₦airaland Forum

mhisbliss:
But the girl fall hands no doubt, she shouldn't have led him on when she knew she'd reject his advances, why give a guy green light then turn him down

Just say
Why give a guy green light when you know the road is blocked?
One can easily relate to that, maybe she was intending to cause accident.

Yeah, that's the deplorable condition a great country like Nigeria has found itself in.
Let the government find means to curtail the excess of 'literate' illiteracy.

It is very hard to see a Yoruba man commit suicide.
You know why? It is because Yoruba peope love their dear life, even without money, they cherish that precious life and can say anything not to lose it except for honour sake.

Rip to the old man, life gave you a hard punch, you could have winced, groaned or weep but still, you chose to end your own life.
The thought is suicidal on its own.

Now, I know you are not the owner of that house, why will your conscience allow you to kill yourself in someone's newly built (ongoing) house.
Now, the person would be afraid to complete or pack in.
Worst, the person might rent it out except if he is a babalawo.
Chaii

Now, on the dog matter.
Since the dog can't eat, why don't you try giving him drip.
I have been to the hospitals and I have seen that the old people who can't eat are being fed through drips or injections.
Try that.
If it works, then accept my proposal.
If it doesn't, then...
Adios

joshuakdboy:
Liverpool would beat a 10 man barca

Impossible

Full time 2-2 Barcelona is still unbeaten

tundeayo2020:
gerarahere mehn. what nonsense... clear penalty ref wave am as if na nothing.

If we nor happy comot for camp nou I go visit that ref this night.

Hope you just saw what was done to Paulinho in the box 18

tundeayo2020:
gerarahere mehn. what nonsense... clear penalty ref wave am as if na nothing.

If we nor happy comot for camp nou I go visit that ref this night.

They wave Messi's own too.
No hard feelings

Thanks God the 'ref' did not blow for penalty

fucktoto:
shey you saw that goal he cancelled?

That got me wondering ooo

Shey dis ref dey play for Madrid ni?

Hehehhe.. Iniesta is out.
Not only Madrid can remove a key player

Messi!!!

scholes0:
Ultimately, identity is a matter of personal conviction.
No matter what others say or think, if you identify as Yoruba, you are one.

It might also interest you to take the note that no ethnic group on this globe is 100% homogeneous- For example there are some Egbiras who now see thenselves as Yoruba , there is this Aba egbira beside my village- they cane as Ebiras but are now with their children and grandchildren nothing but Yoruba. The only thing which remains of their now obsolete identiy is the name of their village “aba Egbira”

Ethnicity is a fluid comcept, and Yoruba is an ethnic group that absorbs and acculturates.
Personally, as far as Nigeria is concerned, Eguns are Yoruba. But then, those who chose not to be are not.
Very simple.

True. It's a matter of conviction but that doesn't mean one has to neglect glaring evidence and historical analysis
A black American might be convicted of being an 'inborn' American but then, when historical facts are presented, they might beg to differ.
One's root is ultimate and shouldn't be taken with levity.
If I claim to be a Yoruba, then I should be able to back it up with enough substantiations.
Truth be told, I am a Liberal. If at the end I find out am not a Yoruba, I will accept and won't hinge on convictions.
I want a situation whereby one can tell me; Hey man, you are an ogu and you ain't a Yoruba, and I will be able to defend myself with veracious claims to buttress why I made that statement.
I hope you get what I am trying to pass across?

Lajet:
No they are not Yoruba and they don't identify themselves as Yoruba

And what make you come to this illation?

scholes0:
Sorry I meant to say that the practice is now obsolete, not the other "not obsolete"
Forget about Aworis, they are Yoruba through and through. The person mentioning Aworis and Eguns in the same sentence discussing their identity does not know what he is talking about.

Are you egun? And what is your personal conviction about the Eguns as a whole?

