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davidinchrist:
Okay friend, this is not for argument, but for you OR others who care;

Listen to the Words of Jesus Himself:

John 10:30 KJV
I and my Father are ONE.

Matthew 22:42-43 KJV
Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David.

[43] He saith unto them, How then doth David in Spirit CALL him Lord, saying,

Matthew 28:19 KJV
Go ye therefore, and teach ALL nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father (1), and of the Son (2), and of the Holy Ghost (3):

However, if you still don't agree, again okay, no problem. I don't justify myself.

Thanks,

Goodbye.

Bros , don't confuse yourself.
where is holy spirit in John 10:30 ?

John 17:22, "that they (Jesus followers) be One just as we (Father and I ) are one."
Jesus Christ says you have zero understanding of John 10:30.
1 Cor 3:6-7, Paul and Apollos (Jesus followers) are one just as Jesus and his Father are one.
John 10:30, Jesus and his Father are united, they walk together just as man and wife are one, walk together. Matthew 19:4-6.


Point 2:
Can you show us where anyone in the Bible was baptized in the name of the father, the son and holy spirit?
There is none in your Bible,no deceive yourself.

Is Tom ,Dick and Harry the same person?
Have you forgotten that Jesus Christ told you
"God is a Spirit", NOT 3 spirits ?
I know Revelations 3:5,12 and John 20:17,30-31 are in your Bible, study it diligently.

Do you agree Spiritual realm is stronger than physical realm?
There is no justification for the false doctrine of Trinity.
Jesus Christ says Revelations 3:5,12 and John 14:28. John 20:17 are immutable,irrevocable TRUTH, hammering the coffin of Trinity.


Bros, stop deceiving yourself.
Shalom.

1StopRudeness:
Trinity might not have been mentioned unambiguously but there are so many doctrines like that as well that we put together from understanding and connecting of other valid scriptures....so it doesn’t make trinity invalid.. this reason is why people say things like is cigarettes, or marijuana or transgender or cosmetic surgery mentioned in the Bible...

like the doctrine of permissive will and perfect will that was never mentioned word for word...but was clearly seen in the book of Samuel when the children of isreal asked for a king to copy the other idol worshipping nation around them....God said to Samuel, they have rejected Me with this they are asking for and it will bring evil nd oppression if one man is appointed to rule over a whole nation... which is what eventually happened and is happening today all over the world...
However, he said if the king u appoint can fear me and obey my voice,it’s all Good....So he told Samuel to anoint Saul for them which was the first king of isreal....this is also is one of the many proofs that God sometimes do not interfere with the free will he has given man...someone somewhere has to pray for God’s hand...

Back to trinity: ..
1john 5v7 clearly said there are 3 that bears record in heaven.. the father, the word(Jesus) and the Holy Spirit....

Jesus constantly spoke of the father clearly letting us know there’s is God the father..........he also spoke of him self for example john8v48-49..that before Moses ever existed he had was...
......and then he officially introduced the ministry of the Holt spirit in John 16v7 ..which had been at work from the beginning cos it’s the same holy spirit that was at work in Moses and the appointed 70 elders, same in Daniel, Isaiah etc....

so in my opinion, to say there’s a tri-divinity entity existing in heaven from the beginning of time isn’t false.....it’s right there in scriptures

Point 1:
1 John 5:7 is a FRAUD peculiar to the KJV.
Why you dey use FRAUD dey support FRAUD?
Please go and research "Johanine comma"

Point 2:
John 20:22.
….” 22When He had said this, He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.

Bros, Jesus breathed holy spirit on his followers, Can God be breathed upon a man ?

Trinity is a man made FRAUD.

davidinchrist:
Spiritual blindness is very dangerous for us; may we get light in everything:

If we would seek to follow Jesus for real, we must surely expect oppositions, rejections, insults and the likes from unbelievers and even so-called "believers".

I think it's high time we started judging ourselves instead of using our magnifying glasses to judge others.

These attitudes of Judging others have blinded us so much that even things that are clearly or BOLDLY written in scripture become a mirage.

