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Ken4Christ:
The Jehovah Witness are not Christians. They are anti Christ. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

Ken4Christ:
The Deity of Christ unveiled all over the scriptures. Only a blind man will read through the statements of Jesus and not be convinced is is God in human flesh.

He had power to forgive sins which no human could do.

He had the power to give eternal life which no human could do.

That same power that Jesus & John said does not belong to Jesus, John 17:7

Oga, you are deceiving yourself.

Ken4Christ:
He had the power to raise himself from the dead which no human could do.

Ken4Christ:
He had the power to ascend back to heaven which no human could do.

He made statements which no human ever made or could have make.

He said

I am the way, the truth and the life.

I am the bread of life.

I am the living water.

I am the first and the last.

Before Abraham was, I am

He who has seen me as seen the Father.

Ken4Christ:
Angels worshipped him. Humans worshipped Him. Demons flee at the mention of his name.

Greek proskyneu , original meaning was prostrate, or kneeling to greet a elderly person or monarch.

When applied to Jesus, proskyneu means prostrate or bow down (the manner Yorubas greet their Kabiyesi or monarch).
You are not worshipping Jesus or your monarch.
Illiterate pastor deceiving himself

Ken4Christ:
Humans were created. Jesus is the creator.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

I could go on and on. The evidences are overwhelming.

Illiterate pastor TWISTING John 1:3, what is the meaning of Greek "dia antou" @ John 1:3. 1 Corinthians 8:6 & Hebrew 1:2?

You know nothing except deceiving & misleading gullible folks.

Kingsempires:
Anybody that is saying that Jesus is an angel or is not God is not a christian,that person is another religion person on his-her own

Kingsempires:
trouble maker

Oga,nah your fellow Trinitarian posted those screenshots on Facebook.

Please Go and confirm it for yourself.

Ken4Christ:
My God is only mysterious to carnal people like you. You don't have the capacity to receive spiritual truths because you don't have the Spirit of God.

johnw47:
God and the Word are God beings. i and my father are human beings

In a nutshell, John W is a polytheist worshipping more than 2 different beings, his God beings.


Idol worshippers.
Confirmed by the screenshots.

johnw47:
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God

1. God beget the Word, 2. the Word is God,
what God beget is God, what God made (angel) is not God

what man begets is man, what man makes is not man


God begat the Word:
1Jn_4:9  By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him.

the Word is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You quoted John 1:1.
Where did you see "IS" @ John 1:1?

Man begets another man, another being not himself.


LYING is inseparable from trinitarians.

johnw47:
being born is sometimes said to be created, but they are diffrent;
being born is to be part of the one who beget you, being created is to be bought into
existance through God's Word.
in adam's case the Word made adam from the dust of the ground,
and the Word made eve from adam's rib

it could be said i created a small lake on my property, but actually
i made a small lake on my property using my bulldozer

johnw47:
God is a Spirit, the Word is the same Spirit as His Father

just like i am the same dna as my parents

Ken4Christ:
My God is only mysterious to carnal people like you. You don't have the capacity to receive spiritual truths because you don't have the Spirit of God.

Pastor posting GIBBERISH.

Spiritual truth of Psalm 45:6-7 distorted & CHANGED by your Trinitarian mentors @ Hebrew 1:8.

Spiritual truth of 1 Timothy 3:16 & 1 John 5:7 distorted & CHANGED by your Trinitarian mentors.


If you want more evidences, it's very much available.

Ken4Christ:
You are quoting scriptures that supports your opinions while ignoring many more others that speaks otherwise.

What about where God the Father called Jesus God?

Hebrews 1:8-9.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. note

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Greek New testament of Hebrew 1:8-9 is a copy of Psalm 45:6-7.

Oga,read the Hebrew Psalm 45 & understand that verse.
"God is your throne"/ your throne is from God "
Psalm 45:6-7 the Message Bible. New Jerusalem Bible. The Hebrew Masoretic text. Screenshot evidences.
Pastor,Go & verify.

Your Trinitarian mentors doctored Hebrew 1:8 for a purpose: deception & distortion of the scriptures.

Ken4Christ:
God the Father is invisible. Jesus is the physical manifestation of the invisible God. So, if you want to see God, look at Jesus.

Greek New testament of Hebrew 1:8-9 is a copy of Psalm 45:6-7.


John 14:9-10 & John 14:24. John 17:8,21-23 is in your Bible. Please study & receive understanding.

The Trinitarian illusion that both are the same being is very deceptive.

Tetraozonaitera:
Janoski I love your points I will respond when I have the time.