Yep, I am.
Though I live my early life in the east, coming back to lag was a turning point. I mean, that's my hometown.
I regard myself as a full blooded Yoruba 'person' and I see myself as such.
You know, some says NO! Egun is not Yoruba, I mean, some people who one can regard as connoisseurs, even some of my peers
Though I do rebuff them but then, I said... Let me be sure, I shouldn't be living in a state of skeptical mental ignorance.

I once called an elder in my family to confirm this annotation, he attested to it and said that ogu people are also part of Yoruba.

Now, here is my conviction.
I do think ogu is part of Yoruba, almost everyone in my hometown are well versed in Yoruba and Egun 'sic'
I have hardly come across one (an Egun man) who can't speak Yoruba. Though there are difference in both language when compared, there are some slight similarities though. This can also be said from those in other part of Yoruba climes

scholes0:
Well, as per what you read on wikipedia, the thing is that so many authors on wikipedia rely on written literature from other online sources which they themselves have read at one point or the other since most of them aren't eve from the areas which they are writing things about.
It might have beeen true at a particular time that eguns considered contraceptives to be a taboo, or maybe sme of them considered coitus interruptus a taboo. Probably it wasn't all the eguns that practised it but just a group of them ad most likely the practice is not obsolete, but don't discount it completely because it looks odd to you.

If we are to go by the oral history of all the Gbe speaking groups which include Eguns, Fon, Ewe, Mahi, Adja, Popos (Phlas), Kotafons etc - it all points back to Yoruba. except the Minas who mention Ghana as their own point of origin. Now, whether that makes them Yoruba is another issue. In my opinion it does not make them Yoruba IF they have a different and INDEPENDENT identity, so while the Ewes for example reference Ife and Ketu as their points of origin , they are NOT Yoruba.

For Egun, the case is different because together with their oral history they have also intermixed extensively with Yoruba.
A name like Oluwafemi Senayon or Adeola Hunvi is not uncommon in both Badagry or Porto Novo.

True, even 'I' for example can attest to that.
But I am very sure that the practice of the 'withdrawal method' is now obsolete.
Though, few might still be using it but it isn't idiosyncratic to them.
Jeez... I lose my respect for Wikipedia.
Wikipedia was of the opinion that the ogu peope are different from Yoruba but accepted that the awori people are a sub group of the Yoruba people.
Then, i took my 'self enlightenment' further and discovered that it wasn't true.
Maybe it's what I want to hear, maybe not.. SINCE I am assured of great minds on Nairaland, then I think I can have a concrete answer to hold on to.
Facts to backup my claims and repute any other controversial one.

For example,
The link below asserts that ogu people were originally from ile ife. Here is an excerpt

'The Ogu people are historically reputed to have migrated from the ancient Ketu,(part of Oduduwa’s Kingdom) and they left Ile-ife around the mid-13 th .Century, for Accra in Gold Coast. The Ga/Ewe(Aja-Ogu) speking group of today´s Ghana are indeed the kith and kin of the Ogu of Badagry. The history of Badagry has a fascinating tradition of Kingship (Wheno-Aholu) and local administration.'

Source :
http://association-of-lagos-state-origin-hamburg-ev.com/contents/people

scholes0:
Eguns are not linguistically Yoruba they are More like Fons of Benin republic in that aspect.
That being said, all those ethnic-groups are more or less similar in every other regard. Even in benin republic, Guns and Yorubas have internixed so extensively in porto novo and environs that it is now mostly hard to say which is which.

So, depending on who is concerned, egun can be seen as a part of the larger Yoruba identity, and they might not.

Thanks for this, though I read that they were from ile ife, then later to the Benin republic, Togo et al before they finally settled at Apa (somewhere in Badagry) and this was before Nigeria was colonised
Therefore making them a certified Yoruba.
I just want to be sure because there RE many controversial answers. Not even Wikipedia coz there are some erroneous content in there

Eg ( it was written that the ogu people considers Condom a taboo)

When I read that part, I had to invalidate all what I have simmered in from there because that assertion is mendacious.

