_XQe99qC3LF6sxEGHMbYm-ZsQZJg[/img]

He's already got this one.
I bet you she's not afraid to slap the hell out
of any heffer that dares touch her husband.
[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJoqBBuByy3b0EpyhfJ42o28ZFLkLf39eL5ECnfai-qVN4C3dJ[/img]

Katsumoto:
Ogedengbe was captured only once by Babalola and not many times and he isn't my general. I don't want to reveal where I am from but my people are warriors hardened by several centuries of war. We wouldn't need to align with Yoruba states, it would take all of 5 secs to sack Ibadan. 

Afghanistan, right?  Sooo many battles for your people.    From Mujaheedeen to Taliban to USA colony.  Pele o.  

Look at this Lagos man; your people were hiding behind the British when all the men were fighting. 

How dare you, sir?  How very dare you?    Okay!  Lagos people were Owanbe'ing when all the other Yorubas were warrior'ing.  So what?!  

Ufeolorun:

[b]Eyo [/b]would have saved them with Opa anyway

We love it!  

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=864525.msg10144276#msg10144276 date=1328638645]LOL @ Hausa/Akagbe Debacle  

Is that a video game war?

Is it on PS3?[/quote]

Katsumoto:
It was more likely a disagreement between traders (from Benue) over some tubers of yam. . .

Yam is a very precious commodity, my friend!

Debacle ko Armageddon ni.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=864525.msg10144696#msg10144696 date=1328642380]  we didnt know there was war to our North.[/quote]Don't mind them!    Eko Ile: still the best!

thameamead:
. . .  I love the way their is divison in the Republican party, the likes of Palin, the right wing nut case radio host Rush Limough and Donald Trump are backing Newt while the others are backing Romney . . .

I think there was some speculation that Trump doesn't really like Romney (who does?), and that may be the case, but he went ahead and called a press conference to voice his support, a few days ago. 

[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPDBRIAy0SbqyoRV8_BQrwJLFEu8q_rU9N4UhmLK6591fvFQaDCw[/img]

Romney Endorsement Came Down to China: Trump
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46293279

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=864525.msg10138703#msg10138703 date=1328578052]Haha. Chivalry is dead.[/quote]      Good to know.

Plus it takes much less time to learn to use a gun well than to become a decent swordsman.

3 months of training at the local range is probably enough to become good with guns. . .

I'm just trying to be somewhat practical

You are an American Imperialist Capitalist anti-Monarchical anti-Traditionalist so-and-so!    Don't even let me start with you.

Didn't we used to be buds?  lol. 


A man with a gun.
[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGL446lkUFmC3tMt1JWmZL3MNl1EZPjFakjix1DPcRMOIzJvCQ[/img]

A girl with a sword  
https://www.loonwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/NY-BA357_FENCER_DV_20110623195015.jpg

Katsumoto:
BTW, that book is ok but not great. I am talking bout Smith's Kingdoms of the Yoruba.

I won't argue with that assessment.  That book was the first I thought of.  I know there are more scholarly and detailed works.  But I remember reading quite a bit about the Ekiti-Ijesha dichotomy in there.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=864525.msg10138670#msg10138670 date=1328577193]I'll try, lol.

Though I suspect a hand gun or ak-47 might be more suitable for the Nigerian setting. . .[/quote]Honestly, you are too Americanised!   A sword takes you back to the past - thoughts of nobility, duels, chivalry. . .  Brings back thoughts of your forebear you just mentioned.  

Dude, you need to be one with your past.    We're talking about swords that a warrior on horseback would have handled and you're talking about some cheap handgun that LA gangbangers, street thugs and crackheads would use to mug tourists on the street. lol.

*I foresee another fight between me and Ekt_Bear o.  Who shall referee this time?* 

dayokanu:
Should we have a Nairaland version of Kiriji wars where i would be kicking the Ekiti parapo armies butts.

Who would be the Ogedengbe, the Fabunmi, Sodeke, the Kurunmi, the Latosa, the Ogunmola etc

Ektbear might end up being the leader of the Ekiti army on NL or Ufeolorun, you want to challenge him?

Who is the Ijesha to represent Ogedengbe etc?

I would totally love to see that recreation.  Role Play on Nairaland.  lol.

Now, to choose the Aare Ona Kakanfo.  Or do we already have one?  Ta ni Nairaland fi j'oye o?   Was it Dayokanu, Ekt_Bear, Katsumoto, Negro_NTNS. . . 

Kilode, of course is the diplomat.   Or is that my role?  hmmm. 

Whatthehey?!  I throw my hat in the ring for the contest for Aare Ona Kakanfo!  Yes, I said it! 

