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Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 12:53pm On Dec 03, 2025
FxMasterz:
Then, why call Ayefele a Christian if you really know who the Bible calls a Christian?

And that I'm not among your 1% is good news. Those 1% you have in your list who don't know Jesus and who have never seen Jesus miracles in their lives should remain with you. I don't belong to that 1%.

Hey, let's have some evidence of God manifesting love to the patients in your hospital. How do we reach them so that God can touch those who deserve His touch?
He said he's a Christian, same way you profess to be a Christian. Abi Christian-o-meter dey? The definitive of a Christian is one who follows christ and that's what both of you say. So u saying Ayefele ain't a Christian cos he has an ailment shows how debased u r. I'm sure if I call out many Christians with different diseases, you'll find a way to say they ain't all Christian.
I have told you I'm giving you my telegram handle to post ur prayer. What other options do you want
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 11:27am On Dec 03, 2025
FxMasterz:
And that's all lies. All doctors admit the supernatural when the unexplainable happens. If that woman has heard a different explanation from the doctors involved, she wouldn't have come on Tik Tok to tell a different story about how prayer helped solve the nail ingestion problem of her baby.

The fact that many Christian doctors pray before treating patients is a sure indicator that they believe in miracles and indeed it does happen.
Correction,not all doctors admit the supernatural. Even the ones that admit the supernatural are Christians and it doesn't mean it's supernatural. For example, when spontaneous cancer remission(which i used as an example before but u r too blinded to read) happens in a Christian. A Christian doctor would say it's god. But scientifically we know it isn't. It's due to multiple factors which include patient immunity. Also I agree we dont everything about cancer remission,however it's not enough to insert god into that knowledge gap. There was a time we attribute a lot of stuff to god like babies,floods,lightning. In the end science came through
For you to say a scientific journal is lying about peristalsis and mass movement shows how religion has eroded your brain and made it poor.
So if a doctor prays before surgery,it was his prayer that worked. So what or who do we blame if there is an anesthetic issue or hemorrhagic shock or a cardiac arrest leading to death? Do we blame the doc or your god for ignoring the doc? cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 10:04am On Dec 03, 2025
FxMasterz:
I said it's closed.

We talk only evidence. Not argument.

And, take note that I'm not buying the many lies in your response. So many Christian scientists believe in miracles. There are doctors who don't treat patients until they have prayed.
I have shown you my evidence which is a scientific text. You have shown none. Keep arguing
So if doctors pray before treating patients,does it mean it's the prayers that healed the patients? You see how confused you are
Christian scientists won't tell you that a nail that turned in the gut was due to prayers. They won't. They would keep their Christianity one side and conduct research. That's what science is all about
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 10:03am On Dec 03, 2025
FxMasterz:
That's where most people miss it. They think people are Christians just because they profess to be. Please if you want to know who a Christian is, study the Bible.
Oga I know who the bible says a Christian is. By the bible data, Nigerian Christians aren't up to 1% and you're not included in this 1%
Politics › Re: Tinubu Meets Service Chiefs, Demands Results In Fight Against Insecurity by jaephoenix(m): 9:49am On Dec 03, 2025
SpaceX:
For how long are we going to keep hoping? Hope is not a strategy. Return the Catholic school children, it's been weeks now..
Your profile says 'Pray without ceasing'. Please continue praying for the children and leave the president. After all he's a man and your god is stronger than him
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 9:42am On Dec 03, 2025
FxMasterz:
Most who claim christians don't even know anything about Jesus.
Oh really? How do I know you're even a Christian since you don't believe others can be Christians
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 9:42am On Dec 03, 2025
FxMasterz:
I don't have time arguing with you folks anyway. The best scientist in the world are Christians, okay?

And as a scientist myself, I can teach you science. So, rest your boasting.

Peristalsis doesn't do rotation. There's no verified scientific source that says it does. Simple.