So, the main point is that... The ogu people are also part of Yoruba, right?
Though, they have an ethnic language which is egun, so do others. Even the ilaje, ogbomoso, ikare, ondo and the rest has a distinct *tongue* and are still thus classified as Yoruba.

uuzba:
What to build is never the issue
The sincerity to buy the proper materials as specified is always the issue

and why is it that the civil engineers and various blocs in Engineering ain't given the job, instead, they will source for carpenters, laborers etc outside.
I mean, those whom are academically illiterate will be the one given the job.

agadez007:
who even said eguns/ogus are Yoruba?
pls they are Not o

Many egun youths prefer to speak Yoruba but they have a language that they can even sell a Yoruba man without him knowing it
pure egun names are different from Yoruba not all these yorubalised egun of today o

When a Yoruba man don't undastand what u saying they ask you "shey egun lon so ni"? meaning " are you speaking egun",,,why dont they ask if your speaking Obomosho or Oshobo?

Yorubas should pls respect their hosts

Smiles, even an ekiti man can sell another Yoruba in ogbomosho through his language.
We might all be classified as Yoruba, but each tribe has its own distinct language and Yoruba is seen as the general language.
That's why we are mostly bilingual.


Sometimes, I also don't understand some of the stuff my awori, Ilaje, ondo peeps are saying
And if I should say mine, they won't understand either but we all have a common language which is Yoruba.

AustineE1:
They deserve the right to self existence,they say the dont want to be called yorubas,marriage is not by force,since they are denied everything due to them,just because they dont bear names like Tunde,Balogun or Iyabo.....this article exposes the evil of the Nigeria state,you are denied admission to schools or appointments, in the worst form of tribalism known to mankind,simple because you dont have a yoruba tribal name.

And who told you the egun people are not referred to as Yoruba?
When you read some online post, some just generalize and give false impression about a phenomenon

cbrass:
Am good bro, but I haven't. They are not significant here and they don't speak Yoruba to make matters worse only God knows where they came from

Most speak Yoruba fluently.
Sir, please, say what you need know. Some identify themselves with Yoruba while some do not
. Besides, there is nothing like the real Yoruba. It's just a general term for those who originates in the south western region.
Even among those you feel are Yoruba, tell them to speak their real ethnic language to you, you will see there is a difference
We are all brought under the Umbrella of Yoruba (General term)
Nitori n pe, omo Yoruba ni wa.

Hey, I know that the ogu people are an ethnic group, but I want to confirm if they are a sub group in Yoruba?

I mean, do the ogu people identify themselves as Yoruba or not?

NegroNtns:
Precisely! Good to see you

Hello Sir , I hope you are still on Nairaland?
I have been trying to get my facts straight about the Yoruba and Egun (ogu) people.

I did think that the ogu people are a sub division of the Yoruba people. I mean, they are majorly in Badagry, one can even say that they dominates Badagry and Badagry is seen as a major part of lagos.(Lagos as we know today comprises Yoruba,)

I have been trying to make my research on this which made me come across this thread, I haven't been able to get a concrete answer if the Egun people are also Yoruba.While some links agreed that Egun is a sub division of Yoruba, some beg to disagree.
MOST sites I visited were controversial
Now, I don't want to feed posterity with hogwash and hearsays, maybe there is any site you can direct me to, so I can get a concrete answers from there.

Some Yoruba says Ogu people are not part of them, some ogu said likewise. But most (Yoruba and ogu) still thinks the ogu and the Yoruba are one.
I for one think so.
Please, tell me what you know about the Yoruba and the ogu people and I want to be sure if it won't be asinine of me to call an Ogu man a Yoruba





Share your view with me Sir.


Others who are versed on this subject matter can also contribute their opinions.

Waiting for your response BOSS

This one that the military is at the helm of power I just pray it won't lead to nepotism and dictatorship