MightySparrow: Aha! How do you determine in which body Jesus resurrected?
You claimed Jesus was Michael before incarnation, what is he now? Angel Michael or man. If man, what body is He having? 1Tim.2.5 - For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Did Jesus Christ die for your sins in heaven?
1 Timothy 2:5 references Jesus sacrificial death.
Did you notice that 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God", 'one God ' of 1 Timothy 2:5 in heaven is NOT Jesus Christ your deity?
Ken4Christ: My friend, the emphasis is on the name of Jesus. If you believe in Jehovah but don't believe in Jesus, you cannot be saved. Jesus was sent by God his Father and you must believe in Jesus to be saved;
John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Illiterate pastor deceiving himself in public forum.
John 7:16 " the doctrine I (Jesus) teach is NOT mine".
John 17:3 " believe the only true God his Father & believe in Jesus His Son,to have eternal life "
John 14:1 Jesus said:"believe in the God my Father & believe in me"
Emusan: First of all, this line of your delusion isn't new to me.
Emusan "line of delusion" was known to his fellow Trinitarians, Martin Luther, Charles Spurgeon, John Gill,Seventh Day Adventists etc. This Bible truth had been known long before Emusan & his ancestors were even born.
How come that ghost leading them is leading Emusan and Emusan no get that knowledge? Serious issues
Emusan: Secondly, Watchtower is a product of Seventh Day Adventist which means they actually copied that doctrine from them.
No Sir. Jehovah's servants copied that doctrine from the holy scriptures.
Emusan: Lastly, this reinforced my point that NOT ONLY WATCHTOWER has the truth. In fact, the best caption here will be 'Watchtower simply copied the TRUTH OF TRINITARIAN'
Did your fellow Trinitarians invent the Bible?
No !
That truth was copied from the holy Bible that Jesus archangel Michael.
Ken4Christ: How does that affect your walk with him. That you have this knowledge doesn't save you. Salvation is in the name of Jesus;
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Do you call your earthly father by his name or you call him daddy or father or papa? Jesus called him father. Well, you can't because you are not his child yet. If you are, the spirit of God in you will cry Abba Father.
Illiterate pastor, what did Jesus Christ teach you at John 17:3 & John 14:1?
Your Father send you go assignment, you reach your destination, you no go tell your listeners the name of your Father wey send you go that assignment?
John 5:43 & John 17:6,26, Jesus Christ no dey do like you, illiterate pastor deceiving himself.
Ken4Christ: You can't believe in Jesus without believing in God the Father because he qualifies to become a son of God.
But Jehovah Witness believe in God but don't believe in Jesus. So, you can't be a Christian.
If you believe in Jesus, you will believe he is God in human flesh. He is the visible manifestation of the invisible God. He said; "...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" (John 14:9)
He was never created. Rather, all things were created through him. He existed before the world began. See the statements he made in this regard;
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.
The NET puts it this way;
John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory I had with you BEFORE THE WORLD WAS CREATED.
This is why he also said;
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
He taught clearly about the reality of hell which your wicked anti Christ organisation denied.
He said he is coming back but you said he isn't coming back. In fact, you said he has already come back.
What more can I say. Your founder is an agent of darkness who opposes virtually every truth of God's word. He is definitely in hell suffering for his wickedness and you will join him if you don't repent. Keep defending his lies until the devil takes your soul away.
LYING miscreant the illiterate pastor deceiving himself is LYING & denying John 17:3 & John 14:1 in public forum.
Illiterate pastor dey deny Jesus instructions and teaching: "Believe in the God his Father & believe in Jesus the son, to have eternal life. Illiterate pastor no believe John 17:3 & John 14:1.
Jesus is the first born of God, Hebrew 1:6. Man is the last born of God, Job 38:4-7.
I have told you thousand times that you should try to reason with others but since you love mentioning names you can continue with your attitude at least i've told you what i believe and you can't prove me wrong!
Ken4Christ: You are a son of perdition. You will continue to defend Russell and Rutherford until you join both of them in hell. And you are doing this in spite of overwhelming evidence exposing your their lies.
