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Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:21am On Jul 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
NO! What i'm saying is that not all Christians are Jehovah's Witnesses.
The true God has always have Witnesses in all generations these people will stand out due to their love for God {Deuteronomy 6:4} and His laws {Psalms 119:29} so when Adam lived the Witness of Jehovah among his children who stood firm for uprightness is Abel {Hebrews 11:4} and during the time of Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Joshua, Samson, Gideon, Deborah, Samuel, David, Solomon, Josiah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Nehemiah, Ezra, Zechariah, Hezekiah, Amos, Malachi and John the baptist all these faithful people are Jehovah's Witnesses.
But when Jesus came to connect honest hearted and sincere individuals throughout the world and teach them the way of Jehovah {Isaiah 35:8} he formed a group known back then as Christians so this people continue to listen and learn from him but only those who have the same type of receptive hearts like Jehovah's Witnesses of old will respond POSITIVELY not all those following him! John 6:66
So what do you call non-JW? Looks like you have a certain disdain about them
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:20am On Jul 11, 2024
Michael547:
Lol....oga are you saying that the write up is wrong for saying that there are no transitional fossil links available to scientists today?
Its wikipedia, its open sourced and sometimes composed by non technical folks
Look at the data I gave you and stop lolling
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 11:48pm On Jul 10, 2024
Ochoiho:
Let me give you a little life testimony. You may believe me or choose to think that I'm lying to promote a religion. That's up to you.
My wife was a sickler (not SS)
She was in and out of Hospital till her teenage age of around 12. This was around 1998

She got so sick that yr and admitted in the Hospital
Doctor said it's shortage of blood. While
making efforts to get blood for transfusion, she die. He doctor checked her pulse, nothing responding.
Their Pastor was called for.prayers. He came with some members of the church. Mom and other siblings were already crying their eyes out.
My wife., on the other hand, said she saw herself appear in front of a Gate, so massive beyond any she has seen any where in life. The walls was like up to ,'heaven'
Her comment while standing there was, ' I'm tired. Let the gate be opened so I can enter
She said a man in white appeared and was just looking at her while she repeatedly make the above statement. After long silence from the man, she changed her request by saying ' if you can't open the gate for me to enter,then heal me completely so that I don't get sick again. The man said' so shall it be.
She woke up seeing people all around her praying. Since that day till date she has never been sick more that 2 days. Mostly malaria due to mosquito bite.
There is life after death and Jesus is the only way to heaven.
Your believe doesn't change anything, you'll soon face it.
1. SS is a sickler(which is a layman term). I guess you mean your wife is either an SC Is AS.
2.Lack of pulse alone doesn't suggest death. There are other signs involved
3. Lets assume your story is true. Are you aware there are thousands of stories like your wife's where folks claim to die and resurrect after meeting their favorite gods, angels etc like Allah, Buddha, etc. Are you saying there's gods are true? If you do, then you are insinuating your god isn't the only true god. And that there are many afterlives depending on which god you believe
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 11:42pm On Jul 10, 2024
Ken4Christ:
But some believe that the dead are not conscious. There are Pastors such as those in Jehovah's Witnesse organisation and the likes.
So according to you, JW are not christians?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m):
Michael547:
Explain the write up in the screenshot below
There are transitional fossils. They are fossils that show features of both the previous and latest version of an organism. For example, humans were using appendices, but during evolution we had no use for it.
The point I'm trying to make is evolution happens over millions of years with tiny changes, you can't say a particular fossil is the transition
Maybe you can check this up

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7382982970442927406/
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 10:54pm On Jul 10, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
People going to the hospitals for treatment do die there because they aren't responding POSITIVELY to treatment likewise some failed because they are not responding POSITIVELY to their Bible study yet if someone should ask you where to take a sick person you will still insist that the patient be taken to a hospital.

Do you understand now? smiley
So you are saying not everyone that receives the 'word' is a Christian?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:45pm On Jul 10, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
It depends on the motive after all the world's most wonderful counselor of all time is Jesus of Nazareth yet one of his closest companions committed suicide.
So it largely depends on the heart condition of recipients of God's word!
So if those that study the word can commit suicide, what is your point?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:44pm On Jul 10, 2024
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:32pm On Jul 10, 2024
Michael547:
Lol....so you mean that humans evolved directly from fossils we can find today without any transitional fossil links?
There are transitional fossils.
Do you bother going through my posts or are you more interested in asking questions?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:28pm On Jul 10, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
People committing suicide have come to a hard and most difficult conclusion any living creature could think of so it's not their fault.

