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preciousee17:
Okay, it means, God the Senior, Elder of Jesus?
Why do you keep avoiding that Pater has a higher possibility of representing the literal Father? Even when you're seeing it in that screenshot?
I wonder how you'll interpret John 3:16...

preciousee17:
After typing a bundle of false interpretations, you are saying Shalom? Shalom for what? That's a parting statement but I'm not going anywhere yet!


Start misinterpreting the Bible more often so that we'll be sure that you all are intentional about all these.

Who said that Jesus is equal to God? Me?
Jesus is everything that God is, and The Holy Spirit is the same as well. That's the kind of equality I would mean if I say that He is indeed equal. One there means Unity, Unity means One. Agreement is not One-ness.

What do we mean by oneness?
unity of thought, feeling, belief, aim, etc.; agreement; concord. a strong feeling of closeness or affinity; union: He feels a oneness with God.
Oneness Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com › browse › oneness"


Confused LYING TRINITARIAN exposed

preciousee17:
Here, I also have a Greek Dictionary:
Greek: πατήρ
Transliteration: patēr
Pronunciation: pat-ayr'
Definition: Apparently a primary word; a father (literally or figuratively near or more remote): - father parent.
KJV Usage: Father (268x), father (150x).
Occurs: 419
In verses: 372

From your screenshot, we see that Pater could mean a literal Father too (or a figurative Father, just as my dictionary has further clarified), but you totally distanced yourself from the interpretation of God as Jesus' Father and accept God as Jesus' Elder/Senior...
So judge with me, who is denying and rejecting the Holy Scriptures?

By the way, I really hope that you aren't running away from the other things I said in my reply to you!

According to Strongs 3962 ,Strongs Concordance, Preciouslee,why are you DECEIVING YOURSELF?

God the Father of Jesus meaning 'God the Senior, Elder of Jesus'.
Is this PROVEN fact ACCEPTABLE to you?

Trinity na scam

preciousee17:
Who said that Jesus is equal to God? Me? Jesus is everything that God is, and The Holy Spirit is the same as well. That's the kind of equality I would mean if I say that He is indeed equal. One there means Unity, Unity means One. Agreement is not One-ness.
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preciousee17:
After typing a bundle of false interpretations, you are saying Shalom? Shalom for what? That's a parting statement but I'm not going anywhere yet!


Start misinterpreting the Bible more often so that we'll be sure that you all are intentional about all these.

Dtruthspeaker:
The moronic thing about you is how greatly stupid and evil you are not to real eyes that God is looking for "ANY ONE" (SINGULAR) John 11:25 and not a group of liars and demons claiming believers.

Dtruthspeaker:
See how jw devil is now lying and insulting all because he cannot counter. ;

preciousee17:
To be stupid is one thing.
To voice your stupidity in public is another.
You are here using one line of a sentence to draw an argument?
Again, where did I mention your name when I mentioned the people I'm interested in spreading my last message to?

preciousee17:
Okay, I agree, God is One.
So I hope you have a valid explanation for John 10:30,
“I and the Father are One”

Dtruthspeaker:
Teliing satan that he is evil is not an insult so also is saying that jws are devils as proven by the evils you people say and do, is not an insult.

preciousee17:
... The moment you realize that 'God' actually tells us that we MUST surely worship Jesus one day, like it or not!...

God first of all speaks through Prophet Isaiah saying,
“By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear. They will say of me, ‘In the Lord alone are deliverance and strength.’ ””

We understand that in our own way, but note that God says 'By Him' every tongue will swear (Confess).

Let's move to where Paul reinterpreted that statement to the Philippians,
“Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at[b] the name of Jesus[/b] every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”

Can we agree with Paul?
That God says we will bow at the the name of Jesus?
Bow to who?
Are we to mention Jesus' name and bow to God or what?
Are we to call Jesus our Lord, our number 1 authority?
Wait, God was tired of being our master? And told us to call Jesus Master?
Have you seen that God is comfortable and takes Glory in the whole idea?
Wait who even said all these in the first place? Isn't it God Almighty through Isaiah?

Remember, through Isaiah, God said that by Himself every knee will bow...
And according to Paul, by the name of Jesus every knee will bow...
Does this mean that Jesus is also the same as 'Himself' in the book of Isaiah?
Does this mean that Jesus is also one with God.

Have wisdom, and have very much of it.
Dtruthspeaker
vdestro

preciousee17:
2nd Comment...

To all those humans arguing to and fro with JWs... I wonder if you're trying to convince them that they should worship Jesus, meanwhile they already have eyes to read the Bible but refused to do so and only accept their preacher's definition.

MaxInDHouse:
Mumu!

Check the quotation very well on the KJV.

That LORD is fully in upper case showing that it's not about Jesus rather the LORD who sent Jesus:

O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker.Psalms 95:6

The KJV referred the Almighty God as LORD while Jesus is referred to as Lord:

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.Psalms 110:1

So it's another person that Psalms is referring to not Jesus!

Dtruthspeaker:
Your devil brother started it and change of post, i did not say Christ did not copy it. So off point. You don't have anything to say!

See as e wan save face join argument after hin don spoil he jw brother own. And na even off point! .

