₦airaland Forum

Why reacting to biafran-generated news?

Beedude:
Leaving Naija for Mali, Libya, etc?
Some people wont learn.

Some are on their way to Ukraine now!

ProfAmaben:
The Benin people are easily brainwashed. The Obas were known to sacrifice human beings during the peak of their powers. The last Oba in1897 was said to sacrifice over 5,000 people when the British were invading (after 1897, the Obas are just advisers and wield no power, an LGA chairman is higher). The Obas are worshipped as gods but trust me, they don't have any power more than you and I.

Britain burnt down the whole Benin in less than 4hrs, looted their palace and shrines including their highest god whom they sacrificed millions of humans to, if these Obas were spiritual and powerful, would such have happened?

Today, they are doing everything possible to restore the Benin monarchy back to it's useless glory (human sacrifices), they are giving a mere man that sleeps with numerous women and uses the toilet power over life and death. Such rubbish can never happen in any sane society.

Oba my foot, he's just a mere guy that's hustling just like everyone.

The Obas of Benin were said to have sold over 200,000 people as slaves to Portugal, they exemplified slavery to the core, they weakened all their surrounding neighbors except the Igbos obviously, I wonder what's so special about an irrelevant stool in 2022 that would warrant them being unable to face accusations and be punished for crimes against humanity.

In Benin tradition, the Oba never bows before any human because he's a living god, but he bowed before a woman here and heaven nor fall , shows we're all bloody humans afterall

This is the animal who calls himself the biafran jew. Senseless anarchist.

Obaseki himself na yahoo.
From F9 English to BA Classics!

Who was considering Modu Sheriff?
He should be leading the fight against Boko Haram!

The bus operators pay dues/ taxes to their union.
The union in turn must have attorneys on retainers to represent union members on matters such as this.
Union members are then supposed to call the lawyer ) union representative immediately and NOT to offer any resistance or forcefully engage government officials.
The vehicle will be retrieved following approved OFFICIAL process.
The vehicle is returned to the owner hopefully without any MALICIOUS damage.
All EXPENSES PAID courtesy of UNION DUES
This applies to okada, Keke napep , other transport operators .
This is how it should be. A better society is POSSIBLE!.

See how ACF is hiding behind Middle belt , using them to do the heavy lifting.
NOW Bitrus and Emmanuel are speaking for the north. Hope the same Bitrus and Emmanuel will be presented as Presidential candidates from the north also when it matters.
Meanwhile, the Abdusalam- Yadudu constitution is a LIE.

ThinkSmarter:
It is not about Nigeria, it is about your tribal name so difficult to pronounce.
I am Igbo but i find names of Edo/benin, urhobo/isoko, Tiv and some Ijaw name difficult to pronounce.

Know when to keep quiet, my friend.

Save Nigeria from what?
People protecting their stash pretending to be altruistic.

Curb your excesses!
Sounds familiar?

swedbase:
But he has been kicked out like a roten smelly egg. He would be replace with an Igbo lover or an Igbo priest. Stupid edo idiot priest. His sister is a prostitude in italy

Straight out of baby factory?
Just be aware of the gutter around you.

Meninmen:
If you were not mentally deranged, you would have recognized that there is no where the post supports your baseless accusations about Edo people hating igbos. How did Edo people even come into this matter?.
The priest said that was how an Igbo man became a priest in a parish in Benin. Does that not signify you that Edo people don't care about tribe for allowing an igbo man to be their priest?. Edo people hate igbos but they allowed an Igbo man to become their priest. Does that make any sense to you?

It is this character that has made your tribe the most endangered tribe in Nigeria. Hausas/fulanis hate igbos. Yoruba hate igbos. Ikwere people hate igbos. Urhobo people hate igbos. Now Edo people hate igbos. Always claiming victim.

Igbos have a MAJOR problem and it's living their lives VICARIOUSLY through others.This anomie has been ruinous to many.
From Douala, Nairobi to Pretoria. Cotonou, Accra, Monrovia to Abidjan. Talk less of China and South Asia. It's always the same problem, " they don't like us".
Why?
Igbos refuse to check their excesses.
Without an attitude and cultural change,sad to say, igbos will continue to lament their predicament.
What is so difficult about putting the SENSIBILITIES of your HOSTS into consideration before doing anything?

