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Here's NBC's official transcript of Sunday's debate.

http://presspass.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/08/10049650-read-the-nbc-news-facebook-debate-transcript


Below highlight is from Satuday night's debate on ABC.  Missed it.
Of course, Gingrich, Cheney and a bunch of them are all CHICKEN HAWKS.
Thanks, Ron Paul, for telling it like it is on USA foreign policy!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAHCP-M2N3M

Debate is over.

Those New Hampshire "Live Free and Die" people. Everyone wants to appear independent to them.

MSNBC analysts mentioning immediate "oppositional research" of Ron Paul campaign on Huntsmann's bite into their support. The NH people like the mavericks, so concern that some of the votes Paul has been counting on may go to the guy who's been trailing all along. Highlight of Huntsmann's retort to Romney, ". . .that is why this country is divided" comment.

Romney acting like he owns the podium.

A question was posed to him. . . and he's taking it to Newt now.  He tells Gingrich his rhetoric (re: a campaign speech/video or other) was over the top.  Calls Newt "Mr. Speaker" repeatedly, almost derisively.

Newt says, if you can't take the heat, get out. . .


Santorum corrects moderator's question about him by responding, I haven't written a lot of books, I've only written one and it was in response to Hilary Clinton . . . He's addressing traditions of marriage and family.

Foreign policy question on why is it okay for China to have nuclear weapons and not Iran.

Santorum throws in his warped understanding of Islam to justify why Iran should not have such. 

Moderator says the Pakis are also Islamic.  Santorum's not making sense.  He lost me. 

That's what I call talking out of your ar.se.

Focus turns to Health care, and a question on what sort of care should citizens expect and are entitled to from the government.

Ron Paul responds, and I paraphrase, Entitlements are not RIGHTS!  There's only one type of right - and that is the right to your liberty. What you all call rights, like Gay rights, etc, are not rights.

I was going to suggest switching to MSNBC, but it look like this already aired live from 9am to 11am Eastern time.

There was a one-hour delay on my local channel, so we're just halfway.  Looks like it's the same for you, DK.

Some more detail here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/ns/meet_the_press_online_at_msnbc

I will keep watching "live" and post when something interesting occurs.

Romney trying to have it both ways yet again.

A question about gay rights.  Romney says he doesn't discriminate against gays. . . one of his former staffers was gay . . . doesn't support gay marriage.

Co-moderator turns to Santorumm and asks if he will stand up for gay rights.
Santorum reiterates he does not hate the gays.  But he doesn't agree or support certain things.  That they should support and elect those who have similar views to them.  Also responded to a question that he would love his son if he told him he is gay.    

Perry still tripping over himself.  DK, please do something to save your fellow Texan.  

dayokanu:
Michelle Bachmann already pulled out of the presidential race

Thankies! 

I missed some parts of this debate.  In order to present a well-rounded view, I shall post more highlights later today.

Santorum went after Ron Paul.  I guess part of his immediate tactic is to cut into Paul's conservative/libertarian support.

He challenged Paul's ability to be effective in instituting the policy changes he touts.  He followed the moderator's statistic that out over 200 bills he sponsored in congresss, Paul has only been able to get only a handful into the books.

Paul segued into foreign policy: USA cannot continue to meddle in 130 countries, maintain over 900 bases in foreign countries . . .

Ron Paul is also there.

So is Rick Perry.

And the other guy.

Did Michelle pull the plug on her campaign since the Iowa Straw Poll?

NBC News is doing a special Meet The Press featuring a debate amongst the Republican Primary candidates, live from New Hampshire.

Romney is such a worm.  (I don't know who is more dishonest and duplicitous between him and Obomber.)  Even a blustering blowhard like Newt had to call him out on his fakery.  And come across more credible in the process.  Romney was bloviating about not being a lifelong politician - Newt said, look here, level with the American people, you temporarily left politics cos you got beat the heck out,not cos you're some pious guy who had loftier goals, furthermore, you were running for president while still governor and you've been running consistenly since 1994 - and McCain beat you out in the last election primary!

Santorium also challenged him.

cap28:
Kaduna Nzeogwu is my hero and i have remained fascinated by the extreme courage, intelligence and discipline that he showed during one of the most turbulent periods in our history.

Had he along with the other young majors succeeded with the January 66 coup, i beleive nigeria would by now have become an economic succcess story just as Libya was before the satanic invasion of NATO.

may his soul continue to rest in peace.

have you got the link for his thread?

catch you later, hope you are well though.

Yes, started the new year with hope, but concerned about ongoing repercussions in Naija.

Here's the link: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=838179.html. 
Oops.  I said some not-so-nice things about him. lol.  But we're still cool, of course?   