Just chill in your shame! nothing can be done about this fuq up you made. Not even insults can alter it.

vdestro:
Hmm! I thank God for the exposè. Now I know how to treat them.

preciousee17:
The number of Christians who actually gathered here to respond to this foolishness, this one is for you:

Proverbs 22
3. A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey,
and a rod for the backs of fools!
4. Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
or you yourself will be just like him.
5. Answer a fool according to his folly,
or he will be wise in his own eyes.

Just in case the language is too hard to comprehend, it means:

You are silly if you answer a silly question.
You are as silly as the person who asked the question.
If someone asks a silly question, give him a silly answer. So he will know that he is not so wise. He is not as wise as he thinks.

Dtruthspeaker:
Your devil brother started it and change of post, i did not say Christ did not copy it. So off point. You don't have anything to say! D

vdestro:
I have nothing to say to mad people.

Dtruthspeaker:
See as the mad stupid jw dey contradict hin stupid devil brother wey bin stupidly talk say this Lord in Mark 12. no be the Same THE LORD!

Stupid mad devils all these jws.

Abusive Speaker making FALSE claims on Nairaland


Jesus Christ copied Deuteronomy 6:4 he quoted in Mark 12:29.

American Standard Version
Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Hear, Israel: LORD JEHOVAH our God, LORD JEHOVAH is one"

YHWH was quoted by Jesus Christ & retained in Mark 12:29 in the Aramaic Bible & few other translations.

SHAME ON YOU LIAR

vdestro:
Wow oh Wow.

And they use Jesus to preach meanwhile see their true hearts oo!

Kobojunkie:
Define Worship? You have yet to do that. At least begin by stating how the God of Scripture insists those who believe in Him are to worship HIm?

vdestro:
Them be call you mad before, now i don see am with my eyes.

Kobojunkie:
So, extreme admiration, love or reverence for God qualifies as Idolatry? You have got to do better than that.

vdestro:
Wow! I am actually blown o

I didn't know that JW's are cloaked Satanists for only one would say they do not worship Christ.

Wooow!

Emusan:
Where are the lies?

JaNosense dumb

Emusan:
The way you always sound, one can see the frustration in you very deep



You won't stop showcasing your shallow mind.

So Jesus is divine while on Earth and you claimed nothing exists of Him after He died.

Emusan:
Address my point and stop being stupid.

Emusan:
When you lack knowledge on things ask, so that you'll stop disgracing yourself in public domain.

Architect don't BUILD/Construct, Architect only DESIGNS.



Stop talking nonsense.

Not all instructions come from the owner of a building.

Which instructions will the owner give when it comes to the structural stability of the building? Even Architect has nothing to do with structural design and analysis of a building.

You see the reason why you people argue shamelessly and this argument fall flat when it come to Creation.

Emusan:
Olodo lying liar JWs.

The last time I checked, it you lying liar JWs that claimed Jesus is just an ordinary human being on earth and nothing divine in Him.

So when will you stop lying for your gods?

Emusan LIAR SHAME ON YOU TRINITARIAN.
Four evidences against you confused LYING TRINITARIAN

Google , Divine definition:
Learn to pronounce divine
/dɪˈvʌɪn/
adjective
of or like God or a god.
"heroes with divine powers"
synonyms: godly, godlike, angelic.

JWs always maintained that Jesus was divine, a god, godlike,@ John 1:1 the evidences in screenshot.

Emusan LIAR confused by Trinity

Dtruthspeaker:
If you were normal you would know that offpoint responses are always thrown into dustbins.

MaxInDHouse:
So who are the devils now?

The two of you furiously criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses but can't come to terms regarding your fellow believers in the Catholic Church {Luke 11:23} or Jehovah's Witnesses whose line of thought globally is one! John 17:22

Dtruthspeaker:
At the least you have admitted that He is the Architect! And an Architect is One Who creates, hece a Creator.

So, i am well in order!

Oga, please allow Psalms 33:6 & Matthew 11:25 to saturate your brain & cure you.
Psalms 33:6
"The LORD Jehovah merely spoke, and the heavens were created. He breathed the word, and all the stars were born"

Please ALLOW Matthew 11:25 disclosed by Jesus Christ & Psalms 33:6 disclosed by the Psalmist to cure you.

Either Jesus/the Psalmist were wrong or you were wrong.
Oga, Make your choice.

Emusan:
The only person doing damage control here is you because you haven't proved your case from the scripture.
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Emusan post,9th August,2013.
"The word (Jesus) that PROCEEDED from God's mouth is the first thing in ALL creations"

Go & ask your gods of men & your kindergarten teacher to explain that sentence you posted on 9th August,2013.


Ozuo pro max.

Emusan:
Remember you claimed, God is the one who created the Heaven and not Jesus
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Emusan:
John 17:7 "Now they have come [u]to know[Lu] that all the things you gave me are from you;

I know you don't have sense but try to pick your brain from Hall sometimes.

Jesus Christ has spoken to you @ John 17:7 that God gave him life and any other you can think of.

Ozuo pro max.

Dtruthspeaker:
See jw twisting and turning like serpents.

The issue is "do Words go back to the mouth".and not whether "Adam & other creatures are not Gods"..Change of Post

See how you prove that jws are devils by your twistings and change of posts?

You people are finished just like the the atheists and Catholics.

DSpeaker is abusing himself rather than answer the questions asked.
SHAME ON YOU TRINITARIAN Worshipping 3 deities