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Vutseck:
But arresting Arewa youths pose a security risk



talk of double standard
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They didn't threaten nor promoted hate speech or incited anyone to violence; unlike the Pigdiot.

Angelanest:
Two men who allegedly stole a cow were apprehended in Gbajimba Town, Guma LGA, Benue State. The thieves have reportedly been in the business for a long time. According to reports, luck ran out of them this time as they were nabbed while stealing the animal. Residents who paraded them unclad in a bid to disgrace them - revealed that his is the eighth cow which has gone missing in the town..

Source; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2017/09/men-stripped-unclad-disgraced-caught-stealing-cow-photos.html

Why didn't they attach their tribe to the crime as they do to the Fulanis in respect of herdsmen attack?

Such cases of cattle rustling have been going on unreported for a long time and have largely been responsible for reprisal attacks associated with Fulani herdsmen.

Talk is cheap; let the Pigdiot continue with the insults, threats or hate speech; and see himself caged in the zoo sooner than he realises.

Desyner:
What did we give him that has made him ignore his Fulani Brothers?
You must think your daft comments sway people here for you to bold it.
2019 is loading.

He specifically mentioned them in his speech unless of course you are too daft to notice.

If he should even say pim again and in anyway insult, threaten or make hate speeches again; let them show the Pigdiot that Nigeria is really like the zoo he calls it and cage him like the animal he is.

odduduwa:
who wants Nigeria to lose today me surely anything that will bring pains is welcome ....destroying Nigeria is a task that must be accomplished thanks

Unfortunately, the pain is now with the zoo animal that God didn't answer his prayer.

crackerspub:
See my fellow Nigerian



We have nothing in common with this Fuckards!!!



I can't wait for this country to break

Ppl like you spread hatred; I can't say the feeling now isn't mutual.
Meanwhile, there is nothing stopping you from walking out of Nigrtia; the nearest lagoon is probably the shortest route.

Thank God this didn't happen in the north; otherwise some e-rats and pigdiots would have had a field day insulting the entire region and its ppl.

PDJT:
-How many is The Zoo going to arrest? Cursed cuntry!

As many animals it can cage.

Lobbish, lets see how the inconsequential WC would implement unrealistic demands; their lawyers have just been given their tickets to eat food.

OjukwuWarBird:
What are you waiting for


Tell your dumb President to hurriedly arrest him


People that don't think before they act

You must be talking about yourself.

Nonsense, arrest him ASAP if he breaks the law and nothing will happen, nobody is live above the law - its as simple as that.

Blue3k:
Lame argument again dude. I said they made terroristic threats that's illegal. Inciting violence is a crime so yes they did do something. Why would you ask a dumb question like that? Reread the declaration.

Kanu didn't restrict anyone's movement show me a case. The police and government said after fact nobody had to comply. Secondly their was no cases reported of anyone forces to. I asked you to show me Kanu making threat you brought nonsense hear say. Who are these IPOB vigilantee? His was more like voluntary called action because there's no consequences to refusing.

Hate speach isn't a mere insult like calling someone stupid or something. Last time I checked there's no hate speach laws on books. Threatening violence is illegal
Being a bigot like kanu or voicing idiotic views isn't illegal. If it was the prosecution would have added it to charges.

You admit out of your own mouth that the quit notice is illegal because any action or speech capable of inciting and breaching public peace is illegal. It didn't take you long to contradict yourself. Now stop trying defend bad behavior.

I have no time to respond to such an illiterate disjointed argument that lacks merit nor am ready to trade insults with someone that is obviously below my level - I leave you in peace.

Homeboiy:
I don't have anything to say since its from the north


ba mu da magana

Perhaps you may have something to say if it had involved Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe who married his 2nd wife Uche barely over 15 yrs when he was well into his 70s.

Ai sai kayi magana.

zoba88:
Ayam not understanding.A Facebook user who shared the photos said it happened in Jigawa while others said it happened in Iree(I don't really know where Iree is located in Nigeria).Is real or staged?Ram kwa?



Source: http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/08/real-or-stagedgoat-thief-caught-in.html?m=1

OP pls change your title; from the terrain and clothing one can easily tell that this is definitely NOT Jigawa, in fact not even anywhere in the core north.

Blue3k:
There's no hypocrisy isn't Kanu being tried as we speak. This dumb argument if you think his actions are illegal why are you copying? Insults and rudeness aren't crimes. Sit at home order wasn't by force hence why government offices and people moved around. There was no clause that said those that don't heed would be forced on house arrest.

This was daft apples to oranges comparison. It only proves lack consistent principles or logic. If your arguing the federal government is laxidasical in enforcing rule of law that's a different conversation. Again it holds no weight to why they should send tribal quit notice.