I've closed this discussion. I may not.longer respond. It is foolishness for a two legged man to be arguing with a one legged man that men have two legs. If the one legged man believes that men have one leg just because he has one leg, let him. What I can give you is evidence of God. Not argument.
The best scientists may be Christians (even though there are more atheist scientists now) but none of them would attribute any phenomenon to supernatural actions. None!
Did you even read any excerpts from Guyton and Hall that I posted? So you read a scientific article and you're still stuck in 'prayer turn nail' pigheadedness?
You say you're a scientist and you agree that prayers turned a nail? Oh my fvcking days!
This corntree is truly in trouble if truly you're one. No wonder we are backwards scientifically
Science has been at loggerheads with religion
Someone would say he prayed and something happens. Ask them to prove it and it's a problem. Patient would bring a convulsing child at 3am and be praying and disturbing me. I usually tell them to either take the child home and continue with their stvpid prayers or shut up and allow me to do my scientific work. They usually do the later. If truly your god works miracles through medical science,he won't make make medical science very costly that only the rich can afford it
You have no evidence of your god.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 7:39am On Dec 03, 2025
FxMasterz:
Prayers are not magic.

God answers prayers only when there's a problem that is beyond you. Not when there's a problem that you can solve yourself. So, you vacuum analogy does not cut it. You can only use that for a magician.

The issue is that only surgery could save the baby, and that's exactly what doctor's wanted to do. Nobody was expecting anything else. The mother prayed, and the nail turn upside down pass harmlessly through the body's intestine out of her body. It happened ONLY AFTER prayers not before. The mother came to testify online but you sit down here denying her testimony.

Tell me how you'll verify apart from the X-ray? You that even lied that peristalsis can move it when you know that peristalsis can't. You deliberately lied because you're bent on denying the miracle.
I used the milieu of a vacuum cos it's an environment that is not affected by external factors like movement (which happens in the gut) and wind. So if we put the nail in that vacuum no other factors like the above listed can impinge then prayers are done. Unfortunately it's difficult discussing science with religious folks cos it seems strange to them just like this is to you. That's why you believe prayers can turn nails
And what do you mean your god ain't a magician? A magician is one with supernatural powers. So if he 'supernaturally' turned a nail then he's a magician. End of
I'm a doctor. And I have explained myself (along with another doctor on this forum) that yes the nail can turn due to gastric motility but we don't take chances cos of the chance of perforation. Our profession works on pragmatism. Somehow this explanations cannot penetrate your religious skull. I have even dropped scientific materials explaining how peristalsis, mass movement move intestinal contents. E no enter your head. You said nobody was expecting the nail to turn but we doctors know and we know other cases where nails turn but no one is taking chances.
Now lemme assume(for the sake of this discussion) that it was her prayers. Was it prayers that turned the nails in other cases too? Those cases weren't even christians. So logically reasoning the claim that prayers turned this particular nail is dead on arrival since it has been proven nails can turn WITHOUT PRAYERS. The mother can claim anything, she is not a scientific person and doesn't understand human physiology.
So all the time I wasted in posting a scientific article on peristalsis, mass movement etc was a waste of time?
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 7:15am On Dec 03, 2025
FxMasterz:
You guys don't understand many things. Who told you that Ayefele is a Christian celebrity? Is it because he sings some Christian songs?
1.He claims he's a Christian
2. He sings gospel songs
What about Cobham? You're denying he's a Christian too? Also i know many like Freky etc who are wheelchair bound. You'll deny them too? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 7:09am On Dec 03, 2025
FxMasterz:
Where will you get it? How will.you receive it?
I'll give you my telegram handle and you can do a prayer note and upload it. And I'll play it for them.
You see how I'm bending over backwards in this wild goose chase to prove you and your god are scammss
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 10:38pm On Dec 02, 2025
FxMasterz:
How would the patients receive the prayer notes?
I'll play it for them
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 10:38pm On Dec 02, 2025
FxMasterz:
Yes we can say the same for those healed of HIV. Some bring their medical reports to the altar. Even science was created by God.

