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Investnow2017:
When you take medication, do you break God's law? No. When apply safety measures, like wearing a seatbelt, do you break God's law? No. But if you take blood in violation of God's law, that is where the problem lies. Did you get the point. God says the only use of blood is for atonement. Any other uses aside from that is a violation of his law. And God holds us accountable if we are reckless about life.

I asked you a earlier. Do you want to know about the REAL LIFE?
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My Sister Don't mind these cherry pickers everywhere....

These people prefer to forget that another person Blood wey enter your mouth and enter your veins are the same six and half dozen

Christaks:
Cc Chatinent still waiting for your answer.

I need it for knowledge sake. Tnks.

Acts 15:28-29, "ABSTAIN from blood".
If you were my physician and gave me instruction to ABSTAIN from Coke, I went ahead to buy needles and ingest Coke, have I obeyed your instructions to ABSTAIN from Coke?

Nmezor:
Hmmmm, one church I can Neva attend even when invited. .. weird doctrines

Is Trinity GIBBERISH and hellfire SCAM not weird?
If only the scales would fall away from your eyes and you begin to see clearly....

justli:
Truth is you can argue all day or you can open up to the truth.

I'll point you to verses that undisputably point to Jesus rising in flesh.



And He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Touch Me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.” And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet (Luke 24:38-40).


Understand that he said, "for a spirit does not have flesh or bones"

That verse would have been enough to quench this conversation but no, you will try and come up with anything to support your believe.


So the Jews said to Him, “What sign do You show us for doing these things?” Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” But He was speaking about the temple of His body. (John 2:18-21)

Noticed he said, destroy this temple. And I'll raise it up again in three days. Temple here meaning the physical body of Christ.



And while they still disbelieved for joy and were marveling, He said to them, ’Have you anything here to eat?’ They gave Him a piece of broiled fish, and He took it and ate before them” (Luke 24:41-43)

He ate to prove to them that he was with them physically and of course spiritually

Jesus went to extra length to prove this point. Because he knew people would come someday to try and prove that the resurrection was only spiritual.

Again, he said, "touch me and see. For spirits do not have flesh and bone"
Unless if Jesus was deceiving the apostles by making them believe he resurrected physically when it was spiritual.

One thing you cannot argue with here is that Jesus was making effort to prove to the apostles that he resurrected physically.

The burden of false interpretation is on you and your organization

John 6:51,Hebrews 10:10, if Jesus resurrected physically, then what did he sacrifice as offering for your sins?
If you give offering for your Church, you dey collect back your offering? (Think ooo , God give you brain...)

Spirit doesn't have flesh and bone, you be flesh and bone, why you no fit appear and disappear at anytime ?
(Think about it seriously....)


Have you ever asked ,Why Mary Magdalene and the early Christians could not recognize Jesus Christ on several occasions when he appeared in their midst and spoke to them?
John 20:13-16. John 21:4.

Angels are spirit beings. Why were angels able to meet Mary Magdalene in the flesh and speak to her? John 20:11-13. Hebrews 13:2
(Use your brain and think. God help you....
If you understand that, then you will understand how Jesus appeared to his apostles in the flesh.)


1Cor15:44-47,
"The last Adam Jesus Christ is a life giving spirit"
Is that not clear enough?

1 Peter 3:18 ,says Jesus Christ was put to death in the physical realm and God raised him to life in the spiritual realm.

Peter was an eye witness of Jesus resurrection.
Was Peter LYING?
Shalom

WINDSOW:
You dont need know the Faith I belong. Tell your religious head that I said y'all hypocrites! Go tell him, I sent u. Perfect n hypocritical gathering of saints.

Wetin dey give you sifia pains like this?
You no follow your Papa drink tea with him deity this morning?

Possiblegee:
They don’t believe in miracles,they also don’t vote in elections too.

Bros, miracles and well choreographed theatrics no be the same thing....
Pastorpreneurs and Churchpreneurs dey use the best alcohol based sanitizer and facemasks.
Shine your eyes

Blackmann001:
Of a truth J. H do not believe in heaven or hell.

