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Ken4Christ:
The things of God can't be grasped through reasonings.

Can you reason out how Mary got pregnant without the agency of a man?

Can you reason out how Jesus walked on water without sinking?

Can you reason out how water turned into wine?

Can you reason out how water could flow out of a rock.

If you hinge you belief on reasonings, it will certainly not agree with the word of God.

Our brains were not designed for certain spiritual truths.

Spiritual truths are received into your spirit.

The doctrine of Trinity is scriptural but what is wrong is the way it is presented.

It is not three God's in one person. It is one God manifesting himself in three persons.

As such, there is no such thing as God, the Son or God the Holy Spirit.

It is One God who physically manifested himself in Jesus and whose presence fill everywhere with the Holy Spirit.

There is no right way to teach a FALSE doctrine.

How come the same ghost leading all Trinitarians has given you a conflicting information which Contradicts the Nicene Creed?

Ken4Christ:
The things of God can't be grasped through reasonings.

Can you reason out how Mary got pregnant without the agency of a man?

Can you reason out how Jesus walked on water without sinking?

Can you reason out how water turned into wine?

Can you reason out how water could flow out of a rock.

If you hinge you belief on reasonings, it will certainly not agree with the word of God.

Our brains were not designed for certain spiritual truths.

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All the rivers & streams in the world flowed out from a rock.
How does that amount to God is 3 deities you worship?

John 20:17 & Acts 3:13,Did Jesus Christ worship 3 persons?

Just continue

Ken4Christ:
The things of God can't be grasped through reasonings.

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Mark 4:33-34
33With many such parables Jesus spoke the word to them, to the extent that they could understand. 34 He did not tell them anything without using a parable. But privately He explained everything to His own disciples."

Jesus used Parables about the spiritual realm to teach his followers?

Just continue your deception.

Ken4Christ:
What happens when the blind leads the blind? They will both fall into a ditch or be crushed by a moving vehicle. Just continue with your deception. Your real master, Satan is waiting to punish you in hell for job well done. And he will laugh you to scorn. You will remember all these post when it happens. You close up your conscience just to uphold teachings you know are definitely lies. I feel sorry for all that have been held captive by your demonic teachings.

Agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

Did Satan punish Adam in hellfire?
Indeed your own deity is Satan, typical sadist.
Son of Perdition deceiving himself.

Ken4Christ:
It's not what I think. The scripture is very clear on the subject of salvation and eternal destiny of men. I am trying to help you make a u-turn from the pathway of destruction you are following. Please, accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour. Do not harden your heart. This is the opportunity you have. And the good thing is that you will receive an instant transform that cannot be denied.

Why not try it and give God the glory later.

So, say this prayer if you want to be truly born again;

Dear Lord Jesus, I believe you died for me and I believe that God raised you up from the dead to justify me. I hereby confess you as my Lord and Saviour from this day hence. Thank you heavenly father for saving me. I am your son from this day hence in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

Congratulations if you or any other person said this prayer.

The next thing you need is the baptism with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues.

Follow my recent post on how to receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit. He will make your life supernatural.

Don't let this opportunity pass you by.

Jesus loves you and so do I.

Scriptures related with our salvation

John 3:16-18
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For BY GRACE ARE YE SAVED through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast.

Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Titus 3:4-5
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, BUT ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY HE SAVED US, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

1st Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

sagenaija:
Disingenuous Janosky!

According to Rev. 4:2, where was the throne with the 24 elders? On earth or in heaven?

sagenaija:
Chapter 7 verse 9 started with "After this....." In other words, after the events he had just narrated. And he went on to talk about the throne.

sagenaija:
So, Janosky, when did the throne that John saw "set in heaven" according to Rev. 4:2 come down to earth?

sagenaija:
Do you see where CONTEXT comes in again?

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ who left this planet fully clothed in human flesh is a spirit?

2. When was Mount zion relocated to Heaven?

TenQ:
And the Deceived feel it means literal tears where God will use a white holy handkerchief to rub their eyes!?

When Satan succeeds over a person, he drags his intelligence and comprehension down to sub zero

Shame on you illiterate

When Jesus raised the widow's only son and raised Lazarus from the dead, were the tears wiped away from the widow's eyes as well as Martha's eyes?

Resurrection of the dead wipes away pain, mourning and tears arising from pain.
Ignoramus get out of here jare.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!



After arguing blindly for weeks on letters that you don't know it's interpretation you ended up calling an atheist your brother then pray for your faithless brother in Jesus name!