Did Russell and Rutherford write John 17:3 & John 14:1 in your own Bible?
Similar incident happened in my neighborhood, somewhere in the South,over three decades ago. Heavy rain storm in the locality destroyed a popular pentecostal church building which led to the collapse of the roof & massive leakages.
You know what?
Under the cover of darkness, after midnight, the pastorpreneur & his trusted lieutenants came into the devastated building & headed straight to the pulpit to "excavate precious artefacts" from the spot.
With their torchlights & battery powered lamps, they got busy digging up the "precious artefacts" while the noise & sounds of their activities, alerted the immediate neighbors that something unusual was going on. Some neighbors summoned courage & entered the church premises to at least nab some suspected criminals who were thought to be stealing valuable items in the building. But,lo & behold, the courageous neighbors saw the pastorpreneur & his fellow workers with fetish pots & calabash dug up from the pulpit.
Nah so that church close down in that locality.
After this incident, JW's preaching ministry was impressive and massive in that community. Matthew 24:14.
What were you expecting from pastorpreneurs & gods of men whose stock in trade are not different from their colleagues in this screenshot? Pastorpreneurs are inseparable from spiritism.
When their gullible sheeples use terms such as "the god of pastor this & pastor that," they are not referencing the God of Acts 3:13, the God of Jesus Christ,Abraham, Isaac, Jacob.
achorladey: Angel Michael is Pope is the height of the werey peddling brains of your religious organization. You can keep using the above to consolidate your werey peddling brains about Jesus
Just like your werey peddling brains cannot change the quote of Trinitarians that Jesus is not created and Jesus is eternal
You know that your Angel Michael created all other Angels
Jesus Christ is archangel Michael. Bible truth opposed by WAILING WAILERS.
Jesus who cried & EXPIRED in your own Bible @ Matthew 27:46,50 is eternal?
Every angel is a creature. Achorladey awon WEREY MUMU for life.
Where in the New Testament Jesus was the only one called ARCHANGEL Michael?
Go & demand answers from your fellow Trinitarians believing that Jesus is archangel Michael. They have provided the new testament verses for their beliefs. Oga STOP WAILING.
Emusan: Even the TRINITARIAN never said Jesus was called ARCHANGEL in the New Testament. You can only see their comments on Dan 10:13
So.
What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?
Where in the New Testament Jesus was the only one called ARCHANGEL Michael?
Emusan LYING miscreant deceiving himself.
Trinitarian Adventists church= Revelation 12:7-9. Trinitarian John Gill= Jude 1:9. Trinitarian Geneva Bible= Daniel 10:13. Trinitarian Matthew Poole= Hebrew 1:4-7.
From the old testament to the new testament, your Trinitarian mentors were convinced that Jesus is archangel Michael.
Courz: I will help you people to push this thread further so that as they are reading, they will see your dirty laundry and know that you JWs are not better than others. Some people are too lazy to read from the begining so they will see your blunders and secrets. Please keep commenting. I have many things to post here for many to see. It would be lovely that you keep commenting so they can see what I am posting. Thanks.
Your brother murdered a fellow sister in the U.K from this BBC report. How do you feel about it? Is this supposed to happen in the One True religion?
Sand2022: Yes. I can remember one picture in Require Brochure that drew three heads of similar looks fused into one. So even the JW GB don't understand the teaching of Trinity, at least as at the time the brochure was published.
Oga ,read Courz post screenshot. Did Courz your fellow Trinitarian agree with your own version of trinity revealed to you, Sand2022,by the same ghost?
That picture in the JW's publication is the exact replica of the deities invented at Nicene you are worshipping.
Courz: Mad MaxinDhouse, someone brought up child sexual abuse happening in your one true religion of which your Watchtower admitted that it happens amongst you and all you could say is that your fellow pedophile brothers were arrested for disciplining their children? The rape they committed is discipline? So, you are not aware that they raped children of other JW Parents or you just dont know what to say to defend your Satanic Cult? After your own watchtower publication disgraced you by admitting that they indeed raped little children, you in your stupidity are claiming they were disciplining their own children? Where are you getting this gibberish from?
