Christianity Etc › Re: Religious People Are The Most Evil People On Earth by jaephoenix(m): 10:39am On Apr 02, 2025 |
paxonel: 2nd question is no doubt alteration of figures due to different accounts, one in kings and the other in chronicles.
It's more or less like this historical argument between the benin people and the Lagos indigenous people each having their own sources of history from different accounts as to who founded the Lagos kingdom?
What the bible does is to have the two sources of history and their different accounts recorded. One for kings, the other for chronicles.
Not that the bible is contradicting or inconsistent. Rather, the bible is also a book of historical records.
But the overall message is, King Jehoiachin was a child, possibly between 8 to 18years when he started ruling So two sources saying different things are not contradictions, and you are comparing the Bible, a book supposedly inspired by a divine being, to works of history written by man? So the Bible cannot get its shit together yet its said to be the word of a god? In case you're too buried in the Bible and don't know the meaning of the word contradiction, this is it. contradiction noun a combination of statements, ideas, or features which are opposed to one another. And no, the Bible is not a work of history. If so, it would have been quoted as a source of history in history classes worldwide |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious People Are The Most Evil People On Earth by jaephoenix(m): 9:32am On Apr 02, 2025 |
paxonel: Dont try to change it. Dont even go there.
2 Samuel 24:1 did not use the word INCITE. Rather, it used the word ANGER.
Now, look at this one
Judges 10:7 And the anger of the LORD was hot against Israel, and he sold them into the hands of the Philistines, and into the hands of the children of Ammon.
The same way God allowed the Philistines and Ammonites to defeat Israel because he was angry with them,that's how God allowed Satan to use David because he was angry with the Israelites. So, there is no contradiction between the two scriptures
Is that too difficult to understand?
When i say there is no way you atheists can understand bible than a little child or even an illiterate who is Christian, you will think I'm joking.
Why jumping into argument over what you don't understand are you not fooling yourself like this? 1 Chronicles 21:1 ► New International Version Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel ◄ 2 Samuel 24:1 ► New International Version Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go and take a census of Israel and Judah 1.From The above verses, one said Satan and the other god. So who do we blame? So Paxonel how do you know the bible wanted to say Satan and put god instead? So do we substitute god for satan in bible passages? 2.Assuming we take your explanation that god sent Satan, so u r saying Satan is gods servant? Everything he does is for god? You keep on shooting yourself in the poor foot any single time you explain those verses Lol 😆 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious People Are The Most Evil People On Earth by jaephoenix(m): 9:23am On Apr 02, 2025 |
StillDtruth: If indeed you are not evil, you would have seen that he is the one bullying us for no one here has forced anyone to accept.
Threads here are even directed towards Christians, so there isn't any one bullying him.
Thirdly, no one has set an essay exam amounting to 100 questions. You all called such a person a devil, But your guy, did it.
So, you see, it is you atheists who are devils most especially as what you call inconsistencies have been straightened out severally, which is why it is only you devils who see what you call inconsistencies. No reasonable and fair person has ever said so. And it is only when God kicks them out and they become devils and atheists that they start talking this rubbish.
So, church-going people have been found to be unrighteous and bad but they cannot be compared to atheists.
Even atheists don't want to marry atheists.
https://www.nairaland.com/7398522/experience-atheist-dating-world#117823562
Imagine devil pikin dey run from atheists. Clearly proves that you people are the most evil people on earth. Omoawoke shebi I tell you. The guy won't answer, and not just that, insults would be streamed your way. That's just how he rolls. We are used to him that way. You understand why I call him a psycho now? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious People Are The Most Evil People On Earth by jaephoenix(m): 9:20am On Apr 02, 2025 |
Omoawoke: There’s no need insulting him… Simple answer the questions he asked
Are there inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible? Yes or no?
Does the Bible stories make any iota of sense ? Yes or No….
