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HappyJoe: I don't know why people are getting worked up about this meeting.

Most Catholics in Nigeria are Igbo

No, most Igbos in Nigeria are Catholic is what I think you meant to say. Your claim is not backed up by any empirical evidence.

HappyJoe: Let me remind us that during our civil war, Igbo Catholic leaders supported Biafra, while Catholic leaders in Nigeria supported the Federal forces.

Ummm.... maybe because they were not Igbo, but Nigerians?

HappyJoe: France and Germany have fought against each other severally - and both nations have always had cardinals and Catholics.

And this is relevant to the topic, because....?

HappyJoe: I'm Igbo, but even though I'm not Catholic, the Igbo Catholic's view more closely mirrors Oritsejafor than Onaiyekan - .

Whiich is what? Intolerance? Hate? Disrespect of others' beliefs? Inciting religious bigotry, violence and uproar? Tell us, what part of Igbo Catholic doctrines mirrors that of the obviously divisive OritseRozay?

HappyJoe: If you're holding a meeting without their representatives, you might as well be wasting your time.

I, personally, think it is clear that it is him and his followers that are wasting their time expecting any kind of acknowledgment in this instance.

Arsenate: having stayed in Yoruba land for sometime now I won't really say they are religious tolerant. I'd say they are confuse; no insult intended here. seriously, how can someone go to Church in the morning, then babalawos house in the evening and once in while visits the imam for prayers? (true life story) this simply means they stand for nothing and hence everything goes.

NGIGE is a South Eastern christian. His pictures of him naked in a ibo voodoo priests shrine are all over the Internet for the world to see

Carlmax: EXACTLY!!! People would come back here 2015 and wish Ayo had more support from christians when he needed it most.He might be corrupt and a bling bling pastor, but he is not one to stand and do nothing when christians are slaughtered sunday after sunday, kidnapped from thier skols or burnt in their sleep.

The money he spent on Private Jets and amassing worldly goodies wouldve helped a lot of needy Nigerians if he was really sincere in his faith.

Iykopee: ^^^^ untill they stop persecuting xtians in the north otherwise the essence of the parley is pure waste of time. Who need the message of peace and harmony between xtians and muslims ahead of 2015 elections more? I believe the sultan shud divest more of his time and educate his religious brethren on the need for tolerance rather than masking his bigoted and deceptive antics cunningly by meeting with the cardinal. Pastor Ayo cant be deceived.

I could care less what you religious crazies do in your backwards dirt-on-earth country, just dont bring your refugee problems, diseases and backwards way of thinking to this side of the world when you decide to go to war again over foreign beliefs.

jerseyboy: The last time Islam and Catholics true power brokers played this game Islam ended up overrunning Spain, Portugal and permanently Turkey. Learn your history.

You are the perfect example of the term "ignorant black man". Spain was a Islamic country inhabited and ruled by the Moors---BLACK MEN like your dummy self--- before the Catholics (ReConquistadors), WHITES, killed them off and took over the land.

You learn your history.

premium1: Kai,chRistians on this thread Running doWn pastoR Oritsejafor,it is such a pity andd a big shame! CAn u ever hear a muslim saying deRogatory words about dere immams? We are so divided yet we claim to b called followers of Christ.
What has pastor ORitsejafoR done to warrant all these insults?He wears a long chain, ȋ̝̊̅ڪ dat a sin? TD Jakes wears a stud does dat make him less a christian! I jst don't understand this hatred! Christians,don't speak ill of ur spiritual leaders,let God Almighty bee the judge!

Jesus did not wear big chains or drive Bentleys, he walked bare feet, rode a donkey and probably didn't have more than 2 pairs of clothes. The criminals you call "religious leaders" would've been slapped silly by Jesus were he around to witness their love of material and earthly wealth.

Don't be a sheep.

Iykopee: The problem with most Xtians is their inability to own a copy of the koran and read a handful portion of it from time to time in other to understand vividly the driving force behind Islamic activities.. So trying to make peace with a known vicious creation is an effort in futility.

@ topic, Pastor Ayo may not be the right person to lead CAN for its much taunted glory but without a blink of the eyes, Ayo stood up for Xtians and was vocal against Xtian persecution in the north. Where was the cardinal then? We didnt even hear from the sultan directing whosoever is responsible for destroyin churches to stop.