As usual, I wouldn't expect a rational argument or response from a mindset like yours - always twisting and turning issues.
OK, by the same token, did the Arewa youths enforced their quit notice?
FYI, any action or speech capable of inciting and breaching public peace is illegal and against the law - insults included; why do you think the govt is now clamping down on hate speeches?
Yes, Kanu had no authority to restrict freedom of movement of ppl in the region, including non-Igbos, many of whom were forced to comply out of fear from being later targetted by IPOB vilgilantes

Acjohn:
Elrufai wanted to arrest the Arewa youths but that died down, why?
was it because the Arewa youths are not in the society? why is it that the presidency never mentioned it?
have you ever seen the Igbo man dragging land with the Hausa in the North? why should the Fulani drag their lands with them in the east?
You don't need any prophet to tell you that some fingers are more equal than the others in Nigeria.
The military are somewhat incapacitated to locate and arrest the Fulani herds men in the east and middle belt but they can easily locate the cattle rustlers in the north and get back Fulani cattle for them.
If you are a Fulani or Hausa ask your ppl why the cases in Kogi are always settled without military interventions? the answer is simple, you don't mess with them and go free. if the Igbo's and Yoruba's will adopt that in Nigeria I tell you Nigeria will be the most peaceful place on earth but most of their leaders will always run or wait for the center who are always bias towards the Hausa.
The heat is building and I tell you when its at the prime we will know who are the boys and the men?

Refer to my immediate last post where I have already addressed all your questions.

Acjohn:
Clap for your self.
Know ye that am not in support of any region or group that perpetrate any form of evil. But ask yourself this questions:
The Govrment finds it easy to locate and arrest most of the cattle rustlers in the North but can't get the Fulani that kill and rape in Benue, Taraba and other south eastern parts of this countries, who is deceiving who? Would you call that communal clash? If you call it communal clash, How comes would the Fulani man say he is from the east and kill people with their farms.
It is Criminal for the Arewa youths to make such violent declaration in Kaduna that was why the Kaduna state Governor said he would arrest them, why didn't he? Who told him or what inform him to change his mind? Would you say that those ppl can't be fished out in the society?
Why didn't the peridency say anything?
There are several other cases where Christian girls are kidnapped and taking to the north where police men may not even have access and everyone know where they are located. If the reverse is the case and the South start taking young girls from your village to the south imaging what would happen.
This is simply a case where one finger is equal than the other. There is no how you will paint it that any one will accept that the south is not treated unjustly in this country.
Do you know that a survey was carried out and it was discovered that Nigeria is one of the most dangerous places to be a Christian? Can that be said of Muslim?
There are many things but hope you understand that am not in support of any unjust or evil elements in the society

I am not surprised that you will continue to feel unjust against the south because your mindset seems already programmed to twist the reality on ground along the lines the propaganda machinery of the Christian dominated southern media and beer parlour gist being fed to you - in sharp contrast to the education and independent thinking mind that you are supposed to have.

On the issue of Fulani attacks:
Let me say that this happens throughout the country; in the north it is usually treated for what it is i.e. as a criminal offence and resolved accordingly without unnecessarily turned into an ethnic or religious conflict and sensationalised by a biased pressed, who prefer to give only one side of the story without recourse to the other side.

On Cattle Rustling:
This is also not restricted to any region or tribe; there cattle rustlers among the Fulanis themselves and often within the local host communities - recently some Igbos rustlers were caught in the SW and made the headlines. Likewise, there are also evidence of local criminals disguising as Fulanis to commit crimes so as to cover their tracks - either for themselves or as agents of politicians foe the sake of propaganda.
The relative success of the law enforcement agents in arrest of rustlers over the herdsmen is simply due to the latter having more bush craft over the other: the herdsmen go into battle without their cattle and use stealth along with their intimate knowledge to the terrain to get away; while rustlers are saddled with they burden of the cattle they stole which slows them down leaving behind traceable footprints leading to them as well as being vulnerable to exposure and arrest while trying to sell off the cattle in markets because the Fulani cleverly mark their cattle making them easily identifiable.

The propaganda machinery (the southern press) would not want you to know that the Fulani are often also victims of attacks, extortion and deception by their host communities; often being duped large sums of money for fake grazing land or grazing rights.
Its funny you included Taraba, because Taraba witnessed the most recent wanton unprovoked attack on Fulani settlements, almost to genocidal proportion - where women, children, the old and the sick, including their cattle were massacred or injured - yet the press did not made much of it, probably because such story would not them more newspaper.

