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MightySparrow:
Don't mind them: JWs, Church of Christ, and some others modalists.
When JWs argue about Trinity, the make it loud as if they are the only christian group who chooses not to believe the doctrine.
However, going through the Apostles Creed.
, which many of them don't know, the claim and doctrine is clear.
If you start reading gospel of John from 14 through to 17 objectively, as it collaborates other scriptures, trinity is valid.

If you have issues with language, you begin to read thoughts. Language is to pass across thoughts not vice versa.

Jesus said, 'John 16:28-31
[28]I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
[29]His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb.
[30]Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.
[31]Jesus answered them, Do ye now believe?

The bolded is the position of the trinitarians.

I always ask JWs, in John chapter 1, Hebrews 1. The Bible says all things were created by the Word
1. Is the Word a creation or the creator?
2. If the Word is a creation, with what was the Word created?

They begin to merry - go - round.


Jesus made his disciples to understand and confess this claim of being part of the father before going to the Cross.

Cheers brother.

If God his Father (meaning "Senior" does not speak, would the word (Jesus) exist?
Jesus told you he came forth (originated) from the Father, did Sparrow originate from his own Father?

John 17:21-22 Jesus, the disciples and the God are one.
TRINITARIANS TWIST John 10:30 to suit their FALSE doctrine.
Oga, go and rest.

Shebi Revelation 3:2,14 & Romans 11:35-36 is in your Bible. Believe it.
Or'
Just continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.

MightySparrow:
Is it paining you ní?

Emusan:
Just as your ignorance is fast killing you.

Whatever the clown meant by this.
If not because your brain is paining you, what are you still arguing for after the @color?

Oponu Oniro oshi

Emusan LIAR in sifia pains WAILING

Emusan:
Who started the group called IBSA, if not Russell?

Lying liar hallgoer miscreant.

You better go and collect your brain from your Hall.

Emusan:
Again you agreed that Russell is the FOUNDER.

So how much does Russell sell it to Jesus?

Emusan:
So who started the group?

Not Mr Russell.
So your first assignment,
Or continue WAILING

Emusan:
Who did Jesus informed that He choose IBSA?

Emusan:
Good, so how much did Jesus buy it from Russell?

You better reboot on your lies and deceptions.

advocatejare:
Are you referring to MaxInDHouse or Russell that left Adventist to give you a cult of deception ?

MightySparrow:
Her fate not faith.

advocatejare:
She was brainwashed by the unfortunate cult she joined
Many members of JW cult have died from this false doctrines of refusal of blood transfusions. I will be sharing some of the stories.

One Mrs Adeline Kweku Keh, based in the UK has died shortly after childbirth. Report says she died allegedly refusing a blood transfusion for religious reason.

Your STUPIDITY & brainwashed IGNORANCE is very nausating.

She exercised her rights recognised by the Law & by medical professionals to choose the form of treatment she prefers,in the same manner that other patients have rejected chemotherapy and other forms of medical treatment.
But, you Advocatejare & confused Sparrow will NEVER tolerate any criticism of any form of medical treatment you choose.

Advocate HYPOCRITE & Sparrow IGNORAMUS.

achorladey:
No get sense and mumu peddling brains is here to peddle more no get sense and mumu.


Always asking mumu and no get sense peddling questions. Go and read the post again and correct your mumu and no get sense peddling questions. He cannot even comprehend the sense behind the post he is asking me about divorce.

When you won't stop associating with lunatic peddling peddler. That's what the outcome will be

MaxInDHouse:
Default mode!

advocatejare:
They just turn their foolish members to zombies,

It’s a pity, people are actually perishing for lack of knowledge

achorladey:
Those Bible verses I have trashed it repeatedly here on nairaland. You can only peddle your mumu and no get sense over it.

achorladey:
Liar, manipulator at his best.

Jesus needed a publishing house that will keep publishing errors, mistakes in doctrines and organisation direction


Jesus is a party to lies and manipulations in buying what had been disseminating lies and manipulations for +/-150 years

Emusan:
So if what Russell taught are different to what your organisation is teaching today. IT MEANS:

1. Jesus was not with Russell
2. Jesus didn't direct Russell.
3. Jesus never choose Russell
4. Holy spirit and Jehovah never support nor dish spiritual food through Russell.
5. Russell was never part of those ruling with Jesus Christ.

Watch as he'll Change mouth now

MaxInDHouse:
Your impatience is really affecting you my guy, this is what all your friends have been agitating for right from the start of this thread.