However, one wonder why the Sultan decides to parley with d cardinal. gawd! Its simple, sheer hypocrisy. He wants a dummy he could toss up and down. Pastor Ayo is not that kind of character and he's not ready to pander to the sultan's antics of peace and harmony over 2015 elections now. Why? becos he knew what Islam stands for and the actions of its adherents inside-out.

Lastly, i'm a Xtian and if u cant stand up and speak on behalf of Xtians in the time of trouble, i sincerely believe that u are not representing our interests whether CAN OR NO CAN.

People like you are the problem why your country is a shiyyt hole that Noone wants to associate with. Youre the very epitome of the hypocrisy which you pretentiously claim to abhor. Your likes try to pretend that they are neutral and 'open minded' while stoking the fires of hatred and intolerance.

Anyway, the Sultan and Cardinal did condemn the violence happening in the Northern parts of your country IN ITS TOTALITY. They did not segregate the victims by tribe or Nationality like OritseRozay did. How can you properly detail the tribes or religion of the dead victims in a country where the breathing ones can't even be properly identified? Not long after that, a Northern Emir was shot up and almost killed.

Shame on you for being a bigot.

ZKOSOSO: Just wondering when shall we see all the muslims from North sincerely supporting a christian from the North for the position of president. When

Why are you Nigerian Christian--- especially from the Eastern parts--- so intolerant towards others' beliefs? Why is everything always about religion or tribe?

atlwireles: When Pastor Ayo takes the stage, all Nigeria TV stations go carry yan live, Goodluck, Sambo, David Mark, govs, senators, who is who of Nigeria's business will be present. And your cardinal will be no where close. probably drinking tea with your sultan. Xtians in Nigeria will never again be lead by those that dine with their tormentors.

And David Mark, GEJ, Senators, Govs and all other top officials you just revealed to us OritseRozay frolics with are not the ones tormenting Nigerians?

azpekuliar: What would otherwise have been a beautiful thread, ruined by the OP's one moment of indiscretion! An open invitation for NL's tribal and ethnic jingoists to engage in their usual diatribes.

But it wasn't a problem when he posted a pic of dead people and labeled it "Genocide in Biafra"? What if people took offense to that and complained that even if that was Biafra what happened was not genocide but "inevitability of war"?

swedbase: There is a difference between accuse but innocent and someone caught in the act, scrutinize and confirm as in the case of
Abacha, Babangida and other northerners

Oh now u know there's a difference because I mentioned Nnamdi Azikiwe, huh?

swedbase: Mention one Igbo person who have looted Nigerian treasury

Nnamdi Azikiwe was the first top Government official to have been accused of dipping in the Treasury.

You can start counting from there....

atlwireles: Gen. Muhammadu Buhari,[/b] who ruled Nigeria between 1983 and 1985, and his successor, Gen. Ibrahim Babangida, gave Abacha the clean bill in Kano yesterday after the rememberance prayers marking 10 years of the death of Abacha, who ruled between 1993 and 1998 -

[b]Gen. Sani Abacha, did not loot the national treasury contrary to the general impression, two military former heads of state have said.


Thisday 9 June 2008

Let's assume your story is true (even though I doubt it) You expected them to go to a dead man's memorial and speak Ill of him? At least they didn't turn around and give him National Honors like Goodluck Jonathan did. Nor did they pardon an international fugitive, either.

swedbase: Northerners destroyed this country.

All the tribes in Nigeria destroyed the country.

HowFar: We should ban them in nigeria too and all are terrorist problems would be over. There's one terrorist organisation from the muslims in nigeria every decade e.g Maitatsine. Lets ban Islam.

Christianity is a bigger problem in your country because the leaders are usually a bunch if scammers stealing from the congregation using the name of God to fund a lavish lifestyle.

Sirniyeh: https://themuslimissue./2013/05/22/japan-the-land-without-muslims/comment-page-3/

There are countries in the world, mainly in Europe, that are presently undergoing significant cultural transformations as a result of Muslim immigration. France, Germany, Belgium and Holland are interesting examples of cases where immigration from Muslim countries, together with the Muslims’ high fertility rate, effects every area of life. It is interesting to know that there is a country in the world whose official and public approach to the Muslim matter is totally different.

This country is Japan. This country keeps a very low profile on all levels regarding the Muslim matter: On the diplomatic level, senior political figures from Islamic countries almost never visit Japan, and Japanese leaders rarely visit Muslim countries. The relations with Muslim countries are based on concerns such as oil and gas, which Japan imports from some Muslim countries. The official policy of Japan is not to give citizenship to Muslims who come to Japan, and even permits for permanent residency are given sparingly to Muslims.

