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MaxInDHouse:
YES!
That's why everything his disciples practiced in the first century returned after that year so if you become agitated over that no one cares i'm not responsible for your turn around against your religion my job is to tell you what is happening around you even though you don't want to see it!

Ok. Where was his picture of his return

StillDtruth:
See how you prove that atheists are liars for if there was a fallacy you and others would have raised it. But because you had nothing true to counter, you had to resort to Lies and Fallacy of change of post and off point in pretense of forgetting that the topic is proof of God and not "how did God come to be" which is a very big fallacy.

So, it is you who in desperation has resorted to Lies and commits fallacies because you have no valid argument to make.

I don't even know how to interface u. U did not say what fallacy I committed. And u still did not answer my question. U intentionally glossed over it to dodge the question.
So please Mr. Liar, How did your god pop up? Who created him?

Kingsempires:
ok that's your believe

If u believe otherwise, lemme know and bring evidence

Kingsempires:
So atheist on this thread,if you people don't believe there is God.so how is you're believe from how the world came to existed

Short answer, I don't know.
I would rather say that than say a god popped up out of thin air and created the whole world from thin air.
Also centuries ago, religious folks believe lightning, floods, plants etc were made by gods. But no we know how they are made(even though some folks still believe they are made by their favorite gods, like Dtruthspeaker)
That is how the god of the gap argument came in. Inserting god into any knowledge gap we have

PulsingPurple:
Trick question...

Only that you guys aren't always willing to accept the answer.

So whats the answer

StillDtruth:
In an engine bay there are spaces but to ants on the engine they are gaps.

Meanwhile to the creator of the car it is just a space.

Meanwhile you forget that so far, no thing creates itself, so the only gap is that which you refuse to see

So if nothing creates itself how did ur god pop up? Have you heard of fallacy of special pleading? I thought u claimed u r a lawyer but u commit all sorts of fallacies here. Every sentence from ur mouth is fallacious. Na wao

Busybrain2233:
He probably haven't heard that b4

Ignorance is truly costly

StillDtruth:
Exactly like saying jollof rice would not be made if they did not have pots.

So you have no point which is why you have begun doing the fallacy of ad hominem because you know your argument is groundl none and have been falling since, unable to recover.

If they wanted to.make babies they would just have their usual.sex and there won't be any barren parents or evn parents having to give ouy their hard earned monies to pastors, beggers, doctors, herbalists to buy babies and children.

So how are babies made?

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible was spiritually preserved when John penned down this words:

“I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll. “The one who bears witness of these things says, ‘Yes, I am coming quickly.’” “Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.” Revelations 22:18-20

So even if the books were left in paths till Jesus returned in the year 1914 he will use the Holy Spirit to direct them on how to arrange it for readers {John 16:12-13} just as he used the Holy Spirit to guide them in what Christians supposed to be doing as our assigned duty.

So Russell and his team were just researchers trying to figure out what was wrong with Christianity when Jesus returned and chose their group and began directing them on how to restructure Christianity! Matthew 24:45

Did Jesus return in 1914?
Are you guys this delusional?

Ken4Christ:
He never existed yet your birthday is with reference to him. Use your brain. Jesus is the centre of history. Whether it BC and AD or BCE and CE dating calendar, it all revolves around Jesus. And you can't escape Jesus. You either receive him as your Lord and Saviour or meet him as your judge. Your eyes will clear.

BCE doesn't revolve around your Yahweh. It means Before Common Era. Ur education na waste

Ken4Christ:
Science is limited in knowledge. With all technology, they can't find heaven. They can't see demons. But we know that they exist.

How can they find something that doesn't exist? U well so?

StillDtruth:
See, the bold has proven that they are not able to for.when they wanted to make jollof rice, soap, mannequins of cars they made them everytime.

And there was nothing that was out of their jurisdiction, hands and power.

So, there wouldn't be any barren parent if they could make children.

So if they had not had sex, would that baby be made?
U see why I say u should stay out of scientific or logical discourses

akusucymon:
but I think the standard practice is to get the blood tested by the hospital lab (irrespective of where the blood is coming from or if it has been tested or not) before handing it over to the surgical team.

Blood products are always issued by a central lab. And even when they arrive at their destinations, they are re-screened ans matched with patient blood
There is always a margin of error anywhere

PSmurf:
Simple procedure botched by doctors who probably sorted their way through medical school. They were transfusing blood they hadn't pre-tested and confirmed to match a patient they were probably going to charge millions? God save us from licensed quacks.

People still react to well tested blood. What have u got to say

doggedfighter:
Rubbish !

Serious rubbish. Then way Nigerians reason is crazy. No wonder we are in this state

Creamypie:
Bible teach us not to take blood, and even pour it into the ground, when we slaughter animal and to abstain from un -bled meat.

Are you aware blood transfusion has saved folks and still saving folks everyday?
Even if this was a transfusion reaction, its no criteria to stop transfusions

MaxInDHouse:
Look around you now.

