₦airaland Forum

Bello ladan: He deserved it! and so what?

Excuse me Sir, are you a muslim?

Boomark: The only people i know that worship trees/wood/stone with carvings made by human imaginations are Catholics. The new one in vogue is veneration of dead meat.

I believe one day we might get more diabolical practices you guys hiding from us.

*ignored* dead old story

davidylan: In the old testament they didnt have the luxury of an in-dwelling Holy Spirit and needed the personal presence of the Lord.

You still havent answered my question. What is the significant of a moldy old heart?

Dear friend, neither have you answered my question. What was the significance of Elisha's bones?

The answer you crave...lies in the answer to my question.

Boomark: John Vianney and his heart is dead.

Talk your own...

The trees that were processed to make that book you worship are dead.

Boomark: Which one is dead tree? are you referring to the bible?

frosbel: Yes , the one that those misled people are worshiping, Pagans !!!!

Then I'm also reffering to the dead trees you misled people are worshipping. Pagans!!!!

davidylan: what is the spiritual significance of his moldy heart?

What was the spiritual significance of Elisha's bones (2Kgs 13:20,21)?

Bidam: Scripture tells us that we are to rely on the Holy Spirit's illumination to gain insights into the meaning and application of Scripture (John 16:12-15; 1 Corinthians 2:9-11).

It is the Holy Spirit's work to throw light upon the Word of God so that the believer can assent to the meaning intended and act on it.

The Holy Spirit, as the "Spirit of truth" (John 16:13), guides us so that "we may understand what God has freely given us" (1 Corinthians 2:12).
This is quite logical: full comprehension of the Word of God is impossible without prayerful dependence on the Spirit of God, for He who inspired the Word (2 Peter 1:21) is also its supreme interpreter.

The millions of people and Churches claiming to be under the influence of the "Holy Spirit" that preach millions of contradictory and differing doctrines (including you and I)...

Is it the same one Holy Spirit that is teaching us millions of different doctrines... or are we being influenced by millions of 'holy spirits?'

May God accept his sacrifice and his soul.

Martyrdom is the height of love.

"Greater love has no man, than to give up his life for his friends."--Jesus Christ.

Boomark: I made my comment base on what i saw here. Well sorry to you guys.

Time will tell if you are truly sorry for slandering us with a LIE. We'll see if you will or will not do it again.

I have 2 questions for you.

1. If you who wasnt the OP of this brainless post have apologized, what do you think is making the OP (frosbel) adamant and refusing to own up to his fault, much less apologize. It seems he would rather die than say "I'm sorry, I was wrong." Is it pride or is it not?

2. If it is pride, who is the source of this pride... God or satan?

Boomark: Which one is dead tree? are you referring to the bible?

Which one is dead meat? are you referring to the heart of St John Vianney?

Tgirl4real: What is the sure way then?

I will tell you plainly at my own time. Please be patient. I want this discussion to be as reasonable as possible. So far there has not been much exchange of reasoning perhaps because some of the fanatics and psychopaths on nairaland have nothing reasonable to add. But I assure you, if I point you to the PILLAR and FOUNDATION of TRUTH, you'll see them rushing in to condemn it without even reasonably addressing the topic of discussion...thereby, derailing the thread.

Tgirl4real: I agree with u here and we need to be careful not to allow personal interpretation to come into play. I doubt thatz what Goshen wanna do.

I doubt that Goshen knowingly wants to allow personal interpretation come into play...but I bet you, he has no choice than to allow his personal interpretation come into play...


I will give you clues to point you to the Authority that transmits God's teaching without error...hoping you will be able to deduce it yourself.

1. How can any fallible person teach you God's doctrine with certainty...when he himself can be wrong about it? It would have to be an infallible entity, wont it?

2. How do you know that the book of "MARK" was written by Mark and that it was inspired by the Holy Spirit? If it was a fallible Authority that told you so, who and when was it? If it was an infallible authority, who and when was it?

Which other interpretation would he use... if not PERSONAL?

I would like to know about this shop "church" and its doctrine too.

ijawkid: You and all who bow down to a dead meat are a very big disgrace to Christ...............


