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[color=royalblue]Suzukeee[/color]

BlueRayDick:
You see now that it is only just mental laziness that made the school management come up with the nonsense decision of cancelling the entire students' exams.

I know the intention of the lecturers is to ensure all the students who flashed their expensive cars come back to rewrite the course so they can mock them and if possible fail as many of them as possible. But this is Nigeria, we all know that most of the students who owned those cars are not relying on whatever they have written in the exam hall. Most of them will sort their way even if they re-write the exam 100 times.

The school management while chasing shadows should be reasonable enough to know that the real serious students are the ones whom they will end up punishing. The serious students who want to go for NYSC ASAP will end up getting punished unjustly. Most of the people who own those cars don't even give a 4ck about school.

[color=royalblue] You're funny, bros.

That's just a video of students driving out. Where did the school forbid them from driving cars?

They specifically listed what they warned them about, of which the video proves none of it, and you don already equate am to mental laziness.

What exactly in this video relates to the memo you posted?[/color]

[color=royalblue]I know say that Wendell Simlin wey Elrufai call Reno go touch a nerve[/color]

BlueRayDick:
Whatever u choose to call it, the school management erred, and it is the responsibility of the student union government to challenge them and take them up for their abuse of power

[color=royalblue]I hope they do sha.[/color]

BlueRayDick:
Bet what? That all students of the department engaged in the road show? I can bet u that all students didn't engage in the road show.

There's a reason why there's student affairs department in a university system. Let the school management collaborate with the student affairs dean and fish out the erring students for appropriate punishment. If the school can't do that, then they are not fit to be an institution of higher education in this age and time .

[color=royalblue]I totally agree with this..

The only problem now is that those that are fit to be an institution of higher education, dem no born anybody to go against a warning or law.

The fact that the school would warn, and a number will flout it, shows they should even close the school down.[/color]

AbokiWam:
So is this right to you?

If given the power you would continue in this line?

[color=royalblue]I am simply showing you that everyone has a right to put laws that protect their systems.

You and I do not have to like it.[/color]

AbokiWam:
So is it all the students in the listed departments that flouted the rule?

The rule said it is better for 20 guilty to go free than 1 innocent person to suffer the wrath of the law

I saw the videos on tiktok.. the cars no pass 30

Those students should sue their goofy ass.

Tertiary institution no be your village secondary school wey you go just cancel exams as you like.

Though this poses a better chance for those students to read more and prepare well

[color=royalblue]Help me with the video, please.[/color]

BlueRayDick:
You are just trying to turn logic on its head but u are failing woefully at it.

You claimed 3 departments flouted the school laws , nobody has argued to the contrary .Now answer this question: "Is it fair to punish all the final year students of the 3 departments for an offence committed by few of them?".

I'm sure u will never answer the question because u know the answer will flaw ur own logic.

If the Dean, HOD's and lecturers are that are saddled with the responsibility of Moulding leaders of tomorrow who are supposed to create a fair and just society cannot be fair in apportioning punishment to specific erring students; what gives u the impetus to think this country will ever be better?

If u will support such unreasonable stand by the school authority, why not let us just revert to military rule in which anybody can be punished at the discretion of whoever is in power without thinking about fairness and proportionality when meting out punishment?

[color=royalblue] You're sure it is a few?

Or you want to hold on to that as the last straw, after finding out it is not ALL FINAL YEAR STUDENTS?

When we see the video, you want to bet that it is a few?[/color]

GloriousGbola:
You are conflating a ban with punishment for a crime /infarction.

Did the uae arrest all Nigerians or the ones who commited the crimes?

Is customs seizing all cars plying the road?

Did lagos state arrest all okada riders in lekki when that engineer in lekki was killed?

[color=royalblue] Because of few Nigerians involved in fraud and cultism, UAE banned 200 million people from applying again. And you want to explain it?

Because of the recklessness of Okadas, they are banned from plying major roads in Lagos. Even if you wear a helmet, and ride within the limit, you cannot.

A school decided to ask a group to rewrite an exam; They didn't expel them, suspend them, fine them or even do any of such. Yet, the Armageddon is here

All of us will be fine. I'll be here when you will support the total ban of something because of a selected few.

