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Emusan:
So Rutherford didn't promote the worship of Jesus Christ bah?

Does worshipping of Jesus Christ an act of idolatry or not?

Does that means those who claimed to be Christians since the departure of the Apostles till the time of Russell who are worshipping Christ and holding unto the doctrines JWs now term as pagan practices are actually doing the right thing until Jehovah decided to change that teachings many years later?

So if it's that so, when was the change of not WORSHIPPING Jesus Christ start and stop, and when was Jehovah made the worship of Christ and idolatry?

Matthew 4:10. Matthew 10:32-33.
Revelations 3:5,12.
Emusan judge for yourself.

achorladey:
Let me REPHRASE the above again....

Like you use to say CHURCHGOERS who had a FAULTY UNDERSTANDING of HIS teaching about GOD(TRINITY), are they Still in the LIGHT?

Your response will be EPIC. Read well before RESPONDING?

Achorladey KNOWS the difference is clear between Jesus followers/Jehovah's witnesses...
Jesus followers/Jehovah's witnesses listened to Jesus corrections of their faulty understanding of Scriptures....

Since the Council of Nicaea, have churchgoers or Christendom corrected their FALSE doctrine of Trinity and stick to the truth revealed by Jesus Christ?

No DECEIVE yourself joor

The evidence is there for everyone to see....

Emusan:
Yes my thought provoking questions are:

By Definition
Directed by Holy Spirit = Inspired

The Bible
Directed by Holy Spirit = Inspired
Infallible (no errors)

Watchtower
Directed by Holy Spirit =/ Inspired
Fallible (contains errors)

Do you agree with this?

If God allow Russell and his pagan team to worship Christ and died as an idol worshippers, do you think I as a Trinitarian won't be part of heavenly one?

What criteria does Russell and his team become part of the heavenly one and you who didn't worship Jesus nor promoting other pagan doctrines don't have?

You believe Muhammad deceived the Muslims by marrying many wives but only allow Muslims to marry just four wives, then isn't it a brainwash that Russell and his team who worshipped Christ and promote different pagan doctrines that Jehovah detests will be part of the heavenly ONES but you who is more faithful than them and didn't do what Jehovah detests will only be rewarded with earth?

Jesus Christ disciples were directed by holy spirit?
Were they perfect and infallible?

You no read where Paul and Barnabas were quarrel over John Mark?

Emusan:
Russell worshipped Jesus till he died, Rutherford worshipped Jesus till he died and many JWs.

So are they Idol worshippers or not?



It's only the lying organization that pulled that out to deceive people like you no scholars as ever said prov 4:18 is a prophecy of CHANGE IN DOCTRINES.



I'm very sure you don't see the implication of this, that's why you have to make your God a liar.

The truth is God will never give His glory to a MERE creatures.



But the pagan Russell and his team who worshipped Christ are the true followers of Christ.

Rutherford worshipped the God and Father of Jesus Christ, no DECEIVE yourself.

Jehovah is a God of Positive Change, in His Infinite mercies, Emusan was never born with complete set of teeth in his mouth...

Before Noah , Jehovah's servants were not meat eaters. Why ?
Genesis 9:1-4, Jehovah ordered a Change.
Genesis 2:1-24, Jehovah had no arrangement for Jesus Christ coming to earth for man's redemption.
However, after the fall of Man , Jehovah ordered and Engineered the Change...
Do you want more?

MUMU Emusan Pagan pretending to be following Christ wey him no know....
positive CHANGE is constant, no dey DECEIVE yourself

achorladey:
When SHOWN their mode of operation they feel bitter, but they QUICKLY jump on mode of operation of OTHERS and used it as a means to RAISE their ORG up above the OTHERS

For example 1. God don't need an ORGANIZATION....... Russell. +/- 20 years later God needs an ORGANIZATION one of kind that everyone on earth OWE SALVATION to........Rutherford.



Example 2: Romans 13: 1 talks about Governmental authorities............. Russell. +/- 20 years later Romans 13:1 talks about only JEHOVAH and Jesus.........Rutherford. +/- 20 years later Romans 13:1 means government authorities......