Has there ever been a religious group:
Where none of their m members is carrying weapons because their founder objects to such? Matthew 26:52

Preaching and teaching zealously from house to house and door to door? Matthew 10:12-13; Luke 10:5

That love their members just as their founder loves them? John 13:34-35

YES! Christianity has reappeared because Jesus returned in the year 1914 just as he said that by the time he returns there will not be found the faith he established back in the first century! Luke 18:8

So a religion disappears and responses. Whoa.
So where did russell get his Bible from

StillDtruth:
Everything is a belief system if we go by your thinking as proven by Obi dients believing that Tinubu is not the president.

Secondly, do creations know everything about their maker? Do you expect your A.I mannequin to know everything about you?

Many AI/robots know they are made. In fact, if you ask them they'll tell you

StillDtruth:
Fallacy/Objection:
You have changed Post. The issue you raised was "Who created god?" Not Universe.

Do you know what an analogy is?

StillDtruth:
If parents could make babies there would be nothing like barreness.

Parents can make babies by having sex. They start the actual motion when the man ejaculates inside and release semen. Whatever happens then is outside their jurisdiction.
Now ejaculation doesn't always mean fertilization. A lot of things can go wrong, from azospermia, oligospermia etc. Also the woman may not be ovulating or her tubes are blocked. These factors contribute to infertility. But if these factors are together, fertilization occurs and a baby happens.
So yes, the baby was made by the parents, not any god

StillDtruth:
Simple!

I subsribed to God being my Ruler, Governmemt, Father.and all so i have a right to direct my prayers to Him.

Please look at my question and try again. You went off point, as usual

Steep:
The evidence proves that there is an immaterial spaceless and timesless being the created the universe. Evidence proves the universe (matter and space-time) had a beginning. Meaning whatever caused the universe into being is immaterial, spaceless and timeless, this is the basic definition of God.
It is an illogical belief to assume the universe is eternal and also illogical to belief that the universe was created by nothing.

Have you heard of the god of the gap phenomenon?

Steep:
you questions were answered.
For you ask if God was created is because you placing God in the category of created things in which case contradicting the definition of what God is.
As for prove, scientists work by evidence, you only have proofs in Mathematics.

Can you prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist?

Kingsempires:
this is where it get confusing because no one can give you clear answer of if God exist.like i said is only the one that have faith believe that there is God

Exactly. But your fellow christians make it seem as if the evidence if everywhere and atheists are mad for doubting

MaxInDHouse:
Have you seen it happening here?
If it's not happening here you can't accuse JWs here of what isn't happening here!

So u have to see it happening in Nigeria before u believe?
So did you see priests molesting kids in Nigeria before you believe that any priest molested a child?

MaxInDHouse:
Calm your nerves and learn!

Constantine hijacked the group that apostates formed by the time Constantine walked the earth Christianity has disappeared completely!

Oh really. So has it reappeared?

StillDtruth:
You are talking nonsense. All the bad shit happening are happenning because when God was ruling and it was good, you people told God to go away and leave you alone; that you can rule yourselves.

And God finally answered that prayer.

So, now it is bad you are now looking for Him.

So why do u pray?

StillDtruth:
Simple common sense and natural observation. 😆😆😆

You and i and our parents did not make ourselves nor can any human make themselves exactly how our mannequins did not make themselves and could not make themselves.

So it wasn't your parents that made u?

MaxInDHouse:
As you're a Muslim i'm just laughing over your case because there has never been a time when worshipers of God don't have sinners in their midst but one thing makes them unique:

They are fulfilling what God promised!

So i have all the evidences that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are fulfilling what God promised in this time of the end despite having sinners in their midst {Matthew 9:13} and what they've achieved Islam can never ever achieve a quarter in a million years from now.

Are you willing to know their achievements?

I was in Islam when i began noticing the fine WORKS of God's organization despite the fact that their members are imperfect humans!

But u said they were all lies

DoWhatThouWilt:
Definitely not one that habors pedophiles and child abusers.

He'll say they are all lies

Sapasenator:
We share a lot in common. I have a deeply religious background and after a deep introspection, I realized nothing in the Bible and religion makes any sense. I won't call myself an atheist at this time just that organized religion is dead for me. I have witnessed EVIL and the supernatural growing and I cannot deny the existence of evil.

If evil exists, there must be a greater good out there somewhere and I am still making my findings. At some point, I even prayed for and received what I would term " miracles". I will attend a church in the future to socialize but I will never go near any Pentecostal church.

How did you witness evil

Steep:
all current evidences show that the universe had a beginning so the universe can not be said to have had an inifinity past.
God did not pop out of nothing, he is ever present from all eternity to eternity.
There is nothing like a being higher than God, just like saying asking if there is a square circle.

The very definition of God denotes finality, there is nothing greater than him neither can be, he is the cause of all there is while he himself has no cause.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

At least there is evidwnceof a universe. Where is evidence of this god?