Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:15am On Sep 03, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:13am On Sep 03, 2023*. Modified: 9:30am On Sep 03, 2023 |
advocatejare: Jonah that was sent by God to Nineveh is an angel too: Angel Jonah  Prophet Jonah is an angel,Oga continue WAILING. Carry your MUMU STUPIDITY outta here.
When JWs come to teach you God's word the holy scriptures, you prefer fables of gods of men in their business centres.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:09am On Sep 03, 2023 |
achorladey: I don't need to fool you. You have been peddling foolishness on nairaland since I came in contact with you on nairaland 
You and your likes comes to peddle stupidity everyday on nairaland. I don't have to change your ways 
Jehovah’s Witnesses here have reputation for lies, deny that they lied, come back later to admit that lie but before then while lying they keep peddling insult, abuse with their fufu peddling brains
We know you love peddling fufu with your brains and whatever you sell with that fufu brains of yours. You find it disturbing I am not buying 
If not for your fufu peddling brains you would have seen that before he made those screenshot available, I posted and screenshot earlier the same publication  achorladey: Problems for your fufu peddling brains to sort  Achorladey MUMU Continue WAILING and LYING. Ozuo WOKE pro max.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:08am On Sep 03, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Again, the wise show wisdom in every argument but the foolish show much more folly Jesus is a spirit and he himself claims to have been with his father before he came down. Besides coming as the Messiah, he too was a messenger as he told others about God... Simple thing we all know
Jonah was a man, a prophet from Galilee who delivered messages both in Judah and later to Nineveh... Your points are baseless H4397 - mal'āḵ - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (esv) - Blue Letter Bible www.blueletterbible.org › esv › wlc מֲלְאָךְ mălʼâk, mal-awk'; from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or ... Strongs's #4397: mal'ak - Greek/Hebrew Definitions - Bible Tools www.bibletools.org › Lexicon.show › m... an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):--ambassador, angel, king, messenger. Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon: mal'âk. 1) messenger, representative"
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 1:02pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Emusan: The challenge is that, you quote those verses instead of citing them.
How is this hard for people like you who claimed their authority is from the Bible?
JaNosense the lying liar JWs. Oga , READING & STUDYING 1 Corinthians15:22,45 NLT and Matthew 20:28 YOU DEY FEAR FEAR
Emusan,Your comprehension skills nah purtohpurtoh. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 12:57pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Courz: Mumu Janosky aka SubPlot aka the Iberibe Master aka Janonsense, went to Google to prove something to us. He said Since Angels are messengers of God, Jesus is also a messenger of God. Therefore, Jesus is an Angel. But Mumu Janosky forgot that Men of Old in the Bible were also messengers of God. And anyone Preaching about Almighty God and Jesus is also a Messenger as well. So, the question to Mumu Janosky is, are these people above also Angels?
Mumu Janosky, keep digging your grave with these useless points. You are helping our argument o. I love it! Courz digging his own grave. COURZD IBERIBEIST🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 12:47pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Emusan: You don't even know them well.
I've discussed with one JW on this forum using this line of argument and he confirmed to me that yes those old messengers are also Angels.
This was after I showed him that John the Baptist was called Messenger in Malachi who to prepare way before Jesus.
That's the extend Watchtower brainwashed damage can get to. Emusan, Your comprehension skills nah purtohpurtoh.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 12:42pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 12:39pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Prosper1912: @achorladey why and what basis should @prosper1912 give you verse that says Jesus is an angel when u don't believe that Jesus is an angel in the first place. No mind that WAILER EXPOSING HIS STUPIDITY & DECEIVING HIMSELF.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 12:32pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 12:29pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Emusan: No wonder you don't have liver and boldness to quote those verses but prefer citing them.
JaNosense the lying liar JWs MUMU WAILER dey FEAR TO READ & STUDYING Matthew 20:28 & 1 Corinthians 15:22,45 NLT from him own Bible.