People that do not want or believe in the Truth (Jesus) will always be ANGRY, and even try hard to KILL the Truth:

John 5:16-18 NLT

16 So the Jewish leaders began harassing Jesus for BREAKING the Sabbath rules.


17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is ALWAYS working, and so am I.”


18 So the Jewish leaders tried all the harder to find a way TO KILL HIM. For he not only BROKE the Sabbath, he CALLED God his Father, thereby making himself EQUAL with God.

Jesus is God (Second Person), and has "fulfilled/ended" the LAW so that True Worshipers would Worship in Truth and in Spirit (in Faith and Obedience).

John 4:24 KJV
God is a Spirit: and they that Worship him must Worship him in spirit and in Truth.

May we get light and not try to know better than Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

In John 5:18 , the Jews LIED AGAINST JESUS.
Jesus Christ NEVER claimed he is equal with God.
That LIE in John 5:18 is the false doctrine of Trinity.
The truth was revealed in John 19:7

"The Jews answered him, “We have a law, and according to our law He ought to die, because He made Himself the Son of God."

It's never a crime to call God your Father or say are the son of God.
Jesus statement doesn't make him equal to God.

STOP deceiving yourself.

John 4:24 "God is a Spirit".
John 17:3 , the One True God is a Spirit.
Jesus Christ says himself is NOT the One True God..
John 14:28, the Father(God) is greater than I am.
1 Cor 11:3 , God is the head of Christ...
1 Cor 3:23" You belong to Christ. In turn, Christ belongs to God"

God is not 2nd person of your fake doctrine.

** According to Informaz........

IT IS THE AUTOMATIC ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE GOD'S WORDS IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE THROUGH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

A real life story I read of will suffice.

A preacher went to Spain for a crusade. He was the guest speaker and so needed an interpreter as he could only speak English. So whenever he says something, the interpreter will interpret... It got to a point when he said something, the interpreter said nothing, so he repeated himself thinking his partner did not hear him clearly. Again the interpreter kept quiet...

Then he asked the interpreter why he's not interpreting?. .. But the interpreter said but "Sir, you are speaking our language so there's no need."


The BOLDED above is mere Fabrication. Na Big LIE..
In the holy book of Acts of the Apostles , through the power of the holy spirit, Jesus followers understood the words they spoke when they spoke in tongues.
They NEVER needed interpreters to translate what they preached to the people.

achorladey:
One thing I am familiar with concerning TRINITY here on nairaland is its UNENDING discussion there is a BLUE corner and the RED corner and you hardly see each corner throw IN the TOWEL. Those that left the matter will ONLY leave to FIGHT another day. It is ONE unending SOAP opera.

Its possible the SPIRIT that led to the development of the CONCEPTS back then is still at WORK up till TODAY. As long as ONE remembers that it was equally CONTESTED back then so it is TODAY.

I leave you with Matthew12:50 it says.....

50 For whoever does the will of my FATHER in heaven is my BROTHER and SISTER and MOTHER.”

I don't know if you have ever asked WHY didn't JESUS include the "my FATHER"?

He said he will call us HIS brother, HIS sister including HIS MOTHER but NOT Father. Have you asked WHY? Its just a THOUGHT anyway.

Finally Matthew 11:27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one KNOWS the SON except the FATHER. Nor does anyone KNOW the FATHER except the SON, and the one to whom the SON wills to REVEAL HIM.

Have you seen someone EVER say HE COMPLETELY knows Jesus Christ or do YOU think CHRIST REVEALED himself completely to us. John said SCROLLS cannot CONTAIN the things Christ Did within the countable numbers of years Jesus spent here on EARTH.

In conclusion TRINITY can be SEEN as THEOLOGICAL thought or KNOWLEDGE.

1 Corinthians 8:1-3 Now concerning food offered to idols: we know that “all of us POSSESS KNOWLEDGE.” This “KNOWLEDGE” PUFFS up, but LOVE BUILDS up. 2 If ANYONE imagines that he KNOWS something, he does not yet KNOW as he OUGHT to KNOW. 3 But if ANYONE LOVES God, he is KNOWN by GOD.

