Christianity Etc › Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Janosky: 12:22am On Aug 13, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: See your life? 
Everyone just ignored you because they knew that sinners are everywhere and Christians are sent to HELP them not condemn such ones.
But since your life is centered on POLITICS and you keep hoping in man's ability to solve your problems you don't want to reason with faith in God!  Abeg allow him to console himself with WAILING. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Janosky: 12:18am On Aug 13, 2024 |
DoWhatThouWilt: They are ignoring me. They are busy arguing with people they call apostates. Very shameless and foolish set of people.
200,000 children abused in Jehovahs witness watchtower organisation.
Organisation of pedophiles.
Run from them o
Chai!!!!! Your screenshot did not make the FALSE claim you are throwing tantrums upandan.
Oga,Carry your delusion invented In your head & Japa .
WAILING WAILER LYING to the public. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Janosky: 12:09am On Aug 13, 2024 |
DoWhatThouWilt: Please i need answers.
Why are there so many pedophiles in Jehovah organisation?
Why is your organisation protecting pedophiles? Why are there so many pedophiles living in your head?
Oga,Carry your MUMU komot from this public forum. WAILING Hypocrite. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 12:01am On Aug 13, 2024 |
Steep: Angels carried out assignments for Jehovah but they were not called Jehovah. . Psalm 103:20 & Judges 6:11-23 & judges 13:19-23 , pls study thoroughly. Jehovah sent His angel to do everything you read there. The angels came in the name of Jehovah. Steep: Can you mention anywhere in the scripture where Jesus mention the name Jehovah or yahweh apart from when he quoted scripture?. When Jesus quotes scriptures, did Jesus say himself is Jehovah? Steep: According to jw.org Jehovah can become anything to fulfill his plans. God himself explained the meaning of his name to his faithful servant Moses. When Moses asked about God’s name, Jehovah replied: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.” (Exodus 3:14) Rotherham’s translation renders those words: “I Will Become whatsoever I please.” So Jehovah can become whatever is needed in order to fulfill his purposes, and he can cause to happen whatever is required with regard to his creation and the accomplishment of his purpose. . Yes. Steep: It is there in Isaiah, yahweh and his Spirit sent yahweh. Yea the supreme being in heaven is the only true God and he is he father, Son and Spirit. Oga Steep, your Trinitarian illusion is not in the Hebrew scroll of Isaiah 48:16.
Yahweh endowed his son Screenshot evidences
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Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 11:04pm On Aug 12, 2024*. Modified: 11:25pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
Steep: now jws hypocrisy is exposed. When God is called a "him" it means God is one person, but when the Spirit is called a "him" then it is not a person. By the way Israel is referred to as "himself" even though there are many persons that comprises Israel.. In the Hebrew & Greek languages,(as well as German, Spanish, French etc), words, things are either masculine (he) or feminine gender (she), it doesn't support your Trinitarian illusion. In Greek, holy spirit has no gender but Paraclete (Advocate/Counselor) is a masculine pronoun (he). For that reason holy spirit reference as Advocate "Paraclete" is a he. In German,a pencil is refered to as "she", is your pencil a living entity?  Steep: The father is the only true God, this statement separates [font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]v the father from other gods Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not other gods but same God with the Father.
Oga, if you like cling tight to the Trinitarian illusion of Genesis 1:26, the ONLY God, Yahweh's address @ Job 38: 4-7 have debunk your illusion.
Psalm 82:6 & Job 38:4-7, all Yahweh's sons (HE called gods) rejoiced when Adam was created.
Oga Steep, wake up  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 10:58pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
Kingsempires: but how was YHWH pronounced? Nobody alive today (except the Most High God) knows how it was pronounced. The same manner you can't know if Yehoshua or Yeshua (for Jesus real name) is more correct. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 10:40pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
Kingsempires: In JWS bible,why is "LORD" removed for most places in your bible and change to "JEHOVAH" ? In the Bible,YHWH (which is God's name Jehovah/Yahweh) was replaced with "the LORD" written in capital letters.
To confirm this fact Google "Psalm 83:18 or Psalm 110:1 biblehub"
Please Sir, remember to screenshot the evidence on this thread. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 10:34pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
Steep: Gen 1 vv 26 Oga, Is Genesis 1:26-27. Matthew 19:4-6 & John 5:44 in your own Bible?
