₦airaland Forum

chrisooblog:
Personally I think at the end of the day criticizing religious leaders for government failings (as much as is your right) is misplaced priority.

Is Adeboye, Kumuyi, Mbaka, or the Sultan of Sokoto the President of Nigeria? Are they in charge of the Army or Police?

You might say lending powerful voices might help the situation but how far can powerful voices really go if those in charge don't do the right thing. Michelle Obama held up BBOG placard that year are they all back?

Adeboye has generally always stayed in his lane when dealing with various Presidents over the years. From Obj, to Yar Adua, Goodluck, and Buhari I can't recall Adeboye explicitly addressing them directly on any failing of their government.

You might not agree with his stance which is fair enough but criticizing him for an action which he has consistently displayed since 1999 is over the top.

I wanted to actually engage you, but your first paragraph already shows you clearly don't understand what our argument has been about.

There's no where I criticized Adeboye for failing to secure us. There is nowhere I blamed him for the insecurity in Nigeria. If you find anywhere I did so, please quote it

If this is what you understood by my posts, believe me, I don't know where to start engaging you from.

All these beggars wey LASG dey arrest, what's the plan?

Waybill them back to their respective states? That one go affect votes oh

MorataFC:
Yes, they likely know where they are. The challenge is that they cannot simply use force, because the lives of those children at risk. The priority is to secure their safe release, last last na ransome dem go pay.

Yeah. I didn't know that.

But Oyo HoA has ruled out ransom payment. I think that's a stupid move, and even publicizing it makes it worse

Unless there's a plan behind that statement/publicity

raumdeuter:
Last week a video by the school principal claimed that some attacks by security agencies around their location has worsened their situation and making the kidnappers more aggressive

Ohh
That's some positive news

BlueRayDick:
I have showed you what he said, I shared the link here, izzou quoted it yesterday....Check ur mentions it is still there.

You are the one who has shown us anything Adeboye said to criticize Tinubu's government.

Why are you scared of dropping link of quoting the post here ?

Adeboye personally wrote to Jonathan, not speaking at Ibafo.

He wrote that he was gathering signatures, including his own to protest the unjust killings of Nigerians

Like....He personally wrote the petition

According to a petition sent to President Goodluck Jonathan by the spiritual leader of RCCG, Adeboye, which was equally attached to the registration form that was used, yesterday .....

I wonder how you can compare this kind of action to the other. I really wish these people will speak up, honestly

They have the followership to demand better

raumdeuter:
Why do you and blueraydick keep insisting that the FG did not send a representative for 2 weeks
Yes the children are still in the bush because the security forces have not been able to find a way to extract the children without putting their lives at risk

I think th govt should negotiate with them, grant their demands to save the children first and can go after them later, Toda the Oyo state speaker spoke against negotiation with the terorists

Is there any proof that they know where they are currently?

BlueRayDick:
Thank you for your service! 🫡👮

I thought u will end this post with link to Adeboye's criticism of this current administration as requested by popular demand 🤷‍♂️

I saw all the defence tweets and posts yesterday defending Adeboye, and I cannot help but laugh.

There's no neutrality in the place of good and evil. Humans are killed per day in Nigeria. A Nigerian is more likely to die today, than in 2022 from terrorism and violence.

If our Religious leaders still need to be asked before they speak, or they would quietly suggest.....Then we have another problem as Christians and religious people in Nigeria

TemporaryHansel:
You love traveling a lot, I believe you make use of bus right? Imagine hearing "Alahu Abkhar" while inside the bus in this tense times.

"Moderate" Musl1ms like Amoto are as dangerous as the extremists. They'll gladly sell out people that consider them friends because of this blasphemy stuff and get the person k1lled.

Whether moderate, extremist, or gentle Musl1m, they're all the same in my eyes...

They are not all the same, and that's why I find it difficult to slander them.

I just try to be careful and respect everyone beliefs in these times. I also don't contribute and comment carelessly in public.

But not all Muslims are radicals.

TemporaryHansel:
Shey na Lord Lugard cause this one too? Even if Nigeria is balkanized into 50 different countries, it'll result in 50 failed mini Nigerias. Cursed region.

I personally believe that scattering us into regions will leave us worse off.

I'm not saying Lord Lugard's solution is perfect, but this disintegration should have happened earlier.

If it happens now, exactly anyhow you said it; 250 failed Nigerias will emerge

TemporaryHansel:
Amoto how's everything?

You're looking for trouble oh

My hand no dey

BlueRayDick:
Those are the issues! The people who think people deserve to be killed for blasphemy and these ones who actually carried out massacre to avenge alleged Blasphemy are no different. They may try to use word salads to muddle things up , but in actual sense they aren't different.