So if he is unable to believe those stories based on their irregularities, what’ has he done wrong? Or you want to force him and bully him to believe what you believe before he can be accepted… Can you now see why religious people are the most evil, narrow minded and stupid people the universe has ever had ? Dont bother asking him. He won't answer. Next thing is he'll start throwing insults at you. Watch |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious People Are The Most Evil People On Earth by jaephoenix(m): 9:19am On Apr 02, 2025 |
StillDtruth: Says the most foolishest atheists of all man and animal kind How are you bro? I miss your waffling and faffing. Hope say u don start your antipsychotics  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious People Are The Most Evil People On Earth by jaephoenix(m): 9:17am On Apr 02, 2025 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:30pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Emusan: Growth has been part of living things, it's not a proof for evolution.
The same part of Europe that are getting taller can be grown smaller in few years time.
Have you recorded transition of one animal to another thing as you claim about living things evolution on earth? You don't even understand what I'm saying. I said the average growth of some regions of Europe are higher than what it was decades or centuries ago. Also I asked you about human tail. U haven’t replied |
Christianity Etc › Re: Not All Muslims Are Terrorists, But All Terrorists Are Muslims. by jaephoenix(m): 11:27pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
essentialone1: https://europeanconservative.com/articles/analysis/islamist-terror-in-the-congo-70-beheaded-christians-added-to-the-ranks-of-martyrs/
Islamist Terror in the Congo: 70 Christians Beheaded
On February 13th, 2025, Islamic militants rounded up 70 Christians in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), took them to a church, and then beheaded all 70 of them.
The militants are suspected to be members of the Islamist “Allied Democratic Forces.”. Human rights organization Open Doors reported:
Militants went door by door saying, ‘Get out, get out and don’t make any noise,’ said an elder. ‘Twenty Christian men and women came out, and they tied them up for an unknown destination.’
After the 20 were taken, the rest of the village was agitated and began to try to figure out how to free the people who had been abducted. They gathered together to develop a plan, but by the time they met, militants had surrounded their village. Open Doors sources report that the extremists captured about 50 other Christians and tied them up.
All 70 captives were taken to a Protestant church in Kasanga where they were killed inside with machetes or hammers.
Field sources say that even several days after the attack, some families had not been able to bury their dead because of the insecurity in the region. Many Christians have fled the area to somewhere deemed safer.
Located south of the Sahara in Central Africa, the DRC is the largest country in the sub-Saharan region. Its population is approximately 100.5 million people. Around 95% of the population identifies as Christian.
Despite the country being predominately Christian, in its 2025 World Watch List, Open Doors ranked the DRC as the 35th worst place for Christians. This ranking stems from the fact that armed groups in the eastern regions of the country are targeting and killing Christians. Hundreds of Christians have been raped or otherwise sexually harassed in the DRC for faith-related reasons.
The Islamist terror group ravaging DRC is ISIS (Islamic State)’s regional affiliate in the country. The group is also known locally as Madina at Tauheed Wau Mujahedeen (City of Monotheism and Jihadists‒MTM).
The Islamic State calls Congo its “Central Africa Province.” The United States designated ISIS-DRC as a foreign terrorist organization in 2021.
The Allied Democratic Forces have been operating in the DRC since 1995. Originally, the group’s stated goal was to overthrow the government of Uganda and establish an Islamic state there. But in recent years, there has been a significant shift in the terror group’s rhetoric and ideology toward a broader focus on Islamism.
The European Centre for Law and Justice (ECLJ) reported in 2024:
An Islamic extremist group called the Allied Democratic Forces that has pledged allegiance to ISIS is attacking and killing Christians in the DRC. Christians, particularly in the eastern part of the country, are being ruthlessly murdered, abducted, and raped. Churches in that part of the DRC are being attacked. Further, the terrorists kidnap Christian women, rape them, and forcibly marry them to keep the women as ‘trophies.’