Oga Steep,have you forgotten that the only God spoke the words of Genesis 1:26?
@ John 5:44, Jesus Christ rejected the Trinitarian illusion of Genesis 1:26.
The only God said to His Son "Let us make man." After the ONLY God created man,all His sons in heaven rejoiced, Job 38:4-7. The ONLY God said so. D  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 10:20pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
Michael547: So where did Jesus identify himself as Jehovah if Psalms 83:18 is referring to the father? Oga Steep response is getting somewhere & proven something... That Trinity nah man made scam. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 10:17pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
 Steep: Psalm 83:18 is a prophecy about the future when Jesus his Lord will sit at Jehovah's right hand. Who is David Lord? Psalms 16:2 O my soul, thou hast said unto the LORD, Thou art my Lord: my goodness extendeth not to thee; Jehovah is David's Lord. Oga Steep, are you drunk or sleepy?
Your response is very off point from Psalm 83:18 which references Jehovah the ONLY God of Jesus Christ his son..
Brother Max, come & see oooo !!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 10:11pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
Steep: When the Yahweh went to Sodom and Gomorrah to destroy it, it was reported that Yahweh called down fire from yahweh out of heaven, meaning yahweh on earth called down fire from yahweh in heaven. Psalm 103:20 = John 5:43 No Sir, according to Psalm 103:20. Angels came to the earth in the name of Yahweh to carry out the God given assignment. The same manner Jesus Christ carried out Yahweh's assignment @ John 14:24 & John 5:43 in the name of Yahweh his Father. Steep: There is a particular entity called "The Angel of the Lord" in the old testament, he his God, he speaks as yahweh and at the say time he is distinguished from yahweh. Your Trinitarian mentors confessed that Jesus Christ is that angel of Yahweh (the LORD) @ Genesis 16:7. Amplified Bible. Geneva Bible 1599. Screenshot evidences Steep: In Isaiah 48:16, the person taking is God speaking but he distinguished himself from the Lord God and the Spirit. Note the Spirit is placed on the same personhood with the Lord God but yet the spirit is distinct from the Lord God.
Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
From this verses it is clear that they are three persons 1. Is the God that is speaking 2. The Lord God that is sending God 3. The spirit of God who is also sending God along with the Lord God. All three are the same God but different persons. The Trinity is in the old testament right from Genesis 1. [b] Isaiah 48:16, is the prophet Isaiah a Jew? Yes. Did Isaiah nor any Jew claimed that the God of Israel & another spirit together "sent me" @ Isaiah 48:16? No !!! Oga,you are just desperate to contradict Isaiah prophecy fulfilled @Matthew 12:15-18. Oga Steep,Isaiah 6:6-8 is in your own Bible  Scriptures interpret scriptures but Trinitarians use scriptures to contradict scriptures.  John 5:44 New International Version How can you believe since you accept glory from one another but do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?New Living Translation No wonder you can’t believe! For you gladly honor each other, but you don’t care about the honor that comes from the one who alone is God.
English Standard Version How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?The word "ONLY God" is the game changer. The Supreme Being in heaven is the ONLY God. John5:44
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Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 9:57pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
Steep: Jehovah is a name shared by all three persons of the God head, in other words yahweh is a multipersonal being and the particular person that became Jesus is yahweh the word. Psalm 83:18 says NO in capital letters. John 5:44 , Jesus Christ says NO in capital letters.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 9:53pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
Steep: The nation of Israel is called an "He" even though they are made up of many persons. The word used to describe God's oneness in deuteronomy 6:4 is echad, and echad as used in th bible is a plural unity as against yachad which is singular unity. When God said Adam and eve would become one flesh the word one is actually the echad which is the plural form of unity. Did your own Bible says that Israel is one being? Israel personified as "He", doesn't support trinity. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 9:15pm On Aug 12, 2024*. Modified: 9:35pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
Steep: It is not a contradiction. God is one in essence but three in person. Allah in the Koran wants to be more than one person badly that he keeps using "we" everywhere. Again Muslims do not know the meaning of tawheed they say tawheed mean Allah is only one but tawheed actually means a unification of many things. In the old testament God use the word "us" to describe himself. . Oga Steep, your own Bible did not say that the Most High Yahweh is "US." Not in Genesis. "Himself" can't be 3 distinct persons you are worshipping, according to your doctrine. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 8:54pm On Aug 12, 2024 |
BitterPost: Learn how to eat meat and stop looking for milk.