God specializes in things science cannot do.
Give me an example of a HIV patient healed? Those reports are not signed by any doctor that's the point. At least u r educated,if a document isnt signed by an authority, it would not be credible and not admitted in court. Anyone can forge any document.
There are many stricken Christian celebrities eg Cobhams Asuquo,Yinka Ayefele etc. How come they ain't been healed despite copious healing news we get everyday? If they are healed,then that would be a good evidence for miracles cos their ailments have been well documented,one is blind and the other paraplegic
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 10:34pm On Dec 02, 2025
FxMasterz:
The claim that the nail moved was not verified by anyone? Even with all X-ray evidence?

You atheists live by denial. Simple.

When verified reports are presented for things pertaining to God, you deny it, but if presented by science, you'll quickly embrace it.
I meant the claim that it moved AFTER PRAYERS was not verified. Also the fact this cannot be properly verified is due to the movement of the gut. A good way we verify is if we put the nail in a vacuum and you pray,if if it moves,then we can agree prayers work
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity, Free Will, And Modern Technology – Can Devices Influence Human Aut by jaephoenix(m):
MarcinScholke:
In Christianity, free will and human reason are considered essential parts of human dignity. Today, some people raise concerns about whether modern technologies—such as the concepts described in patent US4877027A—could theoretically influence or interfere with human autonomy.
I’m curious from both a Christian and ethical perspective: How should we think about technology that claims to affect the mind or behavior? Do such ideas challenge the understanding of free will, or are they simply speculative concepts?

See MORE https://lov111vol.com/hearing-voices
Yhwh does not condone freewill. It's a myth promoted by Christians when Yhwh clearly trample on freewill of several people in the bible like the Pharaoh, Job,Nehemiah etc. Freewill is an excuse Christians give to put their god out of scrutiny but they pray every day for their god to change the heart of their bosses,spouses,governors,presidents etc thereby disrupting the freewill of those folks listed. It's really funny 😁
Also how is there freewill if an all knowing god already knows what we're gonna do? Does it make sense grin
And finally, let's just assume for the purpose of this discussion that yhwh allows freewill. Then why punish humans for exercising this freewill? It's just like a dad telling his toddler"u can eat ice cream or rice but if you eat rice,imma punish u" of course the child ice cream since rice carries a punished.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 5:16pm On Dec 02, 2025
FxMasterz:
It was an irrelevant question because nono one ever said Foreign objects move only by prayers in the body. You blatantly rejected the fact that the object moved only AFTER prayers but believed without questioning that HIV was cured AFTER applying stem cells.
Was your claims that the nail moved verified by anyone? No. Was the claims that stem cells heal HIV verified? Yes.
That's the difference. Science works by verifiable evidence
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 5:14pm On Dec 02, 2025
FxMasterz:
Nothing new. We have seen HIV cured by the power of God.

But let me behave like atheists do: the information is false. Those guys who wrote that piece need to have their brains checked for believing in some bullshit.

Hahaha. That feels atheistic, isn't it?
This is science. It has been tested and can be retested anywhere,anytime and anyhow and they'd still work. Can we say the same for those healed of HIV? No. Why do you think no doctor has come out to back any claims of healing from pastors? Cos they all turn to be lies. Simple
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 5:12pm On Dec 02, 2025
LordReed:
Man unexpectedly cured of HIV after stem cell transplant

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2506595-man-unexpectedly-cured-of-hiv-after-stem-cell-transplant/

Jaephoenix, FxMasterz
There's even some injectables that can cure HIV. It's no more a death sentence since the days of my clinical rotations
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 5:09pm On Dec 02, 2025
FxMasterz:
It could be your own contact where I can drop a voice note that you could play for those who need prayers.
Again,I can't drop my number for you. Deeply sorry,but I barely know you.
However, u can create prayer notes and I play it for the patients. How's that sound
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 5:06pm On Dec 02, 2025
@FxMastersz
This is a reply to a message u said AI is better than scientific knowledge
For some reasons only S.eun knows,his bots have been feasting on my replies and even stand alone posts

Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 7:35am On Dec 02, 2025
AntiChristian:
I hope you won't wait till eternity!
Wait til eternity for what
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 6:39pm On Dec 01, 2025
Lawag3:
You're asking questions I believe I have already answered.