Awon Jesus haters-Courz Oteneaaron Achorladey Emusan EXPOSING THEMSELVES  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 12:21pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Courz: Mumu Janosky aka SubPlot aka the Iberibe Master aka Janonsense, if Jesus is an archangel simply because he is coming with an Archangel's voice, is he also a commanding shout and a trumpet of God since he is also coming with those too? You are afraid to answer me abi?
Mumu Janosky, you say because Angels are called Sons of God and Jesus is also Son of God, therefore Jesus is an Angel. You even say Jesus is a Minister just as Angels are ministers. How about followers of Christ who are also called Sons of God and Ministers, are they Angels too? Why can't you use your brain for once and stop smoking that Igbo? Why?
Nairaland forum make una dey see this screenshot EXPOSING Jesus haters-Courz Oteneaaron Achorladey Emusan, DSpeaker mysogynist DECEIVING THEMSELVES.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 12:05pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Courz: Good. I wanted to tell you that this foolish Prosper1912 is trying to divert the discussion to another thing. The usual JW tactics when they are losing arguments and don't know what to say. That's why when he quotes me, I take him back to the discussion. He thinks he is smart. Very stupid fellow. Angels are ministering spirits, Hebrews 1:14.
Matthew 20:28 & 1 Corinthians 15:22,45 NLT, is Jesus Christ the life giving spirit ministering to your salvation?
Jesus Christ is an angel. ACCEPT the truth of 1 Corinthians 15:22,45 NLT & Matthew 20:28 OR Get liver DELETE THEM From your own Bible.
Awon Jesus haters- Courz Oteneaaron, Achorladey, Emusan. 1 Corinthians 15:22,45 NLT & Matthew 20:28 EXPOSING THEIR WICKED HEARTS. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 11:50am On Sep 02, 2023 |
Courz: I don't know why this is so difficult for JWs to understand. Never has the Bible ever called Jesus Angel Michael. Even before Jesus was born on earth, never did Angel Gabriel say he is Angel Michael to be reborn. Even in Genesis, never will you see God calling Jesus Angel Michael. Their Watchtower says Jesus was named Angel Michael before he was born. Where is the evidence to this in the Bible? You can't find it. The book of Hebrews even showed it very clear to us that Jesus is not an Angel. You have also shown that Angels have their limitations as to what they can do which is not the case with Jesus.
Why is the Bible so difficult for JWs to accept? Because there is something spiritual going on with JWs that makes them not to see what you point out to them from the Bible and they don't accept what the Bible says but only what Watchtower says. Continue WAILING & LYING 
1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:28 imprint it into your brain. The voice of Archangel Michael the person of Jesus Christ raises the dead. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 11:48am On Sep 02, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: The Book of Jude says:
But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).
And Who is The Lord?
Jesus is The Lord!
Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.
Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).
You have to learn the laws of making a valid argument to beat anyone for God has made it so that "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH."
So you need to know when people are making an invalid argument. Not every reasonable sounding argument is valid that is what The Law of Falls popularly called fall'acy (fallabiility) is all about.
And devils always argue by committing the fall of off point/change of issue or topic or post by using style to slide from the issue of the argument to another.
So watch their words keeping in eye the issue of argument and cut them off as soon as they slide away from the issue. That is why you always see me raising change of post or off point.
Because, if you stick to the issue, you will clearly see that they do not have a valid answer to the issue.
Not every reasonable sounding argument is valid! Archangel Michael copied "the Lord JEHOVAH rebuke you" from Zechariah 3:2.
"The Lord JEHOVAH is referenced @ Jude 1:9.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 11:43am On Sep 02, 2023 |
Courz: So, Mumu Janosky can agree with his biggest enemies which are Trinitarians? This is shocking! What does your Freemason Watchtower think about this?
Mumu Janosky, if Jesus is an archangel simply because he is coming with an Archangel's voice, is he also a commanding shout and a trumpet of God since he is also coming with those too? You are afraid to answer me abi? MUMU WAILER desperatel TWISTING 1 Thess 4:16.
"The lord himself is coming with an Archangel's voice... The lord himself is coming with a commanding shout The lord himself is coming with trumpet of God."