[size=14pt]Haitians Take Arduous Path to Brazil, and Jobs[/size]

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Haitian would-be immigrants to Brazil used their hotel lobby as an improvised church as they sing and pray in Brasiléia, Brazil. Gambling everything, thousands of Haitians have made their way across the Americas to reach small towns in the Brazilian Amazon over the past year in a desperate search for work.

New York Times
Published: January 6, 2012

BRASILÉIA, Brazil — Of the odyssey that delivered him to this town in the Brazilian Amazon, Wesley Saint-Fleur could muster only a look of exhaustion and bewilderment.

Months ago, he boarded a bus in Haiti, before getting on a plane in the Dominican Republic, landing first in Panama and then in Ecuador. That was where his wife gave birth to their son, Isaac, he said, bouncing the 4-month-old infant on his knee and brandishing the boy’s Ecuadorean identification card. Then they continued by bus yet again, through Ecuador and Peru. Next, they trekked by foot in Bolivia, where, he said, the police robbed him and his wife of their clothing and their life savings: $320 in cash.

“Then we finally got to Brazil, which I’m told is building everything, stadiums, dams, roads,” said Mr. Saint-Fleur, 27, a construction worker, one of hundreds of Haitians who gather each day around the gazebo in Brasiléia’s palm-fringed plaza. “All I want is work, and Brazil, thank God, has jobs for us.”

Gambling everything, thousands of Haitians have made their way across the Americas to reach small towns in the Brazilian Amazon over the past year in a desperate search for work, including a surge of hundreds arriving in recent days amid fears that Brazil’s government could slow the influx before it overwhelms the authorities here.

Their improbable journeys — from the rubble of their island homes to remote outposts here in the Amazon — say as much about the dire economic conditions that persist in Haiti two years after the earthquake as it does about the rising economic profile of Brazil, which is fast becoming a magnet not only for poor foreign laborers but also for growing numbers of educated professionals from Europe, the United States and Latin America.

Upon arriving here and in other border outposts, the Haitians are often given vaccinations, clean water and two meals a day by the authorities. Many stay for weeks in Brasiléia and other towns before being granted humanitarian visas that allow them to work in Brazil.

But with such a crush of new arrivals, others have not been so lucky. After traveling thousands of miles and overcoming countless obstacles, some crowd eight to a small hotel room or wind up sleeping on the streets, almost reliving the misery they had hoped to leave behind.

“I cannot allow the sadness to take over, since opportunity will follow this hard phase,” said Simonvil Cenel, 33, a tailor awaiting a visa who leads animated evangelical prayer services for those stuck in limbo after enduring so much to get here.

About 4,000 Haitians have immigrated to Brazil since the 2010 earthquake, often going first through Ecuador, a poorer country with lax visa policies. Brazil has made an exception for Haitians in contrast to job-seekers from nations like Pakistan, India and Bangladesh, who arrive via similar Amazonian routes but are usually expelled.

“Haiti is recovering from an extreme period of crisis, and Brazil is in a position to help these people,” said Valdecir Nicácio, a human rights official in the state of Acre, encompassing Brasiléia. “Before getting here, they are at the mercy of human traffickers,” he said. “Brazil is big enough to absorb Haitians who just want jobs.”

With the number of Haitians sharply increasing in recent days, the authorities in Brasiléia and Tabatinga, a border city in Amazonas State, have warned of the strains of trying to feed and house the Haitians while visa applications are reviewed. Federal officials have responded by sending tons of food for the Haitians, who currently number more than 1,000 in each border settlement.

Dealing with an immigration crisis on its border is a new dilemma for Brazil, which until recently was more concerned with the outflow of its own citizens seeking opportunities in rich industrialized countries than responding to the arrival of thousands of impoverished foreigners.

Though economic growth has recently slowed in Brazil, unemployment remains at a historic low of 5.2 percent, and many companies have trouble finding enough workers to fill vacancies. Wages have also climbed for those at the lowest rung of the job market, with the income of poor Brazilians growing seven times as much as the income of rich Brazilians from 2003 to 2009.

“We were experiencing a decline in our work force because so many Brazilians are going to work at the two hydroelectric projects,” said Ana Terezinha Carvalho, the personnel management analyst at Marquise, a company in Porto Velho. The city lies in the upper Amazon River Basin, where Brazil is employing thousands to build two big dams, called Jirau and Santo Antônio.

Ms. Carvalho said her company quickly hired 37 Haitians who arrived last year, to collect trash in Porto Velho and take it to the city’s landfill. Some make more than $800 a month, in a job that includes benefits like health insurance, overtime and paid holidays. “There weren’t enough Brazilians, so we were happy to hire the Haitians,” she said.