Japan forbids exhorting people to adopt the religion of Islam (Dawah), and any Muslim who actively encourages conversion to Islam is seen as proselytizing to a foreign and undesirable culture.

Few academic institutions teach the Arabic language. It is very difficult to import books of the Qur’an to Japan, and Muslims who come to Japan, are usually employees of foreign companies.

The official policy of the Japanese authorities is to make every effort not to allow entry to Muslims, even if they are physicians, engineers and managers sent by foreign companies that are active in the region. Japanese society expects Muslim men to pray at home.

Japanese companies seeking foreign workers specifically note that they are not interested in Muslim workers. Anywhere a Muslim lives, the neighbors become uneasy.

Japan forbids the establishment of Islamic organizations, so setting up Islamic institutions such as mosques and schools is almost impossible. In Tokyo there is only one imam.

In contrast with what is happening in Europe, very few Japanese are drawn to Islam. If a Japanese woman marries a Muslim, she will be considered an outcast by her social and familial environment.

There is no application of Shari’a law in Japan. There is some food in Japan that is halal, kosher according to Islamic law, but it is not easy to find it in the supermarket.

The Japanese approach to Muslims is also evidenced by the numbers: in Japan there are 127 million residents, but only ten thousand Muslims, less than one hundredth of a percent. The number of Japanese who have converted is thought to be few.

In Japan there are a few tens of thousands of foreign workers who are Muslim, mainly from Pakistan, who have managed to enter Japan as workers with construction companies. However, because of the negative attitude towards Islam they keep a low profile.

There are several reasons for this situation:

First, the Japanese tend to lump all Muslims together as fundamentalists who are unwilling to give up their traditional point of view and adopt modern ways of thinking and behavior. In Japan, Islam is perceived as a strange religion, that any intelligent person should avoid.

Second, In Japan, religion is connected to the nationalist concept, and prejudices exist towards foreigners whether they are Chinese, Korean, Malaysian or Indonesian, and Westerners don’t escape this phenomenon either. There are those who call this a “developed sense of nationalism” and there are those who call this “racism”. It seems that neither of these is wrong. And

Third, the Japanese dismiss the concept of monotheism and faith in an abstract god, because their world concept is apparently connected to the material, not to faith and emotions. Christianity exists in Japan and is not regarded negatively

False, Christianity is given the same treatment by Japan that every other "foreign" religion is given.

ruffhandu: No fact in this at all. Niger Delta Militants get their arms from Europe (Ukrain, Russia, etc) and perhaps US, in exchange of Crude, never from Boko Haram. Boko Haram does it's own kidnapping in the North.
This is an American bedtime story.

How many times have you handled these transactions between terrorists and arms dealers? If you think Niger-Delta terrorists and BH are not in cahoots you're deluded.

popplm: I dont Know why a governor that claimed to have done well in his first tenure as a governor will keep sending sms to people in the state to beg for there vote. I received a customized sms with AREGBESOLA's name tonight that state thus: "Ogbeni rauf aregbesola leekan si! Jowo dibo re fun" (means "pls vote for Mr rauf aregbesola once again as the governor)...can anyone tell me if that is the part of democracy and how it is done everywhere.

Thats how u campaign in civilized countries, not handing out expired rice and money so that gullible people can sell their destiny.

collynzov5: Absolute trash!
If sport events ''require'' the presence of your so called Americans, who says the rally doesn't require the presence of Osun people? Are rallies meant for empty seats?
If the people went to the rally because they had nothing better to do according to you, we can also assume Americans go to sport events because the have nothing better to do too.
You are not smart at all.

If half of the people there had jobs, they wouldnt be there.

ba7man: GEJ till 2019!!!!


This is a popular slogan and supporters of President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan do not hesistate to announce it to anyone that questions the action of our President.

Yes, this slogan is aimed at strengthening the goal of GEJ's re-election but his supporters might have created more enemies than friends while enjoying their "5 mins of fame" in the political scenery of Nigeria so the implications of their actions is what we seek to discuss beyond "2015 or 2019".

Which brings me to this question, Supposing GEJ is re-elected and he rounds up his term in 2019, "WHAT NEXT FOR THE SUPPORTERS OF GEJ beyond 2015 or 2019"??