Because of the violence in this region, many Christians have been forced to leave their homes in order to seek refuge. According to Eale Bosela, the regional director for the Association for Christian Theological Education in Africa, ‘[t]he Eastern Congo has become a theater of violent extremism’ and ‘[p]eople are being massacred like animals.’
The scale of attacks by Islamic militants in the country is alarming: Christian villages have been burned down, and pastors, priests, and lay Christians have been abducted by the Allied Democratic Forces and other armed factions. From Kinshasa, the capital, to the central Kasai Province and the eastern North Kivu Province, churches, convents and Christian schools have been vandalized and looted by militiamen. Hundreds of Christian-owned businesses have been ruined by this and other armed groups.
In areas controlled by the Allied Democratic Forces, travel and access to education are difficult for Christians, and any expression of Christian faith is dangerous. Driven by its Islamist ideology, the group targets Christians who openly display their faith, often subjecting them to abductions, severe beatings, or even killings.
In 2024, the terror group intensified its attacks on Christian communities. In June 2024, for instance, over 80 Christians were killed in a series of assaults on villages in the eastern provinces.
One coordinated attack on June 7 resulted in the beheading of 60 Christians in the Masala villages of North Kivu province.
On June 12, another Islamist attack in the village of Mayikengo resulted in the deaths of 42 Christians. The militants used firearms and machetes to carry out the massacre.
From January to June 2024, Islamic militants killed 639 Christians in various incidents, including beheadings and shootings, primarily in North Kivu and Ituri provinces, according to a report released by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).
Abductions and sexual violence against Christians are also widespread in the country. According to the findings of the research conducted by Open Doors:
Christian women and girls living in areas controlled by Islamic radicals face violent persecution for their faith. They are vulnerable to abduction, rape, trafficking, and sexual slavery. Church leaders who speak out against violence are particularly susceptible to brutal attacks. If captured, they could face maiming, abduction, forced labor, sexual mutilation, and death. Christian women also experience persecution through denial of inheritance, access to their children, and vulnerability to forced marriage. Girls as young as 12 are forcibly married, often subjected to early pregnancies, and face domestic violence due to entrenched cultural practices. Many women are used as human shields during conflicts. The persecutors sometimes put women (sometimes pregnant) and small girls in front, knowing that they cannot be easily shot. Christian men face violent and extreme forms of persecution, including maiming, abduction, forced recruitment into militia groups, forced labor, sexual mutilation, disemboweling, and brutal killings. While women and girls face the highest rates of rape, men and boys also face sexual violence. In areas by Allied Democratic Forces, Christian children can be abducted from school or forced to learn Islamic scriptures. Underreporting and restricted access to certain regions mean the actual scale of the crisis is likely much greater. Ryan Brown, the CEO of the Open Doors US, told europeanconservative.com:
The DRC government has been struggling to maintain control and provide security for many years, especially in the eastern regions. Much of the country is remote and has been at war (with over 100 different armed groups) for over 50 years. There is also evidence of interference from neighboring countries, and corruption within the DRC government.
Sadly, given the longstanding instability in countries like the DRC, it is tempting for reporters sometimes to view the latest developments as old news. But this does not make the impact any less real on Christians who are trying to live normal lives and practice their faith unharmed. We call on anyone who is moved by these tragedies to join us in praying for their safety. What's your point? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Atheists And Their Atheism: Part 1 by jaephoenix(m): 11:25pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Speaklove: I'm saying there many plaintiffs who wouldn't get justice in the human court because the world's system are corrupt ,and that would make the world justice system and imperfect one .
Many crimes would pass on as untouched and undisclosed because men's judgement can't discern them because of the insufficiency of the world's most sophisticated inventions . Even artificial intelligence can't discern or judge some matters right because they are also dependent on human progressivism to advance .
The world is already dealing with so many issues of injustice or unintentional misjudgements and many people are already suffering for crime they no nothing about .