3 tasks performed by Jesus Christ @1 Thess 4:16. Courz LYING IBERIBEISM  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 11:35am On Sep 02, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: See jw speaking with reservation on the matter 
Jude expressly shows that Arc Michael is less than Jesus.
But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).
And Who is The Lord?
Jesus is The Lord!
Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.
Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).
And in John 8. Jesus directly calls Satan a Liar thereby bringing a condemnation of slander on Satan. What Arc Michael could not do.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. No, Sir.
Another lie of LYING DSpeaker 
What is the evidence that DSpeaker was LYING? Jude 1:9 is a quote COPIED from Zechariah 3:2.
Zechariah 3:2 " the angel said "the Lord JEHOVAH rebuke you."
Jesus the angel of the Lord JEHOVAH quoted Zechariah 3:2 (from the old testament) in Jude 1:9. The same manner Jesus Christ quoted Mark 12:29 from Deuteronomy 6:4.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 11:20am On Sep 02, 2023 |
Prosper1912: Yr bother say nor be angel The IBERIBEIST wants you to go back to his LYING IBERIBEISM which has been exposed and debunked by the holy scriptures.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:59pm On Sep 01, 2023 |
Emusan: You go explain tired, no evidence.
Just a single verse. You brainwashed JW can't provide Ephesians 2:3 & Psalm 58:3 in your own Bible you are denying in a public forum.
Emusan LIAR continue dey console your delusion and MUMU.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Believe In Miracles? by Janosky: 9:55pm On Sep 01, 2023 |
maximunimpact: Happened in 2010 Did Paul the apostle tell you he encountered false brothers in his ministry? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 9:47pm On Sep 01, 2023 |
Allthelight: Jesus didnot call himself "Angel micheal" At any point.
Witness say jesus is too limited because he does what his father wants...
But forget there was never a time jesus hide what he felt, pains, anger, sorrow, hopelessness.
Jesus even prayed and asked us to ( another question that can't be answered is if Jesus said he is the resurrection and the life then why pray ?). You now see the mysteries about Jesus, alot of folks who claim they know God trying to change the bible.
I personally do not like arguing with witnesses...
Even the father didnot call Jesus "Angel micheal" he called him his son.
Do they claim to know more than God ? Oga, which angel is not son of God?
Angels are ministers, Hebrews 1:14. Matthew 20:28, is Jesus Christ a minister? 1 Corinthians 15:22,45 NLT, is Jesus Christ a spirit ministering to your salvation?
1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:28, did Jesus voice resurrect the dead?
Who is the serpent @ Genesis 3:15 & Revelation 12:7-9? Who is the seed of Genesis 3:15 made manifest by John @ 1 John 3:8/ Revelation 12:7-9 to defeat the serpent?
Do you realize that Jesus Christ is a morning Star? Do you realize that morning Stars are angels?
Jesus Christ is archangel Michael. Kponkwem. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:37pm On Sep 01, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:35pm On Sep 01, 2023 |
achorladey: You cannot invalidate the Bible you carry based on your thinking outside the box manipulations. God makes it rain on the good and the bad, the righteous and unrighteous. Correct? MUMU WAILER
The God Almighty makes it rain and makes the sun shine on Sodom and Gomorrah HE destroyed ALL the infants & toddlers by fire.
Show us the Bible verses that says "all babies are God's friends". E no hard nau.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:27pm On Sep 01, 2023 |
Emusan: Mumu JaNosense, I've already dealt with this consult your fellow brainwashed brother for Bible study.
So you came late. Emusan MUMU WAILER & faithless miscreant dey console himself.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:24pm On Sep 01, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:15pm On Sep 01, 2023 |
Emusan: Well put.
If anyone dare to challenge Russell or Rutherford that will be the end of his/her time in that Hall 
The funny thing, they will be arguing and defending the worship of Jesus against those WHO BELIEVE Jesus shouldn't be worshipped then.