The reason you stated Do you think if the Apostles have operated the way watchtower did, you can still trust their writings?

How can ONE call the ABOVE a case of LIGHT getting brighter. It looks a case of a SWITCH. Light Going ON and OFF.

As those BIBLE STUDENTS soon found out, however, it can be ONE THING to learn what the Bible teaches about a certain DOCTRINAL SUBJECT but quite another to DISCERN CORRECTLY the meaning of a BIBLE PROPHECY..............If we focus on only one aspect of the PROPHECY and ignore the rest, we may draw the WRONG CONCLUSION.

When ONE is taught what is WRONG or NOT correct. Can that PERSON be said to be in the LIGHT?

John 16:16-19, Jesus Christ followers had a faulty understanding of his teachings, were they still in the light?

Emusan:
I'm just showing how stupid and nitwit you are.

So why didn't the mod you called banned me?

You cried to mod when you're stupidly spamming my mention which is also against NL rules yet thinking it should dance to your favour.

The same way you people will be condemning other people without looking at the log in your own eyes.


Hypocrite!!!

Confirmed LIAR dey DECEIVING himself..

So, your DELUDED brain dey tell you a man is stupid after you shamelessly ADD your FRAUD comment to his original post....
Wetin Musa no go see for gate ?

Come and take Panadol,
"God in the flesh dwells with man FRAUD EXPOSURES still dey give you sifia pains

Emusan:
The light getting brighter NOT that the LIGHT KEEP4 CHANGING...

Besides, Prov 4:18 isn't a prophetic verse if you read with open mind.

Jesus Christ added MORE KNOWLEDGE not that they believe LIES

Whatever RUSSELL and his team of pagan worshippers died as a pagan. So they're the most deluded pagan worshippers.

WAYO Emusan mouth and DELUDED brain DECEIVE am he imagine Russell worships idols like himself and him triune pagan deity devotees

Emusan, that day light at 5:00am gets brighter at 10:00am, it's POSITIVE CHANGE


Proverbs 4:18 The light getting brighter and more brighter ,it's POSITIVE CHANGE.....

Practical Example...
Isaiah 42:18, "I am Jehovah, that is my name! I will not give my glory to another ...."

John 17:17, Your word is Truth".

John 17:24, "Father,I want those you have given me to be with me and see my glory,the glory YOU have given me before the creation of the world"

Emusan GRAND DELUSION concludes that Jesus and his Father are liars whereas, the light of truth gets brighter given us better understanding of Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:17,24. (See John15:15).
John 18:36 Jesus testify, bear witness to the truth, Emusan circumcise your heart and ears..

Emusan triune Pagan deity devotee pretending to be following Christ.
TUEH. !!!!

Emusan:
See this clown....

I supposed to report you for spamming my mention but I didn't.

So you're now crying to mod for deliverance, your pain never starts.

Emusan you no get liver, go ahead and report.....

Righteousness89:
Whoever you meet is not my concern!

My Concern is to tell you the Truth!

What truth ? Can you Show us where the OP said he said he sold himself out for bread , cucumber and pottage?

Righteousness89:
My Brother, you have a Touching Testimony but the Truth is if Heaven is your Pirioty , you will Accept JESUS CHRIST as your Lord and Savior..

JESUS Christ is Coming .. so don't sell your soul for bread , cucumber and Pottage..

GOD BLESS U

If the OP had said he came to your gods of men business centres , you won't put up that comment.

duro4chang:
It happens every where.I have seen people who left Deeper Life for Redeem and vice versa.The reasons they gave were similar to what you said.I bet it one day you will see what will disappoint you in where you are now. I have many reasons to leave my church but I said no. The most important thing is to know Jesus not the church or members.
The Bible says 'Looking into Jesus the author and finisher if our faith..

Jesus Christ says it's NOT enough to know only Jesus , something else is required. John 14:1. John 17:3.
Shalom

Emusan:
At least you didn't deny that your founder Charles Taze Russell and his team died as a pagan worshippers.