So unless they is a God many of theses people would die and end as victims of injustice . But if there is a God who waits to judge in the afterlife then such persons would be avenged and get justice at the end . Do you have any evidence that yhwh would bring justice to the universe? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Atheists And Their Atheism: Part 1 by jaephoenix(m): 11:22pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Speaklove: Who do you think in the entire history of the world ever stood for the good men and gave more than Jesus Christ ; whose deeds has influenced people towards becoming luminaries of human welfares ? Jesus Christ, (if he existed) never did all those things recorded in the Bible. No evidence |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Atheists And Their Atheism: Part 1 by jaephoenix(m): 11:21pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Speaklove: I don't think you've answered this part of he question below :
"What do you think could motivate you as an atheist to do good to your enemy who apparently seek your hurt even your death ?" Because I have CONSCIENCE |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion ,atheism ,and Men's perspectives Concerning God. by jaephoenix(m): 11:02pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Speaklove: Romans 1:20 [20]There are things about God that people cannot see—his eternal power and all that makes him God. But since the beginning of the world, those things have been easy for people to understand. They are made clear in what God has made. So people have no excuse for the evil they do. Allah says he created everything and its recorded in the Qoran too. Why don't you believe him but believe Yhwh? |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 11:00pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Gabrielshow24: 🤨 What's your end goal in this discourse?
Well, There are plethora of recorded "healings" from the time of Jesus even till now.
Some notable instances can be found in the televised healings of TB Joshua.
'Others'👀 can be subject to great scrutiny. There are also documented "display of healings" from God's generals.
You can query to confirm🤨 About Jesus healings, they never happened. There's no evidence the stories in the Bible are real TB Joshua is a known scammer. Even watching Emmanuel TV is a funny pastime for me watching the whole scripting shit happening. As in video would follow how a cripple walks into the church til he is healed I have read Gods Generals. Many of the 'faith healers' there like Kathleen Kuhlmann etc are known scammers |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Atheists And Their Atheism: Part 1 by jaephoenix(m): 10:12pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Speaklove: You Haven't answer the question I asked earlier . Yes the subject is injustice ,secret sins ,and the weaknesses of the world's system .
Now this is connected to faith in God which brought Jesus into the discussion .
So answer the question What question? And what has that passage gotta do with us? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Atheists And Their Atheism: Part 1 by jaephoenix(m): 10:12pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Speaklove: Why are you shying away from the question ?
Well I will give this :
John 8:3-11 [3]The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought a woman they had caught in bed with a man who was not her husband. They forced her to stand in front of the people. [4]They said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. [5]The Law of Moses commands us to stone to death any such woman. What do you say we should do?” [6]They were saying this to trick Jesus. They wanted to catch him saying something wrong so that they could have a charge against him. But Jesus stooped down and started writing on the ground with his finger. [7]The Jewish leaders continued to ask him their question. So he stood up and said, “Anyone here who has never sinned should throw the first stone at her.” [8]Then Jesus stooped down again and wrote on the ground. [9]When they heard this, they began to leave one by one. The older men left first, and then the others. Jesus was left alone with the woman standing there in front of him. [10]He looked up again and said to her, “Where did they all go? Did no one judge you guilty?” [11]She answered, “No one, sir.” Then Jesus said, “I don’t judge you either. You can go now, but don’t sin again.”
You see they were convicted ,they all knew they were as guilty as her and Jesus used wisdom to deal with the situation .
He made them realize god knew of their secrets sins and their conscience bear witness What is the correlation of this fairy tale to our discourse? |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:07pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Gabrielshow24: 😂😂😂😂 In summary, you make your god very incapable🤨.
Apart from first postulating that he was foolish now you have affirmed his inability to do anything 🙃!!!
My God is capable of healing even👀 in this generation!!!
Not one whose power is restricted to the biblical era after all God is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow!!!