Na here I go dey wait for you[/color]

GloriousGbola:
You are saying the many should be sanctioned for the actions of a few

Someone in this estate bypassed his meter, therefore we will disconnect the whole estate

One bus driver in oshodi ran over a lastma officer, therefore we will punish all the bus drivers in oshodi

One person on this thread posted nudes so we will ban everyone who posts on the thread

You cannot punish an entire group because some members broke the law.

[color=royalblue]Okadas are banned in Lagos because of the actions of a few

Importation of cars through Land borders is banned because of a few

Trump has withdrawn from WHO and stopped funding USAID because of the corrupt vices of a few.

UAE banned Nigeria from getting a visa because of a few.
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iamoyindamola:
But china law is severe because no one deserves to die for stealing

[color=royalblue]No one deserves to rewrite an exam for spraying money too[/color]

afrodoc2:
I know that.

So, all the students in those 3 departments sprayed money and blasted horns.

And no student from any other department outside those 3 blasted horns or sprayed money.

No wahala.

[color=royalblue]I don't know

And I am waiting to see a video sha.[/color]

iamoyindamola:
Mad people dan they enter here too

[color=royalblue]Just ignore

It will pass, I can assure you [/color]

BlueRayDick:
What are u even saying?

You are providing example of covenant kicking specific Muslim students out (not all Muslim students but the particular erring ones) to justify AAU punishing all students who took their final exams that day. Can't u see how flawed ur logic is?

You have stylishly refused to address the injustice of punishing students who wrote the same papers but didn't have car to block gate nor bundles of cash to throw away.

We are speaking for those students here, we are challenging the school to fish out the few erring students and punish them while sparing those that never partook in the show.

[color=royalblue]My point is everywhere has a law

You steal public funds in Nigeria? You go to jail
You steal in China? You are killed.

If you don't want to be killed, go and steal in Nigeria.

AAU has a right to put a law. You and I and the 3 departments cannot dictate to them how to run their school.

They repeatedly passed the memo and yet 3 departments decided to flout it. How come others didn't? You should ask yourself that

We can fight for the others by using videos to fish out the perpetrators; since what the Dean and HODs saw on that day isn't enough.

Or better still, they shouldn't rewrite. They should protest like you said. [/color]

GloriousGbola:
If it was covenant they would capture the culprits on video. They have cctv all over the campus.

If the university does not have cctv, they sha have security men who can capture those partying on camera. You do not have to capture everyone - and but once there are some scapegoats everyone else will align

[color=royalblue]Just help us with the video if you see it.

Shebi Mass Comm department is among? I want to see whether we will count only 10 or 30 people there.[/color]

afrodoc2:
Those tailgate celebrations lead to blocked roads by default.

And if the school is saying that they cancelled the exams because all the students in 3 departments were spraying money i can only

And finally, i am not saying that there should not be repercussion, but it has to be directed appropriately, and it has to be right repercussion.

[color=royalblue]The exams cancelled was limited to only the 3 departments.

It is not a General course [/color]

GloriousGbola:
https://fssgist./2015/10/31/photos-unilag-final-year-students-celebrate-straight-outta-unilag-after-writing-final-exams/
https://www.nairaland.com/6662231/futminna-graduating-student-wears-cheated

the lecturers all know the nfa big boys and yahoo boys in their classes - how will they not know them when the boys share parking space with them.

as a social media matter - people will always record themselves partying and post it to social media

if the authorities are not lazy, then they simply pick a few scapegoats and send a message

in fact it is likely the other way around - they are afraid to single out and punish the actual culprits so they drop a blanket punishment

a misdirected punishment because those who were partying do not give a damn if they spend another year in school

[color=royalblue] Kindly help me post the video, if you can.

I will personally help us count how many people are there.[/color]

BlueRayDick:
It is even because u are suggesting it is okay to cancel the papers of everyone who wrote the particular exam despite knowing fully well that all the students could not have been involved in the offence they are to be punished for.

[color=royalblue]The school has a law for fucck's sake. Why are you not concerned that Graduating students won't keep to it?

Last year or so, Covenant kicked out 2 Muslims for wearing Hijab on JAMB day. It is a law in that school, and yes, they have the right to uphold it.

Why are you emphasizing on injustice, when all the departments in AAU obeyed, except these 3?