Emusan PHAT LIAR.
I NEVER said that LIE you shamelessly typed up there..

If you are not a PHAT LIAR you would Never superimpose your FRAUDULENT comment and attribute that comment to Janosky.

Cc:
OAM4J, Emusan violated Nairaland Rule no8.
The Screenshots speaks for itself...

Emusan:
By the same FRUIT we're IDENTIFYING your false religion

That's why the LIGHT IS GETTING BRIGHTER you know...



When even your deluded organization BOLDLY says "Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food." Watchtower 2017 Feb p.26

Yet living in delusions of most PERFECT people on earth.

Knowledge is progressive , Proverbs 4:18, "the light must get brighter", ONLY FOOLS FAULT IT...
Luke 24:45-48, Jesus Christ opened up the minds of his Followers fully to grasp the meaning of the Scriptures".
Jesus Christ ADDED more Knowledge to what he had taught them before and corrected their misunderstandings of Scriptures. Luke 24:21-27.

Come & see Emusan hypocrite "identifying false religion"
Since he knew Luke 9:30-35 CONFIRMED his "John1:1,14, Jesus is God dwell in the flesh FRAUD, did Emusan ever admit his WAYO belief is a FRAUD ?

Emusan:
The fact that Russell and his team died as a pagan worshippers proves that watchtower society has no connection with Almighty God.

And many Muslims have seen the light in midst of Trinitarian

Can you deny that?

PHAT LIAR..

Emusan Grand DELUSION! .
Your triune pagan deity came down to earth ,whereas Romans 8:3 and John3:16-17, God sent his son in the likeness of men to die for Man's redemption.
Triune pagan deity worshipper dey claim Almighty God wey HIM NO KNOW.

Triune pagan deity devotees get ZERO connection with Jehovah, the Father of Jesus Christ in heaven. Confirmento!

Emusan:
So if God's word declares RUSSELL and his team of Pagan worshippers RIGHTEOUS, why are you giving yourself unnecessary headache? After all the same God's word will declare Trinitarian RIGHTEOUS.

Emusan Triune pagan deity devotees DECEIVING himself since 19gbidigbidi.
Jesus Christ dey live with him Father in heaven.

Revelations 14:1. Revelations 3:5,12, Jesus Christ in heaven Says he no KNOW YOU triune pagan devotees !

Revelations 3:5
Like them, the one who is victorious will be dressed in white. And I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but I will confess his name before My Father and His angels.

Revelation 14:1
Then I looked and saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion.... with his Father's name written on their foreheads"

Revelation 3:12

"Him that overcomes will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God"

achorladey:
You know it's FUNNY when you sometimes SAY some should go and do more Sunday school LEARNING. Even if it is not SUNDAY school at least an OPPORTUNITY for them to take second,third look about what is SHOWN. To really see where the DISCUSSION is headed. But BOAST, ARROGANCE, applying LABELS and NAMES will not allow. Zeal to ACCUMULATE religious MEDALS and TROPHY is THEIR GOAL.

As captured in one of the POST above they are still not GRATEFUL enough that YOU bring to their NOTICE about how they are IN CLEAR CONTRADICTION with what the organization they are members of TEACH them. Were you a FELLOW JWs like they are, it will not be out of PLACE to call these ONES apostate like they do on any JWs not in SYNC with whatever they POST.

I believe the lesson was well passed only don't EXPECT GRATITUDE from them. The three post above this clearly TELL the STORY

Achorladey HYPOCRITE !
That is all it takes to fault JWs on the matter of Jesus transfiguration, whereas the fact is OBVIOUS that Greek horama is not always reality in every instance it occurs in the holy Bible.

Achorladey no get liver to tell his friend that his DEMONIC Trinity DELUSION have been exposed, Achorladey has confirmed himself to be a HYPOCRITE
Emusan fear that man posing as your friend who will not tell you the Truth about your demonic Trinity GIBBERISH

Emusan:
You got it!