The OP shld stop twisting believes. They believe that heaven ND hell are already happening as those enjoying are already in heaven and those suffering in hell.... They believe That for heaven, God will wipe away all the bad people and the rest will live a peaceful happy life here on earth as the heaven...

The don't believe in the symbol of the cross. They say Jesus died on a pole ND not a cross...

On the speak on tongue... I may b confused on this as to which is Tru... But they don't believe in that

For the celebration, I think they God the concept wrong to trust more in science and archeology..... If a child choose to change his name from what his parents named him :we align with such child ND call him his nu name........ So if the people genuinely can't figure out a date of Jesus birth and death ND choose a day to celebrate those, God sees through their heart and would rightly hear their greet gs and prayers.. J. H is doing over Sabi with proving archeological facts to dis ard Christmas ND easter celebrations...

Bros, Jehovah resides in heaven. Heaven exists.

Hell is Grave, 6 feet pit for the dead. Genesis 3:19.
Hellfire scammers make una give PROOF where Adam dey for hellfire.
Hellfire is a man made SCAM to induce morbid fear& drill hole into your pockets collecting your hard earned money.

Lovelies1:
There is one more thing he didn't add which is Jehovah witness believe that Jehovah created Jesus opposing to Christian that Jesus is Lord and the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit are three in one person

Anyone who needs this PDF to clear all doubt that the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit is one should indicate

Op if you are interested to understand indicate

The FRAUD of Johanine Comma,if you know you know

wahzupguy:
Them no dey knock door again, na here them dey come now.

You go see us come preach in your area soon.

freshboi88:
Why does the NWT refer to Jesus As God in Isaiah 9:6 ?

And

a god in John 1:1

Why the confusion?.....

Strong's Greek 1510 & Strong's Greek 2316 in Acts 28:8 and John 1:1 mean the same thing = "was a god"

THE Greek grammatical construct DESTROY Trinity FRAUD yakata .
John 1:1 Greek says "the Word is facing towards the God Almighty.
The Word is NOT the God Almighty.
Because John 1:18 says "No man has seen God at anytime"
Trinitarians STOP DECEIVING gullible folks with your John 1:1 FRAUD.

Mighty God (Hebrew EL-Gibbowr meaning "Mighty One" is a title for man, Jesus, angels , deity/goddess and Yahweh.
No confusion there,no PROOF of Trinity.

ImaIma1:
Your analysis doesn't even match.

It's only JW that interpret those Bible passages that they readily cite as not donating blood. And give reasons like...it is not safe or a guarantee that the person will get well. But won't you at least try if that will save the child? Rather than watching the child die.

Besides haven't the JW organisation reversed that doctrine? Doesn't it mean that it was just a doctrine and not a clear interpretation of the Bible?

Do you really love God when you cherry pick His Laws you would obey at your convenience?

xynerise:
Holy Bible, KJV and couple of Bible versions have

" .....the Word was God"
but in Jehovah Witness Bible or The New World Translation, it says

"...the Word was a god"

Can you please explain the change?

Bros, you have to see the koine Greek interlinear to really understand the FRAUD in the KJV.

The change is from the KJV....
Many Bible Translations AFFIRM that NWT is VERY AUTHENTIC & ACCURATE.
Strong Greek 1510 (was) Strong Greek 2316 (a god ) in Acts28:6 and John 1:1 is the same meaning.

English "the Word was with God"
Greek "The Word was facing towards the God".

PROOF:
VERDICT: John 1:1 actually CONFIRM the Word is NOT the God Almighty.
The Word are the God Almighty are DIFFERENT Beings. The Word,Jesus is a god (divine nature).

Compare John 17:3 Jesus Christ says himself is NOT the true God Almighty.

Hallelujah (Praise Jehovah) the God and Father of our Lord,Jesus Christ in heaven and earth.
Ephesians 1:3. John 20:17. Revelations 3:5,12.

Can you see that the NWT is VERY AUTHENTIC & ACCURATE?

OP,
You killed a mongoose...
The only animal wey cobra and mamba dey fear.

achorladey:
Consolation consolation consolation. If you are lost on that post you better go back and check.