Either they'll switch support to the next person he assists in imposing on Nigeria, or they'll continue supporting him till after 2019 because I personally dont think GEJ intends to leave power anytime soon. If he gets reelected in '15-19 he will rule beyond that...mark my words.Remember that 7yr single term rule? His very first bill and the topic the consumed the country for the first year of his Presidency? Dont-- for even one second--- think he wont revisit it if he feels hes popular enough or has enough backing from his people. Its just the African way, its the Nigerian way, they hate to give up power.

Quote me in 2019.

collynzov5: We get bigger crowd than that in such societies even on Monday afternoons watching football, baseball, rugby, cricket or whatever in several parts of those countries simulataneously. Come up with another trash.
All the ''I live abroad'' people on nairaland will not let us hear something.
Mtchewwww

I'm assuming by "Football" you meant soccer because those other sports you mentioned above (apart from baseball) are foreign to Americans. And before your unhappiness that you were birthed in a decadent society consumes you I'd like you to understand where I was coming from, yes, huge crowds do go to events that require their presence but most of the people at that rally are undeniably there because they don't have anything better to do with their lives...or time.

Bizibi: that is Nigeria journalism fr u and nigerians just believe what they publish......

The writing seems pretty American, if you ask me. Nigerian Journalists write like they didn't graduate 2nd grade.

collynzov5: When I opened a thread and shared similar pictures before the Ekiti elections, some said they were hired, some said they turned out to see the ''clueless'' man who has been ''misruling'' Nigeria, others siad they came to collect money and still vote for APC,...............BUT the election result told us a COMPLETELY different story.
What do they have to say this time around?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuCkZuvCAAAGDIM.jpg

Well, you gotta agree that it's because most of them are jobless. If it was a society where every facet of the economy functioned 24/7 and people were needed to man almost every position, I doubt you'd see such crowd even on a Saturday afternoon.

callmenow: What a speculative thrash? Let me try this one. Omoyele Sowore of Sahara Reporters is being treated at a secret location of a debilitating illness. It is alleged by 'insiders' that he is afflicted by HIV/AIDS and 'kidney failure'. His recent trip to India for the treatment of a 'headache' has not been ascertained by 'Nigerian' Journalists who has been investigating this 'human issue' story. meanwhile, Mr Omoyele Sowore is said to be comatose and 'friends' are planning to 'repatriate' him to Nigeria for anointing by TB Joshua/ and possible death.

You just made yourself appear like the stark illiterate which you obviously are.

BadBoy25: how old are you?

Of what significance is this question.

AkinEgba: You be prophet?

Youre not Rudolf Okonkwo. I'd know if it was him. I taught him in Massachusetts when he went to school on the North Shore and he was a constant visitor to my home where we usually discussed political issues concerning his homeland. I know his writing like the back if my hand.

He'll know who this is if it's him. It's not Rudolf.

d61073: Story & Reason Behind Israel & Palestine Issue

After World war II when Hitler started killing the Jews in Germany, they left Germany & went to search for new home, Muslims in Palestine welcomed & helped them as JEWS & MUSLIMS are called as Cousins. So Palestine gave their land to them. If you see the world Map before 1945, Israel didnt exist.

From 1941 - 1948 in the span of these 8 years, 259 Terrorist attacks were conducted by Jewsih Terrorist via Many Organization like "IRGUN" "Stern Gang" "Haganah". The most famous event was of King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22ND JULY 1946 which was done by "IRGUN" which was headed by "Menachem Begin". In this terrorist attack total 91 Innocent people were killed , 28 Britisher, 45 Arabs, 17 Jews & 5 other. This Irgun Group dressed up like Muslims Arabs while doing this attack so that it looks like that MUslims have done this attacks. At this time "Menachem Begin" was declared as the No. 1 Terrorist by Britishers. The Irgun" believed that any means it is necessary to establish the Jewish State of Israel in Palestine. 

Later on after few years when they got the power they established thier Jewish State Israel in Palestine & "Menachem Begin" was the prime minister of Israel & after few years he also got the noble Prize for "PEACE". Imagine a person who was responsible for killing so many people get a "NOBLE PRIZE". All the other Terrorist organization of Jews & thier respective leader became the Prime Minister & high holding ranks in the state of Israel.

Now the palestinians muslims fighting with these jews for just cause as they want thier land back so jews stated the palestinians as terrorist. Just Imagine if a traveller comes to your house for a help & you helped him & after few days he kicked you from your own house & you has labelled as terrorrist now.

