woky:
so bros don find him missing rib.. where my torch

congratulations on your union bro.
may God bless your union with lots of happiness and sweet memorable times.

Ubenedictus:
See ur head, u don go chop papal blessing abi?

jnrbayano:


I'm bubbling

They are gossiping with my name upandan...

jnrbayano:


Glad to see you.

How are you?

Syncan:


Some people were getting scared of taking that step o, since you disappeared afterwards. You better reassure them o.

Syncan:


Are my eyes deceiving me?

hurricaneChris:


married man


Good to see you bro

Ubenedictus:
iyemwen eeh! the spirits have come down to play with the mere mortals

jnrbayano:
I enjoyed all your answers to Chikk's question.

CC: Ubenedictus, Syncan and SalC

Pls where is Italo?

Can marriage separate us with our beloved brethren? MBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

MrAladin, the landlord, where are you?

tobechi20:
italo


born a catholic.currently a catholic.would probably die a catholic.nairaland catholic defender of the year.

RIOg:
This serious. But I hope she's not been piosioned.

mrZENographer:
MASS! Why won't they sleep?
They're tired of hailing Mary and the queen of heaven.
That is not a spiritual/godly place. No wonder many of them become atheist and instruments of the devil.

AntiIPOB:
is not their fault walahi,untill catholic abadon hail mary.

oaroloye:
. MATTHEW 16:13-20.

13. When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his Disciples, saying,
"Whom do men say that I the Son of Man am?"
14. And they said,
"Some (say that thou art) John the Baptist: some Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the Prophets."
15. He saith unto them,
"But whom say ye that I am?"
16. And Simon Peter answered and said,
"Thou art The Christ, The Son of The Living God."
17. And Jesus answered and said unto him,
"Blessed art thou, Simon bar Jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed (It) unto thee, but my Father Which is in Heaven.
18. "And I say also into thee,

'THAT THOU ART PETER,
AND UPON THIS ROCK
I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH,
AND THE GATES OF HELL
SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.
19. 'AND I WILL GIVE UNTO THEE
THE KEYS OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER THOU SHALT
BIND ON EARTH
SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER THOU SHALT
LOOSE ON EARTH
SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.' "

20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.
21. From that time forth began Jesus
to shew unto his Disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem,
and suffer many things
of the Elders and Chief Priests and Scribes,
and be killed,
and be raised again the Third Day.
22. Then Peter took him,
and began to rebuke him, saying,
"Be it far from thee, Lord:
this shall not be unto thee.
23. But he turned, and said unto Peter,
"Get thee behind me, Satan:
thou art an offence unto me:
for thou savourest not
The Things that be of God,
but those that be of Men."
24. Then said Jesus unto his Disciples,
"If any man will come after me,
let him deny himself,
and take up his cross,
and follow me.
25. "For whosoever will
save his life shall lose it:
and whosoever will
lose his life for my sake
shall find it.
26. "For what is a man profited,
if he shall gain the whole World,
and lose his own Soul?
Or what shall a man give
in exchange for his Soul?
27. "For the Son of Man
shall come
in The Glory of his Father
with his Angels;
and then he shall
Reward every man
according to his Works.
28. "Verily I say unto you,

'THERE BE SOME STANDING HERE,
WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE OF DEATH,
TILL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN
COMING IN HIS KINGDOM.' " b]SHALOM![/b]



TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE, ITALO!

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TAKES MATTHEW 16:18 OUT-OF-CONTEXT, IN ORDER TO INVENT THE FALSE DOCTRINE OF APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION THROUGH PETER- WHO WAS MARRIED, AND WHOM YAHSHUA CALLED "SATAN."

The Roman Catholic Church has definitely built Its Church upon SATAN.

THE ROCK that YAHSHUA was referring to was not a WEAK and FALLIBLE MAN- who could not even PUBLISH THE GOSPEL during his lifetime, but rather SUPPRESSED THE GOSPEL since Yahshua Ascended- but DIVINE REVELATION of IMMUTABLE ESTABLISHMENT.

THE FOUNDATION of The Church is people who were TAUGHT BY GOD that Yahshua is THE CHRIST and THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD- not those who were TAUGHT BY MEN that YAHSHUA is THIS, or YAHSHUA is THAT.

Those who teach that Yahshua is The Christ are ALWAYS DECEIVERS.

The Faith of such people is UNSTABLE.

Those taught by God are IMMOVABLE- as THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS PROVED- when It tried to DESTROY THE TRUE FAITH by TORTURE and MURDER of The True Christians, who had THE TRUE BIBLE- not your EGYPTIAN FORGERY by ORIGEN.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



The True Christians follow Yahshua- not people who PRETEND to follow Yahshua. Such as THE APOSTLES whom THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH foisted upon Christianity.

Yahshua FORBADE his Disciples to become RABBIS and MASTERS over their FELLOW BRETHREN. That is what they did, betraying Yahshua YET AGAIN.

Therefore, ACTS 5 tells the BEGINNING OF CORRUPTION, when THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH CONSENTED to THE MURDER OF ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA.

ACTS 15 tells of the CLIMAX of their Corruption, when they imposed MAN-MADE COMMANDMENTS on the Early Church- including BANNING THE GENTILE CHRISTIANS FROM LEARNING THE BIBLE.

These are the FOOLS you people are following.

Whereas Salvation lies ONLY in following YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS that he gave HIMSELF.

mmsen:


Why is it a 'foolish question'?

