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Goshen360: @ Ijawkid, did you missed the explanation or short exposition up there?

His eyes saw it, but his brain couldnt process and comprehend it.

ijawkid: We all know Jesus was speaking from the spiritual perspective and not biological.........

Call no man Father(title)............like I said earlier some call there clerics holy Father sef.............

Who added "title," Jesus or you?

*whistling*

emmasege: catholic faith is also beautiful, but for some of these imported human traditions. It is indisputably the oldest christian denomination, which also makes it the first church.

emmasege: The catholic church I see today is not the same as the church instituted by Christ, going by biblical records.

You are saying the Catholic Church was the first Church but it was not instituted by Christ. That means Christ didnt institute any Church (but we know that he did).

Make up your mind, my friend. Is the Catholic Church the first Church instituted by Christ or not?

My friend, if you have nothing intelligible to say, be quiet.

YORUBA PEOPLE WORSHIPPING THEIR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS TOO ABI?

Zooposki: Why are you and ubenedectus using all sorts of trickery and deceit to try and win this argument. You both are even worse than Satan your father.

How am i using trickery and deceit to try to win this argument? Care to explain?

And how am I worse than satan your father?

Dont just make unintelligent emotional statements...explain them with reason.

Non-Catholics worshipping sinners.

The Holy Spirit clearly doesnt work in the same frequency as the media and analysts.

Let them keep saying rubbish.

You say that we worship "dead meat" but you worship DEAD TREES... Yes, thats what paper is made from... DEAD TREES.

And you can kneel, bow and worship a book (a bunch of papers) but the problem arises when Catholics venerate anything. Hypocrites!

so non-Catholics can worship sinful men that pose as men of God, but when Catholics venerate the bodies of people we believe are saints and with God in heaven...it suddenly becomes a problem... Hypocrites!

frosbel: Our Father ...

Hail Mary ...

Glory to the Father ...

Hail Mary, full of grace,
the Lord is with you,
blessed are you among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb JESUS,
holy Mary, mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

Google it...

italo: I would like to debate all of you at the same time...but that is practically impossible.

So will the one who has never bowed before anything (living or non-living) please step forward.

I want to have a word with you.

Goshen360: Stepped forward! Can I hear what you gat to say?

I guess that means the rest of you have bowed (or still bow) before living/non-living things. E.g Bible, elders, a respectable crowd, a dignitary, a pastor, altar etc...

What then is your problem with Catholics? You do what we do.

shdemidemi: I never said grace seized...I said all the powers that Jesus gave the disciples were to them and for them alone . This miracles and wonders are not the gospel. They were signs leading to the gospel.
As for John 14:12, read it properly cos He was not talking about miracles. he was talking about his works/gospel and not miracles

Won't you just shut up and stop speaking heresy?

WorKs are different from worDs. Even the dullest pupil in kindergarten class would know that.

John 10: 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

37 "Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”

His works are clearly not just his words.

The more you talk, the more you talk rubbish.

What about Mark 11:23? Still concocting another heresy?

And look behind you...all your fans have deserted you.

Goshen360: Stepped forward! Can I hear what you gat to say?

Thank you Sir.

What exactly is your problem with what the Catholics did?

I would like to debate all of you at the same time...but that is practically impossible.

So will the one who has never bowed before anything (living or non-living) please step forward.

I want to have a word with you.

shdemidemi: The powers were just to the 11 special messengers. Therefore, no miracle would happen through the name of Christ if they are not present. All the powers (miracle,signs and wonders )seized after a while.
You will now see Apostle Paul tell Timothy to drink wine to ease his pain and all that.
No man at this present time has the power to do miracles,forgive e.t.c
All the powers Jesus gave them were SIGNS e.g (when u travel, u see signs that lead u to whr u r going). They were temporal.

First of all, have you noticed that all your fans who cheered you on have suddenly backed off?

My dear, you are grossly misinformed about the gospel. You were wrong about 'confession' and you are wrong about miracles.

Mark 11:23: “Truly I tell you, if ANYONE says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them.

John 14:12: "I tell you the truth, ANYONE who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father."

Did you see that?! "ANYONE!!!" "ANYONE!!!"

You just keep contradicting Jesus.

shdemidemi: @italo

Jesus was talking to his Disciples/Apostles and his disciples alone here...not u nor me nor the pope or any pastor.

Do you mean Jesus was giving the power to forgive and retain sin to only the people who were present in the room?

shdemidemi: The gospel has shifted/moved from what it was thought by the Apostles of Christ who pioneered it. Even after strict warnings from Apostle Paul that we should stand firm on the foundation and the traditions which has been laid.

shdemidemi: The Pope forgive sinners who make confessions to him,

John 20: 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

It seems like the popes and priests are practising the tradition of the apostles and you are the one against it.

What do you think?

Goshen360: 26When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want—cattle, sheep, goats, [size=14pt]wine, or other alcoholic drink.[/size]

@ Olaadegbu, I subsribe to this post. If you will not address Goshen, you can address your response to me. At least, I never said the OT wasn't applicable to Christians.

...Or will you find another flimsy excuse, as usual?

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God."

lagerwhenindoubt: a perambulating question that when answered would only lead you further into the deep evil forest of religion

What is "EVIL" and who defines it?

benodic: i am clearly not surprised.
experience has shown me that most Atheists live the principles of Life while most religious people only pay lip service to them living a hypocritical and hollow life. the principle of "Be yourself" and "let others be" are 2 very important principles that if applied in life will make human interaction such a wonderful thing that it was meant to be in the first place.

Who declares what are "the principles of life?"

If you believed in "letting others be," you wouldn't be on this "Religion Section."

How do you know human interaction was meant to be a wonderful thing...if there's no God?

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God."

Do the Muslims believe this part of the Bible or they just pick and choose the parts that favour that fallacy?

So this is what you mean by:

christemmbassey: all d rcc members who shamelessly defended this evil

How is that poster defending the "EVIL" (sexual misconduct)?

He is essentially saying: 'he thinks Cardinal O'Brein did no such thing. He might be wrong (afterall, O'Brein has admitted) but he never defended the EVIL.

You too have some apologizing and/or recanting to do.

frosbel: The post has explained it properly but you seem to be confused.

Bottom line is the POPE does not qualify to be a Christian, talk less of Father , Talk less of HOLY.

He is the Antithesis of all that Christ stood for and is a direct enemy of GOD.

Does God want us to call NO MAN "father" or does he allow us to call SOME MEN "father" and prohibit us from calling THE OTHERS "father?"

The wolf in sheep clothing can't make up his mind whether we can call people "father" or not.

One second, he says 'don't call anyone father;' the next second he says 'Paul was a father.'

Which one is it?

Does God want us to call NO MAN "father" or does he allow us to call SOME MEN "father" and prohibit us from calling THE OTHERS "father?"

christemmbassey: pls go through this thread and sef for urself. Am nöt against anybody but its s6 disgusting to see what ppl posted in support this evil.

First you said "all the RCC members who shamelessly defended this evil just because the culprit was a cardinal in RCC..."

Now you can't show us a single quote by a single Catholic defending the cardinal's action.

What kind of people are we living with?!

frosbel: What is HOLY about the POPE is my first question ?

The first question on this thread was:

"Dear 'Holy Father,' the pope. Don't you know what Jesus commanded? 'Call no man father!'"

And you are the OP.

Anyway I'm not surprised you can't remember the first question since all you do is 'copy and paste.'

So I ask again, a question that has confounded all of you until now:

Does God want us to call NO MAN "father" or does he want us allow us to call SOME MEN "father" and prohibit us from calling THE OTHERS "father?"