How do I know my God is timeless? Well I'll say again he created time so that means he existed before time itself

On[b] your third point and question God created time space and matter. this three have to come into existence at the same instance because non of them can exists independently of the other two. doesn't that tell you that for God to have created time he has to be outside time? if not God is just a matter that occupies space at a point in time. Let's take paintings the painter doesn't exist in his paintings and he existed before his paintings[/b].

Doesn't the bolded explain I know God is timeless? If not explain.

The bible has textual variances and it also has perspective difference not one contradiction.

Yes, the vast majority of scientists believe the universe had a beginning, most commonly explained by the Big Bang theory. This theory states that the universe began approximately 13.8 billion years ago from an extremely hot and dense point that rapidly expanded. While this is the leading explanation supported by a wide range of evidence, alternative ideas continue to be explored by some researchers, though many of these are designed to work within or extend the Big Bang model.

The above was copied after a simple Google search.

So yes the world/ universe have a beginning according to science the big bang everything came into existence immediately after the big bang matter space time all the laws that governs the universe. Before that science doesn't know what was before the big bang.

So if matter space and time as we know it did not exist before the big bang then what did?

This you'd agree with me is a knowledge gap.

I tried to bridge this gap using God

I said this many Christians including myself believe that creation started from nothing or what appears to be nothing ( most of science agrees with that)because I believe that in the beginning the universe wasn't simply a void of absolute nothingness and I went on to add, even if it was, something changed that. [/b]the bible describes creation as God saying it and it just happened like God created the universe from his word. [b]I don't know if the process of creation was a chemical one that span billions of years or if it was instantaneous.( this is me saying the big bang could have been a tool of creation) so I don't know why you assumed that I said God just said something and stuff started popping into existence Thanos-esque. Take for example Genesis 1:11 (KJV) And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. Notice how it did not say immediately it was so again take 1:20Genesis 1:20 (KJV) And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. According to the scientific consensus is that life likely began in the water. Evidence includes fossil records showing the earliest life was aquatic, we cannot say for sure that God's creation was instantaneous. It doesn't say so in the bible.

Stephen Hawking and Lawrence Krauss are two scientists who discussed how the universe could have started from "nothing". [/[b]b]Their ideas, however, involve a scientific concept of "nothing"—such as empty space with quantum fluctuations—rather than a complete absence of anything.

I also copied the above from a simple Google search

Plus the bible never said the universe was a void Genesis 1:2 called the EARTH a void and formless not the universe.

I dont know where you got your coincidence story. I personally believe we dont know how we came about. The abounding theory is that we came from a unicellular organism and evolved. Thats all there's to it. Well if you don't believe that everything life as we know it was a coordinated process by someone intelligent and conscious then you do believe all as we know it is as a result of multiple coincidences.


When you say Jesus said epilepsy was demonic it means all epilepsy is as a result of demon which Jesus never said . The boy's case specifically was as a result of a demon. It's like saying oh this person sickness is as a result of smoking it doesn't mean all sickness is as a result of smoking.


On the dinosaurs they existed before man. That's all I know . Some one once told me that when God threw Satan to earth that caused an extinction event killing life rendering the earth without form and void. But that's what he said. I can't say what I don't know.


I said I don't believe in evolution? Is it because I did not add commas and punctuation marks?

Because this is what I said To you the idea of creation negates evolution to me it doesn't I believe God gave his living creatures the ability to adapt to certain conditions which could lead to evolution. and I said I did not believe in the evolution of Man specifically. the bible shows man as an abiogenetical creation of God. It said man was formed from Genesis 2:7 (KJV) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Man was created differently from other animals.

I don't know. But then I have studied My God his works his word. I have studied other religions and compare them. The evidence points to me that the God of the bible is the only genuine God. Relationship with My God is personal so yes you can experience My God.

But then you'd be a complete idiot to take my word for it that's why I urged you to study find evidences study the gospel study God in the old and New testament study the gods of other religions and compare them then come to your conclusion.