But then if such ones has taken in good food spiritually speaking suicide wouldn't have been their last choice in life.

What do i mean by good spiritual food?

Try to visualize a time when you will sit down with people like Abel (Adam's second son) Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Job, Moses, Joshua, Samson, Gideon, Deborah, Ruth, Samuel, David, Solomon, Josiah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Nehemiah, Ezra, Zechariah, Hezekiah, Amos, Malachi and John the baptist hearing from them how they survived the wicked system they all went through and finally you are right there in their midst also narrating your own experience in your own generation.

Remember that most of them never knew one another by face all they heard was how each of them stood firm in their own time.

And suddenly someone stood up to say:

"i didn't live to see what really happened back then because i chickened out by taking my own life"

Well that is exactly what will happen after this system of things has been wrapped off and resurrection takes place. John 5:28-29

Also note that it's going to be the resurrection of those who served God faithfully and those who don't know God's righteousness but only lived by conscience! Act 24:15

All those who chose to be wicked will not be remembered that day! Psalms 9:17

Now this is where i'm going, Jesus revealed a lot about the things that will take place during the endtime {Matthew 24:3-14} he commanded his disciples to continue teaching these things from generation to generation {Matthew 28:19-20} Jesus said at a time his real teachings will be lost on planet earth {Luke 18:8 compare to Amos 8:11} but in the time of the end a faithful and discreet slave will appear to restore this GOOD NEWS of a bright future {Matthew 24:45} this faithful slave will gather subjects throughout the earth in preparation for the return of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus. These are the ones who will be going from house to house sharing the GOOD NEWS about God's Kingdom in the endtime {Romans 10:13-15} your attitude towards them will determine the type of person you are inside because Jesus and his angels are working with them {Revelations 14:6-7} they have a pen in their hands to write the names of those who attended to them and spend time with them studying the Bible {Malachi 3:16 compare to Ezekiel 9:2,3,10,11} for your information that's how your name will be written in the book of life! Revelations 20:15

So back to those who committed suicide!
Their judgement will be determined by Jesus who is going about now with his angels and human representatives {Act 1:8} if you've not seen nor have any opportunity to discuss with them your suicidal attempt will be taken as one who got fed up with the wicked system of things and you chose not to join them in their evil means of acquiring wealth {Psalms 37:7-11} but if you have noticed them seeing the rich, the average and poor ones all joyfully doing this endtime work i'm afraid of what Jesus may conclude about you! Matthew 10:14-15

So if you find them today and start studying God's word with them in anticipation of knowing what the future holds for obedient mankind let me congratulate you in advance by saying "See you when all these badness are no more in Paradise" Luke 23:43 smiley
So are you saying those that study God's word don't commit suicide?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:27pm On Jul 10, 2024
Ken4Christ:
Not all Pastor are genuinely called. And some of them don't even know the Christ they preach. This is why our Lord Jesus warned us to beware of false prophets. So, using them as an example doesn't hold water.
Yeah. I should have guessed you would commit another fallacy. This time a No True Scotsman.
By the way, we are talking about knowledge. Those pastors KNEW about the sin of suicide.They also knew about the consequences. Whether they were called or rang, is irrelevant
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 3:20pm On Jul 10, 2024
Ken4Christ:
You don't get my point. If you know that committing suicide is not the end of life, that there is a life after death with the possibility of ending up in a burning flame, you will refrain from it.

