Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 1:11am On May 17, 2025 |
TenQ: And you keep on SWEARING!
Even after knowing the full meaning of what you said!?
Indeed, By their fruit they are known!
You can't learn because humility is far from you. You can't know because you are not of Christ! Self appointed self righteousness. Holier than thou attitude. Gate keeper of.......  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 1:08am On May 17, 2025 |
achorladey: You wonder how come ex members of Jehovah's Witnesses will readily attack a kingdom hall if indeed if everyone is a Jehovah's witnesses the world will be peaceful.
In reality ex members are products of Jehovah's Witnesses too at one time Which kingdom hall achorladey done do am?
You see your life?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 1:03am On May 17, 2025 |
Emusan: Jesus has come Jesus has began to rule. 2 These are the fact you can't deny based on Watchtower . Facts based on your Bible you don't study... @Revelation 12:7-9,12. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. Jesus will rule in the midst of his enemies after he has driven them out of heaven & he's in power according to the Command of his Father, Psalms 110:1-2. "Woe for the earth" are the issues marking the last days @ 2 Timothy 3:1-7,13 & Luke 21st chapter "Nations against Nations, pestilence etc. Emusan: So, why has disciples of Jesus still dying when they are not supposed to die when Jesus will come and begin to rule as you claimed earlier?
Is the question you haven't answered.
Until then you'll be given tutorial on that. Because Jesus is yet to fulfill Matthew 6:9-10, Revelation 21:1-5, his disciples are not immune to the viscititude of life that affect everyone in this sinful world. Remember the promise Jesus made to Martha @ John chapter 11. Jesus action at Revelation 19:13-18, Revelation 16:14-16, marks the turning point to the fulfillment of Matthew 6:9-10, Revelation 21:1-5 , John 5:28 & Isaiah 35:1-6 etc. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 12:45am On May 17, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So you mean that our purpose of being on earth is to be destroyed with the earth due to climate change?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 12:39am On May 17, 2025 |
Love800: Mine is heaven and hell. Atleast heaven and hell is more suitable to the ears compared to when you say someone will not die but remain on earth! Did God make provision for Adam to dwell in heaven? If Adam wasn't disobedient, would he go to heaven?
Matthew 6:9-10 is at the very pivot of Jesus teaching about heaven and earth.
You know that Jesus Christ inherited a name @ Hebrew 1:4.
That is how the meek he said would INHERIT the earth. Emphasis on the Jesus expression "INHERIT the earth " Please ponder what it means . |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 12:36am On May 17, 2025 |
Love800: Yea, mine is misleading to me too. But theirs is uniquely different. We are going to reside on earth, and not face death, living happily forever inside planet earth. This is from their(Jehovah witness) preachings. Very ridiculous! Jesus Christ said it's not ridiculous, Matthew 5:3,5.
I no know anybody who lived on earth that is more perfect than Jesus Christ. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 12:33am On May 17, 2025 |
Kobojunkie: 1. A cultish way of life is what agrees with you? You may be shocked to realize you may already be living one of those without even realizing it. You know what they say, "The grass is greener on the other side of the fence." Only, your side of the fence may not be much different from the other side. 
2. Can you prove your current teachings are not equally "misled"? 
3. Are you able to explain to us how much saner your own denominational belief is when compared to this other denominational belief?  Person wey no get liver to step out of his house & go shopping mall on monthly sanitation days @ 7am to 10am . Person wey go close him shop every Thursday to do clean up wey business owners dey do,nah dem dey claim say another person dey cult just because the person dey follow rules wey him prefer.
Nah dem wan give another person their own personal rules. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 12:24am On May 17, 2025 |
TenQ: Micheal An Angel of God is the Resurrection and Life!? Yes. Revelation 19:13-17, Matthew 25:31 & 1 Thessalonians 4:16, Oga is Jesus Christ the Commander of angels in battle?
Acts 3;19-23, is Jesus Christ a prophet?
John 7:16, is Jesus Christ a Messenger/angel?
Jesus Christ is an apostle, Tenq that's your assignment to find out the verse in your Bible. 
Any assignments wey him Father give am, he dey do am very well.
Just come over now and throw your tantrums.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 12:17am On May 17, 2025 |
Maximus692: According to Revelations 12:7-12 Jesus' reign which began in heaven means woe for the earth but he will later extent his rulership to the earth. I believe it's not difficult to understand if you sincerely pay attention to that account!  Emusan Bible no get Psalms 110:1-2 & 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 or Matthew 6:9-10.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 12:14am On May 17, 2025 |
Emusan: Which you strongly proved to him by claiming "...disciples who happens to be alive when Jesus comes to start his government will never die again"
The same you believe that Jesus has COME and started His government since 1914.