Amaechi with his Victor Giadom lackey is nothing but an eye-service man.
Like Amosun,Fayemi,Kalu, Okorocha,all GARBAGE.

You overextended yourself,my friend.
Sitting for NINE subjects?
The only good news is your grades in secondary school has nothing to do with your success later in life.
It's counter- intuitive but true.

You have no status and stop calling yourself aspirants!
Wetin?
Wasted votes again?

If the presidency is zoned to Ajegunle, I will contest.
All my supporters know me as an obedient second class citizen.

Go after the bosses and the owners.
These are couriers and small operators.

Bala barely won the governorship in Bauchi
I remember him pleading with Oshiomole and the APC house majority in Bauchi for settlement and Fulani crazies based in Bauchi have been continuously causing problems in Benue under his watch
So Bala should be the LAST person to be talking about presidency.

Government apartments: 10 to 20%.
Private apartments: max 30%.
Labour unions, cooperatives, local
and state governments should invest in housing.

Peter Obi behaves like a second class citizen, waiting for Atiku before making up his mind.
He should have declared his position before Atiku did.

Advice NOT prophecy.
Be careful, don't do this, don't do that...
Haba!

Between Ake and Owu.
Start tracing the roots of the problem from there.

Tunisian coach for Tunisian team.

What I never understand about Nigerians is why we always want a European coach to come and TRAIN us so we can defeat Senegal,Gabon, Zambia etc
What deep seated inferiority is responsible for this?

confessionsad:
Clemens Westerhof actually saw this coming and told the Super Eagles to mind their business. See the results now. Absolutely shambles.




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/01/westerhof-sends-words-to-eguavoen/amp/

Is Eguavoen himself not a government official?
Easier said than done!

Whatever happened to Baba Suwe's court money?

Buhari, Bagudu, Badaru,Buni, Malami etc will eventually decamp to any party that produces a president from the north.

Better still,ask for state police.

Idahosa has ZERO credibility and character

Fake fayemi.
Why is he not visiting his co-travellers, Buni, Bagudu and Badaru?

Just for now.
As soon as the fuel tanks run empty, taliban will realize how much it costs to run those machines.

Uchasa:
Your theory makes no sense. Name is of no way of measuring someone's ethnicity, rather their culture and history.
We Ikwerres have a lot of culture similarities with people from Southern Igbo land(Abia and Imo states), but why we don't regard ourselves as Igbo is due to our history. The same can't be said of Aniomas, they are both Igbos by culture and history. I find it hard to differentiate an Anioma man from an Anambra man, that's to show you the similarities.
Moreover, that name "Ojo" is a name native to people of Eastern Abia State, the pronounciation is different from the Yoruba "Ojo."
Amaechi's Rotimi is an adopted name. "Amaechi" is his real name because it's an Ikwerre name.
We should all know o
ur history in this country.

Anambra is Edo +Igala +Igbo.
Don't claim EVERYTHING.

TAO12:
(1) ON ITSEKIRI:

To know who the Itsekiris are, ask them. What/who do the Itsekiris themselves say they are?

(A) The eyewitness accounts collected from them in the 1800s have them confirming to the Europeans that they are part and parcel of the larger Yoruba group:

(I) “Let me now refer briefly to the tribes that people this part of the world. First we come to the Jakris, who are connected in race and language with the Yoruba people, extending from the Mahin country on the west to the Forcados on the East, and inland about as far as Sapele.”

~ H. L. Gallwey, “Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa,” The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), p.127.

(II) “In this respect, however, the officials agree with the tradition of the people at Warri, the Jekries, who claim to come from the west.”

~ H. Ling Roth, “Great Benin: Its Customs, Arts and Horrors,” (1903), pp.8-9.

(B) This historical reality of the Itsekiris have remained the same since that period (i.e. the 1800s & prior) all the way to the present century, day & time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKLTie7LhKQ

(I) For example, at timestamp 7:01 to 7:13 of this video, Chief Robinson Ariyo (the Egogo of Warri kingdom) says and I quote:

“… Yoruba, a place where we are from … our roots.”


