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Kingsempires:
This world is so mysterious that you can understand it.(1)if you go through the bible you will see that all human came for one man and woman.the age of the world through the bible is about 6000 years.but according to scientist the world is about 4.5 billion years,they will even shall you evidence of human evolution.like if you are a scientist when you are studying more,you will be seeing things that will make you to say God don't exist.as from me i believe that God exist,you can't use your physical sense to check if God exist.it is not by force that God will show his self to me.blessed are those who did not see but believe.don't use the nature of the earth and thick that God is just a folk tale.the is no proof that the is God but there are evidence that the is God.your are looking for proof not evidence,90% of things in the world can not give you prove but evidence.can't you see how people perform miracles and magics,that is the evidence that the is God and the is satan.don't just give up your faith

There is no evidence supernatural thus those magics/miracles are fake. thus no god

Steep:
except that evidences do not agree with you.
Earlier scientist had thought the universe was eternal and proposed different theories that support the eternality of the universe until their hopes were shattered recently by the hubbles telescope they found that the universe is expanding and also discovered the cosmic micro wave background.

The universe cannot be eternal because the universe would have experienced heat death in eternity past and we would not have existed.

Guess what you believe there is something called eternity which no one can explain, science can't explain it.

As studies are getting advanced they are starting to see that the universe is more complex than they had thought.

Lets assume the scientists were wrong here(though they arent), how does this post suggest god exists and most importantly your own favorite brand of god exists? Remember there are thousands of gods

Steep:
when did I say everything must be created?

You made this comment

The evidences of God are all around us. There is no creation without a creator , no morality without a moral law giver.
If God does not exist then we are just mindless atoms vibrating and moving randomly.
Without God there would be no creation.
Without God no morality, morality becomes mere opinions and the strong and mighty wins.
Secularism and humanism are failing badly because God can never be eliminated. What happens is that people just replaced God with a false god either Government, society, family, themselves, career, sports etc

MaxInDHouse:
Who is Constantine?
Is he a disciple of Christ?

You people don't reason, instead of verifying what disciples of Christ supposed to be doing as their assigned duty you just feel whenever anyone claims CHRISTIAN it's to be taken.

For your information a Christian is one of the disciples of the Jewish man called Jesus of Nazareth who claims to be the Christ.

So whoever is not following the footsteps of Christ's disciples is not one of the CHRISTIANS!

Actually Constantine made modern christianity and your group emanated from modern Christiendom. So yes u guys were made from Constantine, whoever he was

StillDtruth:
Fallacy/Objection!

Presumptive Question.
Must He be created?

Fallacy/Objection!

Presumptive Question.
Must the universe be created?

Busybrain2233:
I can as well say the universe was not created.🤷

Exactly
And man was not created too

Ken4Christ:
I live in the supernatural because Jesus lives in me. Let him into your life and you will understand what I am saying. He gives your life a meaning. Christ in me makes me supernatural.

Try and see a shrink soon

Ken4Christ:
I won't die. I will only sleep in the Lord.

Ok, Delulu

Ken4Christ:
Revelation knowledge is superior to science. Science cannot explain how the world began. Science cannot explain how a man blind from birth can regain his sight. Science cannot explain why people die. And they can't stop the process of death. Science doesn't even know what the future holds. But answer to all of these is in the word of God

Science can explain how people die. Yes it doesn't know a lot of things but instead of saying it doesn't know, it doesn't accept silly, fictional stories in place

Steep:
God is not a creation.

But you just said everything must be created

FRANCISTOWN:
Then who created God?

Exactly

Steep:
The evidences of God are all around us. There is no creation without a creator, no morality without a moral law giver.
If God does not exist then we are just mindless atoms vibrating and moving randomly.
Without God there would be no creation.
Without God no morality, morality becomes mere opinions and the strong and mighty wins.
Secularism and humanism are failing badly because God can never be eliminated. What happens is that people just replaced God with a false god either Government, society, family, themselves, career, sports etc

Who created god?

MaxInDHouse:
So how come his first century Jewish disciples never had such POWER and AUTHORITY?

Were they not his first fruit baptized with the Holy Spirit?

Did Constantine tell you he has disciples?

Ken4Christ:
The scripture says so.

Lol. Why do you believe the scripture? Do you know who wrote it? Are you aware it is self contradictory? Are you also aware it goes against science and logic?

MaxInDHouse:
Questions should be asked based on the topic and comment of the poster it's pointless asking questions outside the poster's comment.