Since you KNOW TRINITY is their Father why judge them? Na you your God give the AUTHORITY to judge them

You no read Revelations 3:5. Matt10:32-33 and John 17:2,3?
The words of Jesus no be rocket science

Timalt:
You know the funniest thing, the jw's replying you here don't even believe they are children of God. That's how crazy their belief is. The believe that only the 144,000 are children of God or sons of God. They don't believe they are christ brothers as shown in Matthew 25. They believe only the 144,000 are christ brothers. And for them essentially the foremost part of the 144,000 are their 7 white men and 1 black man in America.

For every other jw who claims to be a member of 144,000, their choosing by God is under scrutiny as they are taught those people may have mental problems.

Back to my point, these guys here believe they are Friends of God not children of God. That is to show you how messed up doctrines are. Where in the new testament are [b] Christians called God's friends for God's sake?
The only person called God's friend was Abraham. And Abraham lived before the Christian Era. He was referenced in James 23 as God's friend.
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I ask any jw here to show us from the Bible where some Christians are God's friends?

I asked them to prove their 1919 doctrine here, not a single response.

For any body reading this who is not a jw, I would not tell you whether to join them or not, all I would say is you owe it to yourself to research independently about them before you join. www.jwfacts.com
www.jw.support
www.ajwrb.org
www.jwsurvey.org

Anybody who feels or perceives he has axe to grind with you,can NEVER tell others the truth about you.
Anything you see there, ask JWs.
A one sided claim can NEVER be very factual.
Objectivity and clarity is important.

For Church, Una no say Jesus Na una friend ?

Jehovah is my Heavenly Father, my Friend, my Secure Refuge, my Shepherd.
Deal with it.
You distort the narrative.
I fear who no fear you.

achorladey:
But you go preaching using Matthew 6:9,10 and confidently read it as OUR FATHER. Were they to ask you after reading, is that verse talking about the GOD of JWS ALONE. How will you ANSWER?

Since you know there GOD is different from your own which you state is the TRUE GOD. Did your TRUE God ask you to JUDGE them?

You done forget say Una father Na Trinity?

Na the words of Jesus Christ the Son of the True God dey judge them
Matthew 10:32-33. Rev3:5.

Maximus69:
Happy waiting Sir!

Him pastorpreneurs no dey Anointing and drink tea with their God ? Let him show the empirical evidence make we see am.
Charity begins at home jare ....

Timalt:
This is just childish. I told you I don't follow men, yet you are find straws to grasp so that you can "win arguments". Really how petty can you be? For real man. If you are not going to answer my questions at least have the maturity to say so.

You are the one that is shouting that your organization is the only truth, that whoever is not associated with it will die at armageddon. (I have provided evidence of this from your publications)
So the Onus lies on you to provide the evidence for us to see that you were really chosen by God in 1919 out of the numerous other religions. Provide The Biblical and emperical evidence. We are waiting for your evidence.

Bros, you don't follow men, no wahala.
Na which Church you dey go ?

You can not hide under the so called body of Christ wey no share your disbelief of Trinity.

You know the Bible's account of Samuel, king Josiah and Timothy, yet you wan see evidence of 7years old baptism ...

Train up a boy in God's ways for him, e no longer dey your Bible?
Bros ,go erase the account of young Samuel's temple service or young Timothy's before I can take you serious.


Your Churchpreneurs claim they are Anointed , chosen men of gods, eat and drink tea with God , you have never publicly called them out to give you empirical satisfactory PROOF, but you want JW own.
Bros, charity begins at home.

Timalt:
Research the religion very carefully.

Goto YouTube, type: exjw,
Search for Australian Royal Commission

I challenge you to bring proof here where you condemned the popular churchpreneur allegedly accused of rape in the recent past.
Hypocrite !

shadeyinka:
My quote again:

The Jehovah's Witness group actually has two separate Gods
1. God Almighty (Jehovah)
2. Mighty god( Jesus/Angel Michael)
Exo 20:3:
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
Which one of the two statements above does not represent the JW teaching
Please just point it/them out and stop throwing tantrums?

Bros, triune is NOT , can NEVER be "me".
Exodus 20:3says you put your Trinity DELUSION for portorportor...

JWs worship only Jehovah (call him Yahweh, if you like).
JWs cherish Jesus Christ statement in John 17:3, there is Only one true God Almighty.
Jesus Christ admits himself is NOT.