Why do I have a feeling that this comment......?

Never mind

I think I'm hungry

GloriousGbola:
Cc folake4u.

I don hear say na for only in movies edo peeps dey see flyover. (seeing as na broom edo women dey take move anyway)

Thank God you enter Lagos so you will see flyover in your lifetime.

Thank God for Sunday. He has brought development to edo

Izzou can now drive through edo and avoid underbridge task force

Lol

To be honest, the flyover at Ramat park will ease a lot of traffic. Before now, the traffic will stretch from Ikpoba Hill to Asaba road.

But I don't understand assembling children to clap for a flyover

BlueRayDick:
Okpebholo dey give dem premium entertainment content for Edo state

Omoh

Make everybody live with the consequences of their votes.

Make person no carry my pikin in the future go do this kind thing, abeg

BlueRayDick:
Lmao 😂.

I sense Morata is probably a member of RCCG and it doesn't sit well with him that people are calling out Adeboye to at least keep up with his reputation of using strong words to call out the government when insecurity is rife.

He knows that so called advise by Adeboye won't cut it, that's why he was shying away from posting it and just wanted to use "ògbójú" t dabaru everything till u hold am for neck

Adeboye called it an "Advice"

Then the part that pissed me off was "If I was asked to make suggestions, I would quietly say...."

So if they didn't ask you, you won't make suggestions? You won't speak?

I am still waiting for anybody that can share any link of Adeboye criticizing this government on insecurity. I don't even need economy or corruption.

Just insecurity. Show us where he called out this government

[quote author=BlueRayDick post=139614847]Kids dey go do excursion for FLYOVER in Edo state 😂. Wonders no fit end for this country

Kids in Edo State go to visit a FLYOVER 😭

Just to give you a context, I grew up in Benin City and at around the same age with these kids, my excursions were to Nigerian Bottling Company, the Airport, the Zoo

The governor just dey show for the state 😭 pic.twitter.com/nJci5okJci

— Harry Da Diegot (@trigottista) June 4, 2026

Benin Bye-pass na flyover nau.

Something wey dem build in the early 2000s

Why these people wan put politics inside everything?

What happened to this version of bluntness?
What happened to calling it as it is?

And this is not just Adeboye, but every single religious leader that has a level of influence over a people

Why can't we see this again, in a time where the deaths have tripled?

"The General Overseer of the church, Pastor Enoch Adeboye, who yesterday initiated the move, insisted that it was high time religious organisations raised awareness over the depreciating standard of security in the country, adding “we cannot afford to celebrate, clinking glasses and congratulating each other when a horrendous decimation of the most vulnerable is picking up a pace and our stock of human capital heading for the abyss.”

See the Criticism that MorataFC is very shy of posting.

Maybe it's me that don't understand the word "Criticize", or "Ultimatum"

He said, “You can only advise the commander-in-chief. You can’t command him, because if you command the commander-in-chief, then you become the commander of the commander-in-chief. That doesn’t make sense.

“But I’ve tried. And God is my witness. I don’t want to take much of your time.

“What should we do now? I’m talking to you as my children. If I were asked to make suggestions, I would say quietly to our government, move fast. And tell our security chiefs, get rid of these terrorists within 90 days, or resign

My greatest joy in these is that people are now beginning to ask for more from these religious leaders, and I am happy that even amongst his members, eye don dey clear small small

MorataFC:
This is exactly the double standard we are talking about.
There was insecurity during Jonathan's administration, and when Pastor Adeboye petitioned Jonathan over it, that was considered criticism.
There is insecurity during Tinubu administration, and Pastor Adeboye not only raise concerns but reportedly gave the government a 90day ultimatum to address the situation. Yet suddenly, that is no longer considered criticism.
How can the same action be called criticism in one case and not criticism in another?

If publicly calling attention to insecurity and demanding action from a government is criticism under Jonathan, then the same standard should apply under Tinubu. If it is not criticism under Tinubu, then it was not criticism under Jonathan either.

Did you see anywhere I typed "Jonathan" in my quote to you?

You said Adeboye criticized this administration last year.

I have simply asked you to show me where he criticized this administration. A simple link would answer me.

I hope you know that you have quoted me twice, and deflected from answering.

I won't bother to drag this matter. You have already given us the answer to my question.

Ranka Dede, Maigida

MorataFC:
Are you saying you're not aware of the news that has dominated media space this week, even though the statement was actually made last year?

My brother, don't do this, abeg!