You are a living soul there is nothing outside you called "soul" therefore at death your soul dies.

What confused misinformed churchgoers is Jesus' comment @ Matthew 10:28 that says:

"And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Ge·henʹna"

The soul in this context doesn't mean something outside you but your character in person. For instance those who know you call you by name when they see you as in your body but your real identity is not that body rather the character you have always been so if you appear somewhere and refuse to act in line with what they know many will either question your sanity or feel it's a resemblance it will be as if they're seeing someone else in your body.

So what Jesus meant is that both the body they knew and your real person (identify) will perish if God wants to destroy you that is what nobody not even Satan can do all what they can do is harm and destroy your body which they can see wherever God has the power to give you another perfect human body that will shock those that think they have finished you!

Wtf are you talking about? Does this drivel make sense?

Kingsempires:
Do the maths. So you don't believe there is God but there are mysterious things that proves that God exit

What mysterious things

Michael547:
Where does the spirit of those who are not saved go to?
What does the soul of those who are saved go to?

What is a soul? How do you know it exists? I’m surprised u didn't ask, considering your disposition

Ken4Christ:
The souls of those who are not saved goes to hell.

But the spirit of those who are saved goes to heaven.

How do you know?

StillDtruth:
See how madly you have deluded.yourself.

https://www.nairaland.com/6268983/beg-anambra-enugu-men-marry#96259411

Did you read my post at all, this schizophrenic

StillDtruth:
See how stupidly Mad you sound. Isreal is Real and we see women are not geting married as prophcied yet, you used a unreal thing to oppose the real thing?

And you think you are sane?

No, you are not. You have gone Mad.

How does unmarried women translate to bible being real? There are more women than men and the issue of unmarried women has been around since centuries ago

EreluRoz:
Remember Obasanjo didn't meet the mess Tinubu met on ground

Its either u r paid or too blind to see. Who told you obasanjo didn’t meet a mess? Which President didn’t meet a mess? Buhari didn’t meet a mess? As far as u r a president u would meet a mess by the previous president. This excuse is useless. He should have known there are messes before contesting. If the mess is too much let him resign

Motiseans:
Guys I think I am going crazy or it must me some psychosis I hear two women’s voice in my head trying to oppressing me I feel like I have no privacy and that voice tells other crazy people like me my shit this stuff is crazy and it’s going out of hand I need help of knowing what it is and how to solve it.

Third person auditory hallucinations is a symptom of schizophrenia. Good prognosis here is you have insight. But you need a mental state exam

jesusjnr2020:
The Only Unsinkable Ship In Life

It's not the Titanic but JESUS.

JESUS is the only ship in this life that can never sink no matter the storm.

A serious storm is coming that would sweep away anyone that's not inside His ship just as it was in the days of Noah. Matthew 24:37-39

Hence why you need to get into His ship before the door gets shut.

It will be the wisest decision you ever made in your entire life.

God bless.

His people are dying of hunger in Nigeria while many atheists are enjoying

StillDtruth:
I think you guys keep equate your personal not-acceptance/dislike for a fact with evidence and logic.

Logic and evidence lives beyond peoples desires, wishes and personal preference.

So you committed those infractions because you allowed your personal position override your prove of your argument by law and logic

And you are already holding christians to that standard so it is duly applied to every one who debates here.

Can you explain how she did that

soundofcalm:
Real atheists ask more reasonable questions even on their worst day.
You're not an Atheist. You're an 1d!otic wannabe skeptic.
In life, try to be good at whatever you're doing... or at least, pretend to be good at it. You're disgust!ngly bad at what you're doing.

I think I'm done with this cretard. Next time don't open a thread, spewing trash when u have no point. Good day

soundofcalm:
!lliterate. Go read the full article. It was never about my life. It was about LIFE as a whole. There's a meaning in life right from the moment life started. Each one of us reappropriates this meaning to his own taste because of the divergence in life experience.
I gave an example with the appreciation of the sweetness of a sugarcane.
You're really so dvmb to make me repeat myself. It shows you simply didn't grasp my reasoning. Admit I'm so metaphysical for you so I can dilute the course to your level. Æpe.

Now ask me when my God put meaning in life as a whole.

So sugarcane taste is the same as life purpose? So who tastes your own life to determine the taste?

soundofcalm:
Æpe.
Are we talking about the non-existence of God or the authenticity of my religion?
What's atheism about? The affirmation of the non-existence of God or is it that of Religion?