You are the one confusing yourself.
Question :Does the bible have scriptures describing Jesus christ as a God (with capital G) ? Answer : Yes
Question: Despite being a God, (with capital G) did Jesus ever equate himself with the father? Answer : NO.
Proof :
Question : Why is Jesus Described as a God, with capital G? Answer :
Question : Why did Jesus say I and the father are ONE? Answer : The context of John 10:30 is important for understanding the significance of Jesus’ words. In the preceding verses, Jesus speaks about His role as the Good Shepherd, who gives eternal life to His sheep and protects them. He says that no one can snatch His sheep out of His hand or the Father's hand.This leads to the declaration that He and the Father are one, reinforcing their joint sovereignty and care over believers. MUMU Post. You are TWISTING the holy scriptures Chai !!!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Janosky: 11:30pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
paxonel: Note that we are not living in Pauls era anymore, times have change.
In this era, people are so intelligent that they care more about your ability to practice what you preach. They want to see you living the life so that they can emulate you to become believers rather than mere preaching it. no correlation with what I'm saying with Acts 9.
What I'm saying is, our lives as Christians is what matters most than religious practices. certainly!
Not just only pocket. You will lose your intelligence too Did the life of Paul mirror the teaching of Christ he preach?
Did Paul's life reflect what he preached?
Acts chapter 9 verse 3 to 30 is still relevant for our attention and emulation, 1 Corinthians 11:1.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 11:21pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Kingsempires: so what is your explaination to this verse to what I quoted above  In heaven,Jesus Christ said himself is a worshipper of "my God" in heaven.
Oga,what is your own explanation to Revelation 3:12? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 11:08pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Kingsempires: So janosky my question is who is Jesus to you According to Jesus Christ on earth,Matthew 16:13-17 on the earthly realm. Christ is the son/servant of God his Father (Senior).
According to Jesus Christ in heaven, Revelation 1:1 & Revelation 3:12, in the spiritual realm, Christ is the son not elevated to the position his God & Father ALONE occupies.
Let me point out a very significant point in these verses.
Jesus Christ said what you read about Christ in Matthew 16:13-17. Revelation 1:1 & Revelation 3:12 is REVEALED.
If you like, cling tight to the delusion invented at Nicene. That's your cup of coffee. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:57pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Kingsempires: Men!!!, what did you want me to say; me and you are not believing the same thing .are you going to say that am going to hell for the way i believe God is or am I going to say that you will go to hell because of the way you believe God is that is why i said i leave everything for God to Judge so can't misunderstand my quote Oga, Jesus said the statement of Revelation 3:12 in your own Bible. Whether you accept or reject it, that's your choice.
Shalom |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:53pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
johnw47: lost fraud jw janosky
so you believe the Word was God but now is not God you people are as dum as they come, aren't you Simple question: FROM WHERE DID YOU IMPORT "is INTO JOHN 1:1?
John W capping GIBBERISH.  johnw47: once again how dum can one be, man begets a son who is also a human being God begets a Son who is also a God being, like i said John W worshipping more than 2 God beings.
Oga, what happened to your brain?
After all, the screenshot evidence is irrefutable. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:39pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Kingsempires: Let God be the one to judge the world This is how God rewards those He has judged worthy, please study Revelation 3:12.
Oga,What did your Jesus reveal to your heart in that verse?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:30pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
johnw47: ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
truly lost and most dum fraud jw janosky
God and the word are God beings, and of course you cannot stop false accusing/lying, like your devil:
Rev_12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Oga, carry your WAILING komot from this public forum. John W is a polytheist worshipping 3 deities.
Your fellow Trinitarian first posted this screenshot evidence online 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:27pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Kingsempires: so explain how you understood the chapters and verses that he quoted here 1 Corinthians 8:6 God his Father is the creator of EVERYTHING. Jesus is a creature, the first born of God, sent into the world, Hebrew 1:6. Colossians 1:15. In your Bible 'Father' meaning Senior. The Father of Jesus senior Jesus in every sense. 
Hebrew 1:2. John 1:3, God created the world through ( Greek dia antou) His Son, the agency of creation.