Russell is the founder of WATCHTOWER that is what he invested all his wealth on not the group called International Bible Students Association (IBSA)

So try to calm down and get things straight in order to know exactly what you're agitating for.

©Russell is the FOUNDER of WATCHTOWER the publishing company.

©International Bible Students Association IBSA is a group of researchers studying the Bible to know what Christians should be doing today.

©Jesus chose that group because they are ever willing to make amendments in whatever they got from the churches of Christendom.

©So Jesus needed a publishing company that will be used to print whatever his group needed so he bought the Watchtower from Russell.

Now you can reboot to figure out whatever you want to agitate about!

achorladey:
During the reign of King David and under his leadership, can you tell us how many were killed as a result of the politics and fights within his government? Despite the people being God's people and married God's people?

The fight and politics even among his children almost brought his rulership to an end. Stop peddling lies and manipulations of the Bible you carry to market a religious organisation not different from others


When David was running all over the place because Saul wanted to kill him, that too is as a result of politics and fight among those who marry God's people and are God's people. David even had to seek cover from those pagan nations(who are not God's people). Before Solomon took over rulership from his father, the politics about who to succeed him was equally raging among God's people who married God's people. After the death of Solomon we know the politics that happened which equally led to the division of the nation one ruled by Rehoboam, the other by Jeroboam.


All of the examples above are your God's own people who married God's own people who copied the politics of other nations and fight and killed one another despite being married to God's own people.

Your lies and manipulations exposed for what it is once more as insanities and madness peddling.


We know many marriage in the realm of your religious organization that have collapsed and still crumbling despite members married fellow members. .

Achorladey WAILING in sifia pains.

Did Jesus Christ PERMIT divorce in your Bible?

Continue in your FOLLY & WAILING.


Matthew 19

Discussion about Divorce and Marriage
19:3,9

3 Some Pharisees came and tried to trap him with this question: “Should a man be allowed to divorce his wife for just any reason?”



8 Jesus replied, “ 9 And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery—unless his wife has been unfaithful.

Ken4Christ:
Angels are spirit beings with flesh and bones. They have the ability to operate in both the physical world and the spirit world.

Notice, I didn't say flesh and blood. Flesh and blood has to do with humans. But angels have flesh and bones. The Bible says that we will be like angels in heaven.

Emusan:
See this Watchtower brainwashed calling someone kindergarten in the Bible.

So you're saying Rev 12 didn't say Michael and his Angel fought the dragon and overcame him with the BLOOD OF THE LAMB
Manipulator and peddler of the scripture

Emusan:
This idiotic JaNosense won't stop.

So you can't provide where Bible says Babies are God's enemies
Besides, you didn't answer my question, are babies not INNOCENT according to the scripture?

Emusan:
The Bible says Babies are INNOCENT.

True or false?

Bible says Babies are INNOCENT, true or false?

You didn't address my points, why?

D

Job 25:4
"How can one born of a woman be INNOCENT?"

Emusan LYING against the holy scriptures, SHAME ON YOU.
Emusan LIAR born to be LYING.

Emusan:
But 1 Corin 14:20

Psalm 127:4

ROM 16:19

Matt 19:14

Are not inspired word of God to JaNosense.

Where did Bible say Children are God's enemies?

JaNosense the worshiper of the lying 8 old men in Warwick

Emusan LIAR, misquoting 1 Corin 14:20

Psalm 127:4,ROM 16:19 & Matt 19:14.

Emusan LIAR,did those "8 old men in Warwick" dwelling in your brain write Job 25:4 in your own Bible?

Emusan:
That's why they are very restless jumping from verse to verse jusy to cover up the lie dished from Warwick

achorladey:
They have to remain restless. Even their GODS usually warn them that any recordings of whatever they say should be used personally by their members. They already know they will dish out lies that will be easily refuted

This one they dish pass them

He came back asking questions that have been answered repeatedly.

Allthelight:
Some angels sinned against God tho... They are called fallen angels.

See why i said u guys lack understanding about christ ? Comparing Christ to Archangels micheal is funny.


Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah.

Where did the salvation come ?


"For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them before our God day and night"
Who is he accusing before the lord ?

WINDSOW:
Guy, chill abeg.
JW dey Jones..

Dtruthspeaker:
From Zechariah to Peter to Psalms, who is next bus stop in your train of lies?

DSpeaker your LYING & IBERIBEISM done cast tay tay.

Allthelight:
"Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah"

Take note of the word salvation there.. It was actually mentioned first for all to see.

