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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 10:41am On May 10, 2020
Emusan:
1)

That happened on the CROSS if not the virgin birth is false...which is the reason why you said "so that human nature is contaminated by virtue of been sacrificed for Sin."

Christ has never sin till He was put on the CROSS, it was on the CROSS HE BEARS ALL OUR SIN.

Are you saying Christ sin before he died?

What is the essence of the virgin birth if the human nature is already contaminated?

Liar....



Liar....but you're already said the first NATURE MUST BE DROPPED before the second nature can be picked. That's why you even said I should asked the Father what He did with the Divine nature.

Now it's no more EMPTIED but CHANGE where in the scripture can you find this?

Liar of the greatest century.

Just as I asked

Where is the divine nature JESUS EMPTIED





Speaking ignorance and keep changing mouth

This was your first statement "...Just as we have bear the image of the one from dust, ( Human nature) We shall bear the image of the heavenly one ( Divine nature )"

The heavenly one here is God.....

2)
[b]So it's evident that you're just deluded Human are already created in the Image of God which is the glory Adam lost to sin [/b]and Jesus came to restore us back to that glory.
1).
Confirmed OLODO!
A Bowl in your hands you DROPPED it on the floor.
Is your hands EMPTY ?

Has a CHANGE occurred ?

Whatever you Emptied, Dropped, you have left behind because CHANGE has Occurred..

Emusan Confused OLODO grin

2).
Point of correction: Jesus is the heavenly one spoken of in 1 Cor 15:45-49.. DON'T TWIST IT..

Emusan done write him own Bible.
Man created in God's image Fell short of God's glory.
Man NEVER fell short of God's image, (except in Emusan delusional mindset).

grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 9:40am On May 10, 2020
freshboi88:
@CANTICLES, @Maximus69 @Barristter07, @Jozzy4 @Rozz

I am the LORD; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, [/b]nor my praise to carved idols. (Isaiah 42:cool

Glorify me in your own presence with [/b]the glory that I had with you before the world existed
. (John 17:5)

Make Una explain this one
Again, Jesus Christ himself will EXPOSE Freshboi Wayo.....

John 17:24
"Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me [/b]before the creation of the world."

Wayo man wey no know Jesus.... grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 11:09pm On May 09, 2020
freshboi88:
Plus y r u running from the Angel Micheal lie....

Scripture clearly shows u r lying.....must u guys lie in everything
I have already given treatment to this issue here..
You Don't read the points we explained thoroughly and LEARN.
Rather, Freshboi is more interested in typing GIBBERISH. grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky:
freshboi88:
Lair......

NWT
You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you+ with the oil of exultation more than your companions.”+ 10 And: “At the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands. 11 They will perish, but you will remain; and just like a garment, they will all wear out, 12 and you will wrap them up just as a cloak, as a garment, and they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will never come to an end.”+

And is a conjunction connecting. 10 with the preceding verse.

If Ur lie has any iota of credence it should be a But and not an And.


So it should read

You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you+ with the oil of exultation more than your companions.”+ 10 But: “At the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands. 11 They will perish, but you will remain; and just like a garment, they will all wear out, 12 and you will wrap them up just as a cloak, as a garment, and they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will never come to an end.”+

@bolded the bible didn't use but. It used And & it is a conjunction.

So it's either your translation made a mistake or the JW is just a bunch of confused dullards.

Which 1 is it?
.

By his false claims of Hebrew 1:10-12, Freshboi is telling us that Hebrews 2:9 and Hebrews 10:12 is FALSE.


Hebrews 1:9
"You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. [b]That is why God, your God, anointed you+ with the oil [/b]of exultation more than your companions"

**Hebrews 1:9 . Isaiah 40:25 and Psalms 102:12,24 are SOLID PROOF that your "AND" has no legitimate business in verse 10.
Una CHANGE 1 John 5:7.1Tim3:16. Hebrews 1:8, to support Trinity GIBBERISH, Na Hebrews 1:10 go hard una to change?