The question then is how do we LOVE. When one follows Christ footsteps he/she will surely understand what it means to LOVE God in order to be KNOWN by GOD.

Matthew 16:13-17. John 20:17,30-31. Rev 3:12.
That is what Jesus Christ revealed.

If you were following Christ's footsteps you would know that Jesus worshipped the Only True God,who sent him John 17:3.

STOP deceiving yourself.

[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89615943][/quote]
Oh lala !!
OLAADEGBU now understands that his Cult gods of men prophecy is blah blah blah blah !

Hallelujah

OLAADEGBU:
If the Bible promises good health for everyone don't you know that there are conditions to be fulfilled?

MUMU Pharisee.....
Yes nau....

"Conditions to be fulfilled in the coming year 2020....."
Your cult gods of men done use your brain fry beans..

J111333:
They should arrest that fool now before he gets his silly scam into the minds of gullible religious village women.

Musa is tired of seeing RUBBISH at the gate..

OLAADEGBU:
I know that cults and false religions equally enjoy the religious freedom Christians enjoy but that's where the free ride ends. Where they get banned your sect become unstuck, unable to hawk their Awake, Watchtower magazines, a main condition for there being saved.

SHAMELESS LIAR !!!

I won't dignify you with the truth about this barefaced LIE you blow here .

OLAADEGBU:
Would you recognise a prophecy when you hear it?

Your cult of "gods of men prophecy"
" There will be good and sound health for everyone in the coming year 2020 " Na 419 prophecy after all

KNOWMORE56:


1)
Does "oturukpeke" means " I have understood"?
Because you said Jesus received power and authority from the Father. And I said yes, but THE GIVER ISN'T ALWAYS THE BIGGER. That He received it doesn't make Him lesser, because the Father also had received something before and He's still receiving.
Human beings do give Him thanks, praise, glory, etc and He does receive them. The human beings who are the givers of these things are not greater than the Receiver( God). Oturukpeke means you understand this.

Point 2. The power and authority you said Jesus received is part of the glory of God that He categorically said He won't give to another:- Isaiah 42:cool. Can God lie? No!
JESUS IS GOD, JESUS IS NOT ANOTHER!

Point 1..
"Oturugbeke!" IS AN EXCLAMATION OF SURPRISE that KNOWMORE56 claims are not true.

Please STOP deceiving yourself.
John 14:28 is SACROSANCT in the physical and spiritual realm...

Matt 11:25. Rev4:11. Rev 10:6.Ephes. 3:14-15.
Does Jesus owes his name and existence to his God and Father,Yahweh ?
Yes !
Is Almighty Yahweh,The God and Father WORTHY of the Praise, Glory from His Creatures ?
Yes. It is His Right.

Whereas,Yahweh gave Jesus a privilege, HE anointed Jesus above his peers(Heb1:9).
John 17:24, Jesus understood it's a privilege. (Because his God and Father loves Jesus)..
John 3:16-17 God loves us too.
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Point 2:
Sorry for you,KNOWMORE.
Revelations 3:5,12 and John 20:17,Did Jesus Christ acknowledge his own God and Father in the physical and spiritual realm?
Yes !

John 17:2-3, The glory wey Jesus dey beg from his God and Father Na you dey wetin Jesus no claim !

Why would Your "God" be begging himself for the glory he already possess?

Here comes the Crushing Blow to KNOWMORE56 claim:
JESUS IS GOD, JESUS IS NOT ANOTHER!

***
1 Corinthians 15:26-28
". 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For he “has put everything under his feet.”
Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. [/b]28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all."



[b]1 Corinthians 15:26-28 Na Technical knockout

Chapter1vs6:
this is great

Know NOTHING.
Revelations 2:27,In heaven, your "God" says he RECEIVED AUTHORITY of the First and the Last (in Rev2: from his God and Father in heaven.

Your "God" is the son of his own God and Father in heaven and earth. John 20:17. Rev3:5,12.

Throway your FALSE doctrine for dustbin.