The brethrens (brothers/sisters) resurrected from the earth owe their salvation to the Lamb Jesus Christ.

Are angels sinners?

Oga, go & rest

Emusan:
But 1 Corin 14:20

Psalm 127:4

ROM 16:19

Matt 19:14

Are not inspired word of God to JaNosense.

Where did Bible say Children are God's enemies?

jesusjnr2020:
Are you too spiritually blinded by your antichrist beliefs and false teachings about hell fire, that you couldn't even spot the quotation mark about word hell to show its merely an illustration?

Is there fire torturing the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah forever,as you claim with your perpetual torture hell doctrine ?

Carry your Mumu quote to your dustbin.

achorladey:
Manipulator of the scripture decides to start asking questions using the account of Job

Your Mumu and no get sense peddling brains didn't tell you or read clearly that babies are innocent. That fact was stated without raising questions



The ways and thoughts of God are far far different from ways of men. The job you quoted went ahead to state.....

Then Job said in reply to Jehovah: “Now I know that you are able to do all things And that nothing you have in mind to do is impossible for you(including something pure from impure). You said, ‘Who is this who is obscuring my counsel without knowledge?’ Therefore I spoke, but without understanding About things too wonderful for me, which I do not know.


Now here is what your religious organization say about Bildad who uttered the below in the screenshot .....



It is in your blood to lie and manipulate the scriptures just like your GODS to advance more lies and manipulations

Jobs children are enemies of God the reason he allowed calamity to befall them according to Bildad and that is the truth to support your lies and manipulations in order to defend your GODS with your no get sense and Mumu peddling brains

Allthelight:
Who are the They ?

Dtruthspeaker:
Arch Mike na YHWH? Oya stretch your lie reach here.

Allthelight:
what made them victorious was the blood of the lamb and their testimonies rather...

Even Jesus said he has no power on his own.. Jesus talked about him, his father and the spirit with detailed explanations.

John 5:19... u guys are only interested on shallow things.. No deep root... One thing is for sure if u don't know the son then you can't know the father.

Oga, you are a kindergarten pupil as far as Revelation chapter 12 is concerned.
Revelation chapter 12:10-11, references brethrens (brothers/sisters) resurrected to heavenly life and rejoicing that they conquered the devil with the blood of the Lamb.

Why would archangel Michael & his "not love their lives so much that they were afraid to die?"
Are spirits (angels) sinners in heaven?

Oga,Why are YOU insinuating that angels in heaven taste death?

Courz:
These JWs are so stupid. They have been cursed by Watchtower not to understand the Bible at all even when obvious evidence pointing their error is boldly showing. How can you trust the interpretation of the Bible coming from JW with this horrible history like the screenshot below?

Revelations 12 vs 11 says that Michael and his angels (Which shows that Michael is an Archangel) battled with the Dragon and defeated him with The Blood of the Lamb. This means that angel Michael was not that powerful enough to defeat the Dragon. He needed extra help even though he had his angels with him. What these Brainless JWs are supposed to ask themselves is, If Jesus is really Michael, why is Michael and the Lamb who is Jesus, mentioned separately in this verse? Why is it that Michael still needed assistance from the Lamb even though he had his angels with him?

JWs will never sit down and think and say to themselves, Come o, this our doctrine is a big error based on Revelation 12 vs 11. Never will they do that. Instead of listening to the Bible, they will rather argue and argue. The Bible has already defeated them and shown their error with Revelations 12 vs 11 and other verses. What does this show about JWs? It shows that they don't listen to the Bible. They don't even regard it as anything. They only regard the errors of Watchtower as Gospel even though they have made so many blunders like the ones in the below screenshot. In the screenshot, the first answer is the correct one. And this should be a cause of concern for any Christian. I am glad people rarely listen to them. Just look at the screenshot. Can you trust anybody that tells you that Angel Michael is the Pope and the Antichrist? God forbid!

Allthelight:
that say bible is telling you they (Micheal and his angels) overcame the devil by the blood of the lamb and the words of their testimonies ( testimonies are what God himself has done ).

Allthelight:
Have u read Jude 1:9 ?

Is angel Micheal now the word ?

Dtruthspeaker:
See how he is avoiding and dodging Jude 1:9!

Dem no fit face am in proof that they are devils

When you finish now maybe one day you would hear that they have scratched out Jude 1:9 from their bible!

DSpeaker mysogynist DECEIVING HIMSELF.
Zechariah 3:2 YHWH Jehovah (the Lord) rebuke you"