Cc LordReed
So what is your evidence that Yhwh created time and space? I'm not doubting but how do you know the time and space isn't eternal since you believe Yhwh is eternal.
OMFG! You actually believe the bible doesn't have contradictions? I made a whole ass topic on it and there has been several books written on the contradictions,lies and miseducation in the bible. https://www.nairaland.com/7659505/book-bible-gaffes

Before big bang,science doesn't know the events leading up to it. So that means it doesn't know if the world has a beginning since big bang technically isnt the beginning of the universe. So science doesn't know the actual beginning.

Bridging a knowledge gap with god is where the problem lies. I gave you examples where humans thought god was responsible for flood etc. It's lazy thinking to bridge any knowledge gap with a god. It's fallacious and wrong.

So you're saying there was a time lag from when god said something before it materializes? So it wasn't immediate? Really? Do you think your fellow Christians believe the same?
The bible clearly said it was instantaneous. Stop twisting your bible

Your bible didn't even talk about other planets creation,it devoted its creation stories to earth alone. So assume that universe to be strictly earth.

About Jesus and the demon possessed boy, your Jesus said his epilepsy is due to demon possession. And I'm telling you as a physician that NO epilepsy is due to demon possession. None. Not even one. Let that sink in

Bro,evolution of man is a proven scientific fact. We have evolved from a raw meat eating man to cooked meat. Thats why we have an incisor and an appendix. Now these organs are lying dormant in our body. We also had tails as fetuses growing in the womb. I can tell several instances but you can read up yourself

Same way a muslim would say Allah is his favorite sky daddy and he has a personal relationship. Same way a Hindu would say Brahma is the main dude and he has a relationship. None of yall presenting a single shred of evidence proving your gods exist. How can you expect me to believe the 'evidence' in your bible that your god exists. Would you believe any evidence from the Koran or Veda?

Sorry for the late response
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 5:18pm On Nov 30, 2025
FxMasterz:
I'm not here to argue with you.

Elijah had contact with the people whom he showed the power of God.

Everyone did.

Give me the necessary contacts. I will prove God to those who need God, not to a sorner. Elijah proved God to the Israelites who needed God, not to the prophets of Baal.

Let the fire fall.
Lol 😆
So there are people who don't need god? I didn't know. I guess the bible verse where Jesus told yall to spread the gospel to the ends of the earth was a joke,or maybe u haven't read that verse too. Bro stop dodging and show the power of your god. You boasted some time ago that you prayed and Maynmann stopped posting on Nairaland (even though there's no evidence to that effect) grin grin grin
So bring in on bro.
About patient contacts, do you mean phone numbers,names,social media etc. You intend calling them personally?
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 3:51pm On Nov 29, 2025
NicoleSilvera:
"If you doubt Jesus, ask yourself—what other god can do wonders like this? ✝️💫"
Gods like Allah,Brahma,Zeus etc can do better
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 3:49pm On Nov 29, 2025
FxMasterz:
So, atheism has a. god. And the god is a capital G. That's good to know. I have always said it that Atheism itself is a religion.

God didn't prove Himself to Baal or to Dragon. Show me where He did that. God always prove Himself to His children who put their trust in Him.

I will have the contact of your patients after you have their consent to release it. I'll pray over the phone or send voice notes of prayers to them so that they can be healed. You can televise your actions if you so desire.
Obviously u can see I used paraphrase around the word God of atheism, meaning it is not real.
About your god proving himself, it seems yall christians don't read your bible cos you're the second christian I'm showing this verse about yhwh flexing his muscle....
If you can't read the book your belief is based off,why then engage atheists? undecided

1 Kings 18:18-40
18 “I have not made trouble for Israel,” Elijah replied. “But you and your father’s family have. You have abandoned the Lord’s commands and have followed the Baals. 19 Now summon the people from all over Israel to meet me on Mount Carmel. And bring the four hundred and fifty prophets of Baal and the four hundred prophets of Asherah, who eat at Jezebel’s table.”

20 So Ahab sent word throughout all Israel and assembled the prophets on Mount Carmel. 21 Elijah went before the people and said, “How long will you waver between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him.”

But the people said nothing.