Well, the reason I don't take them serious is that since they believe in NEW LIGHT they should just wait small what they are defending with their life and blood today and called NEW LIGHT might be OLD LIGHT tomorrow when their gods come back to their senses and realised error had occurred  Faithless miscreant's who don't believe in Ephesians 2:3 & Psalms 58:3 are WAILING.
Whereas their fellow Trinitarians (in this screenshot) PROVEN them wrong. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 9:05pm On Sep 01, 2023 |
Emusan: So far so good, no verse ever says "Children are God's enemies."
You keep repeating this your gods' lie since without a single verse. 
Believe in God's word who says "Children are the Heritage of the Lord and the fruit of the womb is His rewards" EVERY child and EVERY adult are enemies of God, according to your fellow TRINITARIANS.
Faithless miscreant,is Ephesians 2:3 & Psalms 58:3 in your own Bible?
In the screenshot,Your fellow TRINITARIANS agreed you, Emusan MUMU. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 1:08am On Sep 01, 2023 |
FxMasterz: John 1 also makes us to know that Jesus is the Word of God. Not an angel.. The oldest Bible, older than ALL English language Bibles by more than a thousand years. @ John 1:1 rendition: " the word was a god."
FxMasterz: Isaiah 9:6 says the Son that would be born to us would be called the the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father among other names. No angel can be so called. Exodus 6:3 + Psalm 83:18 KJV, the God Almighty, Jehovah is NOT anybody's son.
Acts 3:13, Jesus Christ is his Son/Servant |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 1:02am On Sep 01, 2023 |
FxMasterz: There are several verses of scripture that you can use. These are some of them:
1 Timothy 2:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16 "He was manifest in the flesh" Greek lexicon 3739 @ 1 Timothy 3:16, Oga go & verify this fact PROVEN in the screenshot.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 12:59am On Sep 01, 2023 |
Courz: Mumu Janosky, So you agree with Trinitarians but everyday you are here arguing with the same Trinitarians about their doctrine. You call Trinitarians all sort of names but because they say Jesus is Angel Michael, you are proud to showcase their doctrine. So of Trinitarians are wrong you will follow them to be wrong? Is that Pure Worship? Hypocrite! Trinitarians are now your friends! Your Elders must hear this. You're now Apostate!
Mumu Janosky! is Jesus the commanding shout? Is Jesus also the Trumpet of God? Remember we are using your JW Logic to describe Jesus? Is that verse telling you Jesus is the commanding shout and a trumpet of God? You JWs only picked Archangel voice and ran with it. Is that how to read Bible? You just pick words and describe Jesus anyhow you like the Antichrist you people are? Why did you pick only archangel voice but left commanding shout and trumpet of God? Is that verse telling you Jesus is an archangel, a commanding shout and a Trumpet of God? This is simple English. If you twist it, you are Satanic. TRINITARIANS believing Jesus Christ is archangel Michael, is a death sentence to Trinity.
Continue WAILING. Ozuo pro max  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 12:56am On Sep 01, 2023 |
Khallicopyro: Ask him why God had to send his only son down to earth to die for us before he (God) can forgive our sins.
Ask him if Adam and Eve where the first humans God created and Cain and Abel their first and second son. Then who did Cain marry when he ran away after killing Abel? Who created the people in that place in ran to? Invite JWs in your neighborhood to answer your questions using your Bible. Thanks. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Janosky: 12:54am On Sep 01, 2023 |
Courz: Mumu Janosky, is Jesus the commanding shout? Is Jesus also the Trumpet of God? [/b]Remember we are using your JW Logic to describe Jesus? Is that verse telling you Jesus is the commanding shout and a trumpet of God? You JWs only picked Archangel voice and ran with it. Is that how to read Bible? You just pick words and describe Jesus anyhow you like the Antichrist you people are? Why did you pick only archangel voice but left commanding shout and trumpet of God? Is that verse telling you Jesus is an archangel, a commanding shout and a Trumpet of God? This is simple English. If you twist it, you are Satanic. [b] Sifia pains of DUBIOUS COURZ  @ 1 Thessalonians 4:16. * "Jesus Christ himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout.... Jesus himself will come down from heaven with the trumpet of God...." |