Hebrew Mighty God is a title for man, Jesus, angels and Jehovah too.
It is NOT PROOF of Trinity.

Maximus69:
That is one thing that shocked me most!
Some twenty years ago one of Jehovah's Witnesses asked me to read the whole of Matthew 10 then try to figure out which group perfectly fit in to what Jesus was saying!

I did and ever since then i can't stop thinking about Jehovah's Witnesses, at first i started reasoning that they made it all up to form their group in harmony with the chapter or it's just a coincidence, until i began asking my Maleem questions about Jehovah's Witnesses, all he could say is "they're one group that's giving Islam the greatest headache because it's so difficult to refute their teachings and rule of conduct"
I struggled to stay away from them but my conscience just won't let me be!
But when i began studying, i related my experience to my Bible conductor, then he told me "Jehovah knows his sheep" but truthfully my brother i never thought i could become a peaceful preacher!

The clown wan force himself to be Jesus disciple on his own terms.
Wetin Musa no go see for goalpost?

shadeyinka:
I wonder why you are being evasive. The question was

The question is simple:
Is Jesus a Mighty God or Mighty god ?

I didn't ask for the difference between Mighty God and God!

Your question lacks merit because you framed it to distort the fact.- in Hebrew language, Jesus mighty god is Jesus Mighty God.

shadeyinka:
I see you don't have shame even in defending errors!

According to you, by the rules of English language, Almighty God is referring to the same as Almighty god

In koine Greek, almighty god is also Almighty God. No difference.
English language is translating from the original source, which is Greek language.
The rules of Greek grammatical construction determines what you should translate into English.

IT IS DISHONESTY when you translate my Greek book to English and put down what I NEVER said in Greek.
You are A VERY DISHONEST Translator when you do so.
The Coptic Sahidic Bible dates back to a period of time closer to the lifetime of Apostle John.
The Sahidic Bible John 1:1 reads " the Word is a god".

Many centuries later, una Trinity FRAUDSTERS change am causing confusion for Una since 19gbidigbidi

achorladey:
More consolation.

1 Corinthians 3:23 those that belongs to CHRIST without belonging to the JW org are they equally led by God? We go see if you believe that Bible you cited now

Mark 1:13-15, Jesus preached the good news of the kingdom of God.
Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness,Acts 3:13 and Isaiah 42:10-12. Rev3:5,12-14..
Jehovah's witnesses is where Jesus belongs. Deal with it.

shadeyinka:
I have been asking them too o. Instead of just honourably keeping quiet or better still admit the conflict as something as an individual cannot do anything against.

The omition is a serious flaw in their doctrine for it affirms they are not sure of Jesus is just a mere god or God!

There is no flaw there because John 1:18 " No man has seen God at anytime"
Emphasis on: Anytime ", this REFUTES your "God in the flesh" FRAUD.
In the context of Greek John 1:1, the Word is a god".
Shade can your word be facing towards You?

You have been shown John1:1Greek interlinear
" The Logos (Word) was facing towards the God"

Your DELUSION is as incurable as HIV. .

Trinitarians and Bible Translators who knows better than Shadeyinka agreed the NWT John 1:1" the Word is a god " is VERY AUTHENTIC.

achorladey:
Consolation consolation consolation. That post touch you? After all I didn't tell the person that post was meant for not to join the ORGANIZATION

Jehovah's Organization is real and moving forward, Everyone led by Jehovah belongs there.
1 Corinthians 3:23. John 17:3. John 20:17.

Your story story changes NOTHING

achorladey:
Na only blood question you see.

It is equally good to ask, is the Jehovah's Witnesses organization(WTBTS) God's ORGANIZATION?

Where did God ask us to put faith in an ORGANIZATION?

When did God say salvation [b]is in an in LOYALTY to an organization?
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As long as you know that in the land of JWs there are TWO BIGGEST ORGANIZATION in the world

1. Jehovah's organization(WTBTS) as a registered and legal under SATAN'S ORGANIZATION.

2. Satan's organization( Every other organization in the world you can [b]think of [/b]be it RELIGIOUS, COMMERCIAL, POLITICAL, NON GOVERNMENTAL, EDUCATIONAL e.t.c

Finally ask, Can you be baptized as a CHRISTIAN without PLEDGING allegiance first to the organization?