Should schools not have laws again? If someone was killed in that celebration or properties were vandalized, we will still come back and call AAU a useless school.

I hope they don't rewrite it sha. Is it not Nigeria again?[/color]

afrodoc2:
Still not appropriate IMO.

1) I don’t believe every student in those 3 departments was involved money spraying and horn hooting.

2) The celebration which took place AFTER the exam did not in anyway interfere with the integrity and credibility of the exam itself, so I don’t see how cancelling the exam is the the right punishment at all.

3) The US you mentioned in your first post has a rich tradition of campus tailgate celebrations for sporting events as well as graduation, and the authorities don’t cancel their exams.

[color=royalblue]Where did you see the school ban celebrations?

The said they didn't want spraying of money, and blocking access roads.

Una dey spray money and block road for US and Australia?[/color]

iamoyindamola:
Exactly I am sure the school didn't just wake up to pass the law
This celebration have ended students lives because that's where cultists strike, what of damaging school properties during celebration

BlueRayDick:
So all the students in the 3 departments engaged in the activity according to ur logic right? So all the students of the 3 departments must be made to rewrite their exams right?

U can't claim to be enforcing a law while trampling on the rights of innocent students.

You really don't know the evil u are supporting at all. It's just like one person beating a policeman in uniform in a 3 storey building and the next day the police shows up to pack all occupants of the building, detain them and charge them for assault on an officer of the law. If the police cannot identify the specific individual who assaulted the officer, then they are wrong to arrest and jail the whole occupants of the building.

[color=royalblue]Evil?

They didn't suspend or expel anybody. Just come and rewrite a paper and it is evil.

If na Covenant, na expulsion straight, and I am 100% sure it would not be evil. We would insist there was a law already.

I support you sha. They should not rewrite it. Let them protest and block all entrance and exit points till the school changes this decision.

I hope I am not supporting evil now.[/color]

iamoyindamola:
It's possible the 3 listed departments are the only one having their final papers that day
The way students roll, they will all rock the same attire it's very hard to identify those who won't join because who doesn't celebrate final days in school

[color=royalblue]I am very surprised he said it is easy to identify anybody [/color]

GloriousGbola:
it is the same thing

the irony is they know at least some of the people partying and can easily identify them if they wanted to

how many students have cars for motorcade?
they will be all over social media as well.
is it not how one chick got into trouble for wearing a shirt with a funny slogan?

if they want to identify the students who did this, they can easily identify some of them. they are the ones in authority

this is an act of mental laziness typical of our so called egg heads

[color=royalblue]In a public university?

Where there are thousands, jubilating on the road and shouting, is what is easy to identify?

I have heard you, my Chief [/color]

GloriousGbola:
i will post a naked video on this thread and everyone here will be banned

that sounds about right

[color=royalblue]Apples and Oranges.
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afrodoc2:
So, all the final year students including the ones that are doing lesson teacher to feed and pay school fees and the ones that are feeding by the grace of their classmates and friends. All of those ones too joined cultists, yahoo boys and campus big boys to be hooting horn and spraying money.

For this same Naija wey people on good salary are just scraping by?

[color=royalblue]It is not All final year students, doc

3 departments, out of a lot in AAU did not obey their institution. And it is the paper they wrote on that particular day that was canceled.

I really don't know what you would advise the school to do, after repeatedly begging them to not block roads or spray money [/color]

iamoyindamola:
Without severe punishment students will continue to violate laws, but why is it hard to just abide by rules and regulations in this country

[color=royalblue]The memo said they have repeatedly sent memos that they should desist from it

Yet, 3 departments refused. But na the school wan kill them.

Make dem burn the school down. That's the only solution [/color]

BlueRayDick:
I did. The memo was referring to all students who wrote exams on that particular date . What is the probability that all the students of that faculty and department were involved in the motorcade and excessive celebration ?

Some of the students couldn’t even afford to eat a meal before the exams .

I’m taking this personal because if this had happened to me in my final paper I will be mad as 4ck 😡. On the day of my final exam I was dead broke and just wanted to write the paper , page the school premises the next day and go look for wetin Dey turn money for streets .

Anybody telling me to rewrite an exam because some yahoo boys brought their car to show off after exams is definitely going after my life at that point .