"Let us make man", God told his son. Genesis 1:26. Hebrew 1:2 is the evidence.Genesis 1:27 = 1 Corinthians 8:6, God created EVERYTHING through His Son, Hebrews 1:2. John 1:3.
Job 38:1-7, God said His Sons (angels) in heaven rejoiced "shouted in applause", when HE created man.
Angels in heaven heard God telling his son (Jesus) "let us make man." Job 38:1-7 is the evidence.
Take note that Genesis 1:26 is misinterpreted by Trinitarians. Because Genesis 1:27 proven that God (Yahweh) is One Supreme Being not 3 deities invented at Nicene.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 9:39pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Kingsempires: who you come dey call illiterate pastor? The one wey read John 1:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6 & Hebrew 1:2 without understanding the important Greek word "dia antou" in all the 3 verses but still come Nairaland dey type GIBBERISH.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:54pm On Aug 11, 2024*. Modified: 9:51pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Tetraozonaitera: To answer your question:
ISAIAH 52:5-7
5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: . I think you meant to say: Phillipians 2:6 not Isaiah.... Phillipians 2:6 Mounce Greek interlinear. NWT & NASB are correct renditions devoid of Trinitarian bias. Please see the screenshots evidence. John 14:28 & Revelation 3:12, Christ confirmed there is equality with his God & Father does not exist. Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 11:3 inspired by holy spirit. @ Phillipians 2:6, Paul never made any allusion to equality.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:42pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Tetraozonaitera: Saul sought the help of the Witch of Endor to summon the Spirit of Samuel. The Spirit cursed Saul eventually. No Sir. Why would God chose a Witch (satanic practice condemned by God, Exodus 22:18) to reveal info to disobedient Saul? No nau.
The witch summon a demon to communicate with Saul. Apparently God made Samuel to reject communication with Saul (due to Saul's disobedience) while Samuel was alive .
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:30pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: You reject the revelation of Jesus and uphold the word of a man spoken in ignorance. Who told you that everything you read in Ecclesiastes is divine revelation from God? Illiterate pastor, please Go & convince your fellow Trinitarian,Oga Steep that Ecclesiastes according to you,is not divine revelation.
Nah the same ghost give una conflicting, contradictory information.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:22pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: The first step is to receive eternal life. And this life is in Jesus. The invitation to receive eternal or everlasting life is not mysterious. It's as simple as learning ABC. Just believe in your heart that Jesus died for you and confess with your mouth that he is your Lord and Saviour. And you will be saved. You will receive eternal life. But you have rejected this simple message of the scripture. Instead you are following the false teachings of Russell and Rutherford. So, you have decided to abide in spiritual death. The end of people who reject the gospel of our Lord Jesus is hell and Lake of fire. The first step to receive eternal life,according to Jesus Christ is John 17:3. *1. Knowledge of the God who sent Jesus.
*2. Knowledge of Jesus the Son sent by the God in heaven. Shout upandan "Jesus is my Lord and personal saviour" & neglect the instructions of John 17:3, you're wasting your time.
John 17:3 is another big blow against Trinity. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:16pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Kingsempires: leave them make them dey twist the bible  According to your own Bible,Acts chapter 9 verse 3 to 30, Paul the apostle converted by Jesus Christ, which group did Paul fellowship with after conversion?
Did Paul believe in John chapter 3:16-18?
Please continue WAILING and deceiving yourselves. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:06pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Kingsempires: People were call their self christians by does'nt believe that Jesuschrist is God. kings empires & illiterate pastor,People who call themselves Christ followers have no faith in Revelation 3:12 & Matthew 16:13-17, that Jesus Christ is a worshipper of our God in heaven the revelation Jesus Christ shared to them.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 5:02pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: Destruction is in hell and Lake of fire. It doesn't mean cessation of existence. Otherwise the beast and the false prophet cast into the Lake fire in Revelation 19;20 would have ceased to exist. But they were acknowledged to still be there after 1,000 years of Jesus reing. And Satan was also cast in there. I have cited these references to you before but you still held on to the lies established by Russell and Rutherford who are obviously both in hell. Destruction meaning "cessation of existence".
Illiterate pastor misleading himself, according to his dictionary. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 4:55pm On Aug 11, 2024 |
Kingsempires: I guess there are the anti Christ that was said in the bible Oga polytheist,After you read both screenshots again.
Go and follow your Trinitarian mentors & that illiterate pastor deceiving you. 
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