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=864525.msg10137010#msg10137010 date=1328559011]My great-great-grandfather (the man I am named after) fought in this war. We had his sword, but it seems to be "missing" from our family compound [/quote]A sword from that long ago.  Do you now what it looks like?  You could find an image online and post.  I'm curious to see it.  It reminds me of watching TV programmes like American Roadshow(?) and seeing caucasians bringing in antique African daggers and swords that they claim was bought (looted!) by their grandfathers during some "liberation" war or the other.  Stolen Benin artifacts and Eqyptian mummies, anyone?  

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=864525.msg10137257#msg10137257 date=1328561125]Orúko nií ro omo. . .

Names are like prophecies.[/quote][quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=864525.msg10137851#msg10137851 date=1328566500]How did the Ijesha come to settle in western Ekitiland? How long have they (or I should say we) been there for?[/quote]The book, Kingdoms of the Yoruba, is one book where that aspect was covered in some detail.  I would recommend it because it is compact and can be a quick read.
 
http://books.google.com/books/about/Kingdoms_of_the_Yoruba.html?id=p3d1AAAAMAAJ

since he met her in the church it is better to talk with the pastor and he can help clear the road.

No no no!  He's a stutterer, not a wimp!  He can approach her himself - like a man.

Anyway, you don't know what kind of pastor we're talking about here.  Some people don't know what they want until someone else wants it.   I think y'all get my drift sha. 

Onlytruth:
. . . .In January 1966, our sons (Igbo) struck, and wanted to tame these folks. [/b]The coup was foiled by OUR sons. In july 1966, Hausa/Fulani struck back and (for the sake of this argument) "took revenge" and much more. A crisis ensued. To resolve the crisis, our son (Ojukwu) still wanting to tame those people, insisted that YOUR brother Ogunipe should take over power after Ironsi's death. Guess what? Your brother RAN AWAY.
. . . Lost millions of our people, plus [b]our mission to tame the Hausa/Fulani in Nigeria.
For our efforts, the Hausa/Fulani, with YOUR full support, shut the East out of power (I would say out of fear of what we might do to them) from 1970 till Jonathan's ascendancy.

Is the above an admission that the oft-proclaimed anti-corruption coup of 1966 where Tafawa Balewa and Sardauna of Sokoto, Ahmadu Bello were murdered was actually an assassination plot[b] targeted at Northerners (in order to remove them from power)? [/b]

I haven't heard much about this speech impediment recently, so I assumed there is a lot of very effective methods to relieve the stutterer and help them stop. Also, it seems to disproportionately affect young men, who (we assume) later grow out of it once out of the teen years.

Anyway, whatever the case, no matter how severe the stammering, it'd be tragic for the guy to let it prevent him from making a connection.  I mean, who cares!  Just make your move.  Maybe try the advice of first writing a letter.  I even heard that stutterers don't have any problems when they sing.  So, maybe sing some of the church songs to her first, or when you feel you're about to stammer. lol.

I can just see it now: Our stutterer goes to talk to the girl; she hears him stammer and she bursts out laughing.  His feelings get hurt, and he thinks "what a b*&^%, she's laughing at me because I stammer!"     Unbeknownst to him, she also has a problem - she laughs when she's nervous or surprised.    Ah!  What a world.  We're all so misunderstood.  Amazing how the human race hasn't slowly died out due to assumptions conjectures and misunderstandings.

Good work, General. Condolences. Hope your year is getting better.

Political and historically informative thread for the front page, please and thanks.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-859122.0.html

Oletunow:
That is how you feel when you do not understand the game, I was in your shoes before. Then I felt that soccer was the greatest game, until I took the time to study and understand football, sine then I have come to appreciate the game.

Blasphemy!  Sacre Bleu!!    Are you saying American Armored Rugby is "the greatest game" over the real football?! 

Anyway, enjoy your "football."   I won't ever watch that stuff again. No offense.  But, I'd rather watch baseball.  NOT!

slyfoxxjoe:
I would die before I sit through a game of so called 'American football'

Of boredom!    I almost did.  The one and only time I watched that @#$%^&*!   Never again. 

Idowuogbo:
Ask Katangura he was d master paparazzi dat dey 

Who is that?  Girlie, you better be careful; Walls have ears o.

riodray:
Well,first i want you to know that,the Igbo people are not in anyway related to the Bini,although they(the Bini) where from east-central africa,but i also want you to read about the 'Torqua people' in west africa and you will also know some similarity between the Igbo and the Yorubas culture.But to shorten the long history,you should go back to your history books and make a good research about the following areas:Orunmila's 7cowries and seven years,Oduduwa and his seven ground-children,the Ogiso clan,the Isoko and Urobo people of Delta, Eweka and his mother in Bini,Bini to Ife Ibinu,the Igodomigodo and the Igbomina,Oba, the fifteenth of Bini,Idah and Bini warriors(Onitsha creation),Oshilimili people in Delta before the biafra war,Agbor migration(Ijaw,Nupe,Bini and Yoruba),Kwale(Bini and runaway slave),Warri(Bini,Yoruba and Ijaw),Dahomy,Benin Republic(Bini and Yoruba),Lagos state(Abeokuta fishermen and Eyo masqurade),Benin culture(the Yorubas' and the Egyptians culture),Bini dialect after the 'portugees' and the West africa dialects after the 'colonial masters' e.t.c.(I AM TIRED OF TYPING).