Like I said, I am not trying to argue with you. I am very convinced that Adeboye has never criticized this administration. Emphasis on CRITICIZE (We can look up the meaning in the dictionary if you want)

You said he has criticized this administration last year. These were your own words.

Just show me where he CRITICIZED THIS ADMINISTRATION.

Don't bother about what I heard or saw. Just put the link here.

Thank you, my Chief

BlueRayDick:
I'm also interested in this "Last year criticism of Tinubu's administration by Adeboye " that he speaks of.

Toor!

Let's wait together then.

MorataFC:
😂😂😂

The funny thing is that Pastor Adeboye has already criticized this administration and raised concerns about insecurity since last year, but the media kept it away from you because it did not fit the narrative many people wanted to push.
The media gives people what they want to hear, not what they need to know.

The way and manner he criticized Jonathan over insecurity, he has also criticized Tinubu over insecurity and even issued him a 90days ultimatum to find a lasting solution to kidnapping and insurgency. That happened last year ooo, but the media kept it away from you.

Two months ago, he was advising his children on who to marry and who not to marry, and that story dominated the media space for almost a week.
Which of these issues is more important to our national interest?

So media gave you the one you wanted to hear and kept away the one you needed to know far away from you.

I'm trying to learn and free my mind of any propaganda

Kindly show us where he criticized this administration last year.

GloriousGbola:
The terrorists are winning

The paranoia, fear and distrust has begun

Yesterday one of my neighbors called me to ask that I tell him if anything is about to happen because I am 'connected'

Apparently because I am a Muslim I somehow have access to information about terrorists.

Right now everyone is in panic mode seeing terrorists everywhere.

Will it take that much for my eastern neighbors to say I am a terrorist plant?

And the fact of the matter is I look at the abokis the same way.

All these okada riders, suya sellers, etc. Which of them are plants and radicalised

One thing that has aided terrorism and insecurity in Nigeria is the lack of law enforcement and slow judiciary.

Ransoms are now normal
Terrorists are caught and we don't even know if anything happens again
Repentant terrorists are absorbed into the society
The Courts take forever to determine their fate

Look at Owo massacre. After 4 years, a Federal High Court sentences them to death.

There's still the Appeal court (because they must appeal) and then the Supreme Court too. So we are looking at 2 more years to finally see the end of this matter.

raumdeuter:
Now that it has been shown that the 90 days ultimatum was not a result of any dragging and was done since last year, then what next. Does that speaking of last year he did satisfy you?

What is the 90 day ultimatum?
Did you read it?
As the service chiefs didn't resign nko, and the killings went on, what now happened?

How many times have we seen the killings in Benue, Plateau and even in the NE, and yet there was silence from the largest Pentecostal leader in Nigeria?

Omoh! I have left him to his own choice. We all know what we are doing.

Like I said, I am happy that Nigerians are now seeing it the way I see it. Very soon, this dragging will spread to all of them.

You cannot be hiding behind prayer, and find it very difficult to call out evil and incompetence when you see it.

I personally believe that our forests can be policed.

Is it really that hard to organize vigilantes?

The first executive order should be that nobody should be found in the forest again. If dem catch you, automatic jail straight

CrystalTiger:
See caption na 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Larride

Come outside

Someone said.....

raumdeuter:
Imagine 4 useless lives even if they get killed versus the 20 innocent families wasted

Like.....

Omoh, I don't even know what to say.

Amoto94:
Na Ebira name.
I mentioned it here while reccy was been defensive

I really hope they go through with the sentence

But justice after 4 years...How does that pacify more than 20 families that lost their loved ones?

Ibime:
So the Owo massacre culprits are actually Yorubas that signed up to Al Shabbab (Somalian terrorist group). Even within moderate societies like the Yorubas, anything can happen under foreign influence

Abdulmalik Omeiza is definitely not Yoruba.

Omeiza is a Kogi name

obainojazz:
My friend here that nothing concern with politics posted pray for Nigeria, one Tinubu hardcore fan like Dayo started saying also pray for the people inciting insecurity to discredit this administration.
Worse thing to do is to argue with political fanatics… You can never understand why they defend what’s wrong.

This is the new format being sold.

I think this was what that female musician was trying to sell yesterday; That Tinubu and Shettima are working tirelessly.

Tirelessly, and 35,000 people don die in 3 years?

Emaprince:
Your bold is also what I wanted to type sef.

Many of the criticisms that dayon turn Igbo vs yoruba. Check weel, you will see people from across Nigeria in there. But his focus will be on the posts from any Igbo moniker.

The video that actually escalated this RCCG was a video made by a Yoruba man, speaking Yoruba.

You think he doesn't know that?