Yet, many JWs keep dying including the founder C.T Russell.
Is that not conflicting teachings? Jesus said the believers will never die. You see am for your Bible? Why is Emusan WAILING?
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Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 12:12am On May 17, 2025 |
Courz: You can see that the Op is afraid of your doctrines. How come? If nothing is wrong with your Cult, why will a stranger be afraid of it? Something that originates from God, people shouldn't be afraid of it. There is No Fear in Christ. Fear comes from Satan. Your attempt to try to dissuade him from knowing your Cult is a Red Flag and it is proving me right.
The Op being afraid is the Holy Spirit working. The gift of discernment. You Jehovah's Witnesses don't have that gift because your JW Leaders do not work with the Holy Spirit. You know that it is forbidden to investigate your Cult. Now that he has freedom, before that freedom will be taken away from him, he has to know everything about your Cult. And you will not stop him. Love800, take note. Jeremiah the prophet was afraid to preach. Likewise Jonah the prophet ran away from his preaching assignment.
JAH will ginger him at his appropriate time. Ogechi ka nma. No be new thing, WAILING WAILERS.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 12:06am On May 17, 2025 |
Courz: Exactly. You forgot to add that Jehovah's Witnesses will be in charge of cleaning up all the dead bodies of the millions that Will be destroyed by God apart from them. They will take over their Mansions and their Governing body will assign to each of them where they will live. Take note: They do not have the freedom to choose where they will live. Their Governing body will assign to them where they will live. Love800, take note. Revelation 19:13-18 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small"Courz go dey pretend as if he knows God or study his Bible.
Avba bua !!!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 11:56pm On May 16, 2025 |
Ken4Christ: Be asking for the name he declared until you enter hell. My Lord Jesus called him Father most of the time and I follow in his footsteps. Mark 12:29-30 "Yeshua said to him, "The first of all the commandments: 'Hear Israel, [i]THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, he is One.' " 30"'And you shall love THE LORD JEHOVAH your God [/i]with your whole heart and with your entire soul and with your entire mind and with all your power.' This is the first commandment"
Oga, follow the footsteps of Jesus Christ & call his Father LORD Jehovah which Jesus copied from the old testament Tetragrammaton.
Please,Don't deceive yourself.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 11:48pm On May 16, 2025 |
Truthseeker10, good evening Sir. I greet you Sir. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 11:42pm On May 16, 2025 |
NairaLTQ: But, just like satan, they cannot help but mix lies with these truths, like Jesus is Angel Michael! Contrary to Heb 1:4 and Heb 1:5 and Heb1:13 @Hebrew 1:5, which of the angels did God ever say: "[i]You are my son. Today I have become your Father? @ 2 Samuel 7:13-14 & Psalms 2:7 that expression was first applied to king Solomon. Does that mean that other Israelites are not sons of God except Solomon? Definitely not!Jesus Christ is an angel, the son of God. Angels are called "sons of God", Job 2:1, Psalms 8:5. Hebrew 1:4, Christ INHERITED a name , ANOINTING greater than other angels,sons of God just as Solomon inherited anointing greater than other Israelites.. NairaLTQ: Jesus is "a god"!
Contrary to Jn1:1. No Sir. Jesus' "the Word is a god" is very correct @ John 1:1. @John 10:34-36, Jesus himself said so. God's sons are gods. Jesus his Father's Son is a god. Psalms 82:6. NairaLTQ: All other things were created by Jesus ! Contrary to Colossians 1:16-17 [/i] No Sir. Colossians 1:15, Jesus is the first born of every creature Eve is the last born creature, the woman @ 1 Corinthians 11:3, that is the hierarchy structure ordained by God. Study Genesis account of creation & receive the sense that Eve is the last born of every creature.
Also, Jesus himself spoke @ John 5:26-27 to validate Colossians 1 15, Jesus said: John 5:26-27 26 "For just as the Father has life in himself, thus he has granted the Son to have life in himself, 27 and he has granted the Son authority to execute judgment,
The key expression in John 5:26-27, "God has GRANTED the Son the first born to have life in himself " just as "God GRANTED the Son to have authority to judge" Whom did Jesus judge when God had not granted authority to Jesus? None !
Hebrew 1:2 "God created the Universe through his son" Whom did God use Jesus to create when Jesus had no life in himself? None! .  JW's stand with the Bible.
NairaLTQ: This is You and your masters! When satan spoke to Eve, did he speak 100% lies or he mixed truth with lies?
Gen 3:4-5: "And the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die: For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
Same pattern after their Oga at the top Mr Satan! Same with you.
