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PeaceJoyLove:
Dearest MaxInTheFakeKingdoms,

Take a look again at Pastor Adeboye the way he carried himself during this trying time for his family. Baba preached 24 hours after the death of his son when he broke bread with the people of God, and when he came out to talk about it during a service which was 3 days after Dare slept, it was all "glory to God". And listen to his speech of thanks after the funeral, it was all "glory to God" with a promise to work more with the youth to save lost souls like you because Dare was a youth pastor. 78 years man oooo. He must have wept in his room but he has the Holy Ghost power in him. An ordinary man cannot do it like this. It is the power of God. The power I have been telling you about.

Baba Adeboye is the first man I will say publicly yes....this is truly a man of God. Listen, I dont call any man Daddy GO, but i am telling you again here...Baba is the only one I will call Baba and Daddy GO. I called him Daddy GO first 24 hours after Pastor Dare passed to glory. Why? Not because others call him, but the same reason people saw Jesus and said "yes, truly, this is the son of God", the same reason which is the spirit of God who lives in Baba Adeboye is why I am telling you that "Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye" is truly a man of God. And I reasoned that he was the first man in Nigeria people started calling Daddy GO. He didnt invent it. He was just GO like others. But people suddenly changed and started calling him daddy GO because of the way he handles the matter of God. I refused to call him that until 24 hours after Dare passed to glory. I was flabbergasted that a man who people should rally round and have a doctor close by is the same man sitting down and breaking bread. Ha! E pass me oooo. You are young. You have not lost a loved one. So, you dont know how it is. Not to talk of losing a son. Go and watch the video when the news of the death of Yinka Odumakin was passed to his old father. The old man was shattered. Men stood up fast to move near him cos they can quickly held him. Neck injury or bone fracture is why they stood up fast. Boy, you need to calm ooo. I am teaching you the real principle of life here. Forget all the bashing before. It was for a purpose. Boy, you need to learn. This life is so deep. Guy, pray for the power of the Holy spirit oooo. Pray.

Listen to me, my dear friend and sister Eviana as tough as she is, she too saw the gift of God in baba Adeboye's life. Go and check her comment about baba and his family. And she has not met baba. Even demons can see that the spirit of God lives in him. But who will not see it. People like you who live in deception. People who have allowed their brains to be washed away.

Max, I am sure you were not yet born when baba started at the extreme beginning of Cemetary Street in Ebute Meta. Listen boy, my old church was along the same street, and mine even got there before the Redeemed. If I mention the number, people will tell you the denomination sharply. That was where I was born in. So, I know how he started. I know how he spent his personal money to do God's work, and how the church sand filled the area cos it was close to the river at the saw mill in Lagos. When you drive on 3rd Mainland bridge, you will see the Redeemed CHRISTIAN church of God so glaring when you get to oko baba side before you get to Adeniji. Boy, I am telling you this story so you know that I am not a member of this man's church, but I know him well. But i refused to call him daddy GO too. But alas! I saw what the first people who started calling him Daddy GO saw. Boy, others copied the slang. Others demanded the slang. But Enoch did not. People started calling Adejare Daddy GO because of what? Because Pastor Adeboye is truly a man of God with the evidence of the fruits of the HOLY spirit. Gbam! Guess what, Baba changed the part Redeemed was built officially to Redemption Street. He said the Redeemed cannot be on Cemetery street. This is a man who knows God deeply. We know because we can see the fruits and the results.

And I pray Max, it may take 25 years for you to realise you have been deceived because you went against the living God, but listen, Jesus will still use you to open the veils of others in the fake kingdom. When I wanted to say words into your life, Jesus told me never to because you are a vessel who will use this same aggression to open the veils of your brothers and sisters. Oh! You are a Paul. Oh! I pray for you brother, you will fight like Paul for my Jesus soon. Oh! My Jesus will reveal to you the miracle behind Trinity in the mighty name of Jesus. Hahahha! A soldier of Christ is born in Max brethren. This one is already arrested.