Look at the first commenter, he stylishly says my point 1-3 is CORRECT, no wahala.

He went back, to edit it to 1-3 MAYBE CORRECT but unfortunately for him, his fellow deluded brother has quoted the post which won't change.

Shame couldn't let him say boldly that I'm correct, their deluded brother is wrong.

Meanwhile, they are the same people who hide behind keyboard cheering their deluded brother about his lies of reality Vs vision.

There is much in pride, no wonder they took after their father the Devil.

Your position about horama is correct , on this matter of Jesus transfiguration, no wahala.
Vision is NOT always reality, that fact is OBVIOUS.
My brothers will learn a thing or two therefrom.



However, you unwittingly brought out the ammunition to nail the coffin of your John 1:1,14 FRAUD, the DEMONIC doctrine popular in Christendom.

We now have another strong EVIDENCE that Trinitarian John 1:1,14 is HOGWASH !
LUKE 9:34-35 ..2Peter1:17,18 Yahweh said so.....

34 While he was speaking, a cloud appeared and covered them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud. 35 A voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him.”

We now know that Luke 9:35 no dey Emusan Bible.

The Word is NOT God in the flesh.
John 5:37, God did not dwell in the flesh with man.
Luke 9:35. Romans8:3 , YAHWEH says Dump your John1:1,14 Trinitarian Delusion in the Trash can.


the TRUTH remains the TRUTH....


Shalom

Maximus69:
Trust me bro!

Emusan will either disappear or start insulting you for exposing his stupidity!

My Bro you really Sabi Emusan mindset.

Maximus69:
My brother, let them go out there and make disciples for their TRINITY God!

They can't deny the fact that their TRINITY has failed to unite them as one due to the contradictions in their definition of their TRINITY God!

So let them go out there and preach their TRINITY God to get a firm hold on the same meaning before they can come and prove to those who are united in thought globally over One JEHOVAH!

If only Emusan knew beforehand this would RUBBISH his triune God came in the flesh John 1:1,14 delusion, he won't have taken this route.

Emusan:
Just notice, when they see this your post they'll shamefully hide their lying faces in the sand and pretend as if they didn't see it.

Four 4 points that article confirmed about my post are:

1. Horama is also reality.
2. The experience of Moses at the burning bush was REAL as cited by the article.
3. The account of Apostle Peter as an eyewitness was real not just mere illusion.
4. The same article said Apostle John must have alluded to that TRANSFIGURATION experience in John 1:14.

When you asked, what did John 1:14 say?

You can only read [b]"And the WORD was made FLESH, and DWELT among us,..."[/b]

This is a clear point that Apostle Paul was actually right to have written "DIVINE NATURE DWELLS IN BODILY"

1-3 maybe correct, no wahala...

If Emusan claim is true,therefore Moses and Elijah is God.

Luke 9:29-30.
"29 As he was praying, the appearance of his face changed, and his clothes became as bright as a flash of lightning. 30 Two men, Moses and Elijah, appeared in glorious splendor, talking with Jesus".

We now have another strong EVIDENCE that Trinitarian John 1:1,14 is HOGWASH !
LUKE 9:34-35 .. Yahweh said so.....

34 While he was speaking, a cloud appeared and covered them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud. 35 A voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him.”

We now know that Luke 9:35 no dey Emusan Bible.

The Word is NOT God in the flesh.
John 5:37, God did not dwell in the flesh with man.
Luke 9:35. Romans8:3 , YAHWEH says Dump your John1:14 Trinitarian Delusion in the Trash can.

Freksy:
Do you agree with everything else he said about trinity in his post you quoted?

Can you please marry trinity dogma with ACTS 2:33?

He is being dishonest and hypocritical.
Ask him to bring proof that Jesus called himself by the name we call him in this part of the world.

Freksy:
The way you analyzed his opinion on ACTS 2:33?

I wonder why everyone avoids it like poison.

This assumption is faulty and incorrect.