KNOWMORE56:
. KNOWMORE56: Quote Post
As for the other issue of Jesus was seen standing at the right hand of God. Many times I have noticed that people are not interested in knowing more about the different offices of this Jesus.
JESUS HAS THE HIGHEST OFFICE AND THE LOWEST OFFICE

1. In His highest office He is God


The teaching about the Trinity or it acceptance doesn't make a person to be saved. It makes those who are saved to know more about the God they are Serving and have Him in awe.
So, I give God the glory for those who have believe that Jesus Christ died, was buried and resurrected, according to the Scriptures
*. Romans 10:9-10 " if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10
KJV:For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11
KJV:For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

May God uphold your faith who have believe that Jesus is the Son of God
*. Acts 8:37 "KJV:And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I BELIEVE THAT Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

John 17:3 and John 20:17, Jesus Christ says your claim is of your own device.

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they may know you,the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ , whom you have sent"
How do you explain John 20:17 and Rev3:5 ,12 and you go dey DECEIVE yourself "in his Highest Office he is God"

* Colossians 1:19.*
"For it was by God's own decision that the Son has in himself the full nature of God"
Therefore, the Word is a god,filled with divine nature/ quality.
Every Son must have the nature /quality of his Father , even if John 1:1 call am "the Word".
No be rocket science


Where in your Bible did Yahweh call Jesus his own Father ?

KNOWMORE56, Haba !!

freshboi88:
By raping women up and down that's how u pple make peace

Freshboi88, You dey see the JUNK GIBBERISH wey pastorpreneurs Olebwoy inject into your brain ?

KNOWMORE56:
God the Son is the One who has been doing all the talking. He called Him Father, God or my God, that's ok.
We noticed that the few times the Father talked about Him, He(the Father) also called Him (the Son) God.
*. Hebrews 2:8 "KJV:But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. What I'm trying to say is that if it is the Father who has been doing all the talking, He could have called Him my God and heaven will not fall. Although my opinion.

point 2: from my own understanding, if XYZ are the CEO of a company and y called x my CEO, it doesn't make y an ordinary supplier in any case. I will only say of y that he is humble. But the Trinity is beyond this explanation.
Do you understand, Janosky?

Another thing I want to say is that ,the Father called Him Son and the Son called Him Father. This in my own understanding, the head called the hand "my hand"; and the hand in turn called the head "my head" (head, hand and other parts which make up the one body). Is like somebody wants the hand to be called the head before he will agree that they are the same one body.

1
You meant to write Hebrews 1:8, this portion of the Bible is a direct quotation of Psalms 45:6 (or Psalms 45:7 in the Masoretic Text or other Hebrew language texts of the Old testament).

The Old Testament is largely in Hebrew language.
Any rendition of Psalms 45:6 which deviates from the Hebrew original source , is nothing but FRAUD. Yes !
For example, If you author a 20 page Hebrew book , which another person translated into English, when the Translator writes something on Page 18 which is totally different from what Original author wrote, would you say the Translator's work on Page 18 Accurate?

2)
The Catholic Church has been in the forefront supporting the Trinity , please examine the Catholic Jerusalem Bible rendition of Psalms 45:6 , its the same exact rendition of the Hebrew original source of the Masoretic Text.

Then go to Hebrew 1:8, a direct quote of Psalm 45:6 ,then ask yourself:
Why would Hebrew 1:8 deviate totally from the original source quote of Psalms 45:6 ?

Confirmed FRAUD !!

Bros, Hebrew 1:8 is a FRAUD.
In that verse, Yahweh NEVER said to his Son, "Your throne oh God".

1Chronicle29:23, and 28:5, says the throne of David is the throne of God.
(Compare 2 Sam7:12-13,16. Luke 1:31-33).
Revelations 3:21 Jesus Christ confirmed himself sits on his Father's throne.
Revelations 3:21 is the same message in Psalms 45:6 which Hebrews 1:8 should really be, NOT the Your throne oh God FRAUD of Hebrew 1:8.



Shalom.

KNOWMORE56:
All the things that have been revealed to me about this great God I will post.