Please, leave Max alone. He will surely look for this thread again after many years. Listen boy, all you need is to be sober and plead the blood of Jesus when the time comes. And ask for Holy Ghost power. When you have it, you will move into those demonic kingdoms and scatter everything there. When someone challenges you openly to show your God, you will bounce out and not hide behind your screen. You will migrate from being a keyboard warrior to a real soldier of Christ.

Max, my Jesus is good oooo. He has laid his hands on you. So, keep insulting me. Who am I? I wanted to do what guys call "giragira", but the spirit said..."son, relax". The facts are before you. Keep working for the Ceasar and the works. Its temporary for you. Oh! I forgot you are still collecting money from dad and mom. Bro, the pocket money for your data for all you are doing here is from the Ceasar you are going against. So, Ceasar is just smiling at your ignorance. But dont worry. Ceasar will be disgraced soon. Oh! Jesus has promised me. MaxInFakeKingdom will be MaxInDHouseOfGod soon. It may take 25 years before you realise you have been lied to, and may even take another 10 years to change completely. It doesnt matter. Check the video of pastor Adeboye here again (you will need it in the future), baba said it doesnt matter how long, it is how well. No matter how long Ceasar holds you, Jesus has promised to free you.

Please, ignore him ooo. It's the directive of Holy Spirit I am following. I dont want to reply him, but the Spirit of God told me to. And I know there is a reason. Back to silence.

Amen!

PeaceJoyLove:
Absolutely yes, he doesnt serve your god you cannot rely on when challenged openly by ordinary I. He serves the God of Elijah. You dare Him, He rains fire.

Rozcol:
Have you locked the gate,Oga go sack you ooo.

Kobojunkiee:
What has the verses you keep throwing at me to do with the question I asked of group member?

If you are all going to play tag-team, at least show some level of intelligence for once. Revealing yourselves no different from a cult and then whining when you are called out as one is really unbecoming...

PeaceJoyLove:
I can still engage you cos ou are trying to discuss unlike the other one called Max who just want to waste his life by getting too zealous. A boy who has nof seen life opening his mouth without guard. I do not want him provoke me.

Ok...so, I have one question. Who audits you? Could you give up proofs here?


What is the relevance of this to what we are talking here. Is it not finance you are talking about? Must you quote irrelevancies? It seems a ritual in your yeye kingdom is to quote anything quotable.


So, you know your level. But you can do Anglican shakara. Guy, I like you. You sabi your level. You too know that you are not Gates' match. Lol.



I did not falsely accuse you of anything. I know that it that you are just running your mouth. And if I ask you to show face, I am sure you will prostrate and beg. Cos the matured one about uou guide and guard their mouth. You can see how the oga of Max shut the crap up and have walked away. But you are the zombies who do not know when to stop. Continue.



But Ceaser gives you jobs, you work under him, you collect from him, he bosses you in the office. And you can feed your families. Oh! Sorry! I am sure you do not understand it. I think Dappy understood it cos perhaps hes already earning. So, he walked away gently. Ok...you may push him back...lol
But you are still under dad and mom. Hmmm! You will not understand it. It's why your mouth is still running.

Anyway, before you sleep night, ask your dad and mom why they work for Ceasar. Why do they not work for JWs only. The last time I checked, Jesus said give Ceasar, and not take from Ceasar. But you are taking from Ceasar and then you abuse him for making you contribute to the things you do. Your source of income is from Ceasar.

It means a lot. Go and medidate on this issue.

BassReeves:
You surely never cease to amaze me with how you lose focus. I can tell you at what moment in time a H₂O becomes liquid water, and what moment in time H2O becomes, vapour or steam water or even when H₂O becomes solid ice water. Each stage or transformation are distinct from each other, but you never can take it from them, that they each are H₂O

1. At what moment in time did God become Father?
2. At what moment in time did the Word, God become Jesus Christ?

PeaceJoyLove:
Oh! This is excellent the way you have written it. Fantastic.
*1.
But see even the holiest man will write frauds perfectly like humanitarianism. Frauds cannot be detected with internal audits. Only external audits can do it. So, I applaud you that at least you do the following, *2.
but to say that the financial statement your church has is 100% accurate is like believing the devil created the heaven and the earth. Fraud is everywhere.