The fact is that The Greek word for Spirit "pneuma" (meaning ,wind, breath, spirit) is grammatically neuter.


For this reason, the equivalent English pronouns such as "it, itself,which, that" are correct and accurate proper neuter pronouns for Greek Pneuma.

** John 7:39 king James Bible
"But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)"
In most cases,the KJV gave accurate rendition but in others such as in John 16:13,the rendition is DUBIOUS.

For example, the proper neuter pronouns were rendered in Romans 8:16 says, “The Spirit itself [not himself] beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.”

Similarly, Romans 8:26 says “the Spirit itself [again, not himself] maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.”
In these cases the KJV translators correctly used neuter pronouns because the Greek word pneuma, translated “Spirit,” is neuter in gender.

Another example is Matthew 10:20, where Jesus says: “For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which [not who] speaketh in you.”

Another is 1 Peter 1:11, which refers to “the Spirit of Christ which [again, not who] was in them.” The King James Version translators did use the proper neuter pronouns in these verses.

Make una no dey DECEIVE yourselves.
Trinity is a man made FRAUD

1StopRudeness:
Now you are asking me if father is God, Jesus is God.... u sound like a Muslim... they like to argue the deity of Jesus... I’m tired... there are too many scriptures thats answers your question... even a baby christain should know this..

1StopRudeness:


Bros, u are very funny, which one is trinitarians again?
Trinity is only a word.. it’s not a doctrine...just like perfect will and persive will is a word coined out of 1 Samuel when god allowed the Israelites to have a king....which was never Gods original plan..
Trinity is just a word used to qualify or describe the unity of God the father, the son and the Holy Spirit....
equally, the Bible is also clear about the function and operation of the 3 entities being the same, they don’t antagonize each other....
..


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John 4:24, God is a Spirit" , Jesus Christ NEVER said 3 Spirits.
Dem MUMU people say "They don't antagonize each other.
If you get liver to LIE to yourself and deceive your children that 1 is 3, no wahala
Enjoy your FRAUD.

1StopRudeness:
1)

....john only mentioned this in 1john 5v7 that right from the start these 3 have existed and they are one.....is this lie.??.....

(2)
so just becos some people decided to give the unity of this 3 a name makes the entire verse a fraud....I’m still trying to get how u are calling a verse of scripture fraud... fraud to do what exactly?? Deceive people?? Collect money from them??.

(3)

As to you question that why does 1john5v7 seem different .... are they not different version meaning the same thing, why is this an issue for you.?? [/b]is that not how the Bible is??.

Let’s take it from verse 6, John spoke that Jesus came by water and blood, i.e his baptism and death...and he further said the holyspirit testified to this....i.e :
at his baptism : the spirit descended on him as a dove testifying to the word of God that this is my son....
and also his death: thru replacing Jesus by the as he promised the holyspirit would come after his death and exit...And john stressed it further in verse 7... that these 3 are one...

If u have a different view I’m all ears.....or should I say I’m all eyes..

(1).
Bros, as you can see, the first screenshot of 1John 5:1-7 has no iota of PROOF for your claim.
Why ?

(2).
Bros, can you recall I have referred you severally to the [b]Johanine Comma ?
I said earlier you can't run away from it neither can you wish it away.... The Johanine Comma is integral to this topic. You have to do the needful..
Then bring your findings about the Johanine Comma to this thread..


(3)

Bros, the 2nd screenshot screenshot is not in accord with your claim. The other versions DO NOT agree nor support the King James Bible.
Because in the words of a popular singer "something happened on the way to heaven"

1StopRudeness:
Bros, u are very funny, which one is trinitarians again?
Trinity is only a word.. it’s not a doctrine...just like perfect will and persive will is a word coined out of 1 Samuel when god allowed the Israelites to have a king....which was never Gods original plan..
Trinity is just a word used to qualify or describe the unity of God the father, the son and the Holy Spirit.... please these 3 are not the same person/ entity/ personality

The father: creator of the heavens and earth
The son: the reconciler of Man back to God
The holyspirit: God’s way of having his fullness in us at the same time everywhere, no matter how many we are. So far we believe....the father has promised this long ago from the Old Testament in joel 2v28, Jer 32v34, eze 36v27... Jesus only revealed him properly in john16...

equally, the Bible is also clear about the function and operation of the 3 entities being the same, they don’t antagonize each other. Jesus made that clear in the epistle of john again...

