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italo: Protestants worshipping the Bible

By the way no one has shown me where 'worshipping' the bible was practised in the Bible.

Must it be Catholics always doing the "showing?"

frosbel: hate Catholics so much is a known ploy from people like you to discredit me.

I have never ONCE stated any hate for anyone talk less of Catholics , half my family are members for your info and we get on just fine

My crux is with the institution , the organisation , the false system of worship and belief.

If you cannot tell the difference , my apologies.

Everybody on nairaland knows. It doesnt matter what you say.

How does it concern you people?

We Catholics are not complaining.

I tire! lol

chukwudi44: Na only pentecostals be God's generals

She rejected him and never saw him again... Now she seeks to associate her name with his.

Human beings! Women!

frosbel: There is a misconception in some quarters which I will like to correct. This is on the subject of HATE.

It has been misconstrued by some individuals that I am vehemently intolerant and more horrifyingly , hateful of Catholics especially , and others who I do not agreed with on a number of issues.

First of all , I will cease to be a Christian if this were indeed true.

I think you ceased to be a long time ago.

frosbel: Secondly it is a ploy by some religious individuals and their atheist backers to shut me up by way of discrediting my person.

Is it the religious people and Atheist backers that make you spread lies and untruths on nairaland and make you run away when it becomes clear to everyone that you are making a fool of yourself? Is it these people that made you lie that the Pope didnt mention Jesus in his inaugural speech when even video evidence shows that he did? Is it the same people that make you unable to humble yourself and apologize for the lie? Nobody is discrediting you. Nobody can. You are the one making a nuisance of yourself.

frosbel: Can I kindly say that while I may go on and on about the Catholics , tithers , trinitarians etc, I do actually LOVE them ALL and hold not ONE grudge, bitterness or HATE to any of them.

Talk is cheap. The contrary is evident... Making up lies to slander the Catholic Church.

frosbel: For starters this is an anonymous forum so I will be crazy to hate people I cannot see.

Who said you are not crazy?

frosbel: The only thing I beg you all to help me with is TRUTH. Let TRUTH be 100% TRUTH and not 90% TRUTH diluted with 10% LIEs which really is the worst kind of LIE.

Tell us then, the truth about the pope's speech: did he mention JESUS or did he not?

frosbel: I believe in absolutes when it comes to Jesus Christ, you cannot believe in him and contradict his person, purpose and goals , you just cannot.

[quote author=frosbel]So stop calling something Christianity when it is not, the saying that 'if it walks and quacks like a duck it must be a duck ' does not apply to Jesus Christ. You can walk the walk and talk the talk as a show on the outside , and be a heretic by twisting his words and misrepresenting his person and purpose.

Jesus Christ stands for something and that is absolute TRUTH, do not add to his words.

Then why do you stand for lies and call yourself his follower?

I'll be glad to discuss issues here. But I hope it is not only open to those who agree with you... I hope it will be open to all.

frosbel: ^^^


still trying to defend paganism ? SMH.

Protestants worshipping the Bible

[quote author=i.chuka]@OP
Atleast he quoted a verse from the bible ..Matthew6:9-13.
But merely quoting scriptures dnt indicate if one is a Christain or not[/quote]

proo212: Sadly Frosbel is on point. I dont agree with him on some things but even I heard that speech. I listened again to be sure of what he said and yes the Madonna bit just threw me. The bible says Jesus is coming to rapture a church without spot or wrinkle (not madonna).

Someone accused him (Frosbel) of pride, but pride here will be constantly hearing the truth and not walking away from because of history or sentiment.

And for me I admit I got it wrong about who was going to be elected Pope. He was not one of the favourites.

Why are you guys such shameless liars? Dont you even fear God?

Frosbel said the Pope didnt mention "JESUS" in his speech.

But the man clearly mentioned JESUS as he said the "Hail Mary" in full.

View this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtPSTGfQzHw and check on 2:05 min

Boomark: Have you seen that there was no place in the bible relics were used. Keeping relics amounts to keeping idols. It is not scriptural. So beware of what those you call church fathers feed you with.

italo: 2 Kings 13:21:

Elisha died and was buried. At the time, bands of Moabites used to raid the land each year. Once some people were burying a man, when suddenly they spied such a raiding band. So they cast the dead man into the grave of Elisha and everyone went off. But when the man came in contact with the bones of Elisha, he came back to life and rose to his feet.

www.catholic.com

Boomark: Who among them carried Elisha's body and placed it in a room or in the temple where it is venerated? waiting for answers...

2 Kings 18:4
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
He removed the high places, and broke the images, and cut down the idol poles, and broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made: for until those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

You guys did not add the brazen serpent as one of the proofs. I have said it before, the cross or anything you offer incense to is an idol.

So you agree Elisha's body was used as a relic...your problem now with Catholics is that it wasnt used as a relic and in the temple or a room and venerated there.

My friend, I have always known your brain to be sour, it is better to discuss with plants than with you.

You dont even know what the difference is between relics and idols...

Boomark: How can i kill my self when am sure i want to help you people. Receiving my help is not by force. And am not doing it to lay hands on you tithe because am not a tithe pastor.

Just know that the road to destruction is very broad.

So does that mean that Christianity being the world's largest religion, is the road to destruction?

The bitterness people like you and frosbel feel is palpable even from the internet. You're just jealous of the continuous progress of God's Church so you even go as far as looking for faults where there is none. At a time when even the worst unbelievers are acclaiming the new pope as a humble and simple man, it is eating you haters up and you had to come up with this rubbish.

Have you ever spoken good about the Catholic Church? I challenge you to bring a quote of yours to that effect.

I'm getting you.

'Jesus' millions of Churches teach millions of contradictory doctrines, including the gay "church" that teaches that homosexuality is okay in God's eyes'

You have a right to your opinion and I get you...only I disagree.