Not at all, the Arewa Youth declaration did not propose or support any violence; you may care to show me where in their speech contained violence; the governor could not effect their arrest because they simply did not break the law - though somebody had taken the matter to court, so lets just wait and see how he can get a conviction.

Note, the presidency did not take any action because it was being headed by an experienced lawyer at the time, the VP and a southerner, who knew better than base his judgement on sentiments; besides, it would have been ludicrous to have clamped down on the Arewa youths while Kanu was free and doing far worse.

I don't see how the alleged kidnapping of young Christian girls is related to this thread; however, even so, after all the press sensationalism of such cases you will often later find out that behind the story is one lie or the other which will never stand the test of the law.

Lastly when it comes to the issue of safety for Muslims against Christians, I can confidently say that the entire world is far more dangerous for Muslims - no thanks to Christians - Libya, Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria etc comes to mind.

Blue3k:
If no threat was issues the won't be found guilty. I don't buy their story about beinig misquoted. They issued terroristic threat. They habe no authority to tell anyone where to go. This is action is illegal.[b][/b]

You point about Kanu doesn't negate anything. Kanu breaking bail conditions will be handled by court. He was arrested and will be again.

LOL, see typical hypocrisy; so where did Kanu get full authority to declare the sit at home order and how was his action legal?

Can't you see that the Arewa Youth's declaration was a reaction to Kanu's apparent free licence to threaten and insult northerners and Nigerians at will while the FG remained aloof and took no action till date - if the FG and Igbo leaders had intervened to stop the threats and insults; I am sure Arewa youths wouldn't have been provoked into issuing their ultimatum.

igbodefender:
The youths realized too late the international implications of there statement and began to retreat. But the world, and the Igbo protest movement WORLDWIDE have already recorded the initial inciteful statement and are waiting to see if ICC boys will need to open a new file after October 1.

Arewa youths have long presented to the UN (along with their support for Igbo secession) a huge catalogue of Kanu/IPOB's numerous video and audio evidence of criminal incitement and threats he foolishly and arrogantly continues to make to impress gullible followers - without fully realising how deep he is digging his own grave.
On the other hand I want you to prove/show any evidence in which the Arewa youths threatened Igbos as alleged - if you can find any, I'll 100 times worse by Kanu.

Acjohn:
Although it is wrong to sell Biafra flag in this country but the double standard of Nigerian Government towards those in the south and the North brings a lot to mind.
by allowing the Northern youth to roam the street after the ultimatum and the Police inability to arrest those that released the hate song make couple with the Fulani herdsmen that kills depending on their mood of the day makes one wonder if anybody that has a Hausa name can do what they like and go free.
One Nigeria will be treated as a statement of hypocrisy unless the Government start treating criminals as criminals in every area of this country

Before you point fingers at anyone, check the hypocrisy that filled your comment.
First of all, the Arewa Youth's ultimatum and the herdsmen attack are not related, so stop joining them together; the latter is simply a criminal act similar to many other inter and intra tribal communal clashes that unfortunately happen throughout the country.
Just because many of the perpetrators cannot be traced and brought to book (like in other communal clashes) should not amount to bias by the govt/police.
There are also many criminal killings e.g. by cults, armed robbery, kidnapping etc happening in the south, in which the culprits are never brought book; should we therefore conclude that the police are favouring criminals in the south; what about other high profile crimes involving southerners that seem to have gone under the radar e.g. two serious cases of illegal arms importation through the ports (involving one Oscar Okoro)?

Secondly, the Arewa Youth's declaration didn't threaten anyone; they made this abundantly clear in their several follow up clarifications/dialogues - well before completely withdrawing it; which cannot be said for Kanu who up to a few days ago was openly threatening the law enforcement agents with death should they attempt to re-arrest him for blatantly flouting his bail conditions.

I am sure the red cap brigade full of hatred would have preferred if the report was that the young man was attacked by the herdsmen.

MasViews:
If it happen to be the other way round some people will start insulting all Northerners

I also notice the same hypocrisy, how they would automatically insult the north whenever a southern corper dies or is involved in an accident in the region, irrespective of the cause; but will keep mute when similar happens in the south - talk of hatred and double standards.

Blue3k:
Nigeria needs to arrest the quit notice clowns. Their bias only makes government look crazy. El Rufi called for their arrest first now they don't want to act. After you arrest them give bail and hopefully they act reasonable.

Lets see how they will be arrested when all they did was to ask Igbos to leave the region, without threatening or engaging any of them in hate speech; while Kanu continues to remain free to insult, incite and threaten northerners and Nigerians with hate and war; his latest was to openly threaten the law enforcement agents with death should they attempt to re-arrested him for flouting his bail conditions?