8. Father/Son is the first and the last:

*Isaiah 44:6 "KJV:Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I AM THE FIRST, and I AM THE LAST; and beside me there is no God" (i.e the Father)

*. Isaiah 41:4 "KJV:Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, THE FIRST, and with THE LAST; I am he.(i.e the Father)

*. Revelation 1:17 "KJV:And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I AM THE FIRST and THE LAST: (i.e the Son)

*. Revelation 2:8 "And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith THE FIRST and THE LAST, which was dead, and is alive; (i.e the Son)

*. Isaiah 48:12 "KJV:Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I AM he; I AM THE FIRST, I also AM the LAST.(i.e the Father)

Revelations 2:27, Jesus Christ says "I have AUTHORITY FROM MY FATHER".
(Compare Matthew 28:18 ), Jesus Christ says his Father and God gave him the authority in heaven and earth to bear titles we usually ascribe to his Father.
There is ZERO equality between Jesus and his God.
No be rocket science.....
Trinitarians always make fictitious claims to suit their FALSE doctrine.

OLAADEGBU:
False preachers should not be compared to Martyrs such as William Tyndale. Your organisation has made it their life time mission to undo all the work of William Tyndale by the publishing of your NWT and you will not succeed in Jesus' name!

OLAADEGBU:
If there was such a law that banishes false prophecy, JW should be top of the list.

OLAADEGBU LIENUS , keep quiet there....
Go and ban your god of men for hoodwinking you with Sweet mouth of year 2020 FALSE PROPHECIES...
I challenge you to show PROOF here that NONE of your fellow cult worshippers have fallen sick or died of any ailments since your god released his year 2020 FABLES....
Na who una wan deceive ?

Emusan:
This was your lie which I busted "Aside that, NONE of them affixed "Apostle Paul" or "Apostle Peter" to their names elsewhere in your Bible..

After this you're now grasping for air to breath....

Your balloon of lies has been punched with a tiny needle.

The truth from the scripture is that both Paul and Peter ascribed the Title "APOSTLE" to themselves.


These are the list where Bible ascribed Title to people names even including Christ Himself.

1. Jeremiah 23:9 Jeremiah himself.
2. Luke 4:17, Luke 4:27 where Christ ascribed the Title Prophet to Isaiah
3. 2 Chronicles 32:32 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Isaiah
4. 2 Chronicles 36:12 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Jeremiah
5. Ezra 6:14 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Haggai

And many more so your lies can't hold anymore.

Emusan:
01
Where is the twist in your statement



The fact is, you know that Paul and Peter attached the Title to themselves but your problem is nobody else addressed them like that.

1. This proves that you're a kangaroo that jumps anyhow because your deluded brother first claim was "Can you quote where the Bible mentioned anyone like Apostle Paul, Apostle Peter or Prophet Daniel? What you will see is an Apostle or Prophet referred to as "Apostle of Christ or Prophet/Man of God"

Which you even like and share the post!

Now, it's evident that both of you are lying liar and don't know your Bible.

2. That NOBODY ELSE addressed them as such is baseless in this regard and contradictory to this your statement "Other people in the Scriptures called them "Prophet". That's the point I am making"



So just because you met one person that acted that way means that's how all of them behave. This speaks volumes of your dishonesty.

By the way, the point here is, did Bible ascribe Title to people name or not?

Which is Yes! as you agree above an below statements.



02)
Actually, I didn't know the essence of this statement because I never referenced Jer 23:9 and I don't know the reason for using it by you.

The Bible references I cited

Isaiah ascribed the Title of Prophet to himself likewise Jeremiah so stop lying against the scripture.



This is where we're going!

Now, what do you have to say about this your deluded brother challenge?

"Can you quote where the Bible mentioned anyone like Apostle Paul, Apostle Peter or Prophet Daniel?

03)
[b]What you will see is an Apostle or Prophet referred to as "Apostle of Christ or Prophet/Man of God"[/b]

My 01)
You seem to have serious comprehension issues.. I made separate statements about the apostles and another one about the Prophets, but you lumped them together and patch them up to misquote me.... You do well .