***
Isaiah 40:25
"With whom, then, will you compare me? With whom am I equal?" asks the Holy One

***
The God of Psalm 102:12,25-27 get any mate ,peers, ? (Exodus 6:3. Psalms 83:18 ASV)

Again, Freshboi is arguing that Hebrews 1:9 is FALSE. grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky:
freshboi88:
8 But to the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever.
You rule with a scepter of justice.
9 You love justice and hate evil.
Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you,
pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g]

10 He also says to the Son,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
and made the heavens with your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain forever.
They will wear out like old clothing.
12 You will fold them up like a cloak
and discard them like old clothing.
But you are always the same;
you will live forever


"He also says to the son". This is what scripture says.........they wan lie
"10 He also says to the Son," Na Maggi and Pepper ADDED into the Bible.
Verse9 ends with full stop.
Verse 10-12, The One spoken of is the Father of the Son in verse 13. grin
Psalms 102:24-27 the One spoken of is Immortal,can NEVER die, this fact is confirmed in Hebrews 1:10-12

By his false claims of Hebrew 1:10-12, Freshboi is telling us that Hebrews 2:9 and Hebrews 10:12 is FALSE.

The Hebrew language Psalms45:6-8 and 102:25-27 Masoretic Text CONFIRMS Freshboi post of Hebrew 1:8, 10-12 is actually a FRAUDULENT TWIST
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 9:47pm On May 09, 2020
freshboi88:
13 And God never said to any of the angels,

“Sit in the place of honor at my right hand
until I humble your enemies,
making them a footstool under your feet.”[i]


Dude clear Ur ignorance.....

In light of this is Micheal still Jesus
Freshboi claims that Jesus is Jehovah in the old testament, according to him Psalms 102:25-27 is the same God of Hebrew 1:10-12..

Freshboi,why Jehovah tell himself to sit at his own right hand ? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 9:30pm On May 09, 2020
Rozz:
I am somehow confused sir,are you trying to also say angel Michael is Jesus ?same thing the person you quoted is trying to say
Malachi 3:1

"Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek will suddenly come to his temple, and the Angel of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he cometh, saith Jehovah of hosts."

Jesus Christ is "the angel of the covenant" spoken of in Malachi 3:1 (Compare John 7:16).


1 Thessalonians 4:16 states: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.”

Thus the voice of Jesus is described as being that of an archangel. This scripture therefore suggests that Jesus himself is the archangel Michael.

Army Leader. The Bible states that “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon . . . and its angels.” (Revelation 12:7) Thus, Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels. Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels. (Revelation 19:14-16) And the apostle Paul specifically mentions “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and “his angels” and Jesus and “his angels.” (Matthew 13:41; 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22).



Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven​—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—​it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role. *
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 9:22pm On May 09, 2020
Rozz:
JW people are not friendly at all, they hardly want to have conversations if you ain't one of them.I knew one few years back and anytime he sees me,he will cover his face or look the other way,i didn't know if he was shy or he's already thinking I'm a bad person lol
You simply formed an assumption without getting to know him better.... grin
JWs generally are easygoing and friendly if you take your time and effort to know us as individuals..
Every one is unique in their own way and mannerisms..
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 6:35pm On May 09, 2020
Maximus69:
Matthew 16:16 smiley
Jesus Christ says God gave Peter that Revelation. Matt 16:16-17.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 6:34pm On May 09, 2020
freshboi88:
8 But to the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever.
You rule with a scepter of justice.
9 You love justice and hate evil.
Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you,
pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g]

10 He also says to the Son,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
and made the heavens with your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain forever.
They will wear out like old clothing.
12 You will fold them up like a cloak
and discard them like old clothing.
But you are always the same;
you will live forever


"He also says to the son". This is what scripture says.........they wan lie
Later,i will address Hebrew 1:9-12., It doesn't even support Freshboi fictitious claims.


Freshboi Hebrews 1:8 is a FRAUD.
Revelations 3:21, Jesus confirmed Hebrews 1:8 is FRAUDULENT .

Hebrews1:8 is a direct quote of Psalm 45:6.
The Hebrew language Masoretic Text CONFIRM that Freshboi is using a FRAUD to defend a FRAUD he calls Trinity.
The Catholics carry Trinity for head like Gala .
The Catholic Church produced Jerusalem Bible ,in Psalms 45:6 also confirms Freshboi is a LIAR. grin.
Masoretic Text is probably the oldest copy of the old Testament...
See the screenshot PROOF below..

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 6:13pm On May 09, 2020
Rozz:
This my JW people can argue ehn,no wonder why most pastors will tell you to avoid them but I give it to them as they are most times somehow right
Dearie, To point out what the Bible actually says means defending the Bible's TRUTH..
It is NOT argument....
People get frightened because what we show them from their own Bible is too unpalatable to their ears.. The excess JUNK of pastorpreneurs done pollute their hearts and mental power to reason. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 10:17pm On May 08, 2020
Emusan:
Liar the verse says PARTAKER/SHARE not HAVING/POSSESS/BECOME

This is the same point that your tiny brain failed to grab, that's why you keep equating the Heb 2:14 with 2peter 1 both are describing different issue but since you must cherry pick scripture then your problem continues.