The authorities estimate that about 500 Haitians now live in Porto Velho and that about 700 are in Manaus, the largest city in the Brazilian Amazon. Hundreds more have made it to São Paulo, Brazil’s economic capital. Companies like Fibratec, a swimming pool manufacturer in southern Santa Catarina State, have even sent managers all the way here to hire dozens of Haitians.

In addition to meeting demand for cheap labor, the effort to let Haitians work in Brazil speaks to the country’s ambitions of wielding greater regional influence, by attempting to find ways of alleviating problems in the hemisphere’s poorest nation.

Since 2004, Brazil has sent troops to lead a United Nations peacekeeping mission in Haiti. But there are now more Haitians in Brazil than Brazilian soldiers in Haiti. In September, Brazil announced that it would start drawing down its 2,000 troops in the Caribbean nation.

Most of the Haitians hope to spend just a few weeks in Brasiléia’s immigration limbo, before moving on. Some, like Francisco Joseph, 25, make the most of the time here. He buys prepaid cellphone cards across the bridge in the Bolivian city of Cobija and sells them to fellow Haitians in Brasiléia’s plaza at a markup of about 30 cents a card. He makes as much as $10 a day.

“This little bit of money gives me a little bit of dignity,” he said.

Others, like Jacksin Etienne, 31, nurture bigger dreams. A polyglot who glides with ease between English, Spanish, French and Creole, Mr. Etienne said he hoped to work as a translator or in a hotel.

“I want to go straight to São Paulo, the New York of South America,” he said. “Brazil’s a rising kind of place, and it needs people like me.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/07/world/americas/brazils-boom-absorbs-haitis-poor-for-now.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper

Big B1:
. . . you guys turned a deaf ear and elected an absolute basket as president. Now fetching water becomes impossible, and everybody is crying.
To be honest, I have no beef with our push-over president, as the dude meant no harm, but simply has no clue. My beef is with bright/intelligent Nigerians that refused to use their brains during the elections. How could you guys allow this to happen?

OP,
I also do not consider Jonathan to be a nefarious "evil genius" bent on stealing all he can and leaving the country in ruins.  Rather, he is simply not equipped for such a position of power and influence - can't stand up to the likes of OBJ and the other tough guys, foreign and domestic, pulling his strings.  It's unfortunate for him and us that he seems to find himself in professionally beneficial circumstances, isn't it?  

As for blaming the Nigerian electorate?  We can't cast the election all over again.  Even if we could, can you guarantee PDP wouldn't still win without a benefit of a run-off?  If indeed there was some rigging in April, then you can't hold the country as a whole for "electing" him.  

We're in the soup.  

Andre Uweh:
@WHOEVER is posting those videos. Stop wasting your time posting those videos. It doesn't win you this arguement. A couple of years ago, I attended a Church in Tottenham London. The choir group in that church sang mostly in Efik as the founder is Efik. This choir group consists of Sierra leoneans, Liberians, Ndigbo, etc.
Would I at this instance say Efik is the mostly influential language outside Nigeria?.

Calm down. I simply embedded the videos. I also have been invited to Nigerian churches here in SE USA where all the ethnic groups mixed very well together. Two of the three curches were founded by Yorubas but had Igbo and Yoruba pastors and choir. The third one was pastored by a Ghanaian but had mostly Nigerian members of all groups.

[quote author=lovely_S link=topic=838249.msg9913604#msg9913604 date=1325940886]@OP You are right, if you dont believe see the videos below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFYZ3KHEXYI&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of_sRHlCk-c

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of_sRHlCk-c

The second video (above) is unbelievable.  That soloist enunciates, most times, better than any non-African speaker I've heard yet.  It could be she is just good at singing; I'd be curious to hear her speaking voice, or even to learn whether she understands the words at all.  Great job!   The fourth one (below) is good - An acoustic guitar solo and song cover by a boy who sounds like English his also his second language.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRSrZUzY-C8


A link related to the above and thread topic:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-832230.0.html

naijababe:
^ Abeg, what is wrong with a player?!

[size=5pt]na just innocent kweshun o[/size]

I love it!  Another player just outed herself. 

OAM4J, Katsumoto, OAM4J, Ola, Debo. . . Say HI to the female Player, Naijababe.  May the best player win!  Oh, don't forget Idowuogbo.  Her own level actually scares me sha.

Ajaaaaaaaaaa! 

You're my last hope.  Please don't go the way of the BAD BOYS o.  hahahaha.  What did I do that you should be talking about my isale? 