The fact still remains:
In the Scriptures, Paul or Peter, in fact, no Apostle referred to himself as "Apostle" whenever they spoke One on one (reported speech) with fellow believers..

My 02)
LIAR.
Can you see your reference to Jeremiah 23:9?
Why you dey deny wetin you done type ?
I pray you are not high on something.....


My 03)
The screenshots you pasted gave validation to Brother Max point of view. For example, "Paul, an Apostle of Christ....." Etc That is the style for several opening sentences of the inspired Letters written by Paul...

Emusan:
Ole....

Even the verse you cherry pick proves you to be a liar!

"....And he laid his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, and the living one,..." 17-18 NWT

Jesus Himself is the FOUNTAIN OF LIFE, it's only in the deluded JWs imagination that a LIFE Himself can died.

MUMU Musings....
1Cor 15:12,13 , if Jesus no die he go resurrect?

Revelations 1:18, Jesus Christ said he died and his God raised him up from death.
Why this truth dey pain you for brain?

Emusan:
As usual they'll deny it...that's what you get when you inject personal interpretations into the scripture.

Take for instance, the Heb 1:10-12 they were ascribing to Jehovah.

But in their support for the insertion of the Jehovah in the New Testament one of their main point is that where the New Testament writers quoted from the Old Testament.

Then they say:



Look at the above statement, then compare it to fraud they did in Hebrew 1:10

The Psalm 102 that the Hebrew writer cited was translated in verse 1 asap "O Jehovah..." so which means they understand that verse is referring to Jehovah.

Then when they will translate Heb 1:10 it was "And: “At the beginning, O Lord,..."

Why not "And: At the Beginning Oh Jehovah?"

The reason they didn't put Jehovah in that Heb 1 is because the people behind their translation know that Heb 1:10 is a reference to the Son and by doing so the text will make Jesus to be Jehovah.

You can see their double standard.

Thou it's only their online e-warrior that is changing the meaning of that Hebrew 1:10 because everybody knows it was in reference to Jesus.

So called double standard exist only in the figment of Emusan imagination.

1)
Hebrews 1:1-6, 9 SHUT DOWN any attempt to ascribe verse 10-12 to Jesus Christ.
Imperfect Humans copied the manuscripts from which the Bibles were translated as we have it today. We can't rule out errors of copyists.

2)
The Masoretic Text of Psalms 102:25 has no YHWH, or anything else remotely connected to Jesus.

3)
More so ,other parts of the Scriptures,even Jesus Christ himself DOESN'T lend credence to Hebrew 1:10 (Compare Matt 11:25. Acts17:24. Deut 10:14,21).

4).
It is possible that the same mischievous way Hebrew 1:8 was twisted (but DISPROVED In the Masoretic Text) , probably birthed Hebrew 1:10 in similar fashion.

achorladey:
Another example concerning.......

But in their support for the insertion of the Jehovah in the New Testament one of their main point is that where the New Testament writers quoted from the Old Testament is the BELOW........

Look at 1 Peter 2:3 Notice that the reference source

The Hebrew Scripture quotation is found at Psalm 34:8: Taste and see that JEHOVAH is GOOD, O YOU people; Happy is the able-bodied man that takes refuge in him.

Therefore, according to the stated translation policy of the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION,

1 Peter 2:3 should read: . . . that through [the word] YOU may grow to salvation, provided YOU have TASTED that JEHOVAH is KIND. Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God.

The "LIVING STONE…REJECTED…by MEN" in this passage is most certainly JESUS.


NWT......1 Peter 2:3,4 provided you have tasted that the LORD is KIND. 4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but chosen, precious to God

Jehovah Na living stone rejected by men ?
Mr Writer, Go and write Jehovah put for 1 Pet2:3 nau....

Emusan:
That's why no New Testament scholar takes their bias translation serious because their NWT was internationally design to support their evil doctrines.

LIENUS Musing....

Emusan no dey even dey shame to blow this LIE for public forum, NWT is a Bible Translation of great scholarly repute...
The evidence is solid indeed.
However, there will always be critics.