I would like to see how this open and shameless hypocrisy would play out - especially as the Arewa youths had time and again made follow up clarifications on the non - violent message in their quit notice; even before the complete withdrawal of the said notice. .

jetbomber17:
Damage control strategy...
after embarrassing your self with the first protest.

Exactly.

Kidnapping and Cannibalism - una well done.

WORDWORLD:
My dear, and how many times did the Prophet who Muslims are meant to emulate beat his own wives. CAN YOU COME UP WITH ANY EVIDENCE AS TO SUCH?!

Should we open a thread me and you alone so we discuss this INDEPTHLY?!

Evaberry how are you even sure he is a Muslim to start with? 'Samaila Zakari'

Its a pity, some of them can't wait to expose their shameful bigotry and ignorance at the same time.

What a clown, who is he deceiving; has he forgotten the various YouTube video evidence awash the internet of him threatening murder and Nigerians with war; or does he expect us to believe that the money he was seen soliciting for from blodas in Amelica was only meant to buy sweets and not weapons?

The Pigdiot is desperately now trying to distance himself from his past and to launder his war monger image to that of a pacifist but is too arrogant to come clean - much like he refused to retract his unfortunate 99.9% prostitute statement against Igbo females.

The man is an obvious opportunist; usurping the IPOB leadership for himself from a mere radio station DJ to now spoiling to take over the entire regional leadership; though not without a fight from the local establishment.
The battle lines seem to have been drawn and he had foolishly cornered himself to fight two fronts at the same time: the FG and her agencies on the one side and the governors and other local politicians on the other (over his nonsensical opposition to the elections).

Eventually, he would have to choose between defeat or taking advantage of his present popularity and switching over to mainstream politics - his current change of stance to non-violence are already indicative signs that the opportunistic chameleon would likely opt for the latter.

Cyynthia:
Nice one.
The earlier they start leaving that desert for @bokis the better.

Their economy will definitely collapse after 1st Oct because of absence of commercial activities in that region.They have made a terrible mistake they will never forget in their life.
Everybody knows that the quit notice was issued with the intention of silencing the Ipob agitation, but since they have seen that the quit notice order didn't yield any positive fruit after seeing that Ipobs are serious with their agitation, they had no other alternative than to cowardly back out.
So, quit notice withdrawal is useless because the mistake has been made. In your next world, always think before you act. Even if after break up, it's expected that Igbos should remain wherever they are if they like, after all, there are many foreigners doing their businesses here in Nigeria.
But average @boki no dey disappoint in exhibition of stVpidity.
I pity Northerners.

I sometimes wonder whether the flattening of their heads make some ppl think and reason in a skewed way.
By mere going through the article, one would easily see that majority of those interviewed chose to stay put or return after the tension die out rather than relocating permanently as the misleading headlines would want the reader to believe.

On the other hand it is ludicrous to believe that the exit of Igbos out of the north would collapse the economy of the region; rather it would present new opportunities for jobs and trade to the teaming unemployed youths, especially in areas traditionally dominated by the Igbos.

The negative aspect of Igbo presence pertaining to fake drugs, fake spare parts and other goods would automatically disappear and benefit the ppl.

Besides, the majority of Igbos in the north are petty traders, bringing little value to the region; unlike industrialists and others who bring intrinsic development and add value to the region; what they bring is only superficial, rather they parasitically live off the profits they make, often at the expense of the local population.

kenny987:
Very sick n daft people. This here is their major punchline, every other thing is just some smokescreen:



Then they add this for good measure:


As lords of the manor cum owners of Nigeria, everyone must fold under them and swear fealty, they can't believe the 'audacity' of Nnamdi Kanu or well placed public officials lending him any support. Useless set of goats!

Quick to insult without properly weighing up the arguments; though I suppose the urge to insult at the slightest opportunity comes to you ppl naturally.

The Arewa youths were basically in support of Igbo secession but demanding for a quick decisive conclusion to the agitation: either Igbos be given their Biafra through referendum or in the alternative they should completely and permanently give the agitation - so as to avert the possibility of war.

They were calling the the arrest of Kanu, who is still inciting hatred and threatening Nigerians with murder and war, in flagrant violation of his bail conditions; they additionally wanted the senators stood bail for him to rescind their support or face suspended because their actions were clearly in conflict with their oath of office as senators - which among others is to defend the integrity of Nigeria and not support to a self declared enemy of the state.
Now tell me (without insults) how the above demands prove to be daft, sick or ridiculous?

uzoormah:
Wetin mumu dy talk sef

Your mumu done do - sey you now know olodo rabata.

uzoormah:
Women!! hmm buhari is back.. m nt suprised

Yes, and those abusing or wishing him dead are now running mad - careful or you might be next.