Explain Why you told lies about Mat 16:18 ? As You are just repeating your lies instead of using your lying master's explanation of Mat 16:18 Oga, go and study your Bible very well. Immortal soul doctrine is Satan's lie embedded in Genesis 3:4-5. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 10:54pm On May 16, 2025 |
Ken4Christ: The devil is laughing at you. You are his lawful captive. A sure candidate of hell. A son of perdition. Oga gate keeper of wetin you no know. Do you even know the meaning of perdition? Your hell had never been a place of perdition. STOP throwing tantrums on this forum.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Love Jehovah Witness, But Am Afraid Of Their Preaching! by Janosky: 10:31pm On May 12, 2025 |
TenQ: They are the same as far as I am concerned. Both are willing to Bend their Scripture to align with the consensus of their Scholars (for Muslims) or the consensus of their Governing Body (for JWs)
Both are willing to Ignore the Truth if it doesn't align with their consensus Bot are Willing to tell lies to support their flawed consensus. Both Reject the Nature of Christ and the Holy Spirit.
Only difference, Muslims incorporate violence JW are less violent Person wey him mentors ADDED 3 persons to 1 John 5:7 , ADDED "God" to 1 Timothy 3:16 to "Bend the scriptures" is accusing another person of "bend the scriptures."
Oga, abeg rest. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:22pm On May 12, 2025 |
QuinQ: English don hard our boy o. Addressing somebody is not same as talking about the person. Peter addressed Jesus as "Son of the living God" If he were addressing Moses he'd have said "You are servant of the living God" Besides, this was something as remembered by someone, then passed along person to person until it reached the person decades later who finally wrote it down, then it was severally translated and modified. Error could have crept in at any moment. That's why you can't cherrypick the Bible. It has to be taken as a whole
Funny thing is, you write all this yet you accept that Jesus is THE Son of God and was with God b4 creation, YET you still try to equate Him with Moses and others! Peter the apostle equated Jesus with Moses. Acts 3:19-23 is the evidence Peter the apostle confirmed. You pretend as if Acts 3:19-23 is missing from your Bible.
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:17pm On May 12, 2025 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:05pm On May 12, 2025 |
Gabrielshow24: 1. If only you ended up making sense🤧. The angel of the lord is simply "divine messenger", how you lots with "divine foolishness" concerted that "Jesus is Michael" is really burdensome? Such logical leaps would cause many tree-leaping monkeys to die of shock! 👀
2. Also, we have been through this over and over again. Each time you fail to answer basic questions🤨, any one that sees this will think you are onto something but upon deeper analysis you end up "equating the spirit of trees to angels"🤨— that's saying something 😅. If you don't have a handle on the definition of "angel"🤨 then it becomes rather obvious how such diabolical misrepresentations are the order of the day in your congregation! My bad, organization 😔!
3. As a reminder, kindly tell all if Jehovah can do something of his own will by himself👀? We will sincerely like to hear from the 'gleeful' elder🤨. 1. You ,Gabrielshow24, are entitled to your rants. Joshua 5:13-14 & numerous Bible commentaries on both verses confirmed the fact that Jesus Christ is an angel Commanding his Father's army. Your rants changes NOTHING.  2. Gabrielshow24 is fond of making assumptions & FALSE claims he has no evidence to ever prove.
3. Gabrielshow24,Kindly provide evidence that Isaiah 6:8 & Revelation 1:1 is missing from your Bible. In both verses did God Almighty "do something of His own Will by Himself? Pls allow your brain to function. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 9:49pm On May 12, 2025 |
QuinQ: Suddenly you no longer pay attention to tense used. HE SAID "I AM" NOT "I WAS"!!! Same "I am" God told Moses was His name. Same great "I Am"! No Sir. Both the Greek Septuagint of Exodus 3:14 & the Masoretic Text reads "I will be"/ asher ehyeh asher. To claim that Greek "I Am" is the same as Hebrew "I will be", is very ridiculous & baseless.
Besides, it amounts to claiming that "Olaniyi" in Yoruba meaning the same thing as "Olaniyi " in Igbo. The meaning is very different like North from South.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 11:07am On May 12, 2025 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:58am On May 12, 2025 |
QuinQ: OK, and you say he's exactly like Moses. Is Moses also Archangel Michael? And how about John the Baptist? Remember he also came from heaven Moses and John the Baptist, each of them is an angel too. If you care to study the meaning of Aggelos,go ahead..
Ignorance is not an excuse anymore.