Now, I see how you don't find it as hypocrisy when your Michael 'bullied' demons in heaven only to be bullied on Earth and then told all to turn the 'other cheek'.
Once again Max strikes 'gold'. Do you have evidence of one person that has been healed |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:06pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
delkuf: so I should be campaigning over the place abi. Didn't hear of miracles during covid 19. People that was heal from covid 19 Nobody was healed. They are all scripted |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:05pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: I'm not talking to you rather my post is meant for the OP who said to me:
You are an atheist never ready to learn and moreover you have told me:
So is your brain now malfunctioning that you forgot that you said you will stop talking to me?  You have broken your promise towards me too. So shut up |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious People Are The Most Evil People On Earth by jaephoenix(m): 10:00pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Lucifyre: This is quite funny, scientifically proven?! Wow! Even a 5mins search through this section would bring out several lists of unreconcilable contradictions. Anyways since you want to clear any little doubt left that you're indeed dense, be my guest. Simple litmus test then, with a simple yes or no for the first 2 questions and reputable academic sources/consensus for the 3rd.
1. Does god change his mind? 2. Has any man seen god? 3. Where's the scientific proof/evidence the sun can 'stand still' and that it indeed 'stood still'?
Quite straightforward. Tick tock retardinho. 🙂 Watch him beat around the jungle and end up tripping himself up  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious People Are The Most Evil People On Earth by jaephoenix(m): 9:58pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
Omoawoke: It’s just a whole lot and it would be too tiring.
I would say one create another thread for that next time…
Just too much contradictions, inconsistencies and nothing is scientific about the Bible please.. Don’t ever say that the Bible is scientific again… it’s totally absurd!
Let me give chat gpt to give you some very obvious contradictions Dont bother bro. I have pointed him to a thread I created about bible gaffes. Let him go through the hundreds of passages there  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious People Are The Most Evil People On Earth by jaephoenix(m): 9:55pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
StillDtruth: See atheist complaining because things are very very hard for him The Nairaland resident psycho shows up in time  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious People Are The Most Evil People On Earth by jaephoenix(m): 9:54pm On Mar 30, 2025 |
paxonel: It's an open question and serious challenge to atheists worldwide Lucifyre is confused and doesn't know what to do about the challenge 
Present your argument let's see what reasonable explanation you can put foward as to why you are an atheist. Show me just one verse in the bible that is contradictory or cannot be scientifically proven I'll go one better: I'll present passages that are not just contradictory but are plain lies! In fact, they are so many I had to put them into paragraphs. Here, check this link and see all the numerous passages and how your fellow christians were waffling all over that thread. https://www.nairaland.com/7659505/book-bible-gaffesYou can make your rebuttals here |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 11:20pm On Mar 29, 2025 |
gohf: IF a big IF, because babies come from human sexually relations and though God miracles enables some to bear children it is something he has set forth into motion like every other natural occurrences.
So if two people without God's divine intervention have issues that prevent conception there would be no baby. It's like age for instance in the case of Sarah, or not knowing a man like Mary, it's natural that they as women don't conceive The bolded is a lie. Assisted conception is not god given concept |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion ,atheism ,and Men's perspectives Concerning God. by jaephoenix(m): 11:14pm On Mar 29, 2025 |
Speaklove: A discussion between a theist and an atheist :
THE TESTIMONY OF A FREED MAN : TWO KINGDOMS ONE SOUL.
PAGE ~26 : THE DIVINE KNOWLEDGE .
Few minutes After the angry philosopher left ; Someone walked close to me from behind and said "don't mind that foolish, and mad fellow ! He talks like a drunk mad man ; He claims to use his mind but lives in self-delusion ."
Please stop ! I think that is not polite at all . (I replied)
A man should be call wath he truly is my friend ; and I think that guy is a fool . But with the way you spoke I'm afraid he has succeeded in deceiving you .
So if you chose to speak this way how do one defines you yourself ?