Also, other churches do these things too. And if they choose to publish it on CNN or BCC fine. Publishing is publishing. What is the difference between the two? And what is the main reason you think your services to humanity are better than others?

4.
If we have to quantify how you give, your whole donations is a tiny fraction to what Bill and Miranda Gates Foundation has done. Yet, these couples do not even serve God in anyway. Would you say their giving is nothing? Those who received Polio vaccination in the North (polio is officially kicked out of Nigeria) know how they benefitted from it. Of course, CNN, BBC, and the rest louded it so much. But does it matter? The most important thing is that things are done there, and polio has been eradicated from many parts of the world.

Now, I am not saying the "givings" of Bill and Miranda are acceptable to God because I do not have the financial details and the process. Likewise, I do not have the details of yours. I will even rather believe Bill and Miranda more than you because they allowed external audit (not saying there is no fraud). Of course that you keep yours a secret and your kind do everything because outsiders are rags to you. **5.
So, I can say that JW are doing great. You arent transparent. But the reality is that I do not believe you. I only heard you and it's fine. I do not believe because you do not make me believe you. Why? You are too secretive. And this is an attribute of cultism.

Well, I am not saying you are because I do not know yet. But I am just curious why everything about you is secret.

So bro, I thank you for breaking down how you gather fund and use it. It is good. But there is nothing special in all you have listed. I see it as just a group of people trying to help the world and making it a better place just like others. While I appreciate your work, I also appreciate others. But you do not appreciate others like the pharisees. Yours is the best. Your giving is the best. Your worship is the best. Your kingdoms are the best. Your dress patterns are the best. Your feeding patterns are the best. Hmmmmm.... This is where your denomination has got it wrong. You are not the best because with all these things listed, if we use it as a fraction of all the total service to humanity in this world, yours may not be up to 0.1%. So, let others stop and let JW do it alone, lol.....let us see what will be of this world.

JW members should learn to appreciate others. Learn to see the good in others. Learn to accept where you are wrong. The Ceaser of this world you see as evil guides you and protects you. As evil as the Nigerian govt is, if security is broken down finally, you and your members cannot protect yourselves. Yet, you do not see good things in collaborating with government other than calling it Cesaer. Na waoooo! Can your elders secure all members if war begins in Nigeria? Learn to appreciate government and get involved to make government a better place. You have this world now. Later you will have what you believe in. But saying you are not of the world while you are enjoying the benefits of this world says a lot about you.

Guy, you get brain na. Even these things were used to brainwash members a century ago, you are in 2021. Bro ha ba! Why una dey dull yourself? You don fall my hands. Sit down and look at these issues well. Tear the veils covering your eyes.

Sit down bro. Just think about everything. Seriously, you will find you have been collaborating with others. Trust me. The only thing you suppose to do is to appreciate others too instead of making yourself the all in all. This is the main reason I opened this thread.

*5.
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Madam you no fit disguise your prejudice.
Your Church/Pastors have NEVER made their financial statement public, but we JWs made ours public.
Yet , you FALSELY claim JWs secretive ,an attribute of cultism, madam please include yourself and your Church/Pastors in the cultism equation.
You are guilty by association .
Madam, it seems everything you know about JWs is hearsay & look out for any perceived event that will validate your suspicion. .
My childhood friend had such perception too. But today he is a JW.
I didn't preach to him at all.

PeaceJoyLove:
You will say the kind of manner or what exactly is wrong or the differences.

From our discussion above which I didnt contest, you said you are concerned more with your fellow JWs. Fine and good. I did not disagree with you cos you defended it even with Bible verses which I am.not contesting.

So, BBC covered a service, or covered a humanitarian program. How is this different from yours? I see no difference, but you boasted only your church is righteous and you cannot bring yourself down to the level of the going to BBC or CNN. So tell me. Why not?

PeaceJoyLove:
The level of what you disclose to CNN or BBC is what they release. So, if you choose not to tell them a whole lot of details, they cant publish such.

See, Max did the same thing ....always digressing. We arent talking about who Max called pastorpreneurs here.

Actually, you made a point with box in the front, ushers carrying them around. But wait! They too may have reasons for it. Why dont you ask them to understand before judging them. At least I'm asking you now. You are doing exactly what you accuse them of doing.

