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KNOWMORE56:
To me be happy, rejoicing with friends for additional, unmerited year added to one's years remains the greatest celebration after our redemption.

KNOWMORE56:
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You cannot provide any scripture where God commanded dancing during weddings just as you cannot see it for birthday celebration.
If the above is not true then prove it wrong.

The scriptures is full of commandment against erecting any thing ( not just calf) and call it god;

and you are asking me to tell you why God was not happy with them?

**2
Again, before they entered the Promised Land, God told them ALL the things that the people of the land were practicing that He hates.

But birthday celebration was not mentioned.

True or false, DappaD?

Since He did not mention birthday celebration, it's either it didn't exist or He did not see anything wrong with it.

Jesus, my Lord and God, did not say anything about it.

Watch tower is digging histories written down by unbelievers as concrete facts that God is not pleased with birthday celebration!

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Who celebrate annual birthdays in Egypt?
Genesis 40:20, pagans like Pharaoh.
Bros, Pls name the Israelites who copied Pharaoh
None !

Leviticus 18:3 Jehovah hates pagan practice of annual birthdays celebrated in Egypt
Leviticus 18:3 = 2 Corinthians 6:14.

KNOWMORE56:
Ecclesiastes 3 :1-6 is there for you to read.

My point is, positive happenings and negative happenings are mentioned in the chapter. If you separate them, birthday/ the day to be born will surely be with dancing, rejoicing.

What I'm saying is birthday in the chapter worth a happening that should command dancing, celebration, rejoicing.

I have also told you that the the wedding day dancing that you are so fascinated with does not appear there.

Moreover, you are a Watch tower devotee, watch tower devotees don't believe the scripture but their 8 men.

KNOWMORE56:
The following some of the things God has not said do or don't do. People choose them as they are pleased. And nobody should accuse another one of idolatry:

1. Piercing of the ears by men/ women
2. Wedding cake, dance,etc
3. Birthday celebration/ Christmas
4. Decorations of graves of loved ones and so on.

KNOWMORE56:
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"...hence does not please God...."[b]

Please can you show where He said that He is not pleased with birthday celebration?

KNOWMORE56:
You are now using respected historian in place of the scriptures: I don't believe them. I only know that pagans have the duplicate of ALL the practices.

DappaD:
However you want to put it, it is not supported by Scripture and was practiced by die-hard pagans. Genesis 40:20-22, Mark 6:21-29

I believe Barristter07 and Janosky have done justice to this subject already—explaining from the Scriptures and accurate historical records that the celebration does not originate with pure worship and hence does not please God so I need not bother myself explaining more.
The way you replied to me, is sort of sending the message that you need a “go-ahead” or an approval from the Witnesses? Okay so if they don’t agree with you, kasala don burst be that? Mark 7:5

bobestman:
Your argument is the one blind and pointless. I gave you 2 places birthday was celebrated in the Bible but it is pagan in nature and has to do with killing. You didn't give me any to support your point but you still call my points blind.

achorladey:
And the educated literate continue to entangle himself. We will soon get to the realms of Jesus support idolatry. It has happened before it is repeating itself again.

Since God didn't remove Solomon for practicing IDOLATRY, it means God support Idolatry and serving as a case study God don't have to remove Russell, Rutherford e.t.c since God had already supported the precedent in the case of Solomon

Since God didn't remove King Solomon for engaging in pagan practice, we have been asking you, when did you and your religious organization become the master, perfecter and finisher of faith or GOD of those celebrating birthdays that you have to remove them from whatever position they are?

Why King Solomon wasn't removed from the throne when he engaged in pagan practice?

And he has been here from page what again?(remind me) on this thread battling against birthday celebration.

Let me rephrase the question well for you

Question:

Why have you been going against celebrating birthdays (pagan practice) since King Solomon wasn't removed from the throne when he engaged in pagan practice?

