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Michael547:
Lol......ok....why did you not give me the source of your initial explanations...why now?

The source is fertilization. And I gave it to you way back

Michael547:
Does the fact that I don't love something automatically makes it wrong?

No. The point we are trying to make here is 'Do no harm'. Harm is anything that impacts negatively on another person.

budaatum:
At least he asks questions. Lol.

He could be here telling me to believe a YouTube of a dead person refusing to die, so I do appreciate him, especially if he pays attention to the answers he's making me dig deep for.

Lol. Its a spectrum then. The very gullible who don't ask questions is on one end, and on the other the very inquisitive woke types like Michael. Only that the questions have been answered and some don't make sense

Michael547:
So fertilization is the originator of consciousness?
Who is the originator of fertilization?

It happens when sperm meets egg? Before you ask how the sperm swam to meet the egg, please read up some embryology, or basic biology. Thank you

Michael547:
So who has the right to decide in human society that armed robbery is bad?

Buda asked if you loved being robbed, but you ignored the question and continued asking more inane questions

Michael547:
Who has the right to determine that been an armed robber is wrong?

Meeeeen, I would like to have some of the stuff you're on. Better still, who's your plug?

Michael547:
I have read your explanations......you have not explained how consciousness originated?

Did you read the part I said consciousness starts the moment fertilization happens?

budaatum:
I say. I said it above early in our conversation, and I gave reasons why.

Please go back and read it if you missed it, and quote it so I know you've now seen it please.

The guy keeps on asking questions that have been answered and asks questions that don't make sense

Michael547:
How did the first consciousness begin?

For real? You're asking this? Did you read my explanation?

Michael547:
Who has the right to determine that popular demands should be set up as laws?

Do you knw what popular demand means?

obonujoker:
It's perfect because it is what the soul needs, which is the most needful thing of all

Are you aware there are other holy books which contain what the 'soul needs'?
Btw, how do you know the entity called soul exists

Michael547:
So how did it appear?

I thought I told you consciousness appears when we are conceived?

Michael547:
Who has the right to set up such laws?

Usually by popular demand

Michael547:
You said self preservation is ingrained in our consciousness.....who is the originator of the consciousness?

There is no originator

Michael547:
You've not told me the origin?

Consciousness is the ability to be self aware. You can lose consciousness when knocked out. It starts the moment we are conceived but we are not aware of it til about 3 yrs

Michael547:
How do we define a 'civil society'?

A society governed by law and order

Michael547:
I never said I don't enjoy those things.....what is the purpose of enjoying them? Why should armed robbers not be allowed to do what is right in their eyes?

What is the purpose of enjoying food? What kind of question is this?
So you prefer robbers running all over you?

Michael547:
What is the origin of the order of 'nothing lives forever'?

I thought I explained all this

Michael547:
What is the origin of such consciousness?

I don't understand

Michael547:
You said people who don't want to live do not struggle to die.....meaning that death is normal and anyone who is tired of living can just go and jump over the third mainland bridge and die. So why should people Taking their lives actually be of concern to us?

It doesn't concern me, personally
But we live in a 'civil society' so such actions are abhorred

Michael547:
Why do humans need to enjoy life? For what purpose?

So you don't enjoy sex, food etc? I don't understand your question
Seems as if you ask questions for the sake of it

Michael547:
Why do our cells go through that circle?

It follows the order of 'Nothing existing forever'
Our cells live on limited resources. And we need to give back to the earth what we took from it, which is our body

Michael547:
Meaning that people jumping from third mainland bridge should not Even be an issue to be concerned about? Right?

Explain

Michael547:
What is the origin of self-preservation in humans?

Its what is ingrained in our consciousness. Lets say its a selfish streak all animals, including humans have. We love food, sex, money etc. So we try as much as possible to live to enjoy them

Michael547:
Then why do we burden ourselves with issues of morality on what is good and bad and look for Purpose in life?

Morality improves the quality of life. For example, living in an area filled with armed robbers would make one fearful and live a fear-filled life. Now imagine if there is less armed robberies, one can then enjoy life

Michael547:
What makes us not to live forever?

Our cells live and die, and new ones are created, and after a while this process of re-creation of cells gets weakened, or error prone. Our organs gradually weaken and we die
You start dying the day you're born

Michael547:
Fine....why do we struggle not to die then?

Its a human thing. Its called self-preservation. It can be lost though, in patients with severe psychotic depression who have suicidal ideation

budaatum:
What is even more terrible is them asking me to ignorantly stupidly gullibly believe them.

How people can be so deceptively evil is way beyond me.

Its called herd mentality. Most Africans believe stuff that are stupid because everyone else believes it. Their defense is 'they can't all be wrong and you are right'. They ignore facts, logic and evidence

Ken4Christ:
Do you know that eye witness account that agrees in oral or written text can also be used to authenticate a claim or validate historical facts?

None of the bible events are eyewitness accounts

Michael547:
So what is the point of achieving all those things since you would not continue living to enjoy them?

Nothing lasts forever. Even the houses and cars won't last forever, so why should we

Michael547:
So do you agree that our purpose on earth is just to live and die?

Yes

Michael547:
So you mean our purpose is just to live? If yes, why do we die and why is there so much suffering?

Death is important. Our corpse is a source of nourishment for many organisms which is important to the ecosystem.
Besides all of us can't be alive