Here is my question again. Are you saying that since the creation of JW, there is no single person suspended from trying to enrich himself from the church?

So, can we conclude that using BBC or CNN is not a crime or sin, but what we should try to just use it as a tool for spreading the word instead of showing off?

Kobojunkiee:
I am sorry what?

God is Love, and He is eternal...
I don't see how verse 8 tells you that Miracles have ended.

DanceVille:
Happy Sunday Folks! Blessed one in Jesus name Brethren.

This keeps bulging my mind because have seen some believers that have tattoos on their body and they are strong believers. They have the tattoo when they are unbelievers but after they converted to been a believer, the tattoo still remains because it's a permanent one.

Assuming I have the tattoo of my mother or father or my son/daughter on my body and a strong believer of Christ, does that makes me an unbeliever or does that mean that I need to get the tattoo erased before I can make it to heaven.

I remembered when we were been preached to by pastor then that God says we shouldn't have any form of tattoo on our body, christ sees it as sin.

But the issue now is, let's look at this two different scenarios;

1. I have a tattoo when I was an unbeliever, but converted to a believer and there's no way I can erased the tattoo, does that still makes me an unbeliever?

2. I'm a believer of Christ, strong and faithful to him. But I wish to have an image of my dad/ mum or son/daughter because of the much love I have for him/her, does that still changes me to been an unbeliever in christ?

Brethrens, please let's contribute to this issues and share your opinions with reference to the word of God.

Stay happy ❤️

BassReeves:
Brah, you want to teach big momma how to suck eggs.
It's our work, soft work, its what we breathe, 2 Timothy 2:15, John 14:26, John 16:13 and all

John 1:1 In the beginning ( reference to beginning of creation.. Genesis 1:1.)
The word was God = Greek the word was towards/facing the God. (Meaning Jesus is with another different entity)

The word was God (in essence not same person he was with).
Greek - the word was a divine being , godlike,
a god.

In Greek John 14:1, Jesus established he's clearly distinct from the God.
The God, his Father.
The word, Jesus.

PeaceJoyLove:
You will say the kind of manner or what exactly is wrong or the differences.

From our discussion above which I didnt contest, you said you are concerned more with your fellow JWs. Fine and good. I did not disagree with you cos you defended it even with Bible verses which I am.not contesting.

So, BBC covered a service, or covered a humanitarian program. How is this different from yours? I see no difference, but you boasted only your church is righteous and you cannot bring yourself down to the level of the going to BBC or CNN. So tell me. Why not?

BassReeves:
Ask when was the station on air last

PeaceJoyLove:
You can see where I am going. See, I felt bad that Max annoyed me and I called you guys devil witnesses. He really pushed me.

You guys sound so self righteous exactly like the pharisees that boasted. Jesuse ignored such prayers and honored a simple prayer by the tax collector (a politician and a looter like our politicians who have destroyed Nigeria). So, you are not 100% right (no one is), but you guys walk in here majestically boasting you know God more than everyone. Whereas when atheists handle you,......oh la la. I usually see how they flog you so much here.

I'm confused. Why would you set yourself so "high and high" like the only righteous people? This is exactly the ways of the pharisees.

BassReeves:
1. Please explain what beginning is John 1:1 referring to and what difference is there in 'the Word was God' and 'the Word was God Himself.'
2. Are you disputing John 1:2 truth and fact about the continued existence of the Word?


PS: Addressing your latter or edited post. If not for the Word, you wouldnt come into existence, as there are is nothing created that weren't created by the Word that became flesh. Your being on earth is through the effort of the Word

PeaceJoyLove:
I'm less concerned about churchpreneurs here. And I will not go into the details of who donates more cos it doesnt matter here. Even Jesus did not value donations according to the early worth, but according to the willingness and sacrifice behind it. Let's leave this aside and not digress. Just stay with broadcasting.

What is the difference btw broadcasting your goodwills through all the media you have stated your church uses and CNN/BBC? Is it because CNN and BBC arent owned by your members?