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Bros, if I understand you wella, you mean the Father is God, the son is God,holy spirit is God. No be so ?
Shalom

Matthew 11:27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one KNOWS the SON except the FATHER. Nor does anyone KNOW the FATHER except the SON, and the one to whom the SON wills to REVEAL HIM.

Matthew 16:13-17. John 20:17,30-31. Rev 3:12. That is what Jesus Christ has revealed about himself and his Father in heaven.

As Achorladey wise reach , he no even fit write him own Bible since those Bible verses cited above dey pain am for brain.....

Achorladey done forget say Na Governing Body write Matthew 16:13-17. John 20:17,30-31. Rev 3:12 put am inside Bible. .

You never fit practice wetin Jesus Christ followers write for Bible Na the ones we Jesus Christ NEVER write down Na you dey practice
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Ode wey dey DECEIVE himself

Onyi22:
How come everybody has forgotten so soon that she is an husband snatcher, she is now tag a good wife and mother with a happy family,..
Those who were against her when marrying prince Odiokojie are now celebrating her family with her,
In conclusion, always follow your heart and forget about people's opinion

The African mindset adorns marriage with the toga of respectability.
Behold , you are now a new creation, old sins passeth away

1StopRudeness:
That’s the problem... u are overstretchimg the issue...1john 5v7..or trinity as some people like to call it doesn’t claim holyspirit is God... where did u see this.?
Holy Spirit is a separate entity....just like Jesus is separate from God the father...
did u even read where Jesus clearly explained how he must go away so that he can send the holyspirit, who will explain all things, comfort us, reveal things to come and also give glory to him and the father.( Jesus clearly used the pronoun “he” to describe the holy sport) . John 16v5-15....
I dont know what u are even driving at... u are sounding like u are mocking scripture... saying a verse is fraud.. what’s ur proof?
Did the spirit of God tell u the book of 1 john is false..??.. u talking in a very weird way and u are not speaking like someone who wants to enlighten another... u are speaking like a condescending fellow...

U keep claiming what I dddnt say, where did I say God poured himself into himself??
Please go and read your Bible... Mayb you are one of those that equate God and Jesus as same entity... Jesus is not God the father.... so maybe that’s what’s making it difficult for u to comprehend col chap 1, that for the purpose of reconciliation, God had to give all authority to Jesus....then, thats ur problem..
Paul makes that clear in 1cor 15v27, that God and Jesus isn’t the same person... if u like call that a fraud....continue screaming fraud....
as for romans 3v8....you are the one claiming boldly that a scripture is fraud, not me

Learning NEVER stops.
Johanine Comma is one topic you can't afford to run away from....
Bros, why is 1st John5:7 KJV radically different from NIV, ISR, ASV, RSV, GNT, JB ?
This matter no be child's play......


Ooh la la !!
Does the Trinity have different versions?
Most Trinitarians do not agree with your views.
Bros, please give us your own definition of the Trinity, let's start from there.....

Shalom.

davidinchrist:
26 But you don’t believe me because you are not my sheep.
John 10:26

27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
John 10:27

33 They replied, “We’re STONING you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, CLAIM to be God.”
John 10:33

34 Jesus replied, “It is written in your own Scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people, ‘I say, you are gods!’
John 10:34

37 Don’t believe me unless I carry out my Father’s work.
John 10:37

39 Once again they tried to arrest him, but he got away and LEFT them.
John 10:39

Bros, please study your Bible John 19:7 and John 10:34-36 .

John 10:36 is Jesus reply to John 10:33 and 5:18.

John 19:7 is the Jews admitted they lied in John 5:18.