Does the verse say, they will become God?

That's is the point!

Heb 2:14 emphatically says, Christ sharing in humanity is to BECOME Human!

Did 2peter 1:4 says the same thing about those people?

Again to EXIST IN GOD'S FORM IS TO BE GOD!



They SHARE/PARTAKER not FULLY BECOME....

Just to let you know that both Heb & Peter are describing different issue!





So if Christ emptied the divine nature, was the divine nature died or still exist while He became human?

Or simply put, what actually happened to the divine nature He emptied?

The Christians only SHARE/PARTAKE not BECOME...

I didn't even have time to explain the content of that 2 Peter 1 because I know it's just a waste of precious time.
When Manual Labourers embark on Weeding with a fresh member working with them, Emusan says the fresh member is just a partaker /sharer, he is not a Manual Labourer grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 10:04pm On May 08, 2020
Emusan:
Liar scripture didn't say "receiving the promise of HAVING GOD'S NATURE" that's your own addition to the scripture for your evil consumption.

Do you accept they will still be human having share of the divine nature?
Why does Emusan keep LYING ?

1 Cor 15:49-50.
"49And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so also shall we bear the likeness of the heavenly man. 50Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable "

Compare 2 Cor 5:1.. John 17:24 grin grin

"The perishable DOES NOT INHERIT the imperishable"

Triune pagan deity devotee wey no know Jesus Christ.... grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky:
Emusan:
In your wildest imagination not the main point.

The content of Heb 2:14 clearly shows that Christ sharing in humanity makes Him fully HUMAN whereas the content of 2Peter 1:4 not even you demonic translation shows that those Christians sharing FULL divine nature.

So it's you deluded people who intentionally cling to SHARING MUST BE EQUAL FULLY



Makes HIM FULLY HUMAN according to the content of that verse, show us where the content of Christians sharing divine nature signifies FULLY DIVINE NATURE!



It's not today I know you lack simple comprehension.

MY Points are:
1[b]. Christ was never a human being scripture already told us His nature which is GOD'S FORM
[/b]
2. For death to be defeated, Christ partakes/share/become HUMAN because that's was the only way He can defeat Death.
3. Even though He shared/partook/became HUMAN, this doesn't make Him to loose His first FORM He existed in.
4. Using energy as analogy, energy can neither be created nor destroyed but can only be transformed from one FORM/NATURE to another FORM/NATURE


Transforming energy from one state/form to another doesn't change the fact that it's still energy.

That's my point!



Firstly, you get yourself more confused by only concentrate on one part of my post and neglect the other part.

Firstly, it's you and your deluded brother who EQUATE the sharing to be the same thing while my own point has been on the content of each verses.

Secondly, You cherry pick the part that suit you in my post and then forcing your delusion on my statement.

Lastly, since you're forcing your delusion on my statement, let's even assume I go with you, then[b] do you agree with my second part of my statement that sharing in humanity by Christ still made Christ to retain His original NATURE? [/b]which then means those Christians too will still retain their HUMAN NATURE!

Let me see how you want to go about it!
The "triune pagan deity" of Emusan get ZERO knowledge....
Matt 24:36 Jesus Christ do your LIE LIE shege grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 9:19pm On May 07, 2020
freshboi88:
Palsm 102:

New World Translation
25 Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of your hands.i
26 They will perish, but you will remain;
Just like a garment they will all wear out.
Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will pass away.
27 But you are the same, and your years will never end.j

Who is the palsmist referring to?
Psalm 90 :1
"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God. "

NO sinful woman can birth Almighty Yahweh .


Galatians 4:4
"But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law",


Olebwoy JUNK spoil your brain with MUMU virus.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 8:59pm On May 07, 2020
freshboi88:
New Living Translation
Philippians 2:7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form,


You can shout like a mad dog all u can.....but u can never subvert the truth.

@ bolded says he gave up his divine privileges. And was born as man. This is the answer to this Ur baseless rant. So as man, just like any other man was limited and not all knowing.

I have answered Ur question. Whether it is acceptable to u or not is ur own headache.

I am not afriad to answer your questions so dnt be afraid to answer mine
. This is the first Question every reasonable person would ask:
In Philippians 2:7, who " took humble position of a slave and was born as a human being"?