Show PROOF where the new testament Scholars takes your 1 John 5:7 KJV FRAUD and every fraud in your KJV serious

reportminds:
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8317003/amp/Craig-Bellamy-squeezed-balls-Mark-Clattenburg-annoying-players-hes-refereed.html

The referee wey rob Chelsea and dash Man Utd 3 points that season with Chicharito offside goal at Stamford Bridge..
Mark Clattenburg sent off Fernando Torres when the striker no commit any foul against the Man Utd defender , Johnny Adams.
Clattenburg commit Robbery that day...
Fergie vs AVB in the dugout.
Clattenburg and Webb Na Siamese twins ,if you know you know... No be rocket science
I no dey forget that match

Designer123:
Early this morning (around 12:02 am), I saw this snake on my lobby close to my toilet. I don't know where it came out from but there is a hole on my toilet where I usually see cockroaches. There is also an ant hole close to the toilet door. I don't know if it came out from any of those holes.

Also, does any one know the characteristics of this snake? Is it poisonous?

Do you think the snake offspring will be in my house?

This is the first time I am seeing snake in my house (the house is 11 years old). What can I use to repel snakes around my house?

Please help, I really need to address this. There is a 3weeks old baby on the other apartment. Thanks.

Very likely this is a spitting cobra.... poisonous snake.
It's very active at night time and it's a very good climber ,it climbs walls very well..
Please search everywhere , all nooks and crannies of your house and block any holes you find.
OP, Na Jehovah God save una Ooo oo !

DriggityDre:
Hmm... Bob Marley comes to mind.

IMHO , there is some sort of connection between miscegenation and dreadlocks..... its Usually common to people whose bloodlines are an admixture of African & European ancestry, for example, Robert Nesta Marley. He is actually what we call "half caste" ,( born of a Scottish father and black Jamaican mother) in this part of the world.
Overtime, the hair of a mulattoes (half-caste) gradually gets to be dreadlocks because their hair is NEVER well combed and well taken care of.

Superstition is very strong in the traditional African mindset and worldview...

freshboi88:
Guy Beth Sarim....until u talk about Beth Sarim u r a COWARD

Beth Sarim,your whatever, dey give you sleepless nights?

Freshboi wetin be Beth Sarim?
Abi, You done run komot from Olebwoy business centres go join Judaism ?
Oga talk now make we know the next one you go join....

freshboi88:
Nah scripture I quote o.........@Janosky say scripture nah fraud. ........hahahaha.

Shey Una c how I don defeat JW. Now to bury them .

@Janosky wetin u fit tell us about Beth Sarim?

Abi u tink say we no go know?....dem no teach u Beth Sarim for Ur indoctrination house?

@Rozz do u know about Beth Sarim

@CANTICLES @Maximus69 @Barristter07 @Jozzy4 tell us about Beth Sarim

Cry me a river till the sun is no more.

Johanine comma is a FRAUD inserted into the KJV and every Translation produced from the textus receptus manuscript.
Freshboi kpele

Emusan:
See the way this deluded and ignorant somebody boycotted my post!

So if Divine nature = Divine Quality

Now it's divine nature = divine quality....this idiot is confused!

What is the nonsense that you people have been shouting since that those resurrected in heaven will have the DIVINE NATURE that Jesus Christ has?

Keep changing mouth....I'm here for you!

MUMU Emusan,
Greek Theiotēs= Divinity=divine quality= divine nature.
Divinity = a god .NWT,John 1:1 very AUTHENTIC.

Emusan Mumu..

KNOWMORE56:
[b]The giver is not the bigger in this case. Father gave the Son, and the Son received it. That He received it doesn't make Him lesser, [/b]because the Father also had received something before and He's still receiving. For example:

*. psalm106:1 "KJV:Praise ye the Lord. O GIVE THANKS UNTO THE LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever."

*. Isaiah 42:12
KJV:Let them GIVE GLORY unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands.
Others: Psalms 30:12; 35:18; 57:7
NOTE! We can see human being giving and God receiving PRAISE, THANKS, GLORY, etc. Human beings are not greater than God because of giving and receiving. thanks.