Even Jesus refused to pray for those who don't believe in him:

"For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world" John 17:8-9 compare to Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14

You miscreants won't cease to amuse me!

Don't mind them with their GIBBERISH deceiving themselves.

Jesus gospel of the new heaven and new earth no reach their hearts.

ALL of them wan go heaven as if na jamboree.

sagenaija:
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According to your logic too, the angels standing around the throne in Rev. 7:11 were not doing so in heaven. Abi?

When I repeatedly say context, context, context, it seems your puny brain refuses to trigger a reasoning mode.

Mumu post TWISTING the holy scriptures.
Lets ALLOW Revelation 7:9 (screenshots) to expose your fallacy.
"All the angels were standing round about the throne and the elders......."
Proof the angels in heaven formed a circle around the throne and also the circle was behind the elders....."

This Oga, TWISTING the holy scriptures under the guise of context, did your own Bible give that same description of verse 11 to the Multitude in verse 9?

No!

You are so dishonest hiding under the guise of context


[b]Did your own Bible @Revelation 7:9-10, say the Multitude are angels?
No !

@Revelation 7:9-10, were angels redeem with the blood of the Lamb?
No !
Revelation 7:11, kindergarten pupils know that these angels are spirits dwelling in heaven.

Verse 11 PROVEN that angels are NEVER co-rulers with Christ.

sagenaija:
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In order to muddle the waters you bring up different unrelated things and hope that you're being 'clever' by so doing.

sagenaija:
Do you remember that I mentioned "context"? Now, go to Revelation 4:1. What does it tell you? When John was told "Come up here", where is the " up here"?
Also, do you find multitudes there? I know that you will need a magnifying glass here.

According to your logic,@ Revelation chapter 4,is the new earth Jesus referenced in Revelation is "up here"?

@ Revelation chapters 4 to 7,in your Bible were the Multitude referenced as rulers?

Revelation 5:9-10,You think that going to heaven is for jamboree?

sagenaija:
Did John see a throne when he was asked to "come up"? Was the throne where he was asked to come up to? In chapter 7 did that throne change location?

I know you guys work from your dogma to interpret the Bible. That is why no matter how clearly a thing is presented to you unless it agrees with what your Governing Board says, you will never accept it. Your brains are that skewed. We now know who is deluded and trying to get others to be the same.

By the way, if I say " I talked directly with Mr. Z" do you know what will determine whether it was via phone or in-person meeting? Let me help you - CONTEXT. I hope you're getting sense small, small.

sagenaija:
By the way, if I say " I talked directly with Mr. Z" do you know what will determine whether it was via phone or in-person meeting? Let me help you - CONTEXT. I hope you're getting sense small, small.

TenQ:
I did not ask you of any explanation: the scripture has already judged you?

Kobojunkiee:
Are these responses of yours not of joke?
Did you actually attempt the reduce the All-Powerful because scripture now informs you that you were wrong about His dwelling place?

Mount zion is here on earth and that is the same mount in Jerusalem where the 144,000 were written as standing in Revelations 14. How you transported that mountain to Heaven in order that you can conveniently claim a delusion fed to you by your GBs that only the 144,000 will be in Heaven is beyond me.

sagenaija:
'Intelligent' Janosky doesn't seem to know that CONTEXT matters. Is the context of "before the Lamb” the same as the context of Paul's "I kneel before the Father"? Use simple intelligence.

So, who wants to deceive who?

sagenaija:
However, where was John seeing all these experiences? Let that be a quick Bible study for you.

sagenaija:
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Here you go again!
I said, "...in those Revelation portions.."
You now come and reference a particular portion to ask if what I said is there. How disingenuous can you get?

See who is talking about "disingenuous!"
Is Revelation 7:9 about the Multitude missing in your Bible?
Which other chapters referenced the Multitude?
You are not honest !

TenQ:
Go sleep. The scripture is a witness against you!

TenQ:
The scripture has finished you and showed you as LIARS!
There is nothing else to add.

Go sleep!

Your self deceit & mumu is extremely extraordinary


Sage, Your friend you support, Claimed:
"BEFORE THE LAMB" actually means face to face with the Lamb. "

Your own Bible,Ephesians 3:14
"For this reason I kneel before the Father"

Oga , does "BEFORE THE FATHER" actually means face to face with the Father?

Deluded Clowns LYING & throwing tantrums on this forum.