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:51am On May 12, 2025 |
QuinQ: Another one is that he is exactly like Moses. I don't know who comes up with this stuff for them Acts 3:19-23. As God revealed Matthew 16:13-17 to Peter, God also revealed Acts 3:19-23 to the apostle. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:49am On May 12, 2025 |
Gabrielshow24: The 'sheepish narrative' they have cannot clearly define the concept "God" hence they have a problem with Jesus being God🤕. Which makes them conflate identity with nature🤔.
The narrative JW have is that Christ is an angel, noticeably Michael 🤔; now they run into problems very quickly! Without even using scriptures just basic logic they have problems reconciling the preeminence of Christ over the rest(angels). A certain elder from them decided to create the first set theory 👀(Primus conventus) which states that these 'archangels' were the first set of angels to interact with God👀, which also runs into another problem because it assumes that Angels were not made at the same time or they were made in batches😀—A lovely fallacious reconciliation with the scripture, ' all things were made by Jesus' yet this theory falls flat🤕, very flat, Indeed! Upon deeper analysis.
Also, the law of non-contradiction 😂 doesn't favor their narratives 🤧. The character of Jesus on earth conflicts greatly with the warlike dispositions of Michael 👀— which will warrant men to call Jesus an hypocrite for encouraging peace🤔 while he didn't 'turn the left cheek' in heaven👀.
This also squashes their absolute statement of "No true christian will take up arms". In all, it reduces their conclusion to a mere false Equivocation! You could also say, 'Why didn't they say Jesus is a winnowers fan because he was written coming with one?'😁 As a subtle reply to their 'coming with the voice of an Archangel' rhetoric🤧 and to finish it off, you can totally squash their allusions by using the extreme of their argument —seeing it is centred on 'Jesus being an angel'—to conclude that God, himself, is a messenger of himself😂 which they can never have a rebuttal for. Any response from them will be met with simple questions and they will be forced to either evade or avoid these questions, totally!
All in all without typing too much because of this despot of a bot😂. You get the gist. Your opinion is unscriptural. Oga, REMOVE Revelation 19:13-16 ,Matthew 25;31 & 1 Thessalonians 4:16 from your Bible nau. 
When your fellow Trinitarians have written extensively on Joshua 5:13-14 that Jesus Christ is the angel Commanding the Army of Yahweh his Father.
Was Jesus making peace when he overturned the tables of traders in his Father's temple?
Your fellow Trinitarians in the screenshot don't buy into your narrative. The same ghost deity taught them Jesus is archangel Michael.
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:34am On May 12, 2025 |
QuinQ: But you believe Jesus said he was one with God, and that once you've seen him you've seen God. Who else has said anything close to that in Jewish history, and how far is that from saying he's same as God? John 14:24 is Jesus expression explaining for your bolded comment.
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:31am On May 12, 2025 |
QuinQ: You believe Jesus existed before Adam (just like he told the Jews) and therefore came from heaven, and believing that, here's what you wrote:
"So whoever comes from heaven must be one of those living there either God or angel and in this case Jesus didn't claim he was an angel rather God's Son which makes him divine so to speak." Every being sent from heaven to minister on earth is an angel.
The screenshot evidence says it all.
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:29am On May 12, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Please can you quote where highlighted is found written in the Bible? Thanks in advance!  God the son was invented by men. Son of God in Bible is not the same as God the son. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:22am On May 12, 2025 |
Emusan: The person who is trying to equate Moses with Jesus already claimed that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD which means Jesus is the ONLY ONE directly created by God Himself.
Then ask yourself how can Jesus whom Jehovah Himself created directly can have equal or be like Moses?
Then you'll know where the confusion is coming from. Acts 3:19-23, because Jesus Christ would perform the function similar to Moses.
Did God save disobedient Israelites who refused to listen to Moses? No.
Acts 3:19-23, Will God save disobedient people who refused to listen to Jesus ? No . |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:15am On May 12, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Sorry, i hate arguing aimlessly when the scriptures has spoken! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9  Very grand response.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:13am On May 12, 2025 |
Emusan: I love this.
So is the Father divine or not? Oga, why do you pretend you don't understand the screenshot? Read this screenshot for the next 24 hours until it sticks firmly...... 
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Janosky: 10:09am On May 12, 2025 |
Emusan: Yes! I have and that makes me and my father to be human.
No! You're lying.
The Nature of God makes Him different from others.
One aspect of God's nature is "UNCREATED"
Are angels UNCREATED?
Reason why you can't provide just single screenshot as evidence since  Is God a Spirit? Yes.
Are angels Spirits having a Father? Yes.
Is Jesus a spirit having a Father? Yes.
Definitely,all of them have God's nature. Man was created in the image and likeness of God. Therefore,Man too has God's nature but man is mortal infested with sin. But God our Father is not mortal.
Emusan use your brain.
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