I said those Hausa chicks are not as flat as you claim.  You are not prolific nor efficient in checking out since that's not your main subject.  Or do you not know there are regular seemingly angelic posters on this very thread who have made it their lifelong project?    Just read between the lines.  And of course, if we're talking about OAMJ, you don't have try too hard.  Player nomba one ni'yen.  His theme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQXa6M7RW9k.
 
For real for real, bros.  Emi o bu e nau.  Or you too want to turn to player?  Or you want to become my enemy?  That's fine.  Blacksta threw in the towel; I need another foil. . .an antagonist. . . a sparring partner!  Let's go!  

Prof Ola.  Where do you live?  I live in SE USA - you prob know where already.

So, what I know about you so far:
- May or may not have taught school in Ninety-Gbongbonron
- Probably resides in NJ
- May be a friend of the WolfDog (you see how I switch it up?  keep the mutt on his toes. )
- It's in the cards that Naijababe's blackbelter hubby will practise some new moves on him when he lands in Da Granite City, looking for the very very troublesome and indifferent BADASS AWORI CHICK (ask her how she got that name)
- - - More to come

Prof Ola. What are you talking about? lol. Sorry for the slow reply; I just saw it. . . in the other thread. I just do it to make run o.

Show of hands! lol.

"Re: Seun Osewa, Would You Be Interested In Political Office (nass)?"

I certainy wouldn't vote for him.  (No) Offense meant. 

Jarus:
One thing about Seun is he knows himself very well and he is very frank about it. He is very straightforward and frank about his person: atheist, capitalist, not likeable. He doesn't mix or play with words to describe himself.

As if! Thanks though.

ebonyvibe:
. . . her point now is when he knows that he is married why let her keep the baby why not ask her to get rid of it and led her on till she gives birth.

Maybe, for him, abortion was one mortal sin too many.  Just a thought.

[quote author=Afro_Blue link=topic=840406.msg9915686#msg9915686 date=1325962955]Some Men Have The Power!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAwLYJYsa0A?version=3&feature=player_detailpage[/quote]What in the wooooorld?!                https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif   https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif   https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif

"Re: Why Do Nigerians In Diaspora Make The Loudest Voice On Nigeria Political Affair?"

Because you don't live on the the shores of Nigeria 12 months of the year does not mean you lose the right to address the issues concerning Nigeria.  Most people plan to return.

I don't see anyone complaining about interference when diasporans send billions of dollars home every year to help citizens provide what the government refuses to provide, the basic necessities of life!

AjanleKoko:
^^
Not impressed jare.
None of those Hausa chicks had an[i] isale[/i] that was gantu

You ol' dirty aja dog, you.  

I guess gantu means big.  I wouldn't be surprised to find this confused mutt is actually Hausa, or half Hausa.     

You were't paying proper attention.  Wait till the commentary of those with Doctorate in Women Stidies with a specializaton in buttology. 

Hey, Dirty dog, what's omoge saida mean?  I can't ask anyone cos it might be somn doheetyy.

OAM4J:
. . . 2 of the people protesting in London look like debosky and idowuogbo.

The last anyone saw of Debosky, he and Blacktsa were trying to gatecrash a respectable house party, dateless and suitless.    Watch closely.  
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjKU9y56nEE&feature=related

Justwise, either crown Morpheus or take charge of the 2011 election here so we can acknowledge those we appreciate for keeping the section going.

morpheus24:
Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

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cap28:
all this for moi?

awww i am not worthy my dear but thank you.

  You were my choice for Politics Section Poster of 2010, remember.  But you're slighyly less active there now.  (I don't blame you - NL can be more trouble than it's worth.)  Of course, the subsidy removal is really all anyone is talking about.  I myself have talked to family in Lagos every day since the New Year - there is some major sense of dread, bro.  Prices of some food/commodities have shot up 3-fold -  the boys are restless.   Also, you should check out the Kaduna Nzeogwu thread.  I'm not sold on him, but If I remember correctly, you and a few other posters I respect think well of him.

wow. . .what you said was NOT cool.  

I was surprised by that too.  


LOL at Beaf the Devil Incarnate flinging curses.  Right back at ya, you political hack!

Beaf:
You are a demon. May the blood of the dead hunt you.
How can anybody politic over precious loss of life? what sort of devil are you?

We all know who is the evil soulless one, and it's not the person you're attacking.  You sold your soul a long time ago and the devil charges a lot more than interest. 

Frosbel,
I don't care for you or your propaganda, but I shouldn't have called you names.  If I had it to do again, I wouldn't have done that.  It's not my style.   (I can't promise it won't again because your postings are very incendiary; we all know it. Why you have not been banned, I'll never know.)

Tempers are inflamed o.