22 Then Elijah said to them, “I am the only one of the Lord’s prophets left, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets. 23 Get two bulls for us. Let Baal’s prophets choose one for themselves, and let them cut it into pieces and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. 24 Then you call on the name of your god, and I will call on the name of the Lord. The god who answers by fire—he is God.”

Then all the people said, “What you say is good.”

25 Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire.” 26 So they took the bull given them and prepared it.

Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. “Baal, answer us!” they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made.

27 At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.” 28 So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. 29 Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.

30 Then Elijah said to all the people, “Come here to me.” They came to him, and he repaired the altar of the Lord, which had been torn down. 31 Elijah took twelve stones, one for each of the tribes descended from Jacob, to whom the word of the Lord had come, saying, “Your name shall be Israel.” 32 With the stones he built an altar in the name of the Lord, and he dug a trench around it large enough to hold two seahs[a] of seed. 33 He arranged the wood, cut the bull into pieces and laid it on the wood. Then he said to them, “Fill four large jars with water and pour it on the offering and on the wood.”

34 “Do it again,” he said, and they did it again.

“Do it a third time,” he ordered, and they did it the third time. 35 The water ran down around the altar and even filled the trench.

36 At the time of sacrifice, the prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed: “Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, let it be known today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things at your command. 37 Answer me, Lord, answer me, so these people will know that you, Lord, are God, and that you are turning their hearts back again.”

38 Then the fire of the Lord fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench.

39 When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried, “The Lord—he is God! The Lord—he is God!”

40 Then Elijah commanded them, “Seize the prophets of Baal. Don’t let anyone get away!” They seized them, and Elijah had them brought down to the Kishon Valley and slaughtered there.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 2:36pm On Nov 29, 2025
Lawag3:
Good morning. Okay great questions some of them.

Every thing that exists in time and occupy space is matter right and since matter exists in time it has a beginning because something without a beginning would be timeless.

Almost all scientist believe that the universe began like it had a beginning. Some believe it began from nothing . How is that possible? I don't know. many Christians including myself believe that creation started from nothing or what appears to be nothing ( most of science agrees with that)because I believe that in the beginning the universe wasn't simply a void of absolute nothingness even if it was something changed that the bible describes creation as God saying it and it just happened like God created the universe from his word. I don't know if the process of creation was a chemical one that span billions of years or if it was instantaneous. Science tries to explain the concept of creation from nothing with quantum fluctuations and quantum physics but it is unable to physics has not yet found confirmed instances of something arising from nothing in a way that definitively proves this processes. This was supposed to disprove God that's there's a divine hand in creation but as of today it hasn't.


So how did God get the materials to create the universe? First God isn't a bricklayer that needs material. He created everything from his word you might not believe this and you don't have to .

This brings us to your second point of inserting God into a knowledge gap that's classic human behavior and for good reasons I got to admit I do so because of two reasons one being evidence for like the fact that life can only come from life and the fact that you and many like you are basically saying that everything as we know it is as a result of multiple coincidences and make it seem like we are unreasonable for believing that no all as we know can't be as a result of multiple coincidences and mistake that every law that governs physics chemistry life time space matter are just as a result of coincidences. That there has to be some sort of guidance from a higher conscious being an intelligent being. Anyway I'm won't lie evidence that supports my beliefs were not enough for me that brings me to the second reason evidence against. The evidence against are not conclusive as of now they have not disprove my beliefs in God and for now they affirm my beliefs that for instance abiogenesis there's no instance of complete abiogenesis. Or many of those other theories are inconclusive.

Coming to think of it now the only record of complete abiogenesis was done by God as recorded in Bible Adam formed from dust. The day nature or science accomplish that then you standing becomes stronger.

So from all I have written you can tell I did not just come to the conclusion of God did. Some may say the evidence that points to God being the author of creation isn't enough but the evidence against God are not conclusive.

PS Jesus never said that epilepsy was demonic.
I believed in that instance that that epilepsy the boy was suffering from was as a result of a demon Jesus said so and cast the demon out which ended the epilepsy Jesus before then had healed countless people and I think this one and the mad man he healed are the only ones he termed to be as a result of demon possession. Not that all madness and epilepsy are as a result of demon possession.