Most people do it because of ignorance and also because of wrong knowledge they have acquired through the years about what death really means. If you take my admonition as a threat, it also means that you are accusing Jesus of doing the same because he spoke of hell or eternal damnation more than any in the Bible. He even cursed some nations into hell.
Christianity has dulled your brain. Are you aware Christians, even pastors have committed suicide. You think they didn't know suicide is a sin and leads to your hell?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 3:18pm On Jul 10, 2024
Michael547:
Where are the transitions?
Transitions means changes in the morphology of the anatomy and genetics. The changes can be in form of shortening of tail etc
All these are captured in human anthropological studies
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 12:55pm On Jul 10, 2024
Michael547:
So are you saying that humans evolved directly from these fossils or there are still transitional links?
There are transitions. Evolution takes years. Lots of years.
Are you even aware humans have tail bone and as fetuses we actually had tails?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 12:53pm On Jul 10, 2024
Michael547:
So since you don't know, how did you come to the conclusion that nobody came about that word?
I don't understand what you mean
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 12:52pm On Jul 10, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
If you can read posts here then you can do your own reading and research.
Research where
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 1:29am On Jul 10, 2024
Michael547:
I don't know.....so how did the word come about?
Exactly. I don't know how the name sadomasochist came about. And from what I learned, it wasn't a group of people or government. Just like the term food wasn't named by some group of people or the government.
Savvy?!
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Jesus by jaephoenix(m): 1:23am On Jul 10, 2024
Egemeole:
Jesus the Only Son of God came to this world, died at the cross at Calvary and was raised from death on the 3rd day.
Faith in Jesus is the only way to be free from sin, it's guilt and hardness.
Believe on Jesus.
Its a common Latin American name
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:53pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
Lol....so nobody gave them the term...it just appeared from the sky?
So who determines that a masochist is wrong and a soldier is right?
Who gave food the name food? Please you MUST answer this question before we continue. Thank you
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:36pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
How did we evolve from great apes.....where are the fossils that links us to them?
Google H.Erectus, and H.Habilis. I can't be spoonfeeding you.
Besides the fossils found all over the world back it up. Neantherthal fossils have been greatly researched and point to our link to them
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:33pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
Who gave them the term? Is it you or you read it in a governmental law?
Lol....so you mean soldiers who engage in wars and kill people are psychiatric patients?
Masochists love harm. The term is self inherent, just like who gave food its name. I didn't give them the name, neither did the government.
Soldiers engage on wars to protect a country's sovereign and borders. Also they are mandated by their country's law to fight and protect themselves from being harmed by their enemies.
Please answer this question. Are masochists protecting anyone or country?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:16pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
The minority that loves harm.
What law states that the views of the majority is the right view?
The minority that loves harm are termed masochistic and are psychiatric cases. Why should we take them into consideration?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:15pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
But you also said your claims have not been established.....it could also be a lie.
Part of my claims have been established as true. An example is evolution. How we evolved from the unicellular organism to apes is not certain. But we can prove how we evolved from the Great Ape. There are many evidences that back up evolution, from genetics, to anthropology , to anatomy etc
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:08pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
Lol.....so what should happen to the views of the minority?
The minority that wants to harm people or the minority that love harm?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:08pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
Ok....let's leave the research to the scientist then.
Yeah. The problem with creationism like the theists like christians, Muslims etc portray is that it has been found to be lies, and their books have been found to be wanting in several instances. So I can't believe them
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:06pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
I don't love harm.....other humans may love harming people.....why must my own be right and theirs wrong?
Good. So you don't love harm. Since most folks don't like harm, that is the reason we made those laws. Savvy?
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:05pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
Your claim is false....if you answer my questions, I would ask about it again.
Which of my claims is false
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:04pm On Jul 09, 2024
Ken4Christ:
1. The Bible says so. The word of God in the Bible is tried and tested to be true.
2. The resurrection of Jesus proves it.
3. The near death experiences of countless thousands attest to it.
The bible is not a reliable book. I have told you before
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:04pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
How did the first human appear?
The short answer is I don't know.
The long answer is we descended from unicellular organisms. However, scientists are hazy about this. Researches continue as we speak.
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:01pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
Who has the right to tell humans not to harm one another?
Do you love harm? Yes or no? Please answer this question if we must move on
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:00pm On Jul 09, 2024
Ken4Christ:
But you can't state your birthday except with reference to Jesus
Yes I can. The notations we use now is CE (Common Era). So my DoB is 19XX CE. The old AD was added because the old historians were Romans and used Anno Domino. It doesn't denote birth of Christ
Christianity EtcRe: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 6:57pm On Jul 09, 2024
Michael547:
The funny thing is that I'm allowing you to express your knowledge and you are still complaining.
I can express all day but if u keep on asking questions I have previously answered, it gets tiring

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