***Romans 8:3
"For what the Law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, as an offering for sin. He thus condemned sin in the flesh*

Galatians 4:4
But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, made under the law"

John 3:16-17, Jesus Christ says Galatians 4:4 and Roman 8:3 is very AUTHENTIC, very true.
.
Yahweh OWNs everything , Ephesians 3:14-15, by His Right of Ownership,but Jesus receives it as privileges (Matt28:18. John 17:24.)

Freshboi GIBBERISH goes straight to the dustbin
Olebwoy JUNK toh bad gaan !!!!!! .
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 6:17pm On May 07, 2020
freshboi88:
He was able to grow in His human condition toward divine wholeness.

He knew all as God but could not access that in His active human consciousness.
Freshboi GIBBERISH. grin grin

Freshboi and Emusan says Jesus was fully God.
All powerful God limited by human nature....
Una GIBBERISH Na JUNK for dustbin. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 6:02pm On May 07, 2020
freshboi88:
The answer u seek is embedded in Philippians 2:7. He emptied himself to take up human nature and of course was limited on knowledge (Luke 2:52)

When Mary and Joseph found Jesus in the Temple, Scripture says He went home with them and “increased in wisdom and stature” (Luke 2:52). He was able to grow in His human condition toward divine wholeness.

He knew all as God but could not access that in His active human consciousness.


So are u afriad to answer a question directly.

How was the psalmist referring to in palsm 102: 25-27
Freshboi doesn't believe John 3:16-17... Yes, It Is CONFIRMED.

Philippians 2:7 = Galatians 4:4 & Romans 8:3

Freshboi, if your "Jesus Fully God" claim is true, is human nature more powerful than fully God?

Freshboi, why will "Jesus Fully God be limited in knowledge" of human beings you claimed himself created?

Freshboi says "God" no get knowledge He give His creatures..
This Trinitarians wayo bad gaan !!!!!

Romans 8:3
The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature. So[b] God did what the law could not do. He sent his own Son in a body like the bodies we sinners have. And in that body God declared an end to sin’s control over us by giving his Son as a sacrifice for our sins.
[/b]
Freshboi says God sent himself to be born of a woman,
Galatians 4:4 & John 3:16-17 says Freshboi is a LIAR...
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 5:12pm On May 07, 2020
freshboi88:
He was human

@Rozz @Janosky @Barristter07 @Maximus69 @Jozzy4



Palsm 102
25 Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of your hands.i
26 They will perish, but you will remain;
Just like a garment they will all wear out.
Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will pass away.
27 But you are the same, and your years will never end.

Who was the palsmist referring to?......Jesus or Jehovah?
[/quote]Freshboi done put himself for akobe.... grin
I know where you dey go but akobe done catch you.... grin

Freshboi answer this Questions:

Freshboi says "Jesus was human", is human nature more powerful than fully God ?

Freshboi says Jesus is "Fully God", the one @ Psalms 102:25-27, why does Fully God have ZERO knowledge of Matt 24:36?

Psalms 102:24, has "Jesus lived forever through out all generations"



grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky:
freshboi88:
Dnt mind these guys....the bible says Mighty God. But they feel they know better than the bible
Know NOTHING Freshboi grin
What is the meaning of Hebrew EL ?
What's the meaning of Hebrew EL-Gibbowr? grin


CC : Rozz , please LEARN !

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky:
Emusan:
Then it means John the Baptist was already possessed then in heaven....

Is Isaiah 42 a prophetic statement or not?



Jesus existed as GOD from beginning, that is His form! Share in humanity can mean like adding something which doesn't change the existing one.



When I said Jesus was fully human on earth, did you know I said His original nature doesn't change? because you neglected that part.

Sharing in God's nature doesn't make you FULLY GOD that's why Christ can't be said to be Human forever but Christ existed in form of God from beginning.
Yet Jesus Christ Fully God have ZERO knowledge of Matthew 24:36. God wey know NOTHING ! grin grin

The DELUSION of triune pagan deity devotees is very fantastic grin
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo: It's Wrong To Allow People In Market And Not In Church by Janosky: 4:26pm On May 07, 2020
PHijo:
Your leaders no nothing! If they did, they will know how to come up with even $50billion. Within a short period of time.
grin grin grin grin
Bros you wan give them expo ?
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo: It's Wrong To Allow People In Market And Not In Church by Janosky: 4:17pm On May 07, 2020
Chosen1984:
Very unwise and foolish thing to do

They feel they are wise but they don't know they are Foolish!