Courz OZUO pro max, continue your Hypocrisy, MUMU and WAILING.
The screenshots evidences proven your fellow parishioners and your gods of men are serving jail terms for the same criminal offences you are WAILING about.
achorladey: COMPLETELY TRUST THE GOVERNING BODY so says the following men
1. Remember lies creates doubt and destroy trust. Some of what we can hear and read is based on misinformation campaign of apostates. It may sound convincing even to us even if we now say. I will not believe it anyway. I am just curious to know what it is. Exposing ourselves to this kind of misinformation can create doubt and undermine our complete trust in the Governing Body............Gajus Glockentin
2. Now in our day, there is another group of men that are sitting at one table, they never lie or deceive us. We can have absolute trust in the Governing Body........Gary Breaux
3. Since Jehovah and Jesus completely trust the faithful and discreet slave should we not do the same? So who do you trust? You fully trust Jehovah, Jesus and faithful and discreet slave. To a reasonable degree you also trust all your fellow brothers and sisters....... Gerrit Losch
What do you have to say Samuel Herd based on all of the above.........
But as we understand it, somethings Jehovah will not permit us to see even though we read over it many times we cannot see it until Jehovah put lights on it.......Samuel Herd
Based on what Samuel Herd said.....
Jehovah will not permit you to see that you should not completely trust the GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES completely despite reading it from the Bible many times
Here is the manipulation and lies.......
It is better to take refuge in Jehovah than to trust in humans. It is better to take refuge in Jehovah than to trust in princes. Psalms 118:8, 9
Do not put your trust in princes nor in son of man, who cannot bring salvation Psalms 146:3
For your own sake, quit trusting mere man, who is only the breath in his nostrils. Why should he be taken into account?........ Isaiah 2:22.
What will not make you see it?
That is why God lets a deluding influence misled them so that they may come to believe the lie, in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 2Thessalonians 2:11,12
Interestingly, JWs that criticize others are for blindly following pastors. This same thing they are doing! I discovered this early when I stumbled on a book titled Reasoning from the Scriptures and What the Bible Really Teaches.I discovered that no Jehovah Witnesses would want you to say anything outside what they memorized or discuss anything without a book seemingly explaining or replacing the Bible.
How can someone say to understand the Bible is exclusively for a delusional Governing Body?
I was shocked hearing Stephen Lett claiming that he was one of the 144,000 going to heaven and giving conditions and qualifications to others. Haba! How is he qualified and others sheepies are not. I know by his standard, maximumSide, janosky, Boomark and a host of them on Nairaland are not qualified. They are second rated citizens of Jehovah's Witnesses's kingdom. .
My brother, the Bible says,
Prov.26.12 - Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.
I have maintained it here that this people are living in delusion.
Continue WAILING and console yourself & other WAILERS to derail this thread.
None of them can defend their man made GIBBERISH invented at Nicene by Constantine and his pagan cronies.
Courz: How do you feel about sharing the same belief system with occultic people like the illuminati? How do you feel about your doctrines coming from Spirit channelling like this your guy said here in the video? Jesus is both Angel Michael and Abbadon? That can only come from demons.
Courz: Your doctrines actually expose where you get them from. Spirit channelling of Demons like this your guy said in this video. He exposed your Anointed JWs here o.
Courz: Thats their modus operandi. When you have made them look really stupid, they try so hard to change the topic. Thats why I wear them out by quoting them over and over and over again.
Courz IBERIBEISM , LYING miscreant .
Courz modus operandi Courz WAILING WAILER dey change topic to derail this thread. Because JW's exposed Courz IBERIBEISM.
Courz: Confused people. Jesus is Angel Micheal this minute. Jesus is Abbadon the next minute. Two different angels o. Nothing wey dey that una coconut head because una dey listen to a group of freemasons teaching you occultic doctrines and you cant question them. What a pity!
Courz IBERIBEISM in full swing. Oga,continue WAILING in sifia pains.