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

forever loving to post the same nonsense lies
and call the Christian Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible: "3gods"
and of course loving to mock the Holy Spirit:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

because two say different things doesn't mean that the Holy Spirit is conflicting
many people talk from their ego's and not from the Holy Spirit, just like you do
but you love to mock and blaspheme the Holy Spirit at every opportunity, don't you oh lost one:
Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

OLAADEGBU:
"Are angels eternal, or were they created?"

Angels were created by God. Therefore, they had a beginning.

Learn about them at http://ow.ly/v7vR50MCLZZ

sagenaija:
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Everyone can see in those Revelation portions, "IN HEAVEN", and "BEFORE THE LAMB" but if it doesn't fit into their dogma they will refuse any claim that "in heaven" actually means literal heaven or "before the Lamb" actually means face to face with the Lamb.

How TWISTERS of God's word see themselves as the best group on earth leaves one amazed at the depth of degeneracy the heart of man can descend.

sagenaija:
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TenQ,
The pair Janosky and MaximDHouse, and their type work from their DOGMA not from the Bible. An organization that adds words to the Bible shows itself for what it is - deceptive.

These guys ignore context and every known way of biblical interpretation. What they do is take their dogma and superimpose it on any portion of the Bible. .

Sifia pains
For JWs rejection of "every known way" of DUBIOUS renditions of 1 Timothy 3:16 & 1 John 5:7 & John 10:33.

Revelation 7:9-10 , the multitude were NEVER in heaven.

Shalom.

TenQ:
Of course.
The god of this world have blinded both their eyes and hearts to the truth of God's words.

Their doctrine and their governing board are their replacement for the true God and Christ

Oga, you are throwing tantrums & deceiving yourself?
Kobojunkie quoted Isaiah 66:1-2 for you to debunk your claim.
Why is your fellow 3 deities worshipper,Kobojunkie, receiving a conflicting information from the same ghost leading you?

sagenaija:
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So, you TWIST the Scripture and expect me to follow you because you have "practical application" that excites you?

Do you congratulate a thief simply because he uses part of the money he stole to give to some other person? You celebrate his "philanthropy" and blind your eyes to the fact that he's a thief?

Dtruthspeaker:
Satan is not really challenging God. All he is doing is simply to attack all of God's Work to destroy them or get them to destroy themselves.

And God is just laughing at him watching as he suffers going against God's Works especially where Satan loses.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Why then do you pray to God for him to sought things on earth when Satan is clearly the one in charge?😂 That makes prayer useless..

1chronicles 29:11_12 says_ "Yours, Lord, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the splendor and the majesty, for everything in the heavens and on earth belongs to You. Yours, Lord, is the kingdom, and You are exalted as head over all. 12 Riches and honor come from You, and You are the ruler of everything. Power and might are in Your hand, and it is in Your hand to make great and to give strength to all".
Contradicting itself again...🥱
How come he has all power and Satan still rules the affair of Earth... Or do we say he's an accomplice of Satan's act and gave Satan the power...because according to the the bible book nothing happens without his knowledge! 😂

If I should go by that first clownish Bible verse you attached then that makes god useless since he has no say and control over earth.. right? Then why do you pray to him when devil is clearly in charge? 😂

Oxfordgrade:
but sir how do you explain Daniel 5:21 After reading 1john 5:19 & John 12vs31? Please sir can u throw more light especially on Daniel 5:21 to butter your point

SaintNegro77:
Read 1john 5:19 and John 12:31

TenQ:
...And everyone is standing beside the four BEASTS and the 24 Elders and before the THRONE!

I shake my head in amazement : what has Satan given you to eat!?

The issue with you is your love for arguments and tantrums when Bible truth is shown to you.

Revelation 4:1-3,6,10 CURES YOUR TANTRUMS.. .
The 24 elders are spirits in heaven.
Therefore, Isaiah 66:1-2 very correct, we on earth are ,as it were, "standing before God's throne".

Revelation 4:1-3,6,10 ,Oga read your Bible.
Note the highlighted points therein.
1After this I looked and saw a door standing open in heaven

Kobojunkie:
This is what God said through His prophet.
Now, try to picture what it could mean for it to be possible to be standing right here on earth and be in front of the throne of God's in Heaven.

FxMasterz:
If there are 'First fruits', then, there'll be a second. You're the one saying what the Bible didn't say. Don't you know the meaning of firstfruits? Perhaps, you may ask a farmer. Remember that the terminology in Revelation is all about harvest. 'Thrust in thy sickle, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.'
Also, to what purpose is the everlasting gospel in verse 6?

Revelation 21:1-5 = Matthew 5:3,5.
Oga, go and delete Revelation chapter 21:1-5 nau