They isolate GOD ALMIGHTY and they still call on HIM for Help!

Foolish Generation !
Okokobioko !!!!!!

It's unChristian to live with a wacky mindset that God will not answer you unless you run to "business centres" and pay fees to gods of men !

If Almighty Yahweh no fit answer you in your own room (Matt6:6) , Bros you have wasted your precious time , wasted your car petrol or transport fare running to "business centres" where you end up wasting more hard earned money with several brands of membership fees.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 12:38am On May 06, 2020
freshboi88:
Humans are not called Mighty God. Lair!!!!!!.....

Isaiah called Jesus Everlasting Father??....are humans called Everlasting Father too?...

This answer will put sense into ur empty head
grin grin

EL (God in Hebrew language) means "Mighty One" , Gibbowr = Mighty one, Valiant etc.
--------++++++++++++++++++++++
Everlasting Father and Last Adam gives everlasting life to mankind and replaces their human Father, ( First Adam) who had given death to mankind.
Romans 5:12. 1 Corint 15:20-22,45-47.

Freshboi88.......

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 9:38pm On May 05, 2020
Rozz:
funny people una try
Help yourself and LEARN !
No pastorpreneur will explain the holy Bible free of charge to you in such detail as JWs have done on this thread.....

Shalom.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 7:46pm On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
New World Translation----Jehovah Witness Bible
Palsm 82: 6 “I have said, ‘You are gods,
All of you are sons of the Most High.

C this MUMU. Y did u dump Ur translation and carry one translation that no one recognizes.

Notice that Jehovah Witness Bible says "ye are gods". Small letter g. To differentiate between the God [ELOHIM] and other gods(men).
Hebrew language is in Big Capital Letters...... For instance,YHWH....
Only English has dichotomy of big and small letters.....

Freshboi MUMU Na Top Level.... showcase him MUMU brain and LIENUS...

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky:
freshboi88:
This one is running....u no dey go anywhere. I go chuck this truth inside ur yansh today ODE!!!!!


@CANTICLES.
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given. Will the child be called Mighty God or Servant ....which one did the Isaiah call him?...

Mighty God or Mighty Servant ?
Freshboi is DISHONEST & cherry picking.... grin

Isaiah calls the Son both- Servant/Mighty God.
(Hebrew El-Gibbowr) ", it doesn't prove shishi ! grin

Yahweh Himself also calls men and angels Elohim (God).


Psalms 82:6
"I -- I have said, 'Gods ye are, And sons of the Most High -- all of you"


Freshboi, make you answer this Questions:
We know the Father of that "Mighty God",
Who be the Father of Yahweh ? grin
Yahweh is a Servant of whom? grin

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 12:05am On May 05, 2020
freshboi88:
Can u tell the house on what ground u won the appeal
You should have gone to the courts to monitor its proceedings to have a better understanding of the issues, rather than come to Nairaland and make defamatory statements...
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 11:21pm On May 04, 2020
freshboi88:
Lawsuits filed across the country since the 1990s have accused the Jehovah's Witnesses and their legal corporations — including the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York Inc. — of failing to report child abuse.

In 2018, a Montana jury awarded $35 million to Alexis Nunez, who said she was sexually abused for years by a member of the Thompson Falls Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Two others told elders in 2004 that they had been abused by the same man, according to court records, but the elders never reported it to authorities.

The elders expelled the abuser from the congregation but then reinstated him, court records state. The man continued to abuse Nunez until 2007, according to the lawsuit.

The Jehovah's Witnesses appealed the case. Last month, the Montana Supreme Court ruled in the organization's favor, finding that the lower court erred when it said Jehovah's Witnesses had a duty to report. In its opinion, the court said the Jehovah's Witnesses were exempt.

That was not the first time the organization argued it has no duty to report suspected abuse.

Ur organisation is saying 1 thing, u r saying another
Freshboi LIAR,Let the BOLDED in your post sink into your MUMU brain grin grin
Freshboi LIAR wants to derail this thread. grin

Freshboi brought this matter up because his
Trinity FRAUDULENT GIBBERISH have been hammered to pieces....
Desperado pushing spurious allegations as fact.

The BBC news you dey quote NEVER said any JWs committed rape.
BBC said "alleged" grin grin
BBC news have ZERO PROOF to support Freshboi LIAR.... grin

The Watchtower APPEALLED the unjust judgment and won those cases wey Freshboi dey LYING about..