Can they study bible with you continously WHEN you OUTRIGHTLY say you don't want to be one of Jehovah's witnesses?

If you had taken your time well on nairaland strong areas where JWs love to join discussion

1. TRINITY

2. IMMORTALITY of Soul or whatever

3. Hell fire

and reality says it is not only JWs that reject those beliefs that other religious denominations are not forceful about it don't mean they accept those beliefs. Do your findings well just as it relates to every other Christian denominations.

MUMU man.
1Cor 3:23, "You belong to Christ. In turn, Christ belongs to God."
Isaiah 42:10-12 , "You are my witnesses, my servants,whom I have chosen", says Jehovah.
Acts 3:13. Rev3:14, Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness.

John 17:3, Jesus says " this means everlasting life, their coming to know you the only True God, and the one you have sent, Jesus Christ"
Only Jehovah's organization Led by the God and Father of Jesus Christ can give you Everlasting life.

Can you be obedient to God and his Son without loyalty?
You dey quote John 20:28 as if John 3:16-17 and Revelations 3:5,12 no dey your Bible.
Continue to DECEIVE yourself.
Let that fact sink into your skull.

Rev 3:5. Matt 10: 32-33, when Jehovah God, His son and loyal angels (God's organization) in heaven DOESN'T know you, Archoladey you are just wasting your time with your Gang.


Why you dey get sifia pains when JWs emphasize loyalty to Jehovah's organization ?


Aside criticism of JWs when you all band together, can you confidently say these guys here are on the same page with you in agreement with all your Beliefs about the Bible?

Jehovah's organization keeps forging ahead. Whoever e dey pain,make he cry the more

olamy7:
well,I think it's very clear that the differences came as a result of role. Father, son and Holy Ghost are roles played by the same God.

When a man refuses to free himself from DELUSION he looks for excuses to keep himself enslaved....
Enjoy your DELUSION. Oma se oo

achorladey:
For a child has been born to us,A son has been given to us;And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.........NWT


John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god...........NWT


In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God!”........ John 20:28..........NWT

I am wondering what John was thinking when he decided to use capital G in John 20:28 and decided to use small g in John 1:1 in the same........NWT

cc: MuttlleyLaff
cc: Shadeyinka

John 20:17 Jesus Christ the master and his disciples Thomas,whose word is your credible evidence?


John 10:36, John 20:17, Rev3:5,12

Jesus Christ himself says he is a god worshipping his God and Father in heaven.

shadeyinka:
Then a good translation would have resolved the seeming translation inconsistency?
There is no excuse

Bros I no where your mind dey.. John 1:1.
John 17:3, John 14:1 Jesus says himself no be Tov Theon, the only True God.
John 1:1 Greek, the Word was facing towards Tov Theon, the only True God.
Jesus in heaven is not the Almighty. Rev3:12.
Greek Theos =a god/ God.
Greek Theos can be man , Almighty God, angel, Jesus.

Go check am.

shadeyinka:
So, if the context and consistency is important, why is Jesus god and God within the same NWT translation!??

Greek/Hebrew meaning of God (Theos/ ELOHIM in any given context is determinant of how Theos
Or ELOHIM should be rendered in English.
Context.
John 20:17 .
Jesus says Our God and Father is his God and Father.
Jesus Christ himself in John 20:17 debunks any meaning you attach to John 20:28.

The TRUTH of the entire Scriptures determines what it should be...
Rev 3:5,12 Jesus says himself is God's son in heaven. Therefore proof he is not Almighty God.
Col 1:19 his Father and God was pleased to grant
divine quality to his son.

shadeyinka:
Unfortunately, the NWT is meant to be read!
In English language god and God aren't the same.

Like we never see "the God of the Ammonite Moloch. But rightly in English, it is written as the god of the Ammonite Moloch!

Speaking of the best translation!?

It still ELOHIM,whether a goddess,deity or the Almighty God.
The Hebrew language rendition determines what it's to be.. deity or the Almighty in English.