₦airaland Forum

BlueRayDick:
Some governors in different states have fixed federal roads within their states in the past.

Wike fixed series of federal roads in Rivers state during his time s governor and he got reimbursed by Buhari's FG for some of them. I remember seeing Wike's full page advert in the papers thanking Buhari led government for reimbursement for some of the federal roads fixed by rivers state government. It made news headline then because Wike was a hardcore critic of Buhari's government.

I also know Ambode's government had some palliative repairs work done on Lagos-Apapa expressway ( a federal road) during his tenure as governor of Lagos state.

I think governors sometimes fix federal roads in their states just to alleviate the suffering of the people, but whether they will get reimbursement from FG for such intervention projects is not cast in stone at all. It's mostly the prerogative of the FG to decide if you will get reimbursement or not since no agreement was signed with you before embarking on such projects

I definitely know some governors fixed, but the tweet said OBJ, Yar Adua, and Buhari reimbursed governors.

The number of governors that fixed Federal roads since 1999 fit no reach 10 sef.

It's a good thing to fix oh. I'm not blaming Otti for what he did. I'm just saying that reimbursements can only happen with proper arrangements, and not immediately

PDPGuy:
If this story is accurate, then Tinubu is more of a disgrace than I thought

Devoid of sentiments, I think this tweet doesn't explain a lot.

Firstly, there's a budget for the year. The FG has a particular number of Federal roads to fix in the year. If the Federal road in Abia is not captured for the year, and Otti does it, how exactly is he expecting them to refund him? I am asking oh. Pardon my ignorance. Maybe the condition was for him to wait till they capture it in another budget, or he can toll it to get his state funds immediately. But refunding when the road wasn't in the budget looks impossible to me.

If he did it and the road was in the budget, then the tweet is correct.

Secondly, I would like to know how many governors since 1999 ever fixed a Federal road, and how many was ever fixed. State roads wey dem never finish, na Federal road dem wan do? Obaseki even paid and fix a billboard, telling people that Benin to Sapele was a Federal road, not his responsibility.

But I agree with you that Bola Ahmed Tinubu is a disgrace. That one na sure 2 odds

MorataFC:
Most of you have misunderstood the key point.
Yes, an increase in fuel price can reduce patronage, fewer people may travel, and some may resort to trekking if their destinations are not far. But no driver will leave the park with half-full vehicle.

The real question is: how many commuters will actually resort to trekking?
That number is relatively small.
For instance, can you trek from the mainland to the island?
Of course not.
This means a large percentage of commuters still have no choice but to use transport.
People still go to work, school, and markets. So the idea that a driver operates on ₦5,000 worth of fuel and ends up with just ₦50 profit is just LAMBA of the year.

Yes, the number of trips per day may reduce, also your vehicle fuel consumption will also reduce accordingly.
For example, if a driver normally makes 12 trips daily and it drops to 8, their total earnings will naturally be lower than when they made 12 trips,but I believe the increase in fares should help compensate for the reduced demand.

The only way this argument would make sense is if the driver is consistently operating with half-empty passenger loads from the park on every trip. But realistically, even a mad man would not do that, especially with the current high cost of fuel.

An increase in fuel price WILL reduce patronage.

Nobody's salary has increased since fuel ran up to 1320. What do you think they will do?

Mr A earns 200k, and spends 20k on transport monthly.

Now, he would be spending 28k on transport, and also food and other issues have increased, yet his salary remains the same. You don't think he will cut his cost?

Number of trips will obviously reduce, and you can verify from anyone you know personally.

Go to Interstate garages and see vehicles littered everywhere, with drivers sleeping in it. Some might be in the queue for 3 days, and e never reach their turn sef, because no passengers.

Nobody wants to lose in this situation

The driver won't leave the park with half filled passengers.
The passenger will not just pay any amount because you said so. He will also, by any means, reduce it for himself

MorataFC:
That calculation sounds neat, but you ignore a key factor, transport fares have also increased alongside fuel prices.

Why are you people ignoring that fact?
Are drivers still charging the old fares?
Certainly not.

Now, let’s look at this calculations more carefully:

Old Price
Fuel cost comparison (for 4 litres):
Old price: #870 × 4L = #3,480

New price: #1,400 × 4L = #5,600

At the old price:
Keke carries 3 passengers at #300 each = #900 per trip
Assume 6 trips, #900 × 6 trips = #5,400

Profit :
#5,400 − #3,480 =
#1,920 ( by 6 trips )

At the new price:
Keke carries 3 passengers at #500 each, #1,500 per trip
Assume the same 6 trips → #1,500 × 6 = #9,000

Profit:
#9,000 − #5,600 = #3,400 ( per 6 trips )

So even with higher fuel costs, increased fares have more gain the the old petrol price.

Let me go a bit lower sef.

Let assume the transport fares is #400


At the new price (#400 per passenger):
Keke carries 3 passengers at #400 each, #1,200 per trip
Assume 6 trips, #1,200 × 6 = #7,200

Profit:
#7,200 − #5,600 = #1,600 (per 6 trips )

So mathematically the higher the price of fuel in Nigeria the higher the profit for drivers, don't let them bobo you .