I challenge Freshboi88 to show us PROOF on Nairaland where you condemned your popular pastorpreneur accused of rape last year in 9ja...
Freshboi HYPOCRITE, Prove me wrong !
You cherry pick JWs and malign them with defamation on matters for which you have ZERO PROOF.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 11:23pm On May 03, 2020
freshboi88:
@Janosky @Rozz @Jozzy4 @Maximus69 @CANTICLES

I can categorically tell u from these truth u have been told today and @Rozz is a witness to the truth that:

We all know that God the Father is to be worshiped. But what about Jesus Christ? If he is God, should we not also worship him? The answer of course is yes. But that truth leads us back to the Trinity. He is not merely the Son of God but also God the Son. The same thing may be said about the Holy Spirit. He is not just a "force" but a Divine Person. Not an "influence" or some vague power, but the Third Person of the Trinity.

Let me draw one important inference. Since all Three Persons of the Trinity are equally God, we may pray to any member of the Trinity. [/b]That, by the way, is the number one question I have been asked about the Holy Spirit since writing Names of the Holy Spirit. Many Christians simply do not feel comfortable praying to the Spirit even though we often sing songs that are essentially prayers to the Spirit, such as "Spirit of God, descend upon my heart" and "Spirit of the living God, fall afresh on me." Surely if we may sing to the Spirit, we may also pray to him. If he is God, our prayers may be directed to him.

I do agree that Christian prayers will customarily be made to the Father (e.g. The Lord's Prayer). But let us not quibble or imagine that the Father is slighted if we direct our prayers to the Son or to the Spirit, according to the need of the moment. There is no jealousy among the members
NOTHING you mentioned up there is in your Bible
Freshboi,Please DESIST FROM my mention, whenever you bring your FRAUD and JUNK GIBBERISH to this thread grin grin grin grin grin grin

Shalom.
Christianity EtcRe: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Pastoring? by Janosky:
Emusan:
1)
This was your lie which I busted "Aside that, NONE of them affixed "Apostle Paul" or "Apostle Peter" to their names elsewhere in your Bible..

After this you're now grasping for air to breath....

Your balloon of lies has been punched with a tiny needle.

The truth from the scripture is that both Paul and Peter ascribed the Title "APOSTLE" to themselves.

2).
These are the list where Bible ascribed Title to people names even including Christ Himself.

1. Jeremiah 23:9 Jeremiah himself.
2. Luke 4:17, Luke 4:27 where Christ ascribed the Title Prophet to Isaiah
3. 2 Chronicles 32:32 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Isaiah
4. 2 Chronicles 36:12 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Jeremiah
5. Ezra 6:14 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Haggai

And many more so your lies can't hold anymore.
1).
You don't have to TWIST my statement in order to protect your interests.
IT IS Emusan DISHONESTY.

Janosky Original Statement:

In their conversations in the holy Bible (aside the first verse of chapter 1 of the Letters they wrote), NOBODY ELSE in the holy Bible addressed them as "Apostle Peter" etc ,Is that point too difficult for you to understand?


**ANOTHER FACT:
1Cor 3:4-5, Paul NEVER arrogated the title of Apostle to himself (likewise Peter) as if it is GROSS SIN when anyone failed to call him "Apostle Paul".
I remember one Jankara Prof in my School way back in time long past, if you no call am him Church titles he go provoke like say you commit 'unforgiveable sin'....
The pompous demi god was thrown out of the System for copy,copy...
I no get time for him Nonsense !! grin


2).
Jeremiah 23:9 your claim is FALSE !

"Concerning the prophets. My heart within me is broken, all my bones shake; I am like a drunken man, and like a man whom wine hath overcome, because of Jehovah, and because of his holy words."

*Emusan 2-5, You simply confirmed that THIS FACT:
NONE of the old testament Prophets ascribed the title "Prophet" to themselves.
Other people in the Scriptures called them "Prophet" .
That's the point I am making.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 6:20pm On May 03, 2020
freshboi88:
Jesus Christ is clearly referred to as God and savior here in Titus 2:13, which corresponds to Isaiah 43:11 Where God says besides him, there is no other savior. grin

If u need more biblical proof that Jesus is God. Tell me I'll show u scripture
freshboi88:


I didn't claim Jesus is the same with the Father. Rather they are united, equal in essence, form and nature
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I am dragging them. They criticize what they have zero understanding of. Their doctrine is full of lies
FRAUDULENT Con man EXPOSES his Trinity FRAUD.....
Freshboi LIAR... grin

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