Riodray, Shymmex, et. al.,
I am liking your contributions.  When you have time, please share your (historical) knowledge here* by writing about one or more luminary in "Nigeria" EARLY history.  Celebrated or under-rated - doesn't matter.
* https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-675773.0.html

afam4eva:
I guess this thread is for non-igbos as polygamy is not a part of our culture.

So there was no Igbo culture or worthy history before the arrival of the missionaries?

This is still going.  Oh well.  The sun rises. . . the sun sets. . .

Idowuogbo:
Nnamdi wan comot for village na he don tire to dey hawk kolanut 

Badosky.  Where is your own traditional wedding picture? 

moHot:
YOU HAVE SUCH A WILD TASTE

@OP

LOVE IS WICKED!!!

Why nau?  Valentines is gonna be rough, if you feel that way. 

BTW, "Mo Hot."  "I am hot!"?  That's one of the best usernames. 

alj harem:
tell whether this is igbo or yoruba in this pictures since you can use facial struture to identify people's group

LOL

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIOv80A1FgSKqg7WXEMru2OHImPmgXFKx0uRdx3JUB3R5XEssS

Cute guy, but . . .  I have never seen a nose like that before ever.  I would never have guessed his ethnicity.  Also looks like he's got some caucasian, obviously.

Katsumoto:
Dude,

Naija ladies are complete although they may stress you.
Naija ladies are confident, sexy, educated, pretty, elegant, etc.

Some of those south african, east african gals you are praising have good bodies but are not as good looking as West African gals. All they got going for them are sexy bodies. If you want a complete lady and aren't intimidated by a confident, sexy, and educated lady, then a Nigerian lady is it. Be it Yoruba, Edo, Igbo - they are all banging. I can't even believe you said Naija ladies should compete with Ghanian gals.  

Katsumoto, were you in a contest. . . to see how many  from all over the world?  

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=862912.msg10124150#msg10124150 date=1328403891]But my Edo girls are closer to Yoruba men

At the end of the day that is all that matters. [/quote] Kilode is Edo.  Now for the rest of the 85% that makes Kilode, Kilode, and the circle is complete.  

alj harem:
Nope

Women are fulani/hausa girl

men are yoruba/bendel men

get your facts right.

       

Alj, Salaam.

alj harem:
I be fine boy o


Hmmmm nope you are so wrong, Hnadsomeness goes to the yoruba/edo people and even fulani. if you no like am go hang lol

https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif  https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif  https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif  https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif

shymmex:
Thanks, fam,  I have noted the notorious tribalists like onlytruth, dayokanu, ezeuche, exotik etc,  I'll try to avoid them - these clowns breed tribalism, I tell ya,  I grew up with a lot Nigerian kids that never cared about their tribes - we only saw ourselves as Nigerians and black Africans,  I developed an interest in Nigerian history before 1914 a couple of years ago - and the funniest thing is that the guy who introduced it to me was a RASTAFARIAN, and since then I have found out every tribe in Nigeria is the SAME PEOPLE - just with different tongues,  we all migrated from the same place,

Yorubas, Binis, Igbos, Hausa etc,  are all not indigenous to where they're in present day Nigeria - we all migrated from different places,  We might even be the same people but we now speak different languages,

Even most of the present day English people are GERMANS - but we Africans do HATE studying our history and migration patterns - that's why we're in the mess we're in today,

Welcome.    I guess you're a relatively new poster.  I haven't read all the back and forth, so I may have missed something . . . but I have to tell you, take it easy with comments about another poster's parent(s).  Aside from my own personal opinion on the matter, NL rules says you can be banned for it.  Careful o.  if you get banned you can't later run for Poster of the Year. lol 

Jarus:
Culture, not Politics pls.

Thanks

Oga Jarus.  Sorry o.  I spotted the thread, read just a few posts before replying to the one that caught my attention.  Didn't notice it was in Culture section.  Also, I mentioned Politics Section since that is where most of the complaints about tribalist threads stem.