The patronage obviously becomes lesser with the increase. I think that's the assumption you're getting wrong.

The roads are currently free in Lagos.

Ibiye to Agbara is 300 naira with Keke. This was the old price at 870/ltr. I still entered it at 300 naira today.

Alakija to 3rd avenue was 500 at the old rate with Okada. It is still 500 to 600 now at 1320/ltr

While I agree with you that 50 naira profit is not true, The increase doesn't mean more money. It brings a lesser patronage for them.

People will rather trek, lap themselves, find private vehicle to beg or get a lift, or find alternative means than pay the increase.

chrisooblog:
Chief unless you're very experienced in transport logistics game best invest your hard earned money in bonds, treasury bills, property and the likes.

Why you no talk since?

I don buy motor finish

BlueRayDick:
Tinubu said all these are baby steps of pain.

Tinubu's supporters say the SMEs have probably been living a fake life all these while. I'm sure if u go through that Morris Monye's comment section, you will see BATists insulting him and calling him all sorts of name. These are guys that have probably not floated any business in Nigeria before o.

I remember seeing them drag this LP guy; Ife Salako who owns "Amala Ibadan" chain of restaurants for supporting Obi and not Tinubu despite operating chain of restaurants in Lagos. Nothing wey dem no call that guy and his business until the day I stepped into one of his restaurant to eat amala and then followed his business page on social media. They even tried to broke shame him for selling Amala to make ends meet.

This guy has in his employment tens to hundreds of youths spread across at least 8 different locations. This guy even gives back to the society more than some of the politicians that finance their loyalists to insult him online. The guy is more credit worthy than most of the BATists insulting him online.

A lot of Nigerians are not exposed, and this cut along all tribes. People who think their world is a perfection reflection of the entire world.

Supporting IMF figures online, but dying in real life.

Tinubu will soon come and tell them how coastal road will benefit their health problems, and they will run with it.

Everybody is really struggling now, and maybe that's just the reset we might need to begin to ask for a better country.

Please what is USA's reason for voting against condemning trans Atlantic slave trade?

They think it's okay?

And I just want experiment for Transportation hustle


Make una no scare me nau

iamoyindamola:
Puma released Ghana WC jersey with 9ja song
Everywhere dan burst

I don laugh tire

See country wey we suppose die for!

Theflint1:
As of 2020, Nigeria had about 12 million registered vehicles.

The money we your average state go dey make from license plate registration fit no reach 200 Million sef, and that's what is supposed to be revenue generation pitch for Dayo's first class menthol

raumdeuter:
You make money from people living in your state, not people living in other states. If you live in Oyo na Oyo dey provide infrastructure for you

Let me give you a simple example of how Kano state makes money

Dangote has thousands of trucks...If not up to a million sef

All his trucks I have seen are either having Kano or Jigawa plates. Imagine the hundreds of millions per year on renewals alone.

Renewals is money, not gatekeeping number plates

raumdeuter:
From this it shows that people are getting Lagos plates from Oyo

You can only get to register your car with any state license in that state.

What they do is that the Oyo licensing officer has her contact in Lagos.

When you say you want Lagos, she calls her contact in Lagos to do it for you
If you say you want Anambra, she calls her contact in Anambra to do it for you.

No state can register for another state.

raumdeuter:
Why will you use Oyo plates in Kano. WHy do you think we have separate Oyo and Kano plates and not just 1 federal plate

But Adelabu wants revenue nau

Is he rejecting money, suddenly?

raumdeuter:
What is secret society about it. Its the same place they are requesting Lagos plates that they will get Oyo plates from. SO why pay the money to Lagos instead of Oyo

Lagos plates will be gotten from Lagos
Oyo plates will be gotten from Oyo

Oyo cannot give you Lagos plates, sir

BlueRayDick:
The Nigerian license plate is centrally produced by a federal agency and there's no law that allows what Adelabu is suggesting (which has actually been established to be comical nonsense)

He could as well just say if someone is relocating from Jigawa to Oyo they should obtain resident permit going forward.

What of Oyo indigenes that seriously want to use Oyo plates, but reside in Kano?

Will Adelabu shut them off, even with them begging him with their money?

raumdeuter:
Yu want organization yet you are celebrating the freedom to be disorganized

To change plates to reflect your state of residence is now an issue, getting insurance is also lack of freedom, getting drivers license is also lack of freedom, Na so people shiiting by the roadside too will say they are expressing their freedom and those telling them to stop are infringing on their freedom

Adelabu wants to turn the purchasing of number plates to a secret society connection, because he wants to make more revenue

We have repeatedly told you that the money is in renewing plates, and not buying it. The 3,000 naira my dad used to buy number plates in the 2000s is a one time payment. He probably has spend 1000x of that renewing the papers till date.

Fight for Oyo to renew all states papers. That's money. That's common sense

This is about making money, and not organization. Adelabu is doing this to make money. Unfortunately, it is just another stewpid idea

BlueRayDick:
As in.....very comical.

Make person dey change plate number anytime he decides to move to another part of the country .

Make dem kukuma turn license plate to Indigeneship certificate na.