Answer: It means God support pagan practice

Janosky corroborate this answer

achorladey:
It's usual now, they pick what they like to support whatever they are interested same way their religious leaders do and go ahead to call it spiritual food at proper time.

But when the same reference shows what goes against the same thing they are supporting. It becomes wisdom of the world is foolishness or they forget and abandon the usual quote secular history agree with bible.

Matthew 28:20, is your Christmas and annual birthdays celebrations, the teaching and command of Jesus Christ?

Matthew 28:20, according to Jesus Christ, is your noise on annual birthdays and Christmas celebration untenable?

Their god is their belly. Pagans pretending to love Jesus

achorladey:
Show us why your founding fathers celebrated Christmas and BIRTHDAYS despite the presence of Leviticus 18:3a in your Bible and died doing so.

After all one of your brothers said Matthew 28:20 was given by Jesus. Tell us why your founding fathers didn't follow through on that and still make heaven


The circling continues. Back at Leviticus 18 racing back to Matthew 28:20 soon.

blueAgent:
As usual you dodged answering my question.

blueAgent:
Your salvation is based on principles laid down by men not God?

If you are to fellow principles laid down by so called God's people, which of them would you fellow?
Is it Israel's unfaithfulness to God and their love for pagan culture and traditions , is it the heritage you want?

blueAgent:
[s]I see, that's why your church is known for several failed prophecies.
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John 15:7
New King James Version
If you abide in Me, and My words,abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.


You must know Jesus words and his commandments before the Holyspirit is given to you.
[s]Which means your Church is far from receiving it.[/s]

Says blueagent who has repeatedly stood against Matthew 28:20 on this thread.
Bros, your personal preferences is more important than obedience to Matthew 28:20.
Your 'oly spirit' no tell you say obedience to Matthew 28:20 and John 15:7 goes hand in hand?

Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself

KNOWMORE56:
I like this your question. There's no single practice in the church or any Christian assembly that pagans do not have its photocopy/version.

The person who is serving Satan does what is doing to glorify Satan while the person serving God does his own to glorify God.

As for me who 1st start am no be anything, but who you have in mind for doing it.

The gentiles come follow dey do animal sacrifice, Paul said their own (i.e the gentiles') is for Satan.

*. Genesis 31:54 "KJV:Then JACOB OFFERED SACRIFICE UPON THE MOUNT, and called his brethren to eat bread: and they did eat bread, and tarried all night in the mount."

*. Acts 14:13 "KJV:Then THE PRIEST OF JUPITER, which was before their city, BROUGHT OXEN and garlands unto the gates, AND WOULD HAVE DONE SACRIFICE with the people."

*. 1 Corinthians 10:20 "KJV:But I say, that THE THINGS WHICH THE GENTILES SACRIFICE, THEY SACRIFICE TO DEVILS, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils."

Trying to claim that you are superior christians to others because of birthday party and Christmas day celebration is ERROR.

Matthew 28:20, Bros, does Jesus agree with your claim?
Matthew 28:20, you are telling this forum that obeying Jesus Christ is ERROR.
Issorait !

KNOWMORE56:
"[/b]..., is mourning exclusively for pagans"[b]


Let's substitute the other words for mourning and see your answer:

is birthday celebration exclusively for pagans?

is Christmas celebration exclusively for pagans?

What are your answers?

KNOWMORE56:
Did Jesus taught that couples should wear wedding wrings or flowers for wedding or burial?
The things watch tower point fingers at others, they have their own version of it.

This is one of the reasons it seems as if people are against them, when the same thing is pointed to them.

Flowers for burial ground, mourning, coffin, wedding wrings, kisses, etc, are all pagans practices; or show us where Jehovah gave you go ahead.

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] It seems you have a hard time reading and comprehending, which makes me wonder if you really pass any exam in your life. I said show me the verse of the Bible where Jesus or his disciples addressed Him as Michael.