(II) At timestamp 8:22 to 8:27 of this video, Chief Isaac Jemide (the Oshodin of Warri kingdom) says:

“… we are a Yoruba people as such.”


(2) ON ODUDUWA:

First of all, there is no such historical personage called Izoduwa (Imadoduwa) etc. in Benin traditions.

The IzOdUwA narrative is a fabrication that was made up by some Binis in the 1970s. And it was first heard of by the typical Edo person during Omonoba Erediauwa’s coronation ceremony of 1978-9.

Academic/professional historians (NOT the Benin neighborhood story-tellers) all laugh at this fabrication for being a poor job. This scandal is known to experts. Benin elders also know it. See attached screenshot for one example.

The classical story of the Bini Ekeladerhan which was first collected in the year 1889 is clear that he lived the remaining part of his life in his newly founded kingdom, Ughoton.

A Bini chronicler and chief (J. Uwadiae Egharevba) who flourished decades later also collected practically the same story of Ekaladerhan (from an entirely different generation of Bini informants), and his story also ended at his kingdom, Ughoton.

During all these period, Benin history recognizes King Oduduwa as being distict from Ekeladerhan. In fact, it is clear from the early Benin works that Oduduwa was already a King at Ife long before Ekaladerhan’s fore-fathers would be born.

In other words, it is very clear from the early records of Benin history that Oduduwa ruled in Ife when the first Ogiso, viz. Ogiso Igodo was sent to Igodomigodo to establish a supreme-supra-chiefdom there.

Whereas, Ekalderhan is the son of the last Ogiso, viz. Ogiso Owodo according to Benin records (even the recent records haven’t yet modified this part).

This is what the earliest records of Benin history say — that, Oduduwa is a different and distinct person from Ekeladerhan. They flourished in different eras.

Fast forward to the 1970s, lies began to surface in the history of Benin. The motive behind these lies have been variously linked, by scholars, to — for example — the need for the modern Binis “to ground the idea of an exceptional antiquity for their people and claims for its exclusive part in the sociopolitical life of independent Nigeria” ~ Bondarenko (2003:68).

In summary, early Benin history recognize Oduduwa as a different & distinct person from Ekaladerhan. He is recognized as having flourished at the outset of the Ogiso monarchy. It wasn’t until the 1970s before the Binis attempted to alter their own early documented history so as to equate two different persons as one and the same person for the purpose of veiling what they perceive to be an embarrassing aspect of their history in a newly formed country, Nigeria.

So, who is King Oduduwa? Oodua ruled as king only in Yorubaland. So, again (just like the Itsekiris’s case) ask at Ife (where he ruled) to know who he is.

According to received Ife traditions (and obviously the earliest Yoruba traditions), Oduduwa is known (without any confusion) as Oshin Ora in his oriki.

In the earliest Yoruba traditions, he is identified as a Yoruba leader who hailed from the hilly settlement of Oke-Ora; that is, one of the seven hilly settlements surrounding the Ife-bowl.

Peace!
Cc: KingOdart, Nisiw365, theInterpreter, ibuildstuff, Born2Breed, donforeign, LamidiCownu

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PS: @Enceladus, please be guided that the circular burial pits discovered are eleven (11) in total.

Screenshot Reference:
J. Eboreime, “Oral Traditions and the Prehistory of the Edo-Speaking People of Benin” in Blench and Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I, Taylor & Francis e-Library, 2004, p. 314.

All your references are books and papers written about " Benin country, Benin customs, Benin this and that etc".
What does that tell you?
Where are the books on Yoruba people and their land? That's where you should be quoting from, my friend.
Awolowo's contribution to trying to disrupt traditional institution s is well known. That's a matter for another day.
If anyone says they are not from Benin, fine. Just move on.
There's a connection between Ife and Benin but " Yorubas" want a revised and incorrect mythological version. Europeans didn't come to southern Nigeria in search of Yorubas or their great culture. That's why there are few books written. It was Benin they were interested in.
As for people being buried in Ife, that was Olubuse's version straight out of Awolowo's Action Group' political playbook. Complete garbage.