On your third point and question God created time space and matter this three have to come into existence at the same instance because non of them can exists independently of the other two doesn't that tell you that for God to have created time he has to be outside time if not God is just a matter that occupies space at a point in time. Let's take paintings the painter doesn't exist in his paintings and he existed before his paintings.

So yeah basically God existed before time he created it so he has to exist outside it.

On your fourth point well if you ask me you shouldn't at least not blindly you should study find evidences study the gospel study God in the old and New testament study the gods of other religions and compare them then come to your conclusion I did and I can tell you evidence points to My God as the God of all flesh and of Creation.

On your fifth point I agree with you 100% but then the conditions and laws that governs our Bodies and universe I consider them almost perfect your if not the universe will be chaotic and disorderly you do agree with me that's there's an other to which the human body works and once something disrupts that order then you have sickness disease take our world for example earth meets the very slim requirements to sustain life it's the only planet that we can verify sustains life because it meats the rules there is a delicate balance.

So while our Bodies and universe are not perfect if they follow certain rules and meet certain conditions they have the potential to be nearly perfect.


To you the idea of creation negates evolution to me it doesn't I believe God gave his living creatures the ability to adapt to certain conditions which could lead to evolution. God's creation of the universe could as well been a chemical process like God sets the laws of physics chemistry and biology and all other scientific laws uses them as a blue print to further create everything everything else or God starts the process of creation and directs it until we got to the point where we are today.
But that being said I do not believe in the evolution of Man specifically . In the bible there is a mention of the earth without life as we know it. The bible describes this earth as without form and it was void. I know someone who could explain this better than I ever could.

On you last question I think I have already answered this question the universe isn't perfect it is infact very hostile to life but then there are requirements that must be reach to sustain life .

There are rules and laws the universe must not break on a large scale of it must remain sustainable.( A thought came to my head that the whole universe is matter when is it in time what space doe it occupy ) this show be a discussion for another time.

In conclusion nobody have ever seen a universe being created nobody saw the big bang nobody saw the dinosaurs. But there are evidence that points to all this existing. So the evidence I have seen forms my beliefs of God being the Author of creation.

Are you sure God doesn't exist? What are the basis for you atheist beliefs.

Omo next time guy you're obligated to send me a truck load of vitamin tablets and energy drinks .

I hate typing it tires me TF out.
This bot has been dealing with me today. So i have to alter my posts severally.
Most of the sentences you made didn't make sense cos it was in long convoluted sentences. Please try to use commas and full stops.
How do you know your god is timeless. In fact how do you determine the characteristics of your god. If you use the bible,it would be wrong cos it has been found to be self contradictory,inconsistent and errant.

Which scientists said the world has a beginning? I dont think scientists believe the world came from nothing. Show me your source. The general consensus is Big Bang,and before that,we dont know. If you dont believe the universe was a void, you would be contradicting your own source,the bible. You're basically saying the same thing. According to you,your god just said something and stuff started popping into existence Thanos-esque. So its basically saying something came from nothing, which is exactly what you theists have been laughing at.

I dont know where you got your coincidence story. I personally believe we dont know how we came about. The abounding theory is that we came from a unicellular organism and evolved. Thats all there's to it.

Again,quoting your creation story doesn't make sense. Ditto what i said up there: the bible is not an inerrant source of knowledge.

You're confusing yourself. You said 'Jesus never said that epilepsy was demonic' and in the same breath said 'that epilepsy the boy was suffering from was as a result of a demon Jesus said so and cast the demon out which ended the epilepsy'

U said the earth was without life and form. You still didn't say anything about dinos existing.

You said you dont believe in evolution. Are you for real? Before i explain it,are you a science student?

You skipped the question where i asked you how you know its your favorite god that created the earth. It seems a sticking point for theists. Why?

So why do you thonk your god is special. I'm waiting....

I hate typing too. What you need isnt vitamins and energy drinks. You need glucose.

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