In the mean Time, explain what "The Word" means to our readers. You can see I replied at midnight so, I will respond properly to you later. Meanwhile again, explain what "The Word" means.
Shalom

StillDtruth:
Correct uppercut!

And see how he ran away after i answered him in the beginning.of this thread

Steep:
just before coming to the earth. See Phil 2:7.
He made himself of no reputation taking the form of a servant, before he was made a man.
Note the change of language,before taking upon himself the form of a servant he did all things by his authority but after taking upon himself the form of a servant he relinquished that authority to the father and he was made a man not by himself.

"taking upon himself the form of a servant he did all things by his authority "


Oga, study that link & understand where your delusion was brought into Phillipians 2:6-7.

https://skipmoen.com/2014/10/the-assumed-trinity-a-look-at-philippians-26/#:~:text=The%20Greek%20reads%20hos%20en,regarded%20equality%20as%20not%20something.

Steep:
We don't see different gods but one God who is in three different persons playing different roles to fulfill his will.

Exodus 15:11 "who is like unto thee, O Jehovah ,among the gods?

Oga Steep is Exodus 15:11 & Psalm 82:1,6 inspired in your own Bible?

Jehovah the ONLY True God the Most High calls His sons gods, Psalm 83:18 & Psalm 82:6


Oga Steep, Jesus said " the holy scriptures can not be broken",@ John 10:34-36 he quoted Psalm 82:6 which you don't accept.

Oga Steep wan change the holy scriptures to fit his man made delusion invented at Nicene.

Tetraozonaitera:
The word had been existing with God. Even before the creation of the world.
The Bible says Without Him Nothing was created that was created. So what exactly are you saying?
He existed with God before the "Let there be Light"
Are you saying God has not been talking before "Let there be Light?"

Dont Get yourself confused to win an argument.

Since you cant Exist Without Your word and
You were made in the Image of God. That means God HAS BEEN Existing with his Word since before TIME.

Steep:
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

I believe they are not exactly the same, John's "beginning" is actually the "indefinite" time before definite time.
How did I know? It is because John later said all creation came into being through him so John 's beginning goes far beyond the beginning of Genesis into eternity.

johnw47:
jwfacts dot com

Changes in Policy
The Watchtower is in a perpetual state of doctrinal change, often flip-flopping as many as three or four times on a single issue.

The Watchtower Theocracy
Another major cause for disillusionment among Witnesses is that they are taught that their organization is a theocracy, specifically run by God. Those inside the Watchtower organization are the only true servants of God, and all of those outside are evil persons soon to be destroyed at Armageddon. Yet many are aware of the numerous cases of Witnesses who have done horrible things.

^^ who would have thought that a org. run by God would be flip flopping multiple times on a single issue

Jehovah God is the Unchangeable Changer.

God changes what He wants, even the seasons change when God wants it.

Why you dey cook & work on Sabbath day?

Why you no dey do animals sacrifices of God's people?

Kumuyi your Daddy is always changing church doctrines & you are WAILING about JW's upandan.


Your "anointed" gods of man says only his church is favourite, you and your fellow 3 deities worshippers will bow down to his church members.

Your gods of men also have flip flop doctrines.
John W dunce

johnw47:
Total admissions for Schizophrenia and Paranoid Schizophrenia and Neurosis 7,546

“From that figure, it is clear that members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses movement are over-represented in admissions to the Mental Health Services of this State. Furthermore, it is clear from the Table that the incidence of schizophrenia amongst them is about three times as high as for the rest of the general population, while the figure for paranoid schizophrenia is nearly four times that of the general population” (p. 558).

“The study does not shed light on the question of symptom or defense mechanism but suggests that either the Jehovah’s Witnesses sect tends to attract an excess of pre-psychotic individuals who may then break down, or else being a Jehovah’s Witness is itself stress which may precipitate a psychosis” (p. 558).

A discredited Report without any adherence to professional and scientific standards for research ,nah John W dunce dey use deceive himself.

Oga you dunce too much.

Tetraozonaitera:
You have just wasted space and time writing the long piece.

At the court of Law. After quarell with your neighbor who was so smart to have recorded your voice which in your own words you were bragging you will cut his son's head off one day.

The Judge facing you says Mr. Jude, can you tell this honourable court who was that talking and bragging?
What would you say when you know your neighbor got you refunded?

"It was me your honor" would be your answer if you dont want greater punishment for telling lies.

Those were your words in your own voice.

Only a mental patient would say "Your Honor, it was not me Sir. It was only my voice"

The Judge may have to tell them to go and check your Sanity.

In a nutshell, you cant separate a man from his word.
His word is him. He is his word.

Jesus is the word of God.
You cant separate God from His Word.
He is His Word, His Word is He.