I am a freethinker .
But he claimed to be the same as yourself (I replied)
What do you mean by that .
He also walks after the dictates of his own heart like yourself . (I replied)
No he is a philosopher ,I am not .
But you are the same. (I claimed )
Stop insulting me please I said we are different ,do you understand .
Ehm ... I am sorry for speaking rashly (She apologized)
(Then I took cognizance that I was actually speaking with a woman this time .)
THE WOMAN : Hmm . So where are you heading to ?
ME: I am on my way to Eden ( I said shamefully )
THE WOMAN: on your way to Eden ? In this twenty first century ? Is it the same Eden I read about in some strange man made scriptures or some other place called Eden in this modern time ?
ME: Hmm .... Y, yy,yy yes ! that one ( i stammered with a shamed face )
THE WOMAN: Ah ! You mean the Eden where Adam was claimed to have come from ?
ME: Ye, yyes ! That one (I replied with my gaze on the ground )
Hahahaha (she laughed ) Ah ! Religion has finished this one ooooooo (she exclaimed) Poor soul (she cried and and dropped a sigh )
THE WOMAN : So, Mr Eden-goer What are you going there to do in Eden ?
ME: Ehm . I'm going there to meet God .
THE WOMAN: God ? Which God ? What is it that you want from this so-called God that man can't do for you or you can't do for yourself ?
ME: Ehm ehm ehm ( I struggled for words ) (This lady would mock the hell out of me if i should tell her the truth . Would she understand if I tell her what it is ?) (I thought )
(Maybe you should tell her , you shouldn't judge a book merely by its cover ,what if she's got the cure to your problem ) ( another though suggested )
or am I too harsh on you mister ? (she asked ,and awoke me from my thoughts )
ME: Ehm ,actually ,actually ................
THE WOMAN: Actually what ? Or you don't know where you are even going to ? You must be a confused fellow
ME: No ! I am not confused ,And know where I am going to . I am going to ask God to give me drink from the river of life and to give me food from the tree of life . ( I yelled out in anger having felt insulted by this unmannered lady )
THE WOMAN: You see ! I know which button to press to make you speak out ,and now I knew that idiot has deceived you indeed or you ended up deceiving each other .
(Then I knew she intentionally spoke the way she did just to force me speak out the hidden thoughts of my mind . but now it's to late to be ashame. I'm gonna give it to her raw has it is without without minding the consequences) (I THOUGHT)
What is wrong with what I have said for God sake ? (I asked the lady )
THE WOMAN: Everything ! Everything is totally wrong with what you've said for the sake of not using your brain . Can't you get water to drink from these rivers by the road side ? Are these not fruit to eat from (she said pointing to the trees on the way side ) You want to go meet your sky daddy . I wonder how you will get to this your delusional Eden talk less of meeting one fake God that is a product of human imaginations .
ME: those trees don't have any fruit that can deal with my hunger ,neither can the waters from these rivers quench my thirst .
THE WOMAN: How come ? Are you different from others who have drank from those rivers and are satisfied ? Or are you more human than those who ate from the fruits of these trees ? You are just a self- righteous fellow . (She accused me )
ME: No not at all . it's just that there is an unexplainable hunger ,and thirst withing my spirit ,that I can't explain .
THE WOMAN: Your spirit ? Man has no spirit . MAN is COMPLETELY made off flesh ,so only you know what spirit you are talking about .
ME: You see ! I knew beforehand that you wouldn't understand what I'm going through; I perceived from the very beginning that you're not spiritual ,but whoever is spiritual discerns all things .
THE WOMAN: Nothing like Spirituality my friend ! You are simply an uneducated slowpoke . just take off your mind from these spiritual things and you would be fine .
ME: is taking off my mind the same as taking off reality ?
THE WOMAN: Yeah I love the word "reality " Reality are things that are real not some man made spiritual stuff having no visible evidences .