2. These things you said Jesus received are the glory of God that He said He won't give to another.
*. Isaiah 42:8
KJV:I am the Lord: that is my name: and MY GLORY will I NOT GIVE to another, neither my praise to graven images.
NOTE! Jesus is not another but God increased Himself into 3 Personalities and still remains who He is.
1×1×1=1 Almighty. That is, one multiply(increased) by one and multiply ( increased) by another one = Almighty One.

Oturugbeke !!!!

What you typed up there,is that what Jesus Christ is telling you in Revelations 3:5,12 and John 20:17?


Bros, Are you equal to your God ?
Bros, John 14:28 and John 20:17 still dey your Bible ?

John 20:17 , Jesus says "my Father, my God", in Revelations 3:5,12, Jesus says "my Father, my God", do both expressions in Revelations and John mean the same thing?

Emusan:
Your frustration won't allow you to rest, that why you keep jumping up and down as a lost soul.

It's just so unfortunate how you people keep contradicting and disgracing yourself here.



Before we continue this, answer these questions:

1. Was the LIFE, THE SON HIMSELF (even though your deluded brother has already said, the LIFE FORCE isn't the actual person)?
2. Was the LIFE conscious of ITSELF?
3. Was the LIFE has a nature that it DWELL of not?



But Divine Nature DWELL in Bodily



At least you agreed that DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN THE SPIRITUAL BODY, which actually means what that verse was talking about is that SOMETHING DWELL in BODILY not DIVINE QUALITY

Which means NWT is wrong for using DIVINE QUALITY

It's evident that you've seen this truth probably from all your trusted COMMENTARIES you've consulted.

Or let me say, can you support this your statement "Paul was not writing about Jesus Christ life on earth"

With any commentaries you know?

Anyways, this your own version not only ridiculous but keep roping you into more trouble.

Imagine DIVINE NATURE DWELLS in SPIRITUAL BODY when SPIRITUAL BODY ITSELF IS A DIVINE NATURE.

your mumu never do


So was Jesus on earth when the same Apostle Paul wrote "There is only one mediator between God and man, THE MAN JESUS..."

I wish you can copy your deluded brothers as you normally do.

God is exposing your lying mouth small small....

Mumu man , divine nature= divine quality.
Jesus is living in the spirit realm where Divine quality dwells in his spiritual body in heaven.
Receive SENSE
Mumu man, flesh and blood can not dwell in heaven.
The spiritual body in heaven is different from the physical body on earth.

On earth he was in the likeness of men and the image of God like every other men.

Mumu man, you are hereby claiming that divine nature was put to death

The Scriptures say the man Jesus was put to death but was raised into the spiritual realm with a spiritual body where divine quality dwells.
Life giving spirit is no longer a man.
Emusan receive SENSE

Emusan:
It's obvious you're frustrated and it's boldly written in your countenance....calm down!

So next time check your post well before submitting and safe me from copy and paste, if such happened again, I won't reply you.



If only if you know when the Divine Nature joined the Human Body

Which is the important of that Col 2:9





He claimed what God sent into the womb of Mary is LIFE FORCE and at the same time said THE LIFE FORCE isn't THE ACTUAL PERSON....so tell us what did the Father send?


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God transferred the life of his Son into the womb of Mary to be born in the likeness of men.
At that point, Jesus seized to exist in the spiritual realm. So says Romans 8:3.


Nobody ever dwells in both realms at the same time... NONE at ALL !

Colossians 2:9 was penned by Paul when Jesus Christ was already in heaven.
As a heavenly being living with a spiritual body , divine nature dwells in Jesus spiritual body in the spiritual realm.
Paul was not writing about Jesus Christ life on earth.

freshboi88:
But when an incredible daily publishes an unsubstantiated report about RCCG. Tht one is true. Do u see Ur hypocrisy.

Meanwhile

1 John 5
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one

Trinity stamped, signed and sealed.

Okokobioko !!!
Wayo Freshboi dey use FORGERY to defend FRAUD !!

Johanine comma is a FRAUDULENT text.

Shame on Freshboi