If I sound too good and you want to join my religion, I worship at "Ocean of Sperms Shrine".

So when did this your god give your life a meaning?

MaxInDHouse:
Jeaphoenix is an atheist to the core he's just here following me as usual because i've proved his atheism worthless many times!

Idiot, I'm not following you. I'm posting on religious section and you happen to be infesting it. Don't give yourself too much importance

MaxInDHouse:
First of all it's Elijah and not Elisha Sir {1Kings 18:21} secondly the Israelites already had the commandments never to worship any other god in that region {Exodus 20:1-3} thirdly their God has given all foreign gods (demons) in that region a farewell package to leave all that territory for Him alone {Leviticus 16:10-28} and lastly Elijah knew very well that those demons though has powers to do exactly what he demanded but in the presence of the true God who is occupying all that territory no demon will stand to support false worship. Exodus 8:1-19

But in this case that territory belongs to that demon and it's worshipers haven't disengaged the demon as they still offer sacrifices to it in that territory showing they're still loyal so anyone going there to challenge that demon is doing so at his or her own perils.

Please reread my question and answer it

JessicaRabbit:
I had to read the conversations back and forth between the both of us to understand your post here and I find it very interesting that you can casually accuse me of "moving from topic to topic" and "shifting the post". It's a clever case of projection from you, considering the fact that our correspondence has been a masterclass in evasion from your own side. I've been consistently addressing the topic, while you've been expertly dodging and weaving around the uncomfortable facts I've presented. Regarding the contradictions and inaccuracies in the Bible, I'd say it's quite relevant to the debate actually, considering your entire worldview is built upon the assumption that this book is infallible. It's not a complaint, but a critical examination of the very foundation of your beliefs, so you really have no point there. Just because I didn't buy MightySparrow's "Moses knew the story of creation because... magic" explanation or suggestion doesn't mean I'm dodging the topic. I'm simply saying that if anyone wants to rely on evidence, logic, and reason (as you claimed), then let's apply those standards to his/her own claims.

Nostradamus' prophecies, just like the Bible's, are open to interpretation and have been cherry-picked to fit various narratives. And, as I mentioned earlier, the Bible's contradictions and inaccuracies are glossed over, while atheists are expected to provide exhaustive explanations for every. single. detail.

Perhaps you need to understand that evidence, logic, and reason don't just magically appear when it's convenient. They require consistent application, not selective interpretation. So, let's either have a genuine discussion or agree to disagree -- but please, spare me the "you're dodging the topic" rhetoric when I'm simply holding your claims to the same standards you claim to uphold.

Babe where have you been? Missed you. You have been schooling these dvllards for too long. Even our second most crazy resident madman DTruthSpeaker becomes civil while discoursing with you

MightySparrow:
I am living proof. He created me what about you?

No he didn't. Your parents did. Theists are just waste of science

soundofcalm:
Cool. Now you want to reason.
I asked a question in the writeup "Can sugarcane existe without its sweetness?". Impossible. But the sweetness of one single stick of sugarcane will have a relative appreciation by many people who taste it. And it's no sin that we all differ in this appreciation of taste. It's normal. It depends on our individual nature.
It's same with the sense in life. There's a sense in life. But our individual experiences make us have different opinions about it. The moment you claim there's no sense in life, the most rational thing to do will be to commit suicide because continuing to live is like living a senseless life.

Now the stupidity in atheism is that they all know that there's a meaning in life. Actually it's beyond the realms of knowledge. All living Atheists BELIEVE there's a meaning/sense in life. There's no belief without faith. But they refuse that this sense in life was put there by someone. They claim each individual put his own sense in life. No my dear !diot. Just like the taste in sugarcane, it isn't the individual who put the sense in life. The sense has always been there. You just perceived it differently because you're different from others.

Now if this sense has always been there, who put it there? Answer this question. Don't blab around.

PS. Don't mention pastors or Christianity when you discuss with me. I'm discussing God. I never presented myself as an adherant to any religion.

Secondly, more than half of those icons you mentioned are not atheists. You're very stvpid to mention Leonardo Da Vinci and Albert Einstein. Those people have a religious inclination.
That someone criticizes Christianity doesn't mean they're atheist. Atheism is the refutation of God's existence, not the refutation of a certain religion.

I.diot, someone asked you your religion and you have been dodging it.
Also Da Vinci and Einstein do not believe in Yahweh.