ME: What do you mean by man made ? Are these notions of yours not man made ? Or were they from God ? And by what criterion did you arrived at what definition reality should assumed ?
THE WOMAN: My claims are man made but self -checked ,and freely accepted. But yours are man -made ,demands for faith ,and are forcefully accepted. they ain't even real because you can't prove them . You can't !
ME: What do you want me to prove ?
THE WOMAN: prove that man was created by God and let's see !
ME: What proves do you still need ?
THE WOMAN: What prove have you given ?
ME: from where did man got all the knowledge he has ? Who taught man to live and behaves differently from the animals ? Why is man's system of thinking different from all other species ? . Why is it that even though man is the most intelligent VISIBLE being on earth yet he is limited in all things and depends on others to live comfortable ? If he is the God of himself why didn't he modify himself into a more sophisticated being.
THE WOMAN: Everything you've said are claims my foolish friend . You are yet to give me one single proof that man was created by a God .
ME: Okay if man was not created by God who created him then ?
THE WOMAN Have you not been to school before ? Haven't they taught you on the the bing bang or on the subject of evolution ?
ME: That is also a mere claim and no evident for that .
THE WOMAN: But that is science ,and science has been able to provide proofs for many of its claims .
ME: is that science ? that is human philosophy ,and human opinion .
No it is science (she argued)
what is the meaning of the word "SCIENCES ?" (I asked )
well it means "KNOWLEDGE " (She replied)
ME: so if what you've said is science Then what I said earlier is also science which means knowledge . The difference is : One is human knowledge ,and the other is divine knowledge.
THE WOMAN: but through that so-called human knowledge Many inventions has been made ,and many lives have been changed if you don't know , But what has your divine knowledge done for humanity ?
ME: Through the divine knowledge of God all things that pertain to life and godliness has been given .(I replied)
Pertain to live and godliness !
What things is it that pertains to life and godliness ? (She asked )
ME: Well I would say you should guess what it could be ?
THE WOMAN: Money ,car houses ,children ,great family inheritance ,fame ,a spouse .
Are those What you think pertains to life and godliness ? ( I ASKED )
THE WOMAN: What is this life that you are talking about that I do not have already ? I am alive already as you can see What I don't have is your so called godliness
so you agree that you are not godly? (I ASKED HER )
yes I do ! Yes I am not godly (SHE AFFIRMED )
So if you are not godly what do you think you are ? (I ASKED )
THE WOMAN: I am humane
You are Humane ? How do you define being humane ? (I ASKED )
THE WOMAN : What do you mean ? What are you trying to say ?
ME: What is your definition of being humane ?
THE WOMAN: Caring ,and showing concern for other of course .
ME: how would you define caring for others ?
THE WOMAN : Are you saying you don't know what caring for others means ?
ME: I know for myself but your own definition might differ from mine ?
THE WOMAN: Why do you say so ?
ME: if we differ in believes I think it is possible that we differ in thoughts .
THE WOMAN: Well it's Just me and you .
ME: No it's you and a lot of people apart from Myself . (I argued )
THE WOMAN: Meaning ?
ME: Many people would disagree with whatever anyone would say no natter what it is or who says it ,even though it might be the truth .
THE WOMAN: So who judges us , who Is it that would moderate on all things .
ME: God ! God is the judge . Humans differs and argue because they understand how limited a human mind can be so they find it hard to maintain a truth without looking for a superior truth . But with God lies the truth of all truth .
THE WOMAN: What is this truth of all truth ? What do you mean by that ?
ME: Divine knowledge ! Divine knowledge is the knowledge that is Superior to all other kinds of knowledge .
Divine knowledge ? What exactly is this divine knowledge ? (SHE ASKED )
ME: It is knowing God and acknowledging him .
THE WOMAN : Why should I know God ?
ME: Why should a child knows it father ?
THE WOMAN: Why shoud a child not know its father ?
ME: Why should man not know God ?