Thread is moving too fast. 20 posts while I was typing.  No wonder I thought it was Politics Section.

shymmex:
. . .Nairaland showed me why my mum used to tell me that Ibo people are greedy, and they've agbari Ojukwu (whatever that means), I guess expansionism and greediness are the reasons why people don't trust the Ibo,  Stop this bickering, Ibo people,  Nigeria is bigger than one tribe,

Your post sounds heartfelt.  But to be fair, Ibos are not the only ones that display tribalism on Nairaland (and I'm not just talking about this thread).  Furthermore, you don't always know if the "tribalist" behind the username is actually what they claim; we've seen posters with seemingly Yoruba names posting anti-Yoruba messages, and vice versa.

It appears it will not end any time soon.  You can even see explicitly racist/offensive topics make it to the home page as fast as lightning.    

I commend the Politics Section Moderators for their efforts.  But, the buck stops with the owner.


P.S.  Is Odumchi really a mod?    Dude, aren't you the brat dude that threw a tantrum in my thread about pre-colonial Naija greats?!  Crying about why I was making numerous posts about only one tribe even though I had only made one - the opening post? I cannot believe you're a mod.    I have to double-check!  

mukina2:
you know you woke up to watch Le Arsenal  

All right, Muki.  I will consider it.   Meawhile. . . I just hope your future pikin will support Le Arse and love footy as much as you do, and not choose Table Tennis.  Ciao! 

[flash=520,360]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n5uFGk2pnc[/flash]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1n5uFGk2pnc

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/889331-amazing-table-tennis-baby-jamie-a-smash-hit-on-youtube

[quote author=Mynd_44 link=topic=862327.msg10120524#msg10120524 date=1328368819]Here we go[/quote]Meaning: Your day is about to get more fun! hahahaha. Get your popcorn ready.

I don't see why people on here are getting their knickers in a twist over this?  Is it her supposed age, her perceived homeliness, or her heaviness? 

Those two look about the same age.  And lots of Eastern Nigerian men actually like heavier women.  She is not ugly, although plain; and she also looks pregnant.  So, she's not a beauty queen?  She'll probably make a good wife and mother, and stay married longer than some of the whiners on this thread.   I personally don't consider marrying outside of my own race and culture, but I'm not going to get all spastic over someone else's marriage. Jeez!

[quote author=Mrs, Chima link=topic=862327.msg10120152#msg10120152 date=1328365328]Aww.  True love.    [/quote]The irony.  Aren't you a foreigner married to a Nigerian?

mukina2:
yes she is a closet arsenal fan  

[quote author=Kay-Dee link=topic=862682.msg10120349#msg10120349 date=1328366948]So you woke up this early just to watch the game, then you should be an Arsenal fan.[/quote]How do you know I didn't wake up just to watch Blackburn?  





bwaaaahahahahaha!

psyched!  

Not at all.  Sunlight shone against my window, and up I got - at 801am.  Pure coincidence.


P.S. Henry had a good day too. Good on Wenger. Is this his first happy day in eons?

mukina2:
yes you  do   support us it aint hard  

hmmm.  I can't get into supporting any teams right now except my national team.  

Oh!  I decided to start supporting the local Lagos team.  I can't remember their name right now though.  lol.  

mukina2:
you voted blackburn right?  

I chose Arsenal - easy after 6 goals, right?!  lol.  Look, I'm just happy I can watch footy on TV this morning - ESPN2.  

mukina2:
Isale gan gan stop being a killjoy na

we will finish top 4  

Oh, I asked an honest question!  I promise I'm not making fun of y'all.  Anymore.  It was only my original post about Van P nau.  I got nothing against Gunners.  

I just voted.  It was a tough call.  

Poll
Question: Who Wins This Match?
Arsenal - 14 (87.5%)
Blackburn Rovers - 1 (6.3%)
Draw - 1 (6.3%)

Total Votes: 16

[quote author=Kay-Dee link=topic=862682.msg10120176#msg10120176 date=1328365499]he's never been fit for this long.[/quote]Okey doke.  Thanks.  

Carry on, Arsefans.  Don't let me spoil your fun.    Things are finally going your way.

mukina2:
i am gliding lol  

Seriously now, Muki.  I'm not up on prem league stats at the moment.  What's Gunners possible best finishing this season?  If things keep going your way, I mean.

And Thierry is in there now.  Inter-resting!  

[quote author=Kay-Dee link=topic=862682.msg10120114#msg10120114 date=1328365056]yeah now we can take off Van Pee[/quote]He won't want to leave the play right now; probably dreaming of a hat-trick. lol.  It's curious how Van Pervert didn't start scoring until Premier League had been cleared of its superstars like CRon. It only took him about a hundred years after all the hoopla.

Oh!  Hey there, Mukimuki.  Arsenal getting lucky and Muki's feeling funky.  Funkee Funkay.  

P.S. Jinxed! He scored as I was composing.