Defending rubbish has now become your custom..................

Nonsense..........

You and all who bow down to a dead trees are a very big disgrace to Christ....... ........


Defending rubbish has now become your custom..................

Nonsense..........

Boomark: After watching listening to the video, i heard the pope mention Jesus. What he said is Seigneur Jesus. If you don't listen well you might not hear it.

And what do you do when you have brought slander upon 1.2 billion people who have done nothing to harm you, by saying something that turned out to be a lie?

What does a follower of Christ do?

yommyuk:

Our accord is Christ.


I am only commenting on the title of your post.
“ (Jesus Not Mentioned In Pope Speech)”
Maybe not in his first speech, but in the second one, He surely did.
So my friend, r u saying that catholics/pope do not believe in Jesus Christ?
Please clarify.

He even mentioned Jesus in his first speech when he prayed the "Hail Mary" in full...

Watch the video above.

I'm very glad you chose this topic to begin with because it is a fundamental topic and nothing can be discussed on the Bible if this issue is not first tackled.

I'll like to keep my contribution as short and concise as possible.

I agree TOTALLY with you 1st post...and I will summarize it in my own words:

*There are millions of differing and contradictory Christian doctrines, and at the most, only ONE can be totally correct...at the least, NONE might be correct. It is impossible for 2 OR MORE to be totally correct, since they differ.

*We must ask "WHO IS RIGHT?" and get an answer because God could not have deliberately left us without a means of interpreting and/or understanding/knowing his teaching.

EXCELLENT!!!

However, I disagree with your 2nd post saying essentially that the sure way to arrive at the truth is to "let scripture interpret scripture." While it is good to read a verse in context and compare and contrast it with other verses and passages, it is by no means a sure way of arriving at the truth.

WHY DO I SAY THIS? - By saying "let scripture interpret scripture," what you are saying, perhaps without knowing, is 'instead of interpreting the first passage, let MY INTERPRETATION of the other verse(s)/passage(s) interpret the first verse/passage.'

That logic does not hold...nor guarantee you arriving at the truth.

Infact all those "churches" that teach contradictory doctrines claim to do that. They claim to put scripture against scripture to arrive at the truth...yet they teach millions of contradictory and differing doctrines.

WHY? Because they are putting, not "scripture against scripture" but 'their interpretation of scripture against their interpretation of scripture.'

Na wa o... Na different different kind crase dey o

CAMEROONPRIDE: says who? Any link?

http://www.prb.org/Articles/2005/TheChangingDemographicsofRomanCatholics.aspx http://www.pewforum.org/Christian/Catholic/The-Global-Catholic-Population.aspx

need more?

EMILO2STAY: ^^^
abeg this man close ur mouth. Must u reply with meaningless words all the time?, Sometimes i wonder if ur twelve years old.

Sorry brother. Please teach me to act in a mature way.

You are all doing all you can to keep worshipping dead trees and sinful men. What a shame!

DID THE POPE MENTION JESUS OR DID HE NOT MENTION JESUS?

CAMEROONPRIDE: stop deceiving yourself, I saw countless of threads here, where you guys talked about an African pope. Just admit that they Bleep.ed you one more time.
Anyway keep taking it deep sha, a cow like u can't understand that religion is the opium of the people.

Most of those threads insisting on a "black pope" were by non-Catholics. Majority of Catholics thought it would be nice to have a black or African pope, but were not too keen on it. What they wanted most was a Pope after God's heart...and I think we got it so we are very happy.

That's why I'm wondering why you want to kill yourself when Catholics all over the world are happy with the Pope we have.

CAMEROONPRIDE: sharrap and go back to your traditions

You dont decide what Catholics do with their lives, do you?

How does it concern you still?

Boomark: Is this not a simple truth. In his speech, he did not mention Jesus not to talk of Christ. May be he was in haste to go and pray in madona.

My friend you are a jealous, bitter and shameless liar and hater of the Catholic Church.

Address the topic of the thread. Did the Pope mention JESUS or not? The video above says he did; you and frosbel say he didnt. Who should we believe?