THE WOMAN: Why should man know God ?
ME: Why should a man not know is origin ?
THE WOMAN: What is the origin of man ?
ME: He was created by a supreme ,and spiritual being called God .
THE WOMAN: How do you know that ?
ME: It is divine knowledge ,and that is why you also should have it
Divine knowledge ! Hmm . I think I would turn and stop this journey (SHE SAID )
Stop to go where ? (I ASKED )
( She turned and went away sorrowing ) And said "I want to go find out the truth about this divine knowledge you've talked about And as she went I saw written on her back the word "ATHEIST ."
I knew it ! I knew she must be an atheist (I said to myself and Continued with my journey )
This was shared from my story https://www.nairaland.com/7089772/testimony-freed-man-two-kingdoms How do you know u were created by a god? |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:10pm On Mar 29, 2025 |
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Politics › Re: Office Of The First Lady Reacts To Video Of Nursing Students by jaephoenix(m): 10:09pm On Mar 29, 2025 |
TimeManager: God bless Mrs Oluremi Tinubu, the Mother of the nation.
-Kiss the truth! She may be your mother. Mine is alive and well, and I don't intend to swap her for your biatch anytime soon. Thank you |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:07pm On Mar 29, 2025 |
CoronaVirusPro: Divine revelation And you alone got this revelation, and no one else ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:06pm On Mar 29, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: All right then. In the beginning God blessed the union of Adam and Eve, their purpose is to feel the earth with human families. Genesis 1:28 The blessing is there just as animals also got the same blessing. Genesis 1:22 After the fall of man the blessing was cut short {Romans 3:23} so it's not everyone that could have children due to the curse that comes along with Adamic sin. Yet some just get pregnant like pigs and bears children even though they don't need it. That's why Christ Jesus never prayed for anyone seeking child birth because this is not the time to ask for such things from God rather what faithful people are concerned about now is salvation so that when they get to God's Kingdom all their hearts desires will be granted! Matthew 6:33 There is no guarantee that children born in this system will become responsible adults neither is there guarantee that they will grow old. So a true Christian is focused on getting into God's Kingdom no matter what we have now is temporary {1Timothy 6:7} since none is sure to follow us into God's Kingdom but in God's kingdom whatever we have will be permanent. Isaiah 65:21-23 That is the real life {1Timothy 6:19} this one is filled with troubles! Matthew 6:34 Stuff this bullshit in your assss. You're not contributing to the topic nor answering the question |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:05pm On Mar 29, 2025 |
2special: He's a sovereign God...he doesn't as please... So he does stuff at his whims and caprices? Ok. So why then do we pray? |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:04pm On Mar 29, 2025 |
CoronaVirusPro: God is controlling the population of Earth and randomly allowing babies.
If every woman could have children, Earth will be over populated and critical infrastructures will collapse. How do you know this? |
Christianity Etc › Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:03pm On Mar 29, 2025 |
Thankgod89: If people say "God gives babies," then it raises the question of why some struggle with infertility while others, even those who may not seem prepared for parenthood, conceive easily. Since God is not partial, how do we explain this? Because there's no god, he doesn't exist, thus no one gives babies |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Atheists And Their Atheism: Part 1 by jaephoenix(m): 10:02pm On Mar 29, 2025 |
Speaklove: They knew but nevertheless they still do what they wanted because man is instinctively or inherently evil . But some of their good actions were carried out despite the marks of unworthiness that was on the beneficiary because they believe God will reward them in the after life even if man would be ungrateful .
What do you think could motivate you as an atheist to do good to your enemy who apparently seek your hurt even your death ?
These people you talk about could learn on the sacrificial lifestyle and death of Jesus to bless their enemies . That's why atheists are potentially better people than theists. An atheist is benevolent out of the goodness of his/her heart, not because he or she is expecting an eternal gratification for the act. I do many philanthropic actions myself, both in my work and outside it |