Shalom

seunowa:
Sincerely I do not get what exactly your point is about the identity of Christ Jesus. While not come out with a concise and unambiguous explanation of identity of Christ Jesus.

johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

so say's a lost false jw blasphemer of the Holy Spirit
your rewards are surely coming:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Kingsempires:
God is mysterious,3 person in 1 God those not mean God is 3.this is mystery so this is christian believe.the way you believe allah is God is the way christian believe that there are 3person in 1 God.that is mystery is beyond human understanding

MaxInDHouse:
After proving him an empty vessel he resorted to insults and curses as if he's the one who will judge people!

Steep:
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1 Corinthians 8:5-6
"For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,yet to us, there is one God the Father....." And that scripture also said Jesus is the one Lord.
.

Steep:
Psalm 82:1 God presides over the divine assembly.
He (Ha Elohim) judges among the gods.
Psalm 82:6 God's sons are gods whether in heaven or earth. Are those gods truly gods?
.

Oga Steep does NOT believe the holy scriptures of Psalm 82:1,6 confirmed @ John 10:34-36,by Jesus his deity.

In public you dey reject the words confirmed by Jesus.
Oga ,you see your life?

Oga Steep, please CURE YOUR delusion invented at Nicene.

Steep:
The ho theo is John 1:1 is just a grammatical function that differentiate subject from object.
.

Steep:
According to this verse below Jehovah stretched out the heavens alone.

Job 9:8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

But according to the scripture God created all things by Jesus christ,

Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Meaning Jesus is the same God Jehovah.

johnw47:
lost fraud jw janosky

you love to lie and blaspheme the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit
of the Bible very often, calling Them 3 deities which is 3 gods, you also lie that the
Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit were invented:

your rewards are surely coming:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Balablue64:
They know me in my area, none dare near our compound because they consider me as Satan first born.

To avoid JW's, If you like build walls around your house like kirikiri .

We don't care.

Templee333:
1. They are hypocrytes. They are good at preaching but cannot practice what they preach. 2. They construct man made rules and claim they are from God. 3.They criticize every other church/religion yet they practice the same thing they accuse others of. 4. They make false predictions but refuse to take responsibility when their predictions fail. 5. They tell lies in judgement and touture unsuspecting members emotionally while they claim that such judgments come from Jehovah. 6. They support child abuse and hide offenders. 7. They shun any member who question the "truth" that they claim to teach

Steep:
Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Jehovah true witness can never say there is "a god besides Jehovah".

1 Corinthians 8:5-6
"For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,yet to us, there is one God the Father....."

Psalm 82:1 God presides over the divine assembly.
He (Ha Elohim) judges among the gods.
Psalm 82:6 God's sons are gods whether in heaven or earth.
According to your own Bible.

Oga, please CURE YOUR delusion invented at Nicene.

Steep:
Jesus is Almighty God the evidence are all over scriptures.

2 Corinthians 1:3
"Praise be the God ( ho Theos of John 1:1) & Father of our lord Jesus Christ".

Paul does not owe his own name to Jesus,me too & everyone else, Ephesians 3:14-15.
Except Oga Steep.

Oga Steep, please CURE YOUR delusion invented by men.

Steep:
There is only one God, there is other God.
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Steep:
you keep proving that you guys are false witness.

Kushites:
Clitocurrency?

Good gracious.

What won’t somebody read on this Nairaland?

You dey mind that WAILER!

Vinnie wey no get liver to deliver sermon on his pastorpreneurs pulpit let alone enter the streets to preach from door to door,is WAILING on Nairaland accusing JWs of low morale for preaching invented in his head.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course God's word admonished us not to suffer as a BLACKMAILER:

"However, let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or a wrongdoer or a busybody in other people’s matters" 1Peter 4:15

Ọmọ you're called out for BLACKMAILING not because you're preaching God's word.



So did you BLACKMAIL Talktalk2022 by lying again him?

YES or NO!

Kingsempires:
Oh my God,another lie again which holy spirt revealed to him the Jesuschrist was angel micheal.maybe na lucifer revealed lam to him.by the way is the any different between jw and islam.

Is Martin Luther the Protestant (who wrote 95 thesis against your Church) a Trinitarian & believed that Jesus is archangel Michael?

Is Charles Spurgeon the clergy man teaching that Jesus is archangel Michael, also a Trinitarian?

The truth is hurting your delusion.

Oga,come back here and continue WAILING.

FxMasterz:
I have always known that this small boy has very low IQ. I asked someone concerning his own findings regarding what was alleged, the low IQ Janosky is asking me for proof. How does that relate? They asked "What were your findings" a low IQ JW boy is saying "Go to court and prove it." Prove what?