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OLAADEGBU:
You have forgotten that you have to be part of the body of Christ before you can partake of this holy communion and it does not mean that you have to bring Jesus Christ down from heaven for Him to die again and again.

"Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord" (1 Corinthians 11:27)

OLAADEGBU:
Does this Bible support all the false teachings contained in your catechisms I listed in the thread I posted some time ago?

==> https://www.nairaland.com/2422498/list-false-teachings-roman-catholic

OLAADEGBU:
You should also show us where in the Bible used priests and confessionals in the Church of Christ. Check the link I suggested above to find out my reasons for the bolded. ==> http://www.hope-of-israel.org/magus.html

OLAADEGBU:
You missed it again. Jesus brought us a relationship with God through His blood and not to make us religious. If it were to make us more religiou He would not have stepped out of eternity to suffer on the Cross for our sins.

OLAADEGBU:
This is the problem of religious folks. Our Lord Jesus Christ is the head of the Church and until you begin to develop a personal relationship with our Him (Jesus) you cannot become a part of the body (Church) of Christ.

OLAADEGBU:
Read your Bible to see how Simon Peter rebuked Simon Magnus (the Sorcerer) and warned him to repent but he would rather start his own religion and hence, the Roman Catholic institution.

"You have neither part nor lot in this matter: for your heart is not right in the sight of God. Repent therefore of this your wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you. For I perceive that you are in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity" (Acts 8:21-23).

trapQ:
did you not read that the part where he implied that having a personal relationship with Christ is wrong??
Christianity is a relationship between you and GOD, NOT with GOD and neighbour. this is crystal clear and this is the whole essence of Christianity.
when I said Christianity isn't a religion, I didn't mean it literally, which was I went further to give a definition. a lot of people go to church always but are missing the true purpose of Christianity which is to have a direct one on one communion or relationship with God.
saying Christianity is a relationship with GOD and neighbour is blasphemous because by doing so you're putting your neighbour on the same level with GOD, and its a sin to make anything as important as GOD in our lives. I suppose you know the greatest commandment.
I won't reply to other comments

trapQ:
Jesus founded and initiated a relationship....

re·li·gion
\ri-ˈli-jən\
noun
: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods
: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group

trapQ:
everyday these popes come out with new nonsense. then they said homosexuality isn't a sin..

OLAADEGBU:
The earlier they disregarded the RCC the better it will be for their spiritual well being.

OLAADEGBU:
In what sense is Jesus a Roman Catholic? If anything at all it is you Roman Catholics that need to become Christians and not the other way round.

OLAADEGBU:
Simon Magnus founded the RCC not Jesus.

OLAADEGBU:
Another difference is that you have stopped short of saying that Jesus is a Roman Catholic but you have claimed that He came to found the Roman Catholic of which His disciples are members, no?

OLAADEGBU:
Which church is disregarded, the RCC?

OLAADEGBU:
Traditional religion will not save you. Come to Jesus and have a personal relationship with Him disregarding the RCC which does not save.

OLAADEGBU:
Now tell me, can one have a direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ? Watch the videoclip which gives a better understanding on what your 'holy father' said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lrT57Sncxw

OLAADEGBU:
Jesus did not found a religion. That's where you are missing the point. Jesus did not come to found a religion, we could do that well without Him. He came to link us up with our heavenly Father, not your 'holy father', the pope.

OLAADEGBU:
Tell me how you are different from Muslims who claim that Jesus was a Muslim?

OLAADEGBU:
I hope you have seen how he has now twisted what his pope said into a person 'disregarding the church'.

Here is what he said:

"There is no "do-it-yourself" in the church, no "freelancers." How many times did we hear Pope Benedict Describe the church as a "we" church? Sometime you may hear someone say, "I believe in God, In Jesus, but the church… I don’t care." How many times have we heard this? This is wrong. There are those who believe you can have a personal, direct and immediate relationship with Jesus Christ outside the communion and mediation of the church. These temptations are dangerous and harmful. They are, in the words of the great Pope Paul VI, "absurd dichotomies." It's true that journeying together is challenging, and sometimes it can be tiring: it may be that some brother or sister (in the church) makes us face a problem, or scandalizes us. But the Lord entrusted his message of salvation to humans, all of us, as witnesses; and in our brothers and sisters, with their gifts and limits, who come to us and make themselves known. This means belonging to the church…"

OLAADEGBU:
Which one came first? How could the Apostles be Roman Catholic?

OLAADEGBU:
This is religion which does not save, only Jesus can save.

OLAADEGBU:
My brother, I would say joining the RCC is dangerous and harmful to the human soul now and in eternity.

OLAADEGBU:
I trust you to fully support your pope. Show me one Christian in the Bible who joined the Church before having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ? Did Paul join the Church before he had a personal relationship with Christ?

trapQ:
you and the pope are wrong. Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with GOD. Now, I'm not saying anyone should forsake the gathering of the brethren but discouraging people from having a personal relationship with Christ is very bad because that is the very essence of Christianity.

italo:
I support the Pope's biblical position 100%.
Show me one Christian in the Bible who had a personal relationship with Jesus and disregarded the Church?
Even St. Paul who met Jesus in a divine revelation...went to the Church.
But I know that you never answer questions like this.

misreal:
disregarded the church?lol....I didnt call you to argue sha,just to explain
n...you need the church to mediate between you and Jesus??

misreal:
Italo Italo. Abeg come and explain this to me.

keenn:
A man was struck dead because he prevented the ark of God from falling

We know what happened to those that conspired against moses

Likewise are we familiar with the fate of ananias and sapphira

Let's not forget in a rush to what happened to lots wife

...And I could go on, these are biblical account of those that insulted/dare/doubt the power of God.

keenn:
I am yet to see any befall on an atheist/agnostic or worse a tyrant/corrupt politician.

Who is logical here?

Aizenosa:
Isn't it Paul that also said Love is greater than faith, abi didn't you read in your bible where he wrote "even if I have all the faith in the whole world that could move mountains and I have not loved den that faith is dead"

Now don't get it wrong u quoted the Catholic Catechism when this thread was opened now let me help you understand what it meant.

Ist you are correct saying faith saves, I am not arguing that one bit, but unto the second part we as Catholics we strongly believe that d response to God's unlimited love by we having faith in Him is by good works, which is clearly shown when the rich man met Jesus and asked Him Master what must I do to be saved, and u remember the story, Jesus 1st reply was do u have faith in God and the man replied yes, next Jesus replied him go sell all and give it to the poor and come follow me, the bible says that the man went away sad good works couldn't be done.

So hope you understand.
Peace be with you

menesheh:
Am not Insulting anything, am stating the obvious fact. Besides, that am Insulting god and nothing happens makes such concept demonstrably questionable.

hahn:
And the irony is that the muslims and christians don't know it themselves.

misreal:
this is the harsh truth. if the whole world disobeys God, then the whole world will perish in hell. he is a holy and righteous God.