Enigma: I think we should be mindful of the truthful state of all denominations - whether Catholic, Anglican, Evangelical, Pentecostal not to talk of the disgrace that is the "prosperity gospel"! We all have things seriously wrong with us institutionally and of course even as individuals; we all have things wrong with both our doctrines and our practices.

Some may get some things right and others wrong and vice versa for others (if you know what I mean)

Just to correct you where you deliberately go wrong.

The Catholic Church is not a denomination. It is God's one true Church and so there can be nothing wrong with its doctrine as it is God's doctrine. At least that is what the Catholic Church says about itself.

Stop trying to glorify and validate your ecclesial community by referring to it as a denomination among many, including the Catholic Church.

Jesus doesnt like millions of communities teaching contradictory doctrines and lying that they are all inspired by the one Holy Spirit...and you know it.

The line cannot be blurred. There is only one Church founded by Jesus 2000yrs ago. It was the Catholic Church. No "denominations."

ijawkid: Abeg na when u see JW worship dead tree??

They came to my house to preach to me, they said let us pray, they held a bunch of papers processed from dead trees (they called their "bibles", they bowed their heads and worshipped it.

Should I have brought out my phone and taken their picture in the middle of their worship for you to see...as if you dont know you do that.

If that is what you want, tell me and I will do it. I have their number and can easily trick them to come and preach their heresy to me. But will you agree that Jehovah's witnesses worship dead trees if i do that?

I am my own source... I am the one that says so. So is it true?

Kirinwa: It's been said in various forums that the new Pope Francis 1 is an Antichrist. Is it true?


http://m.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/news/forums-strive-connect-new-pope-antichrist-phophecy/1791694/

It's been said that Kirinwa is an Antichrist. Is it true?

Is this thread still about the Pope mentioning Jesus or not?

Or is the OP desperately trying to derail his own thread because the pope has made him out to be a fool?

"When one does not profess JESUS CHRIST, one professes the worldliness of the devil."--Pope Francis.

frosbel: This is almost like a horror movie, bowing before an over 300 year old piece of mummified flesh ? wow !!!

It is even more horrific to worship dead trees.

Boomark: I wonder what could make me envy their practices. If i had interest in dibia(native doctors) practices, then i can join their modern institution.

When people like you and frosbel see that, despite your attacks and efforts to discredit the Catholic Church, God's children all over the world (Catholics, non-Catholic Christians, Muslims, Bhuddists, Hindus, Atheists etc) are still powerfully drawn to their Mother, the Church, and it continues to grow from strength to strength, you feel like killing yourself, I'm sure.

frosbel: ^^^

My CELE friend, looks like you are trying to confuse two speeches . One on his election 2 days ago and another today.

It remains that the catholic church is PAGAN.

The most dangerous LIE is the LIE that has TRUTH mixed with it.

Oh! So now the pope calls "Jesus" abi... He has suddenly repented abi...

My friend, stop making a fool of your jealous self.

frosbel: You must be confused .

Jealous of a PAGAN institution that I was once part of and left

Praise to Jesus , the real Father of the Church.

Atheists call Christianity "superstition" yet spend their whole life on it.

Anti-Catholics call Catholicism "paganism" yet spend their whole life on it.

There's just something so powerful and attractive about The Truth.

free2ryhme: i rather believe the bible the word of God that believe catholic the word from men

Where is it written in the Bible that "the BIBLE is the word of God?"

free2ryhme: These are lies that pple are meant to believe .. Hail Mary was a greeting and never intend to be a prayer or title.... The bible never used the word catholic church but Body of Christ .. this is common knowledge obvious in the new testaments

Brother, you seem to be arguing with someone but it isnt me...because I am not arguing with you. I said show me where to find this Church if it isnt the Catholic Church. Simple. So please, where is this Church that Christ instituted?

Regarding "Hail Mary," show me the Catholic who says it is a title...or did you just manufacture that from your belly as you people do?

>>>And do you not know that greetings are an essential part of prayer?

Boomark: Have you seen that there was no place in the bible relics were used. Keeping relics amounts to keeping idols. It is not scriptural. So beware of what those you call church fathers feed you with.

2 Kings 13:21:

Elisha died and was buried. At the time, bands of Moabites used to raid the land each year. Once some people were burying a man, when suddenly they spied such a raiding band. So they cast the dead man into the grave of Elisha and everyone went off. But when the man came in contact with the bones of Elisha, he came back to life and rose to his feet.

www.catholic.com

Even after you and frosbel die of jealousy, the Catholic Church will continue to grow from strength to strength.

Viva il Papa!

free2ryhme: Jesus instituted The church( the body of christ) and not the catholic church (the body of celibate men) men instituted that.

Brother, show me where to find this Church that Christ instituted, if it is not the Catholic Church.

free2ryhme: Can You describe the idea behinde hail mary?

You will have to ask the one who first said "Hail Mary!" Angel Gabriel... And I'm sure he will tell you it was God's message he was carrying, so ask God where he got the idea from and tell me. I also want to know.

ijawkid: italo I can't believe you would defend the worshipping of a dead meat......I tire big time for ona...............

As for me you can't catch me with your wayo ways of going around this worship issue......

1..I bow to no man.....
2...I don't bow before my bible....

Can you please from the scriptures or maybe from Jesus' actions here on earth justify why your clerics would bow down before a piece of dead rotten archaic meat......??

Yes... If you can justify why Jehovah's Witnesses worship their dead trees and why Ijaw people worship their elders... at least i have personally witnessed these things.

frosbel: you are whistling that your catholic bishops are bowing before a rotten piece of flesh ?

Pagans !!

No. That your fellow protestants are worshipping dead trees.

it has always been hate