[color=royalblue]That is not what the memo said

It identified 3 departments as the violators; Mass comm, English, History and International studies., and it listed the exam papers that were cancelled.

3 departments in one faculty alone.

Which one be all students there?

Make dem shut down the school and protest. I really hope they don't rewrite it, so justice and fairness can prevail.[/color]

BlueRayDick:
I go university and I graduate ; I know the number of students always engaging in excessive celebration are few in comparison to the total number of students in the entire university system .

If u follow news of various university convocation , u will see news like :”16,000 graduates from Unilag at the 55th convocation “…. Now the question is do u see 16,000 final year students of Unilag doing a motorcade , hooting of horns and blocking access to university road in Yaba? The answer is a big NO! The people who carry out this excessive celebration may not even be up to 200 of the entire graduating class . Why make all of them rewrite their final exams?

If u want to talk about laws and penalties ; then u should be easy to talk about fairness and also proportionality of penalties in relation with the offences committed .

[color=royalblue]Did you read the memo you posted?[/color]

afrodoc2:
And no UK or US school born of man, woman, or inanimate object will cancel the exams for the whole student body because of the activities of a minority section. They should identify and punish those that flouted the regulations.

The punishment for breaking school rules should be proportionate and directed at the right people. Many people hustled and sweated for that exam. Many of them from poor background and with no access to the cars whose horns were blasted or to the money that was sprayed. You now want to punish them because of the activities of miscreants many of whom do not need the degrees in the first place.

It is like you have been conditioned to accept the tyranny of lecturers and university administration which is standard in Nigeria.

[color=royalblue]Read the memo he posted..

The faculties affected were listed, and they clearly said "Graduating students in the affected faculties violated the laws"

Which other identification you need again?[/color]

BlueRayDick:
So if schools should have laws , the penalty should be to cancel all exams written by all students and ask them to reseat exams Abi ?

What happened to identifying the students involved in the “breaking of the school laws “ and punishing them for their” offences “?

If u want to go about the route of UK or US schools then u should be ready to do what they will do in the same circumstance . Those schools u want to reference will fish out the perpetrators/guilty students who carried out the car display , unnecessary hooting and blocking of access roads; they will punish them accordingly .

The point is: It makes absolutely no sense for u to tell me wey borrow money to buy candle to read for my last exams to go back and reseat am exam I have my 100% beat simply because my fellow students chose to break the law . Nobody punishes the entire populace for the sin of few in advanced society .

I still maintain that the student union has the mandate to fight this injustice on behalf of the innocent students .

[color=royalblue]So you think it is 1 or 10 people that broke that law, before AAU decided to cancel papers?

I won't be surprised if the SU follows your advise sha. Is it not Nigeria again? They should even burn down the school sef.

A simple law will be given, and we would not follow it. When there's a penalty, we immediately turn the tables.

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BlueRayDick:
Matters Arising at Ambrose Ali University Ekpoma:

The school earlier issued directives prohibiting excessive celebration of final exams involving car display, spraying of money, shouting and hooting within ghe campus. Apparently some students violated this directive and the school management in its "almighty wisdom" thinks the best punishment is for them to cancel all papers written on the final day of the exams .

My personal opinion on the matter : The only reason this nonsense injustice will stand is if student unionism has died in public universities in Nigeria . Under any guise , there’s no justification whatsoever for any student to be made to rewrite an exam he or she didn’t fail nor was caught engaging in exam malpractice .

If the student union of this school knows their onions, they should stage a massive protest that will shake the whole state , shut down every academic and non academic activities within the school premises indefinitely and force the school management to come down from the high horse they are seated on.

In fact , they should occupy the school indefinitely such that even if armed policemen and soldiers are deployed to the school premises they will be unable to curtail the students who will insist the school management goes on radio to announce reversal of this callous and useless memo. The school senate/management should not even be allowed to seat and deliberate on the matter within the school premises .

[color=royalblue]But schools should have laws, abi?

No spraying of money, no hooting unnecessarily, no blocking of access roads; All of which students violated.

This is not an issue of Almighty wisdom, but just a simple law that we as Nigerians will never keep.

If it was a University in the US or UK, no Nigerian born of a woman would think of violating it; no matter him level for cultism or Yahoo.[/color]

[color=royalblue]Itsrm
nihilistjnr

We never see una this year[/color]