BassReeves:
If you want to continue this discussion, make sure you give your answers back in the same numbered sequence, format and style the questions are asked. Dont generalise and don't hid your responses in a jumbled up replies. Now please give your answer in the same numbered way the five questions were asked you

John 1:1-2
'1In the beginning [before all time] was the Word (Christ),
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.
2He was [continually existing] in the beginning [co-eternally] with God. '

You're wet behind the ears, and so I am not surprised you're underperforming. Watch this carefully and be at full alert, as if you do, maybe the penny will drop for you

Teacher: How old is your father?
Kid: He is 6 years
Teacher: What? How is this possible?
Kid: He became father only when I was born

MaxInDHouse:
NEIGHBOUR has categories nah!

So the first to be considered is my fellow believer then others may follow! Matthew 12:46-49 compare to Galatians 6:10

PeaceJoyLove:
Bro but you announce yours to the world through your publications also..hmmmm.... is it not the same as broadcasting it? Ok, let me ask. Do your faith permit you to own a TV or radio station? Or to buy broadcasting time on air? Even if it is to preach? Do you believe in TV and cable ministry?

Krismas:
The Jews are not Christians. They are therefore free to have any view of Jesus as much as they desire. But how can a group who claim to be a Christian group like Jehovah’s Witness, have no good reference from other Christian groups? U are almost the only one who say there is no Hell, Holyspirit is a force, no trinity, no soul, only 144thousand will make heaven, Jesus is angel Michael, and so on. Though u have been warned dat d Vaticanus scripts which your bible heavily leaned on, is corrupt, u will not hear. Being a peaceful organization is not enough, cos groups like Eckankar, Grail message, AMORC etc are equally peaceful, yet they have led so many thru d valley of the shadow of death. The jehovahs witness is a Christian cult, a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Which is designed to lead all its members to d lake of fire

OkCornel:
Nope, I’m not putting any limitations on God. Absolutely not.

God the Father (the uncreated one) is not the Son (the first born of all creation)

Basic principle, very basic. You cannot be uncreated and be the first born of all creation at the same time. A father and a Son are two literally separate entities.

The last time I checked. The Son prayed to the Father. The Son was exalted, glorified and is on the right hand side of the Father. The Son is not the Father. You don’t understand what “ONE” means.

Please explain 1 Corinthians 11 v 3;

But I want you to realize that the [b]head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God
[/b]
Dear sir, are you trying to tell us Christ (the Son of God) is the head of himself?

It clearly tells us the head of Christ (son of God) is God (the Father)

PeaceJoyLove:
Hmmm! Thanks for the response. You quoted the service of man to widows, old people, and orphans. What do JWs do in this area? I am trying to get it cos these people have separated themselves seriously. Do they do any service to humanity?

BassReeves:
JW don't really value tertiary education.

Vickyvice:
I have already made it clear time and again. My Religion isn't a cult, but if you want these gods of men to sway you, its your opinion. I don't force people to accept truth. I only show them and secretly pray they understand it sooner. U haven't Read about verse on resurrection I showed you, whilevu are quick to attack and disprove parts that support end to miracles, healing

Kobojunkiee:
**1
From where I sit, your cult is no different from the other cults/churches out there. So you may want to stay away from criticizing others here

**2
Now get back to the point here, I asked you of the words of Jesus Christ and you posted from Paul's letter in response.

GeneralDae:
ok let me ask you this simple question: Are Jehovah witnesses the only set of people qualified for Paradise?

I have told you before that the Buddhist religon is peaceful and is now all over the world. It teaches peace and non violence. The Buddha also taught the 8 parts to enlightenment, go look them up. The Western World today are embracing Buddhism like never before and it is still spreading. Immediately so many from the West embrace it in full, it would definitely spread to Africa and Southamerica. So what would you say then?

Krismas:
The Jehovah’s witness is a group of misguided Christian cult slapped together by a legally affirmed charlatan by the name Pastor Taze Russell. The group since inception has been known to predict the end of the world 5times starting from 1945 with outstanding failure. They have a bible translation copied from the work of two damned non-believing professors who saw the Bible as another antique literature. A bible long rejected by scholars for its huge margins of error. In real life, I have only met one good member! The rest have all been hypocrites and secret cultist