Hitler was the one who killed 6 Million jews in Germany & kicked them from Germany, why these jews came to palestine , they should have fought for thier land in Germany but palestine Muslim welcomed them with a great heart & now they are kicking palestine from thier home.

Today Palestinians are called as Terrorist for what ? they just want thier own land back. Most of the countries are agreed with this UNJUST cause.

Looks like the same thing is gonna happen in a certain part of Nigeria in the nearest future because the supposed "cultured" ones can't see that once visitors start overrunning your home, eventually they'll believe they have a stake in it and the next thing is to kick you out of your own bedroom and take it over.

d61073: Story & Reason Behind Israel & Palestine Issue

After World war II when Hitler started killing the Jews in Germany, they left Germany & went to search for new home, Muslims in Palestine welcomed & helped them as JEWS & MUSLIMS are called as Cousins. So Palestine gave their land to them. If you see the world Map before 1945, Israel didnt exist.

From 1941 - 1948 in the span of these 8 years, 259 Terrorist attacks were conducted by Jewsih Terrorist via Many Organization like "IRGUN" "Stern Gang" "Haganah". The most famous event was of King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22ND JULY 1946 which was done by "IRGUN" which was headed by "Menachem Begin". In this terrorist attack total 91 Innocent people were killed , 28 Britisher, 45 Arabs, 17 Jews & 5 other. This Irgun Group dressed up like Muslims Arabs while doing this attack so that it looks like that MUslims have done this attacks. At this time "Menachem Begin" was declared as the No. 1 Terrorist by Britishers. The Irgun" believed that any means it is necessary to establish the Jewish State of Israel in Palestine. 

Later on after few years when they got the power they established thier Jewish State Israel in Palestine & "Menachem Begin" was the prime minister of Israel & after few years he also got the noble Prize for "PEACE". Imagine a person who was responsible for killing so many people get a "NOBLE PRIZE". All the other Terrorist organization of Jews & thier respective leader became the Prime Minister & high holding ranks in the state of Israel.

Now the palestinians muslims fighting with these jews for just cause as they want thier land back so jews stated the palestinians as terrorist. Just Imagine if a traveller comes to your house for a help & you helped him & after few days he kicked you from your own house & you has labelled as terrorrist now.

Hitler was the one who killed 6 Million jews in Germany & kicked them from Germany, why these jews came to palestine , they should have fought for thier land in Germany but palestine Muslim welcomed them with a great heart & now they are kicking palestine from thier home.

Today Palestinians are called as Terrorist for what ? they just want thier own land back. Most of the countries are agreed with this UNJUST cause.

Looks like the same thing is gonna happen in a certain part of Nigeria in the nearest future because the supposed "cultured" ones can't see that once visitors start overrunning your home, eventually they'll believe they have a stake in it and the next thing is to kick you out of your own bedroom.

ba7man: I still don't understand the morals of Hamas for carrying out their rocket strikes in the midst of civillian population with the aim of drawing "gullible" sympathy from civillian casualties from Isreali retalliation.

Sounds to me like the same exact move Col.Ojukwu took during the Biafran/Nigeria war when he starved innocent kids in his attempts at propaganda.

emmanuel4758: Igbo have similar culture with Israel so I think saying Igbo is Jews is not wrong cus we might be the divided tribe who later scatter all over world if you doubt me check behavior of Igbo man and Israel man and there norms and culture

If you're ever opportune to see a Jew face to face before you die, tell him EXACTLY What you wrote up there.

AkinEgba: How about the bombs being thrown by Hamas? As a war-loving group, Hamas should have used their money to buy domes as well. They are not smart and they are also the ones putting civilians in harms way by firing from residential areas. Don't you observe that as soon as Israel began a land war in Gaza, many Israeli soldiers have been killed? So, the domes in Israel gives them the advantage. Hamas should do the same. One-on-one and bomb-for-bomb, Israel will not readily defeat Hamas: it's the dome, stu--pid!!

And BTW, I am completely neutral as I see both Israelis and Arabs as the same type of people: a bunch of wicked and heartless peoples fitting of each other.

And Israel bought the dome itself or---like the rest of its Military apparatus --- it was financed by the United States?

If you have nothing to do with the assassination attempt allegations why is it on your lips every two seconds? You don't have to beg SSS to investigate you if you aren't guilty, you just let them do their job.

I'm starting to believe Dokubo Asari knows more about the attempt on Buhari's life.