P. S: I do not need footnotes ;just a scripture that says Jesus is Michael

You are LYING and making a mockery of yourself and the institution you received your tertiary education.
Half baked mumu
Bros, SHAME ON YOU .

TUEH !

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] This lengthy nonsense is copied from watchtower liars who regularly masturbate with the truth. Abeg, just show us one scripture of the bible where it is expressly stated that Jesus is Angel Michael

Ammishaddai is a LIAR

achorladey:
See what you have been reduced to Pele!

A typical example of how you see those who don't agree with the "imperfect mumu and mistake people" you call your religious leaders. Keep it in mind!

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] This topic is for Christians not Jehovah witnesses who accept Michael as their Lord and savior.

The truth wey your Trinity mentors done confirm as far back as 1599.
You come this forum dey showcase your ignorance gleefully

xproducer:
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I already explained all this. There are many mysteries of GOD... this one (1 John 5:7) in the infallible, holy word of GOD is what I proffer, yet you dispute it!

"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Timothy 3:16-17

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I cannot make you see... only GOD can, only GOD does... so pray to mercifully see!

"But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." - 1 Corinthians 2:14

"If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him." - James 1:5

achorladey:
See what you have been reduced to Pele!

achorladey:
Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ

The above is why I still believe you need those sense pass me because. I wonder how you call yourself educated literate and mumu detector.

When you see clearly you are not in anyway close to being Jesus Christ and master of these people, what did you decide to type?

Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ

The previous post that you have responded to shows the level of your mumu detector and your shout as an educated literate. Pele!

achorladey:
Na that same holy spirit your founding fathers like Russell, Rutherford e.t.c do those celebrations up there despite. The holy spirit didn't remind them of Leviticus 18:3.

That same holy spirit equally made it clear that your members can copy and do things BABYLON THE GREAT does and inherit heaven too.

Before I forget, Matthew 28:20 was sent down by the holy Spirit in year 2000 C.E.

Lagoon0:
For the fact that you kept bringing the divorce question of the Pharisees, you've proved nothing.
They ask can a man divorce his wife for any reasons?

You expect Jesus to yes or what?
Even me myself would not say yes.
He told them they should not divorce their wife simple.
If the Pharisees had asked should a man divorce his wives for any reason.
Jesus would actually say no to divorcing of wives because they've become one also.

Don't go beyond context. Point to me where the question asked refer to polygamy and stop using divorce question to answer polygamy question.
Common sense is not rocket science

Ammishaddai:
The Sent is there Sender. Jesus had two natures : a divine nature and a human nature which is why sometimes He spoke as man, and other times He spoke as God.

xproducer:
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We do not understand the nature of GOD unless He reveals Himself to us, which He mercifully does -
"For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." - 1 John 5:7

The Lord JESUS, the CHRIST is GOD!
"For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." - Isaiah 9:6

One of His many wonderful names is the mighty GOD! (Also see Revelations 1:7-8 )... and GOD says He is the only GOD there is!

"Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, the Lord? And there is no other God besides Me, A just God and a Savior; There is none besides Me." - Isaiah 45:21

"I, even I, am the Lord, And besides Me there is no savior." - Isaiah 43:11

"Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” - Acts 4:12

Only GOD = JESUS the CHRIST saves us from sin and death!

"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." - John 6:44

obonujoker:
Jesus Christ is God the son

achorladey:
We are "sensitive to the conscience" of our fellow JWs, we no go do piñata there

And you and your religious leaders are careless about the conscience of those not members of your religious organization. Thank you for the notification


Anywhere else,wey piñata be like boju boju, without any sort of religious significance ,we fit do am.

Let's rephrase,

anywhere else, wey birthday be like bojuboju without any sort of religious significance, people fit do am. Correct?

The birthday and Christmas celebration una dey do no get religious significance


You and the members of the organization you belong have to be careless about the conscience of those celebrating birthdays and Christmas. You remember

blueAgent:
Why do Christians mourning knowing that pagans also mourn?