Small freedom wey we dey enjoy for Nigeria, Adelabu wan turn am to another thing.

Make people dey change plates like brake pads

GloriousGbola:
You are the one telling us how the man is a brilliant over achiever

But on the campaign trail, the best this man can come up with is the argument of the local govt touts chasing commuters without commercial papers.

This is even lower than that happy hour campaigner.

raumdeuter:
Where will the data come from when the govt has a blind side to it. There are people who reported going to license office and seeing majority of people getting out of state licenses

There is more opportunity to generate IGR without changing much things, simply say stop pushing out of state plate

So what stops Baba Sikuru in Moniya, from calling his brother in Lagos to help him register his car with Lagos plates?

Like I said...The whole concept of his idea is like watery shiiit.

I registered my vehicle with Abuja plates, and it was done in Abuja. I did not enter any licensing office in Lagos or lobby any state civil servant here to get it for me.

You talk as if people need Adelabu's signature before they can talk to other people in Nigeria

raumdeuter:
From people on ground, it shows there are a significant number of drivers who choose Lagos plates in Oyo thus giving that income to Oyo that needs the money
You didnt have light when the previous 10 to 20 Minister of powers were on the seat as well

No data
No figure

Just significant number.

This is a state where Makinde is among those generating the highest IGR outside Oil money.

And Makinde no use number plate ban run am

That video was made in 2019. I am sincerely hoping he has repented of such iberiberism

BlueRayDick:


From one absurdity to another!

I hope you know Vehicle license plates are not transferrable in Nigeria...So because you are relocating to another state you will remove your current license plate and apply for another one for a base rate of 30k at least( Cost of processing is not inclusive o). Don't you see how absurd it sounds?

The more he talks, the more he makes it more comical

The funniest part is that the state license plates of any state is more than the external plates in that state.

If you go to Oyo, you'll see Oyo plates much more than all the other 36 states combined

It's the same for any state.

But somebody sat down, thought about all the ways to generate revenue for his state; Revenue in billions, and the carved out number plates as his strategy?

Now I know why we don't have light

raumdeuter:
If you relocate to any state, you should change your license plate. If you are transitioning or traveling through, or staying temporarily, You do not need to change it

So how will Adelabu know I am staying temporarily?

I go tattoo "Temporarily" for my forehead?

raumdeuter:
Its not fantasy that when you reside in a state you use that states license plate. Abi what makes it absurd?

Wy do we have license plates by state then and not just 1 license plate for the whole country

So if I relocate to Ekiti, I do Ekiti plates
If I stay in Kano for 2 months, I do Kano plates
Then if I spend the December in Anambra, I do Anambra plates?



May sense locate your Bright minded governor

BlueRayDick:


The kind fantasy you are living in your mind ehn.... He said "It's easier for government to do". Whether they advertise plate number or not, a state government does not have the powers to stop anybody from using any other state's license plate on the state road. According to FRSC Act 2007 you can use any license plate from any state nationwide irrespective of the state you are resident in.

A bright mind should know that and not be talking as if there's anything he can do to change something entrenched in a Federal law.

Even if he decides to compel Oyo state of assembly to draft a law to ban Vehicles of residents carrying other state's license plate on Oyo road, the FRSC act will supersede the state law when it is tested in court.

No be small fantasy

The effontery to think you can force anybody to use your number plates.

Abeg, make una no start wetin we no go fit finish for Nigeria. Nigeria has 37 states. It does not start and end with Oyo.

BlueRayDick:
I think the guy was probably having a debate and just needed to say something at that point in time .

I don’t want to believe what in that video is an original thought which he actually believes in and intends to carry out .

I mean how does a governor ban citizens from using license plate of other states before they can use their vehicles in his state ? Where will he draw the power to effect such ban ?

Even if he compels the house of assembly to sponsor a bill to that effect and have him sign it into law; anybody can take the case to court and the law will be trashed by court judgement . It makes no sense at all…..

He will ban residents in Oyo from using license plates of other states

And how does he intend to do that?

Go house to house?

See who Raumdeuter dey famz.....

raumdeuter:
Any revenue matters to a state like Oyo, Its a droplet for Lagos but can be significant in Oyo

That brain was a First class graduate from OAU, was a Senior Manager at PwC, was an Executive Director at First Bank and was deputy Governor at CBN

Hehehehehe

You're making the issue worse with your defense

Paying for a license plate is a one off payment. Renewing it is where the money is.

Instead of your bright brain to think of how to get Oyo to benefitting from all renewals done in the state, he wants to fight for maybe 5k or 10k that will be paid once, for life.

And you say na Bright mind be this...

BlueRayDick:
Lmao 😂

What constitutional powers does he have as a governor to stop people with another state’s vehicle license plate from plying Oyo state road ?

I thought you said the guy is bright .

raumdeuter:
License plate is a way for state to raise revenue. If you live in Ibadan and do not get an Oyo license plate, you are denying Oyo revenue and handing the revenue to Lagos

And how much is the revenue from license plates, that a governor (not local government chairman) is threatening to ban other vehicles plates?

I saw that video and I cannot believe this brain worked with CBN.

He said it in the past sha. I forgive him for such stupeeeedety