Is the Bible wrong? Is the Catholic Church wrong?

mmsen:


I read something, I asked a question - why does that enrage you?

What happened to your 'Christian compassion'?

Is 'God' no longer love, patient, kind and true? Do you not claim to have 'God' in your heart?

dukum:


Indeed brother.people jst act like they know all and talk ignorantly.good to see you bck frm hmooning

kevoh:

I'm also atheist like the OP( without the funny questions though). Guess no Jesus, No peace for me too

mmsen:


Why are you mad at me? I didn't write the nonsense written in the Bible.

kevoh:


Really? That's a new one. italo will love this kind of information and use it to fire the pentecostals. Unfortunately, dude is no longer a regular here.

mmsen:
Why do Catholics refer to priests as 'Father' when the Bible claims that Jesus said:

"Don’t call anyone on earth your father. All of you have the same Father in heaven.
None of you should be called the leader. The Messiah is your only leader."
Matt 23:9 - 10

Any logical answers?

mmsen:

According to this passage...

Akshow:
Watch them develop and grow fast. It is a fact that the least religious countries in the world are the most developed, progressive and peaceful. Religion is a cankerworm that needs to be eradicated. Let's all embrace humanity and know that our greatest callings on earth is to extend our kindness and humanity to humans, animals and the planet instead of some mumbo jumbo religion with an imaginary heaven and earth.

chaosattractor:


Soooo what you're trying to say is that you don't have any sources or counterpoints to the allegations. You just feel that they're not true so we must take your word for it over that of a man that researched and published a whole book on his findings.

Here are some more articles with more sources on the topic:
http://americamagazine.org/content/all-things/vatican-bank-scandal-nobody-talking-about
http://americamagazine.org/issue/culture/follow-money

In fact Pope Francis himself is worried about and has taken action concerning these mere "beer-parlour hateful allegations", trying to clean up the Vatican Bank:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/13/can-pope-francis-clean-up-gods-bank
(That last article is very long but it contains even more sources and historical scandals as well as the current Pope's efforts to audit and overhaul the bank).

Sorry dear, it's your job to prove your allegation. I can't call you a thief and tell you to prove you aren't.

chaosattractor:

A Crusader King that was sent to fight for and with the endorsement of the church and Pope himself. When George Bush sent his generals to wage war in the Middle East did you also say that "general" is not equal to "Bush"? Do we not say that the United States is at war with Iraq, Afghanistan, etc? Please stop trying to deflect blame.

chaosattractor:

Did you miss the part where there were literal children murdered in that massacre? I repeat, these were prisoners-of-war and refugees from the town of Acre that he had just sacked. He had them all murdered except the wealthy ones who could be ransomed, and historians' consensus is that at least one of his reasons was that he didn't want to be responsible for the extra mouths. As if they're the ones that called him all the way from England to come and attack their town and then complain that he cannot feed them.

chaosattractor:


Did you even stop to read what you're typing? This is blatant and callous xenophobia coming from somebody that is proclaiming his church as the most compassionate of all institutions. What happened to "Thou shalt not kill" and "turn the other cheek"? Hypocrisy in high places.

chaosattractor:
Sorry for the late response, I had to shorten the post drastically for Nairaland to accept it.



Logical fallacy. Person A doing evil does not excuse Person B of participating in that evil. Or do you think that when you stand before the God you believe in that you'll say "Mr. So-and-so was also doing it so I have done nothing wrong"? Especially when the church as you claim is supposed to be a moral beacon.

This is why I linked to a source on chattel slavery and the Transatlantic slave trade, not slavery in general. Because if it was the latter I would simply have pointed you to the Bible where slavery is endorsed including branding/mutilation of slaves, beating them and treating them as second-class citizens. See Exodus 21:1, 21:20 and 21:32; Colossians 3:22; Titus 2:9. According to Paul's writings it was a "sin"/wrongdoing for African-American slaves to rise up against their masters or seek freedom.

I can overlook the endorsing of bonded/forced labour and indentured servitude in the Bible, after all it is a product of its time. What I will never condone or overlook are passages and statements that endorse chattel slavery which any student of history can tell you is one of the most egregious violations of human rights that humanity has come up with. Coupled with institutionalized racism in the transatlantic slave trade, which Catholic clergy also participated in. (For those who don't know, chattel slavery is a system in which a slave is considered his master's literal property. He or she is nothing more than another possession and the master is considered to own everything about them including any children they produce. This is the ideology that led to the enslaving of the black race because it was widely believed that black people were their owners' property right from birth or even conception, like farm animals).

1) It was Catholic-majority countries that specialized in chattel slavery.

Kay17:


The Church apparently has an impenetrable veil barring responsibility. All the servants and agents but the Church is responsible!

Ordinarily agents of the Church acting in contravention of its divine instructions ought to be punished. And there are hardly records to show that the Church reprimanded its servants for genocides committed in its name.

Kay17:


An apology for the mere sake of politeness is not a sincere one. A genuine apology is a self acknowledgement of one's error or misdeed. It's a high mark of maturity.

Kay17:




These 3000 people are said to be prisoners of war albeit jihadists. The tag jihadist used to label is not enough to murder them whilst defenceless and unarmed. It is true King Richard had no Geneva Convention to guide him on how to treat prisoners of war, yet it is criminal to justify their killings.

Kay17:


Was there any papal injunction against slavery? Any excommunication against slavers?