John 17:22 is Jesus explanation of John 10:30.
Amos3:3

1 Cor 8:5-6, gods exists in heaven (angels,Jesus) and earth (Men), but there is One Almighty God , the only true God in heaven and earth.
The only true God is not Jesus. John 17:3. John 20:17,30-31. Rev 3:5,12,21.
That's the point.
No be rocket science.

achorladey:
Janosky: Matthew 16:13-17. John 20:17,30-31. Rev 3:12. That is what Jesus Christ revealed.

Achorladey: And have I said it didn't REVEALED that? You want to CONSOLE yourself with BOOK KNOWLEDGE

Matthew 11:27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one KNOWS the SON except the FATHER. Nor does anyone KNOW the FATHER except the SON, and the one to whom the SON wills to REVEAL HIM.

Have you seen someone EVER say HE COMPLETELY knows Jesus Christ or do YOU think CHRIST REVEALED himself completely to us. John said SCROLLS cannot CONTAIN the things Christ Did within the countable numbers of years Jesus spent here on EARTH.

Janosky: If you were following Christ's footsteps you would know that Jesus worshipped the Only True God,who sent him John 17:3.

Achorladey: Has your unending DISCUSSION on TRINITY all this while on Nairaland SHOW that THOSE who BELIEVE in TRINITY do not WORSHIP God. At least I know they SUBJECT themselves under JESUS CHRIST.......I hope you catch the SENSE behind that.

Has their BELIEVE in TRINITY severe them from HAVING relationship with the FATHER and SON.

Janosky:STOP deceiving yourself

Achorladey: How do you Know I am deceiving myself? Your BOOK knowledge

You better go and READ Matthew 11:27 again and see who if you are DECEIVING yourself.

Those you call CHRISTENDOM have this.....

FATHER_______SON________HOLYSPIRIT

JWs________FATHER..........JESUS........ JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION

Mode of operation na him different.

Afterall like your beliefs SAYS you can't WORSHIP JEHOVAH without being ASSOCIATED with his ORGANIZATION......... that's your own TRINITY looking INTENTLY at you in the FACE.

If Matthew 16:13-17. John 20:17,30-31. Rev 3:12 is book knowledge to you, so be it..

Any belief in conflict with the Scriptures above is just pointless.

Achorladey DON'T FORGET THAT.

1StopRudeness:
How can u call yourself a christain yet claim a particular scripture is fraud ....then that means everything written or Spoken by John or said by another person that john said it is false....

You point 2 is baseless...asking me if God can be breath on man. U are just dancing around with words you are viewing literally...you are no different form niccodemus...

When Niccodemus asked Jesus how can it be possible for man to be born the second time....
Jesus went further in john chapter three to say the being born again is like the way the wind blows and no one knows where it cometh from or where it goeth....it is a mystery of God

If you don’t believe God can be breath on man, then u must not believe that God breath himself into man in genesis [/b]before man lost God through sin...

Then U must not believe Colossians 1v19 that God released all his fullness into Jesus so as to reconcile man back to him....

Then u must not believe that God can be inside a person ...

Point 1:
Bros, the truth is bitter.
"[b]Johanine comma", go and find out for yourself , STOP arguing blindly.
1 John 5:7 KJV is a FRAUD.
Your objections can NOT change the truth.


Point 2:

The BOLDED is your own theory: Yahweh NEVER breathed himself into man. Genesis 2:7.

John 20:22, Trinity claim holy spirit is God, that God breathed himself upon Jesus followers. .
Acts 2:33, you can NOT pour God into a human being, that's the point.
You wanna shift goalpost because you can't deal with it
John 4:24, Jesus Christ says God is a Spirit, you no agree. You say God Na 3 spirits.
Colossians 1:19, you are claiming God released fullness into himself... very very pointless.

Either you are lying or Romans 8:3 is lying.
Choose one..
Na waa oo
Wetin musa no go see for gate?
